Jacobstown, Marcus, and the Nightkin Problem - Fallout New Vegas Lore

[@rom65536]

The first time I met Lily, I was confused. My courier's name was "Jimmy Diamonds" , and when she said "Little Jimmy?" I was all "how's this crazy old lady know my name?"

[@sirismcgee7103]

rom65536 haha

[@SimoPortti]

That's a nice name. I usually play either as Max Rockatansky or Luke Skywalker

[@louiee24]

I always name my characters "Cat" always a blonde haired woman who's a psycho!

[@thatlemonguy1107]

My Courier’s name is Gideon Clark.

[@kaiser1817]

Necrosis the Dremora Warlord I always put a six in brackets beside my name to signify that I am courier 6

[@trashyalice1756]

Easy pete Medium pete Hard pete Very hard pete Incredibly hard pete Hardcore pete Survival pete Beyond difficulty pete

[@mancan2494]

wtf super hard how do you beat this Pete

[@bigiron4450]

Blood and broken bones pete Death match pete Ranger pete

[@TheGrinningViking]

Semi-erect Pete Fully Erect Pete Throbbingly Erect Pete

[@Scythescor]

Eat Pete

[@ewkak.8470]

Impossible Pete peta pete Just no Pete Don't even try Pete You can't do anything pete

[@Yan_Alkovic]

Jacobstown was criminally underdeveloped. It's such a gorgeous area, it features one of the nicest Super Mutants in the whole franchise, and yet there are only 2,5 quests that actually have to do with Jacobstown. If only there were more quests there it would be perfect. And as it is it's half-perfect.

[@Blank55600]

Yan Alkovic i 100% agree! I do wish they made it bigger and had one more companion option... A larger than average super mutant... Named bill.

[@Yan_Alkovic]

+Cody Gore I'd have loved to have Neil as a companion. He was such a nice, civil, intelligent and quite charismatic Super Mutant. He would've been a great companion, just like Fawkes. Instead he barely does anything outside of Black Mountain. That's another hugely underdeveloped character... Maybe he'll reappear in a future Fallout Game, like Marcus or Harold.

[@Yan_Alkovic]

+UnDeadBobus I know. I just can't help but wish for this game to be even more expansive than it already is. Especially in the parts that I feel _needed_ expanding.

[@nasunothecat7499]

just gonna add to this here, they only were able to make about half the game world they wanted too obsidian had planned to add an entire eastern section of the map similar in size to the NCR lands we are in controlled by the legion, dont know if Jacobstown would have been bigger but if they had more time it might have been

[@lanceuppercut6168]

There's a mod that adds a lot (if not all) of content that they wanted to include originally. It's called the J Sawyer mod or something.

[@MissScarletTanager]

Hearing normal voices from super mutants is so freakin' weird after playing a bunch of FO4 and without doing too much FNV or FO3. I am so used to the grunt/shouting gruff tone.

[@MissScarletTanager]

@Irritable Down syndrome Fawkes, Virgil, Lily, Tabitha and co., etc. all have the gruff voice and are intelligent Super Mutants. The point was that's it's weird NOT to hear that particular type of voice from super mutants after playing the 3D titles.

[@JCDenin]

I suppose the grunt/shouting tones and behavior between super Mutants can be justified by the fact that there's 3 different "species" of Super Mutants: Mariposa Base ones (F1, F2, NV), Vault 34 ones (F3) and Institute ones (F4)

[@leoanathetiger6814]

@@JCDenin On a similar subject matter, can we just mention that the Institute managed to create the crappiest super mutants. They seem to be the weakest, least civilized, and dumbest of all the super mutants types we've seen so far. Apparently laser weapons aren't the only things they're bad at creating.

[@Jaxon_America]

@@leoanathetiger6814 dumbest, least cilvilized? Yes, definitely. Weakest? Nah fam, those fuckers can tank multiple fat mans at high level.

[@Denominov]

@@JCDenin In over a year, no one has pointed out that it’s actually Vault 87

[@beaupoopoo256]

Imagine being that one fool that named his character jimmy

[@shadysam7161]

this reminds me of that poor bastard who named his character "gary" and went into the gary vault.

[@DaShoopdahoop]

*G A R Y*

[@shadysam7161]

@@DaShoopdahoop HAHAHA! Gary!

[@gabork5055]

That gave me an idea to name my next one Caesar, Bottlecap mine, Driver Nephi, Cook-Cook, Deathclaw, Vault-tec or Benny.

[@justanormalweeb204]

@@shadysam7161 gary?

[@mattbluesmantastic]

I love how with some mutants like Lily it caused them to speak with both the upper and lower vocal chords giving them that devil incarnate way of speaking.

[@tiefighter8401]

Wish there was an option to make a supermutant army for the dam battle

[@unholymalformationoffisto2131]

TIE Fighter An army of super mutants (sane ones such as the ones in jacobstown..well mostly) trained and armed by the courier would likely absolutely cream the NCR or Legion. Considering you could somehow tame them it'd be much like independent new vegas sweeping through the fort like a hurricane.

