Jagex I'm worried and you should be too..

[@LinksOcarina]

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[@lordmon555]

From a guy who goofed around on some private servers back in the day, I remember goofing around on a couple different private servers but me and my friends alway came back to the main game. The main motivation for me was playing with members stuff since I couldn't back then, as I was but a small human with no credit card. I think any private server that has any sort of longevity would have to be a very different way to play like prop hunt or maybe your bossing account you mentioned but even then those people aren't going to stop playing normal runescape.

[@MrButterz48]

I've recently started playing a private server that has been up for over 10 years and still has a loyal fan base and lots of money dropped in it by that fan base im talking about 20k+ a month every weekend the owner does livestreams and giveaways its actually pretty interesting.

[@lordmon555]

@MrButterz48 thats pretty cool actually didnt know they were still so lively but id be interested to know if people on that server are mostly playing on the private server or if they're just like bouncing inbewteen normal runescape and the private server

[@MrButterz48]

@lordmon555 most of them bounce between rocket league and league of legends they have a discord channel and people will go on there amd stream the other games

[@manuelmenendez8239]

You've seen how many people play custom Minecraft and Roblox servers, right? Doesn't detract from the main game, it brings new people into it

[@Nick-ij5nt]

I could see a possible scenario where eventually the boosted xp servers overshadow the main game. The playerbase is only getting older, a few of my friends want to play OSRS but they have jobs and kids, so they don't really have time to invest 3k hours just to get to the good content.

[@manuelmenendez8239]

@Nick-ij5nt if so many people that don't like grinding play the game then, Jagex would get more members subbed with those servers around. Which would also make the game live longer

[@7threign780]

@@Nick-ij5nt good content is relative

[@greenbean4422]

This is a terrible analogy What is "the main game" for minecraft? For roblox? These aren't MMOS and there is no central server

[@Nick-ij5nt]

@@manuelmenendez8239 I agree, OSRS isn't gonna die. My point is that private servers might chance the way that people think OSRS is supposed to be played.

[@nerdy_crawfish]

To me the biggest advantage of the community servers is that they can be catered to specific types of players in ways Jagex can’t on the main game without making it less fun for other kinds of players. For example someone could make a skilling focused server with changes like removing standard resource drops from enemies, rebalancing skills like smithing so you could make level appropriate armor yourself, add higher level gear that could be crafted, etc. without upsetting players who would rather get higher level gear from boss drops in the main game.

[@Equitine]

Definitely has a bright future. Osrs private servers are a pretty big community. And being able to fine a server that fits what you wanna do alot easier without needing to create a new character just a seperate profile like leauges is now is a pretty win. There is also the aspect of community interaction with content creators being able to easier host tournaments limited series/modes or something like the guilanor games. And i dont think i have to stress this but the community will always beable to pump more content then the studio can which means content fiends will be satiated while waiting for releases. Main game will still have its place for sure but that "oah i dont need to create a different character can just hop in this world on a different profile to try/test some things" is a massive appeal and draw.

[@KetchumAllCollectibles]

Can't wait for the thenwefight worlds

[@LinksOcarina]

New style I've never done before of video and it took ages! Would love to hear some feedback and also keep the project zanaris debate going!

[@Tonitzki]

Pro tip: Go do all of Wilderness content you have been postponing when the servers go online. Might just be the calmest few days to do so 😉

[@greenbean4422]

Best when Deadman is running

[@jasonolson7966]

That's what the pkers will be thinking too lol

[@extremefails1862]

Dude i love the idea, I just dont have the time to keep up with late game content anymore and as someone who has played over different accounts for literally 20 years, i think i deserve to be able to try it out.

[@theblackhawkmechanic]

Teenage Ninja Mutant Turtles @2:32 .... unsubbed

[@FACTSWITHANTHONYJAMES]

Yeah that was wild. I had to rewind it to make sure he messed the name up.

[@IAmTheGoblin]

Pce

[@WhittaII]

TMNT isn't that incredible lmao it's not like it was a quintessential childhood show like Spongebob was it?

[@FACTSWITHANTHONYJAMES]

@@WhittaII it was the biggest show at the time

[@99autism]

I don’t understand?

