Jackson State's "War & Thunder" Vs Talladega College's "Renegade Rebels" - Percussion Battle - 2021

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[@DrumLuv23]

Forgot to review: The "does more always equal better?" battle. Dega came with numbers (17 cymbals???) and volume. Jackson State came with their usual. Jackson State Snares- 9.5 I heard moments of dirt but overall clean and precise like I expected Tenors-10 I don't usually give 10s however the Tenors were very good with their spacing and placement in fillers. They provided the clean counterpoint that sets WT apart from other sections Basses- 9.5 I wanted to give them a 10 but there was small attention to detail that I usually miss with them. Like how they move in ripples seems to be less pronounced than while they're playing. Almost like they take off in their minds until the next cadence. Also, movements during cadences are together but every now and then I see some more and less pronounced than others. Quads- 10. They were more unsung heroes in this one, but they fit in just fine. Cymbs- 9 Got to take off for those inverted cymbals every now and then. Good overall. Balance- 10. (WELL balanced material!) Difficulty of material-10 (You can say all they do is play grooves until you try to play their material as a line. Can I play it? Yes. I'm a professional. Would I struggle as a freshman? YES!!! Could I just pick everything up the first time listening? NO! Would I stumble the first few times trying to learn it? Yes.) Overall score- 68/70. No other way to put it. These boys are good. Talladega- I'll be honest. I'm already biased towards WT but I will not take into account the WT influence debate when evaluating. I'll evaluate this performance alone. Snares- 9. They were clean. They were together. Very good. Excellent even. But a but monotonous. Basses- 9 Very good. Powerful. Held the pocket very well. I can't give a 9.5 in this battle because their material was not as intricately written as WT's so I have to keep them a notch under. I'd feel justified giving them an 8.5 for this reason but I don't want to take away from the reality that they're a very good section. Tenors-8.5. I was going to give them an 8 but I'm focusing on specifically dega now during this part and I will give them points for their energy. Quads- N/A (Won't hurt overall score) Cymbals- 8. Waaay too much, but that didn't hurt the score. Played pretty well but there were parts that were supposed to be intricate and were less properly executed. Balance- 8. On the fence between 8 and 8.5 but this is where the small details matter. Nobody was overpowered really but the important parts weren't highlighted when necessary. This is "next level" awareness. Difficulty of material-8 Same thing. If i were evaluating them against another line I'd have given them more but the difficulty falls short compared to WT. I just have to be honest. Overall score- 50.5/60 Final result- WT 68/70 (97%) Dega 50.5/60 (84%) I feel good about this rating because 84% is nothing to sneeze at and Dega is nothing to sneeze at either. There's trash talk of course but I believe in giving credit where credit is due. Their guys can play. By no means are they bad. They're very good. However, I also believe that when you get to the top it's the small details that matter. Both lines did well in the basics that make a good drumline. Now it's all about the small things. These are where WT shined and where TC came up a little short. Great battle to both lines!

[@dashawnsly6555]

Best battle I’ve seen in a long time….

[@DScott2010]

Wish they would’ve let them hit the field for this battle

[@DrumLuv23]

Never thought I would ever say this: I think Talladega's drumline is too big.

[@artpatterson9300]

Damn near bigger than the band

[@o.maurion]

it is.

[@MrLANKY04]

I agree. Just big for no reason. Tenor Drums tuned too damn high. They're definitely a mix between WT/SU.

[@jaym6224]

@@MrLANKY04 lol rr no where near a mix of ff 💀

[@MrLANKY04]

@@jaym6224 It's ok. I get it. No one wants to hear the truth.

[@Atxmsk]

Tenors- Dega to be loud and choppy with a size like that is very skillful Snares- Jackson only cuz bro dropped his stick Bases- DeGarmo simply cuz the louder wit the same amount as jsu Cymbals- JSU cuz they make u Bob ya head

[@marihodge4057]

What’s the point in being loud tho when ur form is horrible jsu has better tenors

[@terrorblossom4829]

@@marihodge4057right

[@artpatterson9300]

He totally woah woah woah they whole cadence

[@fluellenmediabymarekusflue6320]

I wonder if whoa was first word that came to mind.