[@waynejohnson4252]

people probably wouldn't except a super mutant army but that would be efficient

[@julesmcgrules3860]

A wall of gatling lasers, miniguns, grenade machine guns, anti materiel rifles...yeah, they'd cream them all right. Even the securitrons wouldn't stand a chance.

[@mikkikikki]

Master, is that you?

[@leoanathetiger6814]

I would say it wouldn't make sense for a Legion or Mr. House endings. But they would make sense for an Independent Vegas and NCR endings. The Independent Vegas ending makes sense as the super mutants would feel in debt to you, and would help you fight on that day. But I mostly like an NCR ending idea for this though. The NCR would open up trade and ease hostilities with the super mutants. In exchange, the super mutants would help fight at Hoover Dam, and help patrol the nearby areas. This similar to what happens in The Brotherhood allying with NCR.

[@alex_ho]

Remember, Speech is always a crucial stat to lvl.

[@theghostofthomasjenkins9643]

in an obsidian game, it's the most important stat to level.

[@Nugget_prime]

@@theghostofthomasjenkins9643 Then you have F4...

[@theghostofthomasjenkins9643]

@@Nugget_prime yeah, fallout 4 is a better building sim than it as fallout game.

[@MiguelAngel-go4ck]

@@theghostofthomasjenkins9643 honestly jokes aside building shit in fallout 4 is pretty damn fun

[@brandonbarnes8997]

@@MiguelAngel-go4ck hope they keep the building in a new game but they seriously need to go back to a better rpg and I would rather they focus that wayyyy more

[@ingasparrow]

I love that they brought back Michael Dorn to play Marcus. That was a nice touch. Lily ranks as my third favorite Companion. (Boone and Arcade are the first two.) I love how loving, protective and sweet she is to the Courier. Her story is the most tragic to me of all the companions. She has a similar problem of needing something to hold onto in order to have an identity outside of the Master. Dog/God is split into a need for outside guidance and the desire to forge his own identity. Tabatha has Rhonda and Davidson has his Brahmin skull, Antler who they look to for guidance. They're both lost without them. Lily has Leo. But Lily doesn't hope to be human again or that the Master will come back. She just wants to remember her family. It's the one remaining memory of her life where she wasn't a part of the Master's Army. It's a strong part of her identity. No matter what you advise her to do, Lily loses an important part of herself.

[@MechWarrior894]

God, I'm glad it wasn't just me who heard Marcus twice. He's a god damn legend.

[@PaulJones-dz5jr]

Brought back Michael Dorn? Did he voice another character in another Fallout game?

[@minkeyandzomble6206]

@Paul Jones: Yes, he plays Marcus in Fallout 2 as well they brought him back to reprise his rile as Marcus for New Vegas.

[@phantomspidey9747]

@@minkeyandzomble6206 And voiced Frank Horrigan in Fallout 2 as well

[@hudsonberg-ws9gv]

You are going to make me cry. You are the kind of people that make the fallout fandom perfect.

[@jakecole8343]

"...a man's got needs" *Ad with really innocent happy music starts playing*

[@MrRyeRob1]

I have schizophrenia. The nightkin quest line struck deep with me, because I felt/feel a similar feeling that nightkin do. I'm constantly paranoid, and I have a very hard trusting anyone. I don't like being stared at because it makes me feel like a freak. But with the right meds I find things manageable. Anyway great video Ox, I was excited when you started NV specifically for you to cover Jacobstown

[@brandonlyon730]

Interesting, did you also once hear voices in your head, what were they like, did they sound like actually voices or were they like whispers?Sorry if it makes you uncomfortable I'm just curious.

[@MrRyeRob1]

Brandon Lyon no worries man, I am comfortable talking about, try and reduce stigma. I hear whispers personally, almost sounds like an unmoderated KZbin comment section. I get told to kill myself and told that i'm useless/hopeless/insert mean words here. Those are the loud days. On quiet days I can go hours without hearing voices, a lot of it comes down to anxiety. When i don't keep it in check I tend to start getting paranoid, assessing the threat levels around me constantly, and i'll hear the whispers.

[@brandonlyon730]

That's good to know, glad your doing well.

[@bigiron4450]

PlotagonRadio takes a lot of courage not only to speak freely about it, but to live with it and confront it that way. He's a strong one. I wish him the best of luck.

[@ottovonbisquick6996]

Brandon Lyon that's not paranoia dumbo was a great movie P.S good luck with your paranoia hope you get better

[@pmk-es1rw]

Norton's idle dialogue really shows the detail Obsidian put in, even if some areas are lacking, I thought it was a nice touch. "Its so much cooler up here, I love it." That line makes me smile for some reason, I love it.

[@_PeterGabriel1216]

pmk 2034 yeah! I love how they incorporated event the smallest details in dialogue.