[@ignorance112]

I think the main game will be fine thanks to the reasons Jagex has mentioned before like delaying updates for private servers, but also because I don't see people being as attached to their characters/progression on these private servers as they would be on the main game. Sure people will play on fun and novel community servers and even grind on them for a long time, but I am pretty sure that for most players there will be an understanding that "this will not be around forever" ofc the main OSRS game itself will not be around forever either, but hopefully the day when the game itself actually shuts down is many many years away. Though with these community servers unless they are ran by a well known and dedicated person who you can trust not to mess with things, there will always be a sense of "this is ran by some random who could shut it down at any point" whether that is because they lost interest, lack the time/resources to keep things running etc. So in short I think most people will of course have fun with community servers and try them out, but will see them as "temporary" or something they can't knowingly put down and be able to guaranteed come back to as the server might not exist anymore or be wholly different and revamped as nothing is stopping the server owner from turning it into something else. Another thing which will probably make players not as attached/invested in these community servers is that for the most part I would assume notable achievements and unlocks in these servers will not be as "coveted" or as "rewarding" since they are easier to get creating a lesser feeling of investment/attachment, for example killing Zuk and getting your Infernal Cape on the main game will probably make you care a lot more about your character, but having for example the inferno auto completed will make you care less about it and just take it for granted. Though as a counter point to this I know there will of course be some (rare) cases where a community made boss/quest/activity will be much more difficult than anything on the main game and as such you could argue someone gets more attached to that server/gamemode because of this, but I would also argue that even though this can of course happen it will occur on such a small scale that the "player loss" this would cause on the main game would be literally unnoticeable since the amount of HLC people who already do crazy challenges like low gear/stat infernos or whatever are such a small subsection that they do not reflect a large amount of the community, like we will not be losing thousands of players from the main game to the community server cause everyone is over there wanting to fight "Giga-Zuk" or whatever. Summarizing this bit I'd say that even if players are not worried about the server they are playing on changing or shutting down, they will still not be as attached as they are to the main game as the achievements on community servers will usually mean less than on the main game, though as I outlined there can be exceptions to this, but those are rare cases which should not affect the main game to any great extent. Thirdly I think that most, not all, but most players will relatively quickly (at least in OSRS terms) return to the main game after playing on a community since there is a good chance (not guaranteed at all and there will of course be exceptions to this) from my prior experience with community servers in other games that a good chunk of servers either shut down or become dead server where maybe at most 1 or 2 people play at time. Now for OSRS as a very "solo-able" game this is not as big of an issues as for other multiplayer games where other players are essential (think cs 1.6 server back in the day). So what I predict is that there will be a cycle where players will jump onto community servers for a bit and play while they last then return to the main game until eventually they get the itch again and find a community server to be on for a while, this can be thought of similarly how players, and as a more public example streamers, might play on their main/"main-iron" go do a GIM and then return to the main after a while. Though this is not universal and as I said I expect this out of most, not all players, there of course will be people who will find a gamemode or type of server that can only exist as a community server and only want to play that and will rarely if ever return to the main game, but this is once again a much rarer occurrence in my mind. An example of this from another game would be players in Counterstrike who only play the Surf gamemode and never/rarely touch the main competitive ladder, but as can be seen in that game as well these players are always a subsection of the player base. In short my opinion is that most players will dabble for a while in a community server (for week/months) and then return to the main game for longer periods until eventually jumping into a community server again once they get an "itch" for it, while the amount of players who will exclusively play community servers and not the main game is quite small as that would occur with gamemodes or gaming experiences which by necessity can only be found on these servers. Now this is where I must stress that all of the above has been exclusively about players who CURRENTLY PLAY OSRS and who might think about switching over to community servers whether temporarily or permanently. So far I have not be writing in regards to new players, but my thoughts on this can be expressed in a hopefully shorter fashion. Community servers will attract new players, this is a positive for the game. If a new player plays on a community server and becomes a fan of the game and jumps onto the main game and eventually plays like an established player then its all good and the community servers have done an outstanding job in terms of getting more players on board. If a new player plays on a community server and decides that specific server or others like it are the only thing they enjoy about the game and that the main game is not for them and they would not enjoy playing on the main game, then that is also still good for the game as whole, since we would never have "naturally" gained them as a player on the main game, but they are still paying for a membership and POSSIBLY engaging with social media such as reddit, twitter, discord etc making the game as a whole more popular, basically becoming "free marketing" the same way that players for games through word of mouth have always been "free marketing". If this happens often enough or on a large enough scale then we will just have a separate player base who only play community servers that have never touched the main game because they never wanted to and never would have, but similar to RS3 they are still keeping Jagex as a company profitable and helping to keep the main OSRS alive by paying into the system without ever touching the main OSRS game. The very last thing I want to note is that if somehow community servers, despite the argumentation presented above, are harmful and very detrimental to the success of the main game Jagex are not in any way obligated to keep them running (maybe at most keeping them running until current subscriptions have ran out while stopping new ones for legal reasons) and can shut them down either for a very long time until they figure out how to overhaul them (like partner slayer lol) or forever if there is indeed no way to fix them, no sane company would let an unproven side product kill their demonstrably profitable main product, of course exceptions to this can be found in different industries where companies pivoted hard and then failed, but with how vocal and active the player base or more cynically the "consumer base" of OSRS is this is infinitely less likely to happen to OSRS since the players have many times in the past driven Jagex away from "ruining the game" so to say. So overall I think we are not really going to "lose" that many current players to the community servers, the community servers will attract new players and quite a few of them will probably even make it onto the main game and those who don't are still a boon or a benefit for the main game by helping to keep Jagex profitable. Overall seems like a positive update to me that will not "kill the game" and I have not really even touched on all the positives from this update for content creation from very talented people like Settled, Soup, J1mmy etc etc.

