JaDeD Brewing Scylla Super Fast Homebrewers Chiller Review

[@spawn2qc217]

I brewed lots of beers with my grainfather and its counterflow chiller. Today, I brewed my first one with Jaded Scylla and oh my... It's sooo fast! I could see temperature go down 1dC per second. I'm so happy. Thank you David!

[@DavidHeathHomebrew]

Sure is great , I am super impressed.

[@BEERNBBQBYLARRY]

Good to see you using JaDeD!

[@DavidHeathHomebrew]

Thanks Larry, awesome quality and superfast! Impossible to ignore!

[@marklpaulick]

I got one of these for my grainfather last year, love it. I think the biggest perk is the ease of cleaning, obviously besides also being so fast. I let it sit on top of the false bottom, feels extra secure.

[@DavidHeathHomebrew]

Great to hear Mark. Yes, this works nicely :)

[@irishdarkness]

I've been using mine for about 3 years now (and got rid of the grainfather cfc). This is an amazing tool. I brew a lot of IPAs with big whirlpools. I started to NOT put my chiller on the false bottom (too many hops push through) and use my paddle slid between the hot and cold tubes to suspend it in the wort. This, in effect, keeps it about 2" off of the false bottom. I also modified the pump tubing to allow me to run it during the whirlpool with the outlet submerged under the surface of the wort. I've had amazing results. The only challenge I have with cleaning the scylla is when I use John Haas ingonito and flex in the boil/whirlpool. It takes a bit more with pure grain alcohol to clean it off - but overall I suggest it to everyone.

[@DavidHeathHomebrew]

Great to hear Samuel. Sounds like an interesting method :)

[@paskrell]

Great video. Tip: I’ll stay counterflow for now. If you submerge a second submerge chiller in ice water best to add salt to it. It further cools it down.

[@DavidHeathHomebrew]

Thanks. Yes the salt trick works but best to use a pump rather than another immersion chiller.

[@andrewbinsted6038]

I know this is an older video, but how does this chiller hold up with the use of a whirlpool arm? It seems that having such a tight space between the coils would hinder the formation of a trub cone.

[@DavidHeathHomebrew]

No problem. I have only used it with brewing systems with a false bottom where this is not a concern. So it is hard to advise on this, sorry.

[@OliverHoerold]

Thanks for the tips. I just got my JADED E-MMERSION Chiller and will try stirring the wort while cooling.

[@DavidHeathHomebrew]

Great, you are going to notice a big difference for sure :)

[@assyriansomar9592]

Where to find in Norway David?

[@DavidHeathHomebrew]

I am not seeing any in Norway now sadly. You could import directly 🍻🍻🍻

[@packattack2893]

Mr. Heath; i have a Grainfather and always brew 5gals. which Jaded immersion chiller will suffice?

[@DavidHeathHomebrew]

Yes, more than enough 🍻🍻

[@packattack2893]

is using a copper or stainless steel immersion chiller toxic?

[@DavidHeathHomebrew]

No. If that was the case then they would not be suitable for sale.

[@packattack2893]

👍🏻

[@DavidHeathHomebrew]

🍻🍻🍻

[@Duci1989]

At 8:40 you mention a cleaning cycle for your system. Do you have any information about that cycle? Sounds interesting, as I dislike the cleaning time it takes for my easybrew

[@DavidHeathHomebrew]

Hi and sure. This is a cycle with the following stages 1) Cleaner (PBW or similar) 2) Water 3) Sanitise, if needed.

[@espen000]

Which one would fit best with the new Grainfather G40? Hydra or Scylla?

[@DavidHeathHomebrew]

I only have the Scylla, I cannot advise on hydra.

[@mickholgate3347]

Hi David. How do these compare to plate chillers mate?

[@DavidHeathHomebrew]

I dislike plate chillers personally. They are usually a bugger to clean. So I recommend immersion or CFC but preferably have both.

[@jafarym77]

Will this fit brewzilla 65L?

[@DavidHeathHomebrew]

Yes, it sure does.

[@forlifeyoda]

I was a little confused on you water pressure on the counter flow chiller. I upped my water pressure on my Exchillerator and it cooled 10 gallons to pitching temp in 9 minutes with 60 degree ground water. The lower water pressure hurt the performance of my counter flow chiller. I would love to know why more pressure can damage a counter flow chiller.