[@GothaBillsAndDeath]

Much like the emptiness in the Strip, the missing Legion quests, the 2-3 quests in Jacobs Town even though it's its own area, Bethesda reallllyyy didn't give Obsidian enough time to expand. We can only hope Fallout Frontier and Fallout New California fills in the gaps.

[@fluiypj]

A Better Tomorrow I heard the next game will be in the Midwest

[@brandonlyon730]

I was hoping for a game in the deep South for once that place is hardly talked about it explored in the fallout universe. Atlanta Georgia could be a good location for a game.

[@nathan051499]

Brandon Lyon maybe with charleston in a dlc, I live in upstate sc

[@CarlosConsorcioCastellanoPerez]

El paso Texas would be a great location it's the best was to get something to anywhere in North America I imagine it would become a huge trading hub in the apocalypse it's already in use by some cartels to get there goods around so maybe a huge Mexican raider gang, some enclave remnants , and brotherhood of steel maybe even a NTR New Texas Republic

[@arbiter-]

Unfortunately we will never get another Obsidian Fallout. It hurts me to say it, especially after how bad Fallout 4 is. I don't think we'll ever get another amazing game in the series.

[@DrJellyFanguzzz]

I like how Marcus correctly pronounce "Caesar"

[@assadawutpetchlam4279]

*PERFECT SPOT FOR A NIGHTKIN SETTLEMENT*

[@Zack-et9wj]

*PRESTON GARVEY WANT TO KNOW YOUR LOCATION*

[@tylersoto7465]

@@stupididiot5114 ikr lol

[@crypticzomb8994]

iLL mARk iT On yOUr mAp

[@tylersoto7465]

Perfect place for a atoms cat garage

[@SxTxferlife]

' 15:07 ' I swear I thought Calamity said she "mates" for supplies, I'd find that quite impressive if she found someone willing to constantly pay to sleep with a ghoul, especially one so very old

[@zeynaviegas]

i love her, my favorite ghoul in new vegas. I wish we could interact with her a lot more

[@AdriannaDaFox98]

Alot of ghouls were made during the Apocalypse but it's kind of a crap shoot to see who stays sane and whose brains melt and go Feral

[@themadmonk6379]

Marcus has some good voice acting. I like when super mutants don't sound like idiots

[@MusingMageofDisney]

Well considering he's voiced by the man who portayed Worf...

[@XSilver_WaterX]

With severe uncanny valley with that smooth scaling of his face. He looks like he could forcibly kiss me and bite my head off!

[@GiordanDiodato]

@@MusingMageofDisney he also voiced Marcus in Fallout 2.

[@michaelbarbarich3965]

​@@GiordanDiodatoand Frank Horrigan

[@bradleygraves2935]

I remember watching my own dad go through extreme schizophrenia before taking his life in October 2012. He was fine up until early 2012, then just went crazy. Seeing cameras lights, thinking people were sitting outside talking about him, even beat the holy shit out of me once when he accused me of helping the government get info about him. Playing the missions involving the Nightkin has always made me feel bad knowing dad was somewhat like that.

[@LordVolta]

Me being a fallout 3 player and how the supermutants sound in that game, Marcus's voice sounds amazing compared to fo3s supermutants.

[@LordVolta]

I don't own new vegas, so is this how most other supermutants sound?

[@1161ofmany]

R y a n Usually any that are actually intelligent or stable sound like this or similar. But the majority sound like Fallout 3 if i remember correctly.

[@LordVolta]

Senpai Grovyle I think it's good, the DLCs were really cool. Base game was good too.

[@DesolateCosmo]

R y a n the voice actor of marcus of fnv is same as the one in fallout 2. More detail of marcus, broken hills, and jacob in fallout 2. But i think oxhorn covered it all anyway

[@labratiam1]

gen 2's were kind of dumb but still smart to a certain point. Falkes is a gen 2. most gen 3's are dumb due to the radiation they have.

[@madcourier6217]

Visited Mt. Charleston a couple years ago when I visited Las Vegas, It was one of the prettiest places I've ever been. It was amazing to visit all these locations I explored in New Vegas in real life.

[@garretwoeller7669]

I love lilly she is best companion also i think lilly was a grandma

[@f.b.i5008]

Artyom Egorov haha haha haha haha haha haha haha haha

[@papa-maple41]

Garret Woeller same dude she so dumb don't tell her I sid that

[@NerzJansch2]

She was a vault grandma that has been kidnapped by the master, once read some deleted dialoge in the logs that made that clear. Something about her grandkids allways wearing blue, and their laugh echoeing in the tunnels. Or something like that.

[@deadweight4897]

Garret Woeller lel i think the same

[@theweredragon9887]

She was a black grandma from one of the vaults. Her grandkids died in the seige and she became a nightkin. She only takes half of her dementia medication so she can rember them :,(

[@tenkoshimura4882]

Holy crap Marcus is the same Marcus from Fallout two

[@Bluesit32]

Ashlee Hobbs You know it. Practically immortal, you know.

