Jag-Stang Whammy Madness II

[@mrblondecpa]

Amazing

[@EJ-ci6gp]

I know this is a little late, but god damn this was cool to watch

[@JimmyGallowayGuitar]

man- what springs did you use? I see the Cigar is slammed way down. This is great showcase of how to keep these f&!^@# things in tune

[@creepingnet]

The original Japanese ones. One finally broke at a gig with 15+ years of hard use on it. Currently it has another set of the same and a 66 Mustang tailplate as an experiment. Right now Im trying to learn the geometry of this system at a science level.....I have some crazy ideas.

[@JimmyGallowayGuitar]

@creepingnet you would make good money re-engineering it. There are no aftermarket mods. Mastery / Staytrem have tweaked the JM design so you could tweak this Dynamic tremolo design. I see you totally have the cigar all the way back. Mine won't float, and the springs won't zero out. Super frustrating

[@graceshepherd8011]

dude you rip!

[@utubeThatOneBand]

how do u make it float?

[@TANGOju1c3]

how does it stay in tune

[@creepingnet]

By the way I set it up. - #2 pencil lead in the nut, nut is totally clean, strings slide through easily - lubricated pivot points on tremolo, at that time I was using gun slide grease or vaseline, these days I use auto brake silicone lubricant - Bridge posts are jammed with 3m Scotch tape - very very tiny piece. The adhesive+plastic works great to gum up the threads but not so much they remain unajustable - I use Ernie Ball Paradigm strings these days, at the time this was filmed I was using Fender Bullet .009-.042 gauge. - Tail Bar set to angle back about 30-45 degrees - Strings wrapped neatly around capstans, turns low to high = 3, 3, 4, 7, full string, full string - I don't tie or bend them, I use split shaft tuners - strings properly stretched along their length, then a lot of bar dives to get them to "equalibrium" in stretched out and the range of the mustang vibrato to keep them in tune. I now own two guitars with these trems, this one (95 Jag-Stang with EMGs) and a heavily modified 1971 Fender Music Master setup like a Cobain Mustang with different pickups.

[@TANGOju1c3]

awesome thanks 👍

[@wasouthpnt]

Mike, I need to talk to you with an offer. Please let me know how to contact you.

[@dodgebee440]

ahhh man i hated my js's trem so much i locked it to the tremplate so it stays in tune and its ways easier to change strings now

[@Zwikster]

handles those dive bombs like a floyd rose, but looks much nicer!

[@JabunAudio]

Incredible playing man! I was really wondering how far a Mustang whammy can go, and I got my answer and more! Really wish I had my flanger pedal with me now too! Keep up the great work!

[@bluwng]

So is this a Mustang Vibrato?

[@jensk4140]

Yes ​@@bluwng

[@bigpencap]

any advice on setting up my jag stang it wont stay in tune if you use the whammy bar once its out of tune I just bought it, help! you seem to be the man!!

[@mcblahflooper94]

An absolute madman

[@liamcurry2859]

he sounds like kurt cobain in this

[@АрсенСарыев-ц7ф]

hi, how can I make this tremolo work up and not just down? I bought a Squier Fender Classic Vibe Mustang for a girl, I don’t understand how to do the same. I collect the same mustang for myself, but with a dynamic vibrato fender

[@jensk4140]

Great job! Jag stangs doubled in value over the past ten years. I just bought a first run Sonic blue, can't wait to get it.

[@NHail]

could you explain how to achieve the 60 degree angle pivot?

[@aliens_exist_23]

As usual Mike, superb stuff. Its kinda wierd cuz i did the exact same thing with my J-S before i even saw this vid or found out you did it also! Btw was that Poundcake by Van Halen @7:15 or was it made up?

[@jsolis_ag]

i really like your videos

[@donstanley9943]

I'm surprised this trem wasn't more successful for fender. Seems capable of doing same thing 6 screw type but more stable tuning wise.

[@creepingnet]

@captinclutch1987 Nope, just a set of TonePros Kluson with the sealed-gear style mounts as I had Schaller non-locking sealed gear tuners on it for a few years after the originals wore out.

[@creepingnet]

@captinclutch1987 Yes, it's me. Have not been posting much lately as I've been really really busy with life stuffs.