[@DavidHeathHomebrew]

When I say damage, I literally mean it can burst. Some countries have high water pressure, some do not. Here in Norway we certainly have it. If you go full blast you will destroy it.

[@Scootenfruity]

Hey David! Do you know about any updates of JaDeD coming to europe? I sold my GF and I would need a bigger immersion chiller.

[@DavidHeathHomebrew]

These have been hit by supply chain issues. I cannot speak for the rest of Europe but there are small numbers of them in Norway and Sweden now.

[@A2an]

What about cleaning ? Thanks David for your video 👍

[@DavidHeathHomebrew]

Thanks Allan. I covered cleaning in the video near the end. I showed me hosing it down and then mentioned that I add it into the brewing system during the cleaning phase. It probably adds two minutes to your process.

[@A2an]

​@@DavidHeathHomebrew yeah I formulated that question really badly, sorry. Here we go again. Is it really enough, with only water. My G30 cooler I use PBW solution and subsequently i clean with water, anyway our water have a nearly nonexistent kimtal number so it is safe to use, I guess it's the same in Norway. Don't get me wrong, I adore your videos it's almost like religion 🙏

[@DavidHeathHomebrew]

Thanks Allan. Yes, I have found this to work just fine :)

[@alastairmcgregor579]

Hi David so compared to a plate chiller -better or worse?

[@DavidHeathHomebrew]

The issue with plate chillers is the pain of cleaning them. I am done with them myself personally.

[@doertedev]

Hi David. Do you have a link where you sourced the gardena adapters for the chiller? I am having a hard time finding something for these "garden hose adapters" to gardena in germany.

[@DavidHeathHomebrew]

Like this? :- www.jernia.no/hjem-og-hage/hage-og-uterom/vanningsutstyr/vanningsutstyr-øvrig/gardena-adapter-8187-innendørskran/p/42804755

[@doertedev]

@@DavidHeathHomebrew yes except that neither m24 nor m22 would fit for me. I happen to have exact this adapter here. Got the hydra not the scylla though.

[@DavidHeathHomebrew]

Worth talking with Gardena I would say. They should be able to advise you.

[@KiboTennis]

Just use a small piece of hose, so you don’t have to attach the Gardena directly to the chiller. Use a hose clamp on the chiller side and regular Gardena on the other.

[@doertedev]

@@KiboTennis I would if I could source a garden hose adapter to attach to the chiller directly. Seems unobtainium. Will talk to gardena then. Thanks a lot.

[@Duo_Seraphim]

Do you think this would be a viable solution for a typically larger batch size using the Brewtools B150 Pro?

[@DavidHeathHomebrew]

I have to be honest and say I am not sure. I believe that something larger from Jaded would be better though speed wise. They have a big selection.

[@eliten0Ob]

No. The downsides to immersion chillers is going to magnify by a lot when dealing with larger batch sizes. As your wort cools down, your temperature differential is getting smaller, and the efficiency of cooling drops. You consume a TON of water cooling your wort down this way. In addition, the size of the cooler also need to increase to increate the rate of removal, which in turn makes the unit that much heavier. I honestly strongly advice using immersion chillers for anything above 50L.

[@DavidHeathHomebrew]

Yeah, you will want one suited to the volume, otherwise it's a bad idea

[@zzing]

I presently use a plate chiller, and it definitely works a lot faster than the stainless steel that came with the robobrew - but cleaning can be a challenge.

[@DavidHeathHomebrew]

Yes, I would not go back to plate chilling personally for the cleaning side

[@zzing]

@@DavidHeathHomebrew it’s the cost a good replacement that I think holds me to it.

[@DavidHeathHomebrew]

Yes, these toys are certainly adding up in cost :)

[@PsychoCharlieCat]

I use the NorCal Brewing whirlpool paddle with my Hydra. It's small enough to fit in the middle. I put it into the boil same time as the immersion chiller for easy sanitizing. My wort drops fast and hard, I get the absolute clearest wort possible. I'll have to post a pic to the Facebook page sometime.

[@DavidHeathHomebrew]

Thanks Timothy, that does sound like a great way. I suspect that my GF paddle will work the same.

[@SpyderSavino]

Timothy, I like the idea of the whirlpool paddle. Since NorCal has a slew of them, which one did you select? I wanted to make sure there's enough room not to bang on the insides of the scylla. Thanks.