[@SeriousDragonify]

​@@Bluesit32They're not immortal. Just very extended lifespan from radiations.

[@Bluesit32]

@@SeriousDragonify Hence "practically".

[@texalian6010]

HEY THERE PUMPKIN, WANNA BAKE COOKIES WITH GRANDMA?

[@zeynaviegas]

i love her so cute

[@hudsonberg-ws9gv]

Fuck yeah

[@Resecupss]

"And once we leave the bungalow, we see snow" NCR Troop: Wait, nuclear winter?

[@renaxakai3]

I always loved Lily. My thoughts are that if she wants to, she should be allowed to. She may have schizophrenia, but somewhere in her mind, it is possible that she knows what will happen to her from the experiments. I always go for the Science check though.

[@tylersoto7465]

She could try taking med x cuz it's a pain killer that could help steady her mind maybe drink some moonshine to calm her down and maybe some mentats to help with intelligence and probably some buffout to straighten her out lol

[@0MVR_0]

The quote is from Athenian general Thucydides stating: "We hope that you, instead of thinking to influence us by saying that you did not join the Lacedaemonians [Spartans], although their colonists, or that you have done us no wrong, will aim at what is feasible, holding in view the real sentiments of us both; since you know as well as we do that right, as the world goes, is only in question between equals in power, while *the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must*."

[@theweredragon9887]

I bet the bunker man found the girls in the bungalow one of them agreed however only if he beat them in a hand of Poker he cheated and the girl shot him

[@goodship2]

I agree with that. Cuz his body was not in the bunker lol

[@ceo661]

the Were Dragon no I think the man you know what to these people

[@Vinylicstone]

I never knew it was there the bunker

[@PretzlcoatlTheFirst]

WHAT

[@melelconquistador]

That could be it, the supplies in the bunker is untouched. He probably made the tape locked up the bunker for the mean time and went off to run his own errands only to never come back.

[@Corky1O1c]

Wow. Just yesterday I was playing through the Black Mountain quests in NV & thought "I hope Oxhorn does a video on Jacobstown and Lily soon!" He knows....

[@grahaminnes9448]

Watching this at 1am over here in Australia, by far Oxhorn is my favourite KZbinr, keep up the great work!

[@marshallandriley]

The water is HIGHLY irradiated dealing 1 rads per second

[@bramweenink7697]

oxhorn I chose to let Lily wear the stealth boy to speed up the results in my first play through. In my second play i put on the followers of the apocalypse lab coat and a programmers digest to get my science high enough to pass the science check. Both options felt good to me. Because you can negate some of the side effects based on the choices you can make in Lily' s companion quest. Loved the video. Also I think Davidson and antler from the repconn test site may have come from Jacobstown. Marcus did say some nightkin left a little while ago.

[@kingslayer8431]

Waiting for oxhorn to do the full story of the divide is worst then waiting for Christmas morning. Its gonna be great😂😂😂

[@cid4761]

One of the few things I disliked about New Vegas was the fact that there weren't enough Super Mutant/Nightkin quest to make it feel like they've actually established an existence in the Mojave.

[@devonjaffre9424]

Probably because obsideon had a short time to make the game they were going to add more but didn't have enough time you can't blame them Bethesda just didn't give them enough time

[@luckyotaku4002]

@@devonjaffre9424 I think it more to that like for example new Vegas was suppose to bigger most rpg have problems having thing really big like that for console so maybe they make it small Bc it could make more crash and other thing for Xbox 360 and with fallout new Vegas fanboys always blaming Bethesda if you want to blame someone blame zenimax their parents company most likely tell them what the fuck to do they just listen Bethesda can’t say a word against to there parents company

[@starwolfcyberlight4546]

There are actually 2 hours of cut content in Fallout New Vegas.

[@bethrubiano5313]

I think, with you to guide and protect (and possibly stop) her--and not to mention Lily's willingness--that Lily continuing to use the Stealth Boy Mk.2 is an acceptable risk. Beneath the forgetfulness and the violence egged on by "Leo", Lily always struck me as a good person who does truly want to help those in need, and since the people in question are her own kin (pun unapologetically intended), to her, there is no reason not to be the subject of the experiment, and that's a position I can respect.

[@zxyatiywariii8]

Wow yes, that's what I thought but I couldn't put into words. Great description. And cool dog, btw!

[@tigersebel]

Ok. How the fuck are you able to make 6 videos a week with this quality? are you working in some kind of hyperbolic time chamber or what?

[@mikemarks6136]

They're pre-recorded

[@darraghmcdonald9719]

Mike Marks Your comment doesn't make sense. Even if they are pre recorded he'd still have to make 6 videos a week.