[@mckgamer8713]

Leagues doesn't end osrs once it ends, so i doubt the new servers will. I think it will bring in more people.

[@itscodester6462]

leagues also isnt a perm server

[@ToRlrk]

the niche and success behind osrs is that it has long term goals and progress and not that you can do whatever and have nothing to do, nothing is handed to you immediately. the gamemode will not be a success for the osrs playerbase, except for the niche part of community that is either 1) content creator, or 2) experimenting for fun but going back to main game soon after. unless they are able to invite in a large chunk of new players, this content will be more or less dead after few weeks to months.

[@cpez47]

I think you are vastly underestimating the amount of the player base under ~1500 total level that only has a few hours to play a day / week. I could definitely see a server with boosted xp, and maybe quest skipping, to be a massive success with them. It would let so many people experience end game content with a fraction of the time investment, why would these kind of players want to go back?

[@TruthBL]

Like the change in video style man, works!

[@fredhampton3393]

Good job man 🎉

[@niruh__2595]

SO as a newish player the big appeal of OSRS is knowing itll be there if i quit and pick it up again a few year later. The game does such a good job with keeping items relevant and im worried private servers are going to promote that power creep / break the players up into more niche game modes. Never seems like a good idea.

[@Jmmz12]

It gives you a platform to try items out and then work towards them in the real game. Without spending millions on items that may not work. And for someone with limited funds its a great idea.

[@giocommentary]

@@Jmmz12 thats a bad way to go about it, and why would you ever return to your normal account now that you have the item? didn't that just remove the progress of grinding towards that item??? and with it the satisfaction of actually attaining it. you don't have to ''try'' out anything in OSRS its all documented, from tickrate to max hits.

[@Jmmz12]

@giocommentary i think this will appeal more to the casual player, and people such as myself who just don't have time to play anymore. I think alot of the main player base will feel the same as you and might try it out but ultimately go back to the main game.

[@underlinedanddefine1]

@@giocommentaryI played private servers back in 07 like froogooscape, it was exactly what was explained here, you have all these resources at your fingertips but that made it boring. I always came back to the main game trying to earn all the things I could test out on the private servers.

[@venrakdrake]

I had heard about Project Zanaris for a minute but didn't know what it was. This kind of community based modding is exactly what has kept a game like TF2 alive for 20 years (minus the bots)

[@MylesC1234]

This will be great for someone to practice bossing without using up actual resources

[@freshairkaboom8171]

Imagine community servers with built-in support for tileman mode (like preventing you from stepping on new squares by accident) or chunkman mode. That's a dream come true. Not only that, but servers where you can skip tutorial island and reset your account whenever you want for speedrunning.

[@jonsnow1324]

Or a Deadman Tileman mode where you can PK someone's Tiles

[@baronzeegmot3801]

To be honest, I'm almost certain Project Zanaris is Jagex's attempt at introducing more ways of mtx without adding it into the main game (OSRS). Not only would you need to rent the servers, but I expect it to be filled to the brim with mtx, paywalled content and probably other monthly costs just to run the servers as well. My point here is, the private servers WILL also have p2w mechanics or be filled with ads or something, I mean, I doubt anybody is going to be running these servers for free, especially if they have additional costs they have to pay to Jagex. This might draw in additional players and especially the ones that play private servers, but it's not going to kill OSRS. Most people will still prefer to play the main game, instead of a private, player run server that likely ALSO has costs to play.