[@djuanesg2756]

Hi David!!!! Congrats great channel!!!! Do you know when it will be available in european homebrews suppliers ? (and wich ones?). I'm from Barcelona. Cheers!!!!

[@DavidHeathHomebrew]

Cheers. Sadly there has been some supply chain issues so it has slowed things down. I am.unsure about Spanish suppliers.

[@agunslinger9349]

Any idea what brand that utility pump is that he is using?

[@DavidHeathHomebrew]

Sorry I must have missed this. I am not sure but brand matters less than spec.

[@Wuloozzs]

Can you give any european suppliers who sell these?

[@DavidHeathHomebrew]

Not yet but it is coming soon :)

[@Wuloozzs]

@@DavidHeathHomebrew What is soon? :) I want to get rid of my plate chiller, but not sure if wait Jaded or buy cheaper bulk chiller...

[@DavidHeathHomebrew]

I can only really say soon because there are many potential retailers involved with different order schedules subject to availability of stock at Jaded.

[@user-mr9tw6dj6h]

emersion chiller will always be in my future list. im currently doing BIAB in my kitchen which i also used to cook and my pot size planned is getting bigger and bigger. i will no longer be able to carry the pot and it into a sink or a bucket like what im doing now with a 14L pot. im currently using too much water in brewing, washing, sanitising, chilling. it is a waste. need to be sustainable. what i have in mind is to retrofit a close loop system from a water dispenser or a 2000btu air conditioner. retain the compressor, cap tube, condensing coil, then replace the evaporator with a coil similar to this kind of chiller. the coil is to use internal finned tubes to increase efficiency and reduce coil length. i reckon that the water dispenser's system will over work if i cool down 30-40L from boiling temp, but the AC system might be too heavy for me to carry around and store. concept is still concept, need to find something in between. how much water is used to cool down a 19L batch and what is your inlet water temp david? my water is about 25-28 degC irregardless of morning or night

[@DavidHeathHomebrew]

Sorry but for some reason KZbin saw your post as spam and hide it from me, hence the late reply. I think an AC unit is going to struggle with this.

[@user-mr9tw6dj6h]

@@DavidHeathHomebrew the cooling rate of a 1HP AC is definitely not a problem. the problem is the size and weight. at this moment i dont have a dedicated brew area hence i cant do a jig to lower the whole thing

[@DavidHeathHomebrew]

Ok, I see. Not really my area to be honest :)

[@Scootenfruity]

I neeeeed this thing!!!

[@DavidHeathHomebrew]

I sure do recommend it :)

[@Scootenfruity]

@@DavidHeathHomebrew I hope it gets to european sellers one way or another. As you say in the video, it gets extremely expensive with all the added costs

[@DavidHeathHomebrew]

Its coming :)

[@wollewolfram]

Im using a whirlpool paddle with a screwdriver in center of a standard stainless steel cooler. My cooling times are stupid fast, I would not be surpised if its similar as this cooler. Im gonna measure it and report. Thing is, if the temperature of water exiting the cooler is similar to the wort temperature, maximum cooling is achieved for that waterflow rate. More coils will not help then, only increase waterflow will improvere the cooling. I highly recommend testing this, you get some wort aereation and sedimentation as a bonus.

[@DavidHeathHomebrew]

Great, do let me know :)

[@wollewolfram]

@@DavidHeathHomebrew I tested it today brewing your Irish Red Ale. I had 30 liter of wort, and my tap water is 11 deg C. I run the paddle at a speed which gives a strong vortex, but not too fast since it will foam alot. I started at 100 deg C, after 3.5 min = 40 C, 5 min = 30 C, 7 min = 20 C. I have not tested without the paddle - it just takes too long.

[@DavidHeathHomebrew]

That is a nice result :)

[@wollewolfram]

@@DavidHeathHomebrew Thanks. Yes temperature drops really fast, it does require a whirlpoolpaddle and a screwdriver however.

[@DavidHeathHomebrew]

Great :)

[@acdmonteiro]

I have the Scylla in my shopping cart for the last 2 weeks....it's a pain to pay almost 100 Euros for shipping. If it was half the cost of shipping...i'd have one already.

[@DavidHeathHomebrew]

Yes, understood. Great chiller though.

[@donniemunden3283]

I bought one about 3 brews ago - I love it and will never use another.

[@DavidHeathHomebrew]

Yes, they certainly do have that effect!