[@TheArchersSeriously]

From bingeing videos, I'm pretty sure he either a) films constantly during 100% playthroughs and edits later, or b) has 100% playthroughs with extensive (and well-documented) saves, so he can visit similar areas with different characters, and revisit them for extra footage later if needed. Guy has a remarkable work ethic though. If he just works 9-5 six days a week, that's 8 hours devoted to each video.

[@ded2thaworld963]

He’s a mutant, scotch and cigars give him powers we humans don’t quite understand.

[@iseeyoubrothegreedyvaultbo7435]

tigersebel he must have perkaloic gobblegum.:)

[@raymondbattles1779]

I thought when the older supper mutants get older they would grow like how behemoths are.

[@maccready8979]

Raymond Battles Super Mutants only become a "Behemoth", once they are exposed to enough of the FEV virus, and radiation. (I think.)

[@Bluesit32]

Raymond Battles It's all in the strain of the virus and the person's genetic make-up, really.

[@ako6760]

No they are secretly Pokémon and just evolve like the radscorpions and raiders

[@TweekMorgan4dictator]

That doesn't make sense considering Swan though. He might be a bit older, considering that the FEV lab in the Institute has been down for a while, but definitely not older than first generation super mutants like Marcus or Neil.

[@unknowninformation1560]

Hello Oxhorn! I just wanted to say thank you for going in-depth around 29:40. I love the fact that you go in-depth on these sort of topics and share your own opinion. I have particularly high anxiety myself due to my autism. Fallout NV is my most favorite Fallout because is has moments like these. Where it makes you think into real world situations like this. Your series on Fallout NV is my most favorite, so I just wanted to thank you Oxhorn for sharing some things some of your community would never have given a thought to.

[@jonathansimmons3344]

"There are five bungalos most of which are borded up, and ruined but there are three that we can explore" Oxhorn I'm afraid you might be losing it.

[@eightbait06]

Are Stealth Boys...REAL? [insert incredibly dramatic "BWAAAAAAAA" here]

[@timmyteaches7663]

Simmons he does say some questionable things often enough.

[@aza3ful1]

5 that have boards on windows but only 3 to walk into

[@planescaped]

5 bungalows.... Most of them are boarded up.... three can be entered.... XFD

[@PretzlcoatlTheFirst]

Logic(snorts in French)

[@Palmieres]

_In the lodge_ Daughter: "Mom.. there's a man outside, looking for a way in. I think it's the same one who went by yesterday" Mother: "Omg. This is it, he might be just what we need to get us out of this horrible situation" Daughter: "Are you sure about this, Mom? I'm not sure it's a good idea. What if he's not--" Mother: "Honey, we have no choice. The world outside is in chaos, there're wild animals, irradiated monsters, looters... We can't risk going out there by ourselves, we need him" _Daughter takes a deep breath and nods_ "All right, I'll open the door for him. Just... be ready" _Mother closes her hands around the hilt of her axe_ "He'll last us a few weeks if we're smart with our portions. This one looks well fed compared to the last one"

[@confucius5640]

Tasty

[@kimshlongunnhh9994]

Oooh 😯

[@CPLsmilez]

Are you claiming cannibals lived in the lodges before?

[@dialdude3770]

That was certainly a twist.

[@reddeaddude2187]

That's pretty evil

[@thedothackfan]

Oxhorn, you are a blessing and a bad ass. You revealing the in-depth, meticulous knowledge of the Fallout realm and your intellectual points of view gives crazed fanatics like me a heavier passion toward the franchise and a firmer understanding of the lore. Thank you for your commitment and hard work. Keep it up, brother!

[@weed3728]

Oxhorn I just want you to know these videos make my day even when I'm in a bad mood so thank you it's good to see this channel growing

[@KK-qm1mr]

There is a good chance that no one who reads this will get the rather obscure reference, but the relationship between the super mutants and their "imaginary friends" (those that have them) reminds me of Argel Tal and Raum. It also reminds me of Harold and Bob, except Bob had its own physical form growing off Harold.

[@squidsminion]

I wish there was an option to hug Marcus when growing up he was one of my favorite characters ah childhood😌

[@vonshroom2068]

Just go to a startrek convention and hug the man who played worf instead. He was his voice actor ;)

[@rowdsterrex7845]

"Dat give Bender five kings." "I don't believe it! It's the King of Beers, a coaster that accidentally got shuffled into the deck! And it still counts!" - 7:45

[@Jebbtube]

If there's no other alternative, I think experimenting on Lily is ultimately the better(ish) outcome. Not only does she volunteer for it, addled though she may be, it's the adage of the needs of the many > needs of the few.

[@UltimateGamerCC]

im always uneasy when at anytime sacrifice is needed for progress sake, it seems like taking an easy road, ust enlist some lab rats and you will find your cure for whatever ails you. if schizo was a terminal condition i would see the point, but Lily is a nice girl who has been through quite enough.