[@creepingnet]

@captinclutch1987 Yeah though earlier this year I rebuilt the whole vibrato unit and gave it an overhaul as this guitar has been doing double duty in 2 rock bands plus a lot of time at open jam night at Hayley's and Flight's bars lately. The bar still floats, I just got done doing about 4-5 sets tonight with a bunch of local musicians at open jam. And no probs with the questions I could talk about this guitar all day.

[@creepingnet]

thankx I wish I could put more than 10 minutes up here sometimes, I sometimes go on 30-40 minute tangents of guitar and have to listen through it and pick the "Best stuff" to post because I can't post the rest.

[@creepingnet]

@captinclutch1987 Pinch harmonics are pretty easy on most guitars for me. Bought the guitar modified with the EMG's but I added the Pi2 Phase inverter to the neck position switch and turned the bridge position switch into a pickup selector. Also put in a no-load tone control and a treble bypass on the volume, I can emulate a lot of guitars on this one, that's why it's my main.

[@giggs102]

i have..an old old mustang...why does the bar keep falling off?...idk..what to do..cuz it was my dads..and i found it in my garage :p

[@kakugarixx]

Floydrose vs fender whammy

[@creepingnet]

@NathanStang75 Yep, that's poundcake.

[@creepingnet]

EMG Pickups

[@Dunhill98]

Very nice cruchy tones!...

[@bgm9517]

do you remeber what gauge strings you used on the trem?

[@creepingnet]

Back then I used Fender Bullet .009-.040 stainless or .009-.042 gauge nickel. These days I'm still playing the same guitar, but I'm using Ernie Ball Paradigm .009-.042 gauge strings since Fender discontinued the bullet end strings and The Paradigms are even more sturdy.

[@bluwng]

This seems like a superior designed vibrato than the Statocasters. It's a shame I never really knew about it. BTW very impressive.

[@creepingnet]

Thanks, the Mustang/Jag-Stang vibrato (Fender Dynamic Vibrato is the actual model) Is my favorite one to use. I

[@bluwng]

@@creepingnetis this different than a Mustang vibrato and are the interchangeable?

[@creepingnet]

@@bluwng Same unit. Fender used to use a lot of "marketing names" for their features. The Mustang vibrato was known as the "Dynamic Fender Vibrato" originally, stamped on the plate. People have probably forgotten since the newer Squier Mustangs don't have the name stamped on it, and a lot of the new Mustangs dont have a vibrato (which to me makes them Duo Sonics but the guidelines are prob different now).

[@5urg3x]

Jesus that is so high off the body how is that even useable!?

[@creepingnet]

In my case, I have large hands...one can get around that by putting the bar in a vice and carefully bending it over. That's how the original trem bar my Jag-Stang had was configured by me. More recently I've gone to less spring tension because I'm using a modified tremolo plate (60 degree knife edge). One thing I found odd with the modern Mustang vibratio units, is that the holes for the tailbar pivot screws are not far enough forward, and that removes some range, and they are not beveled so that's where the tuning issues come from. Maybe I'll make a new video in the future on it when I install a Mustang tremolo on something else or buy a VM Mustang or something. If you move them forward and vice-grip the bar down a bit, you get a feel and range similar to a Kahler flatmount without all the cam/locking mumbo jumbo and need to use a hex-wrench to tune down.

[@5urg3x]

It's pretty cool that you can make it flutter now though. I'd love to try one of these...I've never played a Mustang or a Jag Stang...I think I'd probably like the Talman series better though. That would be a sick idea for a guitar...A custom Talman that is JagStang like, maybe with a Synchronizr tremolo or something.

[@shackleton1]

Asume, Pickups?

[@Darkaxelgaming-tt7ip]

Emg's.

[@jimgordon1939]

overdubbing

[@creepingnet]

Nope, it's called "Early KZbin video made on a Pentium III running Windows 2000 and using shovelware from free software sites"

[@jimgordon1939]

@@creepingnet I have a Fender mustang mij and I cannot do that. It´s impossible. Did you make some improvement on your guitar? Thanks!

[@rensdevos]

try locking tuners!! I did it to. works perfect!

[@5urg3x]

Filmed with a potato

[@creepingnet]

C'mon man, this was filmed in 2009, gimmie a break. This was before a 4 megapixel smartphone was even a thing. I was using a $45.00 Logitech webcam from Fred Meyer here.

[@5urg3x]

LOL :P I am just being a troublemaker. I prob have some super old vids myself that look even worse.