Jaco Pastorius/Lagrene/Böröcz - Live in Milano 1986 Full Concert!

[@estebbbbbb]

I think this is the best performance that I've heard from Jaco on his very last years, sounds so good on this one:)!

[@musicuniverse1986]

I agree totally. Jaco sounds really inspired, sober and focused. Thanks for commenting. Greetings from Norway

[@estebbbbbb]

@@musicuniverse1986 sober is a good word to describe it, greetings from tijuana:)

[@jbass6182]

@@musicuniverse1986 I get so sick of morons who keep focusing on Jaco's "issues" in his last years and make it sound like he washed out after the Playboy show. Jaco was great in these last years. I blame Zawinul's influence on corrupting a young Jaco with booze and drugs. For all his bravura, I believe Jaco was a deeply sensitive soul who wanted some kind of acceptance from Zawinul he could never receive, and all he got from his idol was an introduction into the darker side of drugs that plagued most famous jazz musicians. Too bad Jaco didn't lean heavily into his Catholic roots and overcome this. May God have mercy on his soul. He was one of a kind.

[@musicuniverse1986]

@@jbass6182 Hi. Thanks for your comment. You're spot on with regards to Jaco's playing post WR. I've heard a lot of bootlegs of WR, and I think that Jaco actually played better after leaving in '81 than he did the last couple of years in that band. Zawinul basically became a control freak, and Jaco is on record stating that he hated his growing "technological overkill". I also suspect that Zawinul became jealous over Jaco becoming the main attraction of the band and that it was the main reason why he was so harsh when giving Jaco feedback on the "Word of Mouth" album. Jaco's life was very complicated regardless( bipolar disorder for instance) but it certainly didn't help that Zawinul treated him like that. Like you said Jaco looked up to him like a father figure, and being the sensitive soul he was he handled the rejections badly. Greetings from Norway.

[@guitaristmichaelstark]

Some classic jams here!!

[@ciceroleitao5453]

Great audio! Thanks for sharing!

[@musicuniverse1986]

You're welcome. Thanks for commenting.

[@musicuniverse1986]

Track Listing: 0:00 Bass Solo 03:57 Black Market 12:10 Fannie Mae 18:49 I Shot The Sheriff 25:55 Bireli Solo 28:55 The Chicken 34:57 Bass Solo (including Chromatic Fantasy, Blackbird, Balloon Song & The High And The Mighty) 41:49 Teen Town 54:53 Reza 1:03:23 Smoke On The Water 1:07:32 Bass Solo 1:08:48 Donna Lee 1:16:22 Bass Solo (including Continuum, Portrait Of Tracy, Purple Haze, Amerika)

[@storytimewithunclekumaran5004]

So weird to hear Black Market/Teen Town and its not Weather Report.. I dont think I have heard these songs before outside of the Weather Report context.

[@PIERRE-ERNEST]

I forgot : one of the best version of "The Chicken" i've heard and thank for the sound : perfect (like always)

[@musicuniverse1986]

You're welcome my friend. Thanks for commenting.

[@PIERRE-ERNEST]

@@musicuniverse1986 I finish to upload Stuart Hamm (a pièce who i'm working) and i 'm upload your Jaco's live with Biréli & Thomas in Italia (the live i knew was "Jaco Pastorius : live in Italie" and "Heavy'n jazz" or "Smoke on the water "but it's the same reccord

[@louise_rose]

Thank you for this great upload! I'm a long-term fan of the "Live in Italy" album ever since I first heard it more than twenty years ago - the interplay between these three is simply amazing, and one of the most striking things about the band is what a resourceful drummer Thomas Böröcz is. The guy is both powerful, bouncy and subtle, and completely essential to the band. The other two are well-known stars, even legends (though Lagréne was young at the time) - Böröcz is a bit of a mystery guy. I've never been able to find much info about him (not even on Discogs), but if you listen to a few tracks on Live in Italy, or to "The Chicken" here, it's obvious how critical he is to the sound of the band. And they had never played together with Jaco before some rehearsals shortly before the tour!