[@MrPsych77]

Also with science skills its unnecessary

[@tylersoto7465]

All you need is a tranquilizer or anxiety chem to keep schizophrenia paranoia away I Know some of my best friends have schizophrenia paranoia and they just take anxiety or tranquilizer etc meds, all the nightkin need to do is get a relaxing chem, like med x it's a powerful pain killer and just take a little bit from the syringe little bit of a time during the day to relax them to balance out there dopamine and serotonin levels etc to help it out, or drink moonshine casually staying mildly buzzed during the day to keep mood in check , or smoke cigars laced with a mentat, mentats are cognitive inhancers that help sharpen the memory and consideration part of the mind but the nicotine helps with calm mind and balance mood , so probably do med x for 2 wks, moonshine for 2 wks and mentat laced cigars for 2 wks and on and on, can't be on one drug for too long or your body will build up a tolerance level needing more and more etc so that would I suggest since they can easily make that stuff or aquire it from vendors etc

[@thelazaruspit3785]

Man you deserve all the growth I can go back to one of your new vegas videos and still find it entertaining you show all the possible options and outcomes love it 100/10

[@sunnypandey2248]

I don't think people fully appreciate that this video is almost 1HOUR LONG!!!!.

[@PretzlcoatlTheFirst]

Sunny Pandey yey

[@Mr_Spooner]

I know it’s an old video, but I do love it when you read the responses as if you are actually conversing with the NPC. makes the whole story more real

[@BobPantsSpongeSquare97]

Pretty amazing how Marcus was around during the time of The Master and now sees Caesar's Legion encroaching on the Mojave. I wonder what OG Fallout 2 fans felt when first playing New Vegas and seeing Marcus once again being a mayor

[@evanprince3875]

Oxhorn adds so much to these places when he talks about them. I've always liked the way he'll expand upon the player's dialogue options, just to make the conversations feel realer!

[@AlwaysCooper]

I’m not speced into melee at all on my character, but I only use Oh Baby! because it’s just so good, and it’s fun to use.

[@monroerobbins7551]

Gotta admit, I think out of all the characters besides Boone and Victoria, I like talking with Marcus the most. He provides an interesting and very eloquent perspective of a super mutant, a mayor, a leader, it’s just so neat. We get to know more about what was happening before the events of Fallout 2, with our Chosen One, and… it just makes it so much more interesting. He’s a man of the people, he is a good man, and he is forthcoming, it’s funny. Plus his voice is soothing.

[@adammnm9129]

Nightkin are over sized smurfs

[@Solrac731]

Adam_Gamer with a taste for blood

[@radiousis49]

I thought of em as beefed up shreks lol

[@adammnm9129]

Trevor7775 they are lol

[@joneill5298]

The Lily encounter is so much better if you imagine her with like an old grandma voice

[@willgillies5670]

Does Marcus look a bit like Ron Pearlman or is it just me?

[@mindyauron]

Whenever I see an Ox video longer than 30 minutes, my family and I (yes, my whole family loves your videos Ox, all 8 of us. My twin, two sisters, 3 brothers and my mum) make some popcorn to watch together. This being almost an hour we had to make a few things of it. Keep up the great work man

[@AUTISTICLYCAN]

Odd as it might seem Lilly despite how she looks is a lady a really class lady. Moreover she has a VERY Strong Motherly instinct. You learn that Lilly is a very giving protective motherly sort if you have her as a companion. I choose Lilly as a companion and grew to love how she sort of took me under her wing as her own family. It literally breaks my heart to do it but I would allow Lilly to continue doing the doctors experiments not because; I think Lilly is expendable or less worthy than any human. I think it is in Lilly's true nature to help, defend and look out for those who suffer as the Nightkin do. I don't think Lilly fears death or disability the way most humans do. I think Lilly knows that her suffering will be the salvation of all those nightkin suffering with mental illness due to stealth boys. I think the developers of the game missed a truly awesome moment to touch the hearts of the gamers. I think if Lilly's sacrifice resulted in a cure being found for the Nightkin there should have been a statue erected in her honor at the Town's Center and all the Nightkin wear a badge or something commemorating her unselfish act. I just think that would have added class to the ending in addition to the survival and prosperity of the town. I know it is sappy but I really grew to love having Lilly as a companion she was an awesome lady! She made a great companion for an autistic werewolf!

[@justinfrost7970]

Marcus, Joshua Graham, and Ulysses all have very soothing voices :P

[@darkxaur]

Michael Dorn up in this place.

[@swishfish8858]

I fucking love finding him in games. One of my favorite pasttimes. I call it "Spot the Worf".

[@drakkenmensch]

Michael Dorn voice means instant awesome character!

[@UnderfedShmuck]

You're the only KZbinr I watch that I don't groan when ads come on, you make quality content and I know the ads are your paycheck

[@fburnsDubstepEnderFox]

Stealthboys cause schizophrenia then I'm glad my character relies on her naturally honed stealth.