[@ToRlrk]

You are slightly overreacting. It will likely be unpopular to play this gamemode, 99%+ people will go back to regular servers a week after release. the project zanaris will be very niche and more targeted towards content creators like you, not regular players.

[@michaelshaw1868]

You sure? Look at how many players spend months on leagues. This is essentially the same thing

[@Morikali]

i'd disagree, quite a few players don't have the time to grind for late & endgame game content & gear so servers that open up this sort of content would really open up the game for them.

[@soullegend5]

Lol your dumb

[@ToRlrk]

@Morikali There will be people for sure, just it will be such a small amount to even reason the need for dev effort. It will be crowded for the first weeks, then pretty much be a niche for creators. It's not minecraft/roblox and the target audience is completely different. Osrs playerbase is not it and we wil see it quick enough. Its great for link/rargh tho, for good content

[@Morikali]

@ToRlrk very true. Probably mainly content creators, groups of friends & some niche communities.

[@shaneroberts9702]

Super excited for project Zanaris!

[@sammole1900]

As a man with 2 small children one beind disabled and working 2 jobs I have absolutely no time to grind OSRS I had a lot of fun with current leagues content as it doesn't require me to drop hours of gameplay for some Woodcutting levels, I'm all for project zanaris I absolutely love Runescape always have been coming back for well over 20 years now. I can't wait for project zanaris

[@qwerty10219]

Love that intro.

[@joeflax724]

Osrs was it’s own Project Zanaris server from RS3 and look at where the main game is at now! The main game will always be the OG, the pinnacle, the nostalgia. I’m excited to see what will happen and what new worlds will be made with Project Zanaris

[@acat6182]

I played RS2 from 2004 until EOC, and I have no nostalgia for RS3, it's practically unrecognizable. OSRS does invoke nostalgia because it feels like the spirit of RS2 is still there. I miss my old stats and items though.

[@cadehileman7640]

Hell just a 5 times xp server would be kinda nice ngl

[@zacknair6202]

They said we’d be able to play main game and zanaris simultaneously on the same account

[@guintar6661]

Personally I don't even see myself using the private servers. Seems like it's more geared towards content creators. That being said, I know people are going to do some super creative stuff and I'm excited to see what you and others come up with!

[@knuckalar]

I used to play rs from around 04-09.I watch most of yours, rarghs and settleds content and constantly think im going to get back into it but I don’t have the motivation to get to 20 fishing these days let alone end game content so these servers would be perfect for someone like me

[@Kw1zard]

Private servers would kill the main game. In my opinion, the game isn't popular enough to have a healthy population in both.

[@LinksOcarina]

Do you think it can have a healthy custom server count? Because in reality it probably makes jagex more money than main game

[@Kw1zard]

@LinksOcarina I think custom game servers could be healthy but it will divide the player base. Everyone starts the main game the same, same chances of getting drops etc. If everyone plays different servers with different xp rates, drops etc it changes the DNA of the game

[@Jmmz12]

I disagree, I think these custom servers will bring on its own player base.

[@TWillBeer]

@@Kw1zardthe same thousands of hours to participate in new activities. It’s not sustainable. Leagues helps, but it’s not the solution.

[@toko5445]

Private servers have been a thing forever now. It’s never killed off the main game. Jagex finally went after all the private servers to shut them down, now Zanaris goes live bringing all the private servers users back to Jagex.

[@ishmari14]

Budget well spent. The only regret you should have is not buying two.

[@tylern2394]

I do believe you're absolutely right.. new and even returning players expect a certain amount of dopamine. Majority of the time it isn't met unless you're playing on a private server. Hopefully Jagex capitalize on the idea.

[@Austin-f7s]

I remember the RuneScape spinoffs back in the day. I loved getting 99s in a few hits and getting crazy items from random monsters. Could definitely see a server like that being fun

[@Aeon_ic]

I think the main thing that splitting of the player base regardless of how often they have them come back is the GE economy. The item flows will be impacted if some of the more "hardcore" grinders leave for these other modes, so prices will go up due to limiting of supply. Overall though, I don't think it's the end of the world if the player count on OSRS dips. I'm an RS3 main, and our regular player count hovers around 100k and we're doing just fine. The one downside of the lower player count is seeing less people throughout the world though. I personally treat Runescape as more of a singleplayer-ish MMO anyways so it doesn't impact me, but I could see people having issues with it.