[@DrumLuv23]

I think maybe, "Hey," but it just didn't have the same ring to it. LOL

[@sirenserenades777]

😂😂

[@rigobertoreyes9598]

Section leader dropping sticks and all lol

[@odellc601]

Yo I seen that😂 I wasn’t even gonna say anything and let him make it. Y’all don’t miss nothing😂😂

[@younggoob2396]

😭😭😭😭

[@devongrigg1011]

And jsu tearing up material

[@lilmikeymikegford9499]

Right I play number 715 back in high school lol love chopping on books and the whole class around you..going oooooh..but yes love jsu cadence

[@Thee1terrorist]

GAH DAMN TENORS ! Sound like whip cracks 🔥

[@jaleelpriest5755]

We was whoopin ass

[@queengrace9926]

caught him slipping 🥶 @7:47

[@BFRESH1]

WT clean, groovy and powerful with less members JSU With Dub

[@007CRUSHINDO]

I see Dega got dem new dynasty drums!👀💪

[@FlexxinJordan]

They look like the old ones

[@007CRUSHINDO]

@@FlexxinJordan idk why im just now realizing this! I thought they had Pearl like TxSU sum years back

[@FlexxinJordan]

@@007CRUSHINDO yeah but i think dynasty drum are custom made type drums

[@007CRUSHINDO]

@@FlexxinJordan frfr they are very elite. Jsu was the school who put me on Dynasty. I never heard of that company until i seen them

[@FlexxinJordan]

@@007CRUSHINDO but yk pearl made dynasty too pluse pearl endorse remo so there's no difference its just the heads

[@mariogallion703]

Love that!

[@ziggerott28]

Awesome

[@ryzn.9201]

Cadence @8:00 ?

[@jakesupremegaming3713]

Woah Woah Woah Woah Woah Woah

[@si1995gtnupe1997]

“Woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah!!!!!!”

[@jakesupremegaming3713]

@@si1995gtnupe1997 guy tries to stop a drumline mid cadence😂

[@si1995gtnupe1997]

@@jakesupremegaming3713: Heen know that when you deep in them junts, you can’t stop!

[@strikepaw1]

LMFAO he really did that for a whole minute straight too.

[@bandfam2304]

Lmfao!!! He said woah like 86 times lmao

[@mariogallion703]

The boom played them boys weak!! They got that flame!!!!

[@lilmikeymikegford9499]

Now this my favorite part of the band is the drum section so not gone comment but great job both jsu and tall..yeah y'all..but still..jsu chop up..and showed out...

[@NYCRP294]

woah woah woah woah

[@rrcho3475]

RR S.I.L.H !!!

[@ittzjr4676]

Bro Stick FELL -4:48

[@YourGoat803]

Who

[@mikeymckenney3215]

where Are we watching the same video bro

[@TheRealDuke9]

JSU snare line🔥🔥🔥

[@TheRealDuke9]

I watch this a couple times JSU snare section leader who ever you are you a beast with them sticks

[@sspann11]

I really see no difference in the sections besides size, so you have to go with execution. If you don't have one of your sticks (08:13), you can't execute 🤷🏾‍♂️ I would also say WTs Zs have better arrangements and flashes as well. Boom for the win....again

[@devongrigg1011]

😂😂😂😂®️®️

[@Yonimadethis]

They are WT they just changed their colors

[@terrorblossom4829]

@@devongrigg1011dega lost they tryna be wt

[@mikeymckenney3215]

Having 20 snare drums does not validate you ijs

[@azarusjenkins8961]

Me being in the band and coming from a Jackson High School 04’ to be exact, can honestly say all this so called grooving ish they playing these days is all watered down and it seams to me as if everything all sounds the same! What ever happened to cadence like Creative Funk, Laws l, and ll. Stacey (JSU Original) boss l, what happened to the funk trains 1,2,3&5. This ish is getting boring by the minute

[@MrLANKY04]

@Azarus Jenkins Exactly!!!

[@azarusjenkins8961]

@@MrLANKY04 shit too fast to groove to anyway!!!

[@MrLANKY04]

@@azarusjenkins8961 Right. Like I said, "Drumline" the movie messed up the drum world in a bad way.

[@ATLDRUMACADEMY]

@@MrLANKY04 nonsense

[@jxquentin]

they still play all of those .. but why would they play that in the heat of battle . a funk train in the stands in today’s age 😂? their still bringing creativity with their grooves regardless of however much new stuff they play , nothing sounds the same .