[@petargrad2293]

They only cause schizophrenia for Nightkins anyway

[@tylersoto7465]

Idk why the nightkin don't just drink moonshine casually to be mildly buzzed alcohol helps come the nerves etc for schizophrenia, or take med x it's a powerful pain killer to help with it or smoke cigars laced with a mental cuz mentat is a cognitive inhancer helping with memory and consideration but the nicotine helps come the nerves to help you regulate their emotions, like drink alcohol for 2 weeks, then take some med x for 2 wks and smoke mentat laced cigars for 2 wks and etc so your body doesn't build up a tolerance level etc and to help them out wished there were more different chems to pick from to help out more would of been great if marijuana was in fallout it can help out alot lol

[@fluff46]

25:33 ngl this was pretty smooth oxhorn you took all caps and insteas of giving them you just killed the mercs lol

[@TheSpoofer9000]

Oxhorn you should do a video onPresident eden from fallout 3 or a video on the enclave faction in general

[@Chensoman]

Phil Crownover yeah that would be cool

[@weed3728]

Phil Crownover give him time he will cover it ;)

[@keilanLord]

Hey, Oxhorn. I recently went back on fallout as my life got a bit shit lately, I went back to Fallout after not playing it for like a year and came across your account a few days ago. Your videos are amazing, full of info and lore I've never known and answers to questions I ask myself while playing the games are now answered. It makes me love the game even more. Keep doing what you're doing dude 👍

[@nekoali2]

I never knew about the bunker in the nightstalker cave. But we can see how that mindset would be all to common after an apocalypse. That's how raiders got started after all. I wish Jacobstown was a little more lively and town like. Multiple vendors, maybe a bar or something like that instead of just a mutant bunk house. Maybe it could improve after you finish the quest and return after a while, so you can see the town improve instead of just being told about it. I think letting Lily continue the experiments is the moral choice, though when I did it I had the high science to avoid making that decision. While she may be confused and probably suffer from some dementia where she confuses people for her grandchildren, it does seem a fairly mild case and she is aware of what is being asked of her. I feel she is very much mentally competent enough to understand what is being asked, what the risks and likely outcome is and fully able to make that informed decision. And she choose the route of nobility, putting her own life on the line to help others. I think in the end, it is her decision that should be honored.

[@michaelrameyjr.5468]

I always do the quest and just leave. I never do any snooping for the bunker.

[@ariadneb5261]

I’ve seen this video time and time again, it’s one of my favourites. And tonight something dawned on me when Marcus talked about his friend Jacob and that they fought for days but were an equal match and afterwards became friends. The Jacob from the Bible fought with an man/angel for a time and at one point the man/angel gives up and blesses Jacob. Couldn’t help but notice the parallel between these two stories.

[@mikemarks6136]

Hey oxhorn just letting you know your narration is amazing I work uber and in my down time I listen to your videos when I can't get rides lol

[@tharuukalt3482]

This one of my favorite stories I suffer from social anxiety and it all just hits close I’ve spent countless hours with Marcus and the group they make me feel at home

[@osiris_the_great6861]

Wonderful finally some smart super mutants

[@toaster9922]

like the ones from the original fallout!

[@brandonlyon730]

In fallout 1 the only smart super mutants you encounter were the lieutenant and the master (if you count him as one) every other super mutant was just a dumb brute.

[@brandonlyon730]

I'm talking about fallout 1 on the west coast.

[@KitsuneRogue]

Most first generation super mutants are rather intelligent. It's the successive generations that lose their higher cognitive thinking capabilities.

[@labratiam1]

first gen's whom were fresh minds were enhanced to greater Intelligence. This is why super's attacked vaults.

[@peterli9433]

I have not played Fallout for a long time but I remembered Marcus because Fallout 2 was one of my favourite of the series. When Bethesda took over and made it into a FPS, that was when I stopped all the fallout series. However your videos are very well made and the narration makes it into a beautiful story. I have watched several of your videos and have enjoyed all of them. I do not plan on playing any of the newer (FPS) fallout games unless they go back to the isometric bird eye view/ turn based combat style. But seeing Marcus again brought back many good memories, thanks Oxhorn, you have a subscriber!

[@The_Watchful_Scribe]

I actually really like Jacobstown It’s people the atmosphere despite never playing the first two games I love Marcus as a character and I like the goal he set out to do for his own people

[@finalspace6115]

I can't believe I literally just watched all of this. Great video man!

[@brucedavidson9499]

personaly i think this plae has some wasted potential there should be a way to set up a truse between the mutants and the NCR that way you could have a couple of mutants fighting by your side at the dam

[@zeynaviegas]

I bet obsidian would have made that if it had more time

[@MechWarrior894]

God, I heard this Marcus's voice and it brought me back to Fallout 2's Marcus. They must've hired the same voice actor. I'm glad they didn't change.

[@Kaledrone]

39:18 That's a hulk reference if I've ever seen one.

[@phen6075]

love that you included the different endings.

[@GCJACK83]

Marcus also worked with Harold, Herbert/ Bob, and Jacob to found Broken Hills.