[@Abysslz]

I don’t blame anyone for being concerned but there has been things like this since basically day one, private servers and osrs is still running good

[@Megadeez1]

I genuinely enjoyed this video. Felt very real, informative, and made me hype up a little!

[@LinksOcarina]

Thanks man! Really glad to hear it :)

[@cmdrmeldoc59]

You do very well with scripted content, Link! If you have ideas for videos of a similar style, I say go for it, because you’ve done well with this one, and your input and commentary is very appreciated!

[@Jmmz12]

I love how you have explained negative aspects aswell as positive ones. I trust that alot of thought has gone into this idea and as someone who doesn't have alot of time to grind, this sounds awesome. I would love to experience late game runescape without having to quit my job to have enough time to play.

[@GreyBeard1992]

As a player since middle school all way back in 04 days when rs2 just came out love the 4 game was always there for the simplicity and pure fun of the game but I no longer feel that’s every update feeling more and more like rs3 and I absolutely didn’t want sailing snd now project zanaris, sad to say my last membership for osrs has been bought u can find me on brighter shores with the OG Andrew from now on. Happy gaming!

[@casinoscatter]

When new League pvp challenge?

[@OSRSAPC]

Hey Link, loved the video first of all, I will say as someone in the PVP Scene in OSRS, I am worried that this will kill the PVP scene in the main game, the PVP scene is a huge sink for items, gp, supplies etc...... This can be sort of like a domino effect, but I do hope I am wrong!

[@yoraydude]

Love you link. the first moment i heard about Project Zanaris I nearly blew my lid I was so god damn excited and I frankly still am. All of your concerns are valid and I was a bit worried but After nearly 12 years of OSRS I think Im safe to say jagex is trustable enough in terms of this. Maybe there will be issues (Most likely damn you jamflex) But god If they wont fix things fast because this is wayyyy too important. I've played countless OSRSPS in my time and nothing ever beats the actual game its smooth, its nostalgic, its been a massive part of my life. This is super exciting. 10000/10

[@camerongraham5542]

Seems people aren’t aware there are already private servers all with their own unique things. It’s exactly the same as this. The game will be 100% ok.

[@rustyshackleford3636]

"exactly the same" You've never played a private server in your life. Private servers run on outdated builds of the game, are full of MTX as a necessity to keep servers running and half of them come with a keylogger/RAT. Even among the community that plays private servers, the overwhelming majority will stick to the top 1-2 servers because the population of the remainder is just too low to bother with.

[@camerongraham5542]

@ like I said game will be fine lol. Private servers exist already there is no difference. Rather people play 100 or just the top 1-2 who cares that’s irrelevant to what I said. Realistically everything you said has no validity to what I said.

[@ArmourGX]

I feel like the percentage of people who'd like to skip the early game and all the grinds that come with it are in the minority for sure. OSRS is insanely grindy and yet it's still super popular. That's because you feel like you've actually worked for and earned your achievements. Competing for hiscores for example is really rewarding because you know how much time and effort it takes to be competitive. Completing a collection log requires dedication. Just general stuff like that, it's all about the journey not just "I want to do end game bossing from day 1".

[@Andros215]

We make our own armies on a community server, then they fight. I'm not sure if this project is good or bad as my interest was never with it but I'm fine with others having fun if it can't interfere with mine. Given all the innovative ways to experience the game shown on video series the possibilities are limitless. Some ideas will probably be better than others but the beauty of it is the uncertainty of success and failure. This will put creativity to the test. If nothing there will be lots of content.

[@austincavalier1760]

As someone who only plays OSRS during leagues for the most part, I'm actually excited about PZ. The main reason I don't play OSRS is because of how long it takes to do everything. OSRS is already at an all time high player base. Private servers have existed for ages and people still play the main game. You can still play your main and run an alt on PZ. OSRS will be fine... as long as they keep eoc out of it.