[@musicuniverse1986]

Hi Louise. Thanks for taking the time to write such a lengthy comment. Much appreciated :) I agree with everything you said. "Live in Italy" is indeed a great album, one of the best posthumous Jaco releases. Definitely better than most of the Live in NYC discs. You can imagine how thrilled I was when I acquired this recording a few months back. And you're spot on about Thomas Börôsz. A very solid, versatile and worthy member of the trio. I did a search on him a while ago and found virtually nothing. Strange given what a great drummer he is. Maybe he for some reason left the music business and chose another career path? Anyway, thanks again for your great comment, surely one of the best in this comment section. Always nice to connect with fellow Jaco fans. Greetings from Norway :)

[@louise_rose]

@@musicuniverse1986 I just made a new search, and he's not quite as obscure as I thought - though little known outside of Germany, Austria and the Danube region. There's an interview with him, in German, from the summer of 2022 at the site of the Austrian jazz/funk/ rock magazine Backbeat , where he's called Tommy Böröcz and hailed as "Drummer*in des Monats" (Drummer of the Month). He's played with Falco ("Rock me Amadeus"), and with an Austrian funk-fusion band called Ostinato, and he's still active in the music business. :)

[@musicuniverse1986]

@@louise_rose Thanks for the research Louise. I really appreciate it :)

[@PIERRE-ERNEST]

Thank's a lot for that superb live and for uploading with this great sound (a magical trio just before the end of "Joco"

[@musicuniverse1986]

You're welcome Pierre. Thanks for commenting.

[@PIERRE-ERNEST]

@@musicuniverse1986 It's pierre picot (from Marseille) ; i dure ; you miss me (magical treasure music) ; see ( writte) later ...

[@francescoantoniomonaco]

👍👍

[@musicuniverse1986]

Thanks for the reaction..Greetings from Norway

[@alexandresaca]

I guess the Live Italy album must be the same tour they're playing! I will know what is jazz because of Jaco Pastorious! Thanks!

[@musicuniverse1986]

This is indeed the same tour. Thanks for commenting :)

[@storytimewithunclekumaran5004]

great audio on this recording.. I am guessing it was cassette or reel to reel. . I am tired of crappy old recordings that could be cleaned up with modern techniques , but the purists dont want that.. They prefer to listen to totally un-listenable material to "preserve the integrity".. this recordings pretty bright but listenable.. At the end of the day any Jaco recordings are a treat and pretty rare.

[@PIERRE-ERNEST]

The first bass solo (Chromatic Fantasy ... follow by Teen town) are jewels

[@PIERRE-ERNEST]

It's one of best version of "Reza"

[@contrebassearchet]

Sometimes I come across people who tell me that Jaco Pastorius played poorly at the end of his life, and unfortunately these people only remember that about him. His bass solo at 34:57 mins proves that Jaco still played well during this period of the 80s. His solo is masterful. Obviously he also had disastrous moments! But let's not remember that from Jaco, let's remember the good moments like this. Let's remember that at the age of 24 he recorded a legendary and unbeatable album because it was so innovative. Which bassist can boast of having recorded a legendary and innovative album after Jaco's?

[@musicuniverse1986]

Hi, and thanks for taking the time to write such a lengthy comment. I totally agree with what you said. Like you said he did indeed put on some disastrous performances during his last years, the most famous being the '84 meltdown at the Playboy Jazz Festival. But Jaco also had many periods were he was sober/lucid and played like his old self like this tour with Bireli for instance. The solo is you're referrring to is absolutely masterful and he executed "Chromatic Fantasy" flawlessly, something that was not always the case when he performed it with WR. Many bootlegs confirm this. I actually prefer many of the gigs he did from '83 to 87 to the high profile concerts he did during the last couple of years with WR. He had several productive periods in those years, despite the many horror stories that are often exaggerated to propel some kind of myth. Greetings from Norway.

[@JacoPastoriusArchive]

Great recording, but Biréli doesn't sing on Fannie Mae. It's all Jaco.

[@PIERRE-ERNEST]

Hi man it's what i think to : a great show is'n't it ?

[@musicuniverse1986]

I can sort of understand why you think so, because of the strong similarity to the way Jaco phrases his vocals on the version from "Twins", but I'm afraid you're wrong on this one. Bireli must have studied that version vigorously and does a fine job in copying the vibe of Jaco's voice. Besides, among his many talents Bireli is a fine singer and has even recorded an album where he sings old crooner standards.. Again, this is NOT Jaco singing on Fannie Mae. A very unusual choice since Jaco sings it on all the other dozens of versions I've heard. I wonder why he didn't want to sing it himself here.

[@JacoPastoriusArchive]

@@musicuniverse1986 Listen again. If the vocalist was indeed Biréli, why would he tell himself to play a solo at 13:26?

[@musicuniverse1986]

@@JacoPastoriusArchive I don't know. But it is Bireli on vocals. If you can't hear it, well then you can't. Bireli is a better singer than Jaco was. Jaco, when singing this song sounded forced etc. Bireli doesn't.

[@PIERRE-ERNEST]

@@musicuniverse1986 Alors OK je te remercie (le concert reste géant)