[@X-SPONGED]

Patrolling the mojave almost makes you wish for a trip to jacobstown

[@YourLocalRaccoon]

Oxhorn what would you think about a prewar game set in the fallout universe? Not a full fallout game of course, different title, different game style, but in the same universe. It'd be a way for Bethesda to further flesh out the lore and show players some of the events leading up to the war. Alternatively, a game almost like fallout shelter, but you play as vault tec, using the vaults to do insidious things to the dwellers to see what happens. Creating vaults with unique ways of testing. Anyway that's just my little idea. What do you think?

[@samferguson02]

Thanks for doing this video oxhorn I asked for this a couple of months ago

[@ArgentDeer]

Lily: BUT IS IT LORE-FRIENDLY, JIMMY?!?!!! And Keene isn't too keen to meet you XDDD

[@sidthekid1170]

I cant even imagine marcus being in the super mutant army with his voice 😂 "GGRAAAH STUPID HUMANS!"

[@Rubix003]

Marcus's origin story is loosely based on Kahless the Unforgettable from star trek.... Kahless fought his brother for 7 days until he killed him.... Shortly after he unified the Klingons and founded First City..... And there was peace for a time.

[@swishfish8858]

There's probably some real-world religion that tells a similar story. Not a lot of lore in Trek is truly original, it's all quilted together from reality.

[@SuperDodger64]

Loosely based on Gilgamesh and Enkidu, I expect. King abuses his power, the gods send a monster, they fight as equals and then become friends and protect people in the city instead of abusing them. Balance of powers in government is a very old idea.

[@planescaped]

Also voiced by Michael Dorn.... Worf.

[@GuardianM25]

Hey Ox, Lily has a great ranged option when you play with her, making her an even better stealth companion. Lily is a great companion and I hope she'll have your back in future videos!

[@jlpc5789]

Calamity's voice actor sounds like she has stage 9 lung cancer.

[@TarossBlackburn]

Considering Ghouls...

[@keylime1237]

She probably smoker

[@duchessedeberne3909]

Key Lime xDD

[@MrPsych77]

With the exception of Dean all the ghouls did

[@Okuni_]

Most ghouls Has degraded vocal cords I think

[@DBZNation1992]

Marcus and Fawkes are my favorite super mutants in the series

[@arbiter-]

Sounds so weird the way you pronounce ED-E. I've always said each letter separately, not sure why. Also, look at Dr. Henry's hand at 38:57 Creepy.

[@iseeyoubrothegreedyvaultbo7435]

Arbiter91 he is a alien,ALL THE ENCLAVE ARE ALIENS ATTACK THE US GOVERMENT.

[@teslanewton2194]

I did but then I played lonesome road.

[@teslanewton2194]

I spoke ED-E as individual letters too I mean

[@bethrubiano5313]

Side note: Yay!! Videos about Super Mutants! I'm at work just listening to the videos and I still had to say "yay!" softly to myself when you said you plan to explore the variations of Super Mutants; in this instance, you speak specifically of how they age. So happy that something I requested will be reality eventually, (even though I'm sure I'm not the only one who asked for something like that).

[@214Lokichaos]

Love your videos man.... love watching them... keep up the good work

[@MichaelMurphy-wv4so]

I did the 90 science option.....had to lvl up, wear gear, pop some mentats etc.......but I was happy with the result. Who wouldn't want to help Marcus, he's such a nice person....ahem, super mutant

[@ericrenquist6494]

So the Nightkin are basically in rehab lol

[@gonzalez4123]

In the bungalows he missed one of the books to increase a stat I don’t remember what stat it was but I think it’s in the first bungalow in the floor next to the coffee machine at 7:34 it’s the orange book. Not really sure if it is one of those books it could be just part of the texture but I know there is a book in one of the bungalows.

[@lonecourierjoeyv2133]

i have anxiety, i cant stand large crowds (like a mall) i feel very uneasy and nausious when i do go to one

[@Yoder023]

Hi, I'm from the future: Yes, Suoer Mutants age. Their maximum age is not known. They become more aggressive as they age. This all makes Marcus VERY RARE, indeed

[@tacoblocko]

Did you say... “Muhlee” weapon?

[@couldbeusabaker7532]

tacoblocko HAHAHA

[@steakdriven]

Nothing beats replaying a quest line in New Vegas and then watching Oxhorn's video about it afterwards.

[@sturmtruppenelite3247]

Norton’s a nice Mercenary compared to many others.

[@alfraser9083]

38:00 "Possibly immediate and permanent *METAL* damage."

[@braydenwade2130]

Your voice is so soothing

[@william2glaser227]

My first time through I had just played fallout 3 for the first time, where fawkes was the only good super mutant, so I assumed they were all violent here and it was an encampment, so I slaughtered all of them, until I accidentally killed the doctor who I thought was like prisoner and my quest failed and I realized I wasn’t supposed to do that