[@007CRUSHINDO]

GAH DAMN TALLADEGA! THAT POWER SHOOK THE STADIUM... IM SORRY JSU THEY WAXED DAT ASSS😂😂😂😂

[@devonturner622]

Lol why because they was loud?? Dega had dope material but was sloppy!!

[@007CRUSHINDO]

@@devonturner622 go argue wit somebody else bruh im not finna argue wit u. The crowd went crazy for Dega. Argue wit them in which yo scary ass wont because they'll smack yo shit down

[@40ODDO]

Only cus they loud lmaoo they shi was sloppy JSU wit another dub

[@terrorblossom4829]

@@40ODDOright talledega and basses have no form whatsoever

[@1lildeadman]

Omg dega 🗣🗣🗣

[@stickdog1230]

18 snares why

[@MrSmartboy1983]

Geez why do all the drumlines play such boring material these days.

[@kjthompson87]

Because there is no originality. They’re all modeled after WT. That’s the truth that most ppl omit. Hope they find a way to create their own style one day.

[@tabs9183]

They are more concerned about precision more than entertainment. They are trying to prove their drumline can Perform difficult pieces of music.

[@MrSmartboy1983]

All of the material sounds like Memphississippi

[@etgrider77]

That's them SWAC drumlines with them one dimensional basses. Everyone sounds the same in SWAC. MEAC lines are way more entertaining because they have tonals which give much more meaningful material for college level cadences.

[@jeffreyharley2244]

@@kjthompson87 Wait, all modeled after WT?? You’re kidding right? JSU isn’t even in the top 10 hbcu drumlines. When you think of drumlines JSU ain’t on NOBODY'S radar.

[@dayvonsavage315]

WT got dealt wit period.

[@BandHeadBoom]

Dega can’t even do a cadence without messing up. They stopped in the middle of it. Lol

[@sierrahilton8571]

@@BandHeadBoom they stop to let WT play they was takin turns but renegade was finna play a second cadence until bonds told them to let them play

[@twinthecreator22]

@@BandHeadBoom if talking shit and run with it was a person🤥

[@BandHeadBoom]

@@sierrahilton8571 👍🏾

[@BandHeadBoom]

@@twinthecreator22 lol man whatever. TC drumline got WT written all over it.

[@kentoncarter5613]

Why and I mean why do they have so many Snare drums they look country as hell! Damn I missed all them cymbals lol

[@jeffreyharley2244]

Well,,, all them "country as hell" snare drummers sure beat JSU's drumline!

[@craigtate755]

At some you gotta see that some of those kids ain't cutting it size does not make you a musician sideline them till they learn the material Dega was full of mistakes....

[@kentoncarter5613]

@@craigtate755 yeap

[@marihodge4057]

@@jeffreyharley2244they didn’t tho

[@terrorblossom4829]

@@jeffreyharley2244no they didn’t y’all don’t have no form

[@lilmikeymikegford9499]

Number 712jsu snare part

[@sigzbro]

Dega has that big ass percussion section but doesn't sound any louder or better than WT. That's crazy lol.

[@TazzKId]

Stfu lol you sound like a horn player. 🤦🏽‍♂️ this isn’t a band clip.

[@skiibandana2447]

Camera mic was on jsu side u can tell

[@KillaKevProd]

It definitely was not. No mic on either side actually.

[@sigzbro]

@@TazzKId You sound mad

[@TazzKId]

No, you just sound dumb making the statement you made. Lol literally.

[@veezyv3618]

I get it but I mean cmon. 18 snares? Jeez

[@MoreCh4seWavy]

®️®️

[@jbu2009]

this anothe dega comment fans..lol..yeah really praying dega beat jsu in something..lol.

[@jossiegreen1983]

This is wack

[@devonturner622]

WT will never stop playing to let somebody else play.. Dega big but soft..

[@reggiehoward7990]

Okayyy 🤷🏾‍♂️😂 If that makes us soft

[@samuell.woodsii7109]

Let jstate make it bro. Drumline and Tubas is all they have right now. Let them shine.

[@devonturner622]

@@samuell.woodsii7109 you do realize that’s cap right?

[@samuell.woodsii7109]

@@devonturner622 nah bruh it’s not. Maybe bones too

[@marihodge4057]

@@samuell.woodsii7109all su got is trumpets and euphos jsu has better trombones woodwinds and Drumline tubas and mellos id debatable only reason su gets the dub everytime is due to arrangements jsu needs better arrangements