[@protein8589]

As a private server player who played them to just get to end game quickly as I don’t have the time or desire to grind for a dead player base(pking mainly with non grindy pvm on the side). I look forward to the future of it. But I can see it potentially killing the main game. Some REALLY good devs out there… this will only enhance it

[@Si-hz5tw]

people will always play the main game, private servers will eventually water down to very specific events, e.g clan wars in wildy, or something where players dont have to prepare hours in the real game. then it means it might bring more people into it

[@Nick-ij5nt]

Ya, the only 2 things I'm gonna use these private servers for are 1. testing new boss strategies with max gear and unlimited supplies 2. getting my friends to play with me on boosted xp servers

[@aaronjames3987]

I will say part of the reason that they will not allow you to have access to new content quickly is so you can't set yourself up with superpowers and just cheese bosses to figure out mechanics.

[@blackhammer7429]

Rs classic private servers was sick hallowed and crip armour! This is going to be so goood man

[@jamiemac12580]

I think it will be like the good old days of Halo 3. I spent hundreds hours on the custom games, but still loved the base game. Id say people will play both

[@cole_p_warren]

Cool video 👍I personally don't love the Jimmy green screen style videos, it feels very Tik Tok.

[@TheRhedNova]

It's definitely going to be interesting how things pan out - my thoughts are that Jagex sort of wins no matter what happens, but I'm not convinced that PZ will kill the main game. It'll definitely reduce the population, but if OSRS has ever had one draw over other games, it's been the pride for doing things the hard way...I think that people will heavily favor community servers, but there'll be a prestige that comes from being accomplished on the main servers that community servers won't have. If anything, I think the community servers are better for Jagex's lifespan - instead of worrying about collapsing financially between major content upgrades, they have the community servers as life support. I don't know if that balance would last forever...but I think it'll last them longer than only running OSRS would.

[@Thorn42]

Im someone that doesnt have a whole lot of time to play OSRS, so a server that is leagues but with all areas unlocked would really be perfect for me.

[@TWillBeer]

Ive always wanted a single player balanced clone of OSRS where you don’t need to mindlessly grind for thousands of hours just to play the game. More people would play if the time commitment to play any part of it wasn’t the equivalent of giving up your first born child

[@DevoutOG]

I play for long term progression, Leagues 5 was my first league and after 10k points I burnt out and hopped back on main game. I'm not worried.

[@wrytte]

I'm hoping I can do something like a year around leagues, I can't spent a month during the holiday season playing, but would rather spread it out over a few months. That's what I'm excited for. I'll always grind the main game, but having the option to choose sounds amazing.

[@MrRuXperienced]

So you can in theory, re create where you left off exactly when they changed hp to constitution. Thia is pretty much what everyone wanted. 7 years ago

[@ladle7188]

Very well said link, very well said.

[@mewtwo239]

What if they where moderated?

[@LinksOcarina]

I think its hard to moderate when you can sell things outside of any jagex entities

[@fooff1]

Great video, thanks for creating a space for discussion. Personally, I have 0 interest in project zanaris. Ironman and leagues is plenty of content. It will be cool to use it to be able to test content I don’t want to sink resources into, but that’s about it for me.

[@618_racing]

I like this style of video. I think private servers could be cool but could also be a mess. Since you have to pay to host one as a creator, someone could just get tired of running a server and just let it go and then all of your progress is just lost overnight, same if they just wanted to kick someone for no reason since its their server they are paying to host. On the flip side they could be a blast as there are some super good creators out there on other games that could make a better server than jagex depending on how much they open it up on what they allow you to do.

[@alextrelka2131]

Temp server resets every 60 days?

[@dttears8911]

I'm in favor of this project 100% however I also agree with you.. they need to be very strategic with how they release this it could go south fast!

[@ohoto3896]

well done, you passed the clickbait test as well, raising some valid points. bonds are not going to go down any time soon, thats how I fund my membership from iron drops so we'll see I'm only interested in the main game, never play leagues/dmm and won't be playing this but now i have an idea of what to expect in how it might affect the main game. Frightening territory indeed. If this PZ sht will stop mtx from coming into osrs because of boosted profit, I am good with that.

[@Michael-yb2jh]

Leagues is fun, but i think most of us want the progress that is permanent in the main game

[@lbjake21]

meh i dont think its that deep as long as they are getting sub money, there are tons of us who didnt bother with leagues and wont bother with zanaris

[@Thelivecoach]

Even Zanaris private servers will always miss a true sense and meaning of accomplishment. The reason League does better than private servers is because it has links to the main game still and is time-limited. I think it will be great for very specific community events or training content but people will always prefer the game version that “counts” over a personal version in the long term. Even if you pull casual mates to your own server, you’ll want to go raiding in the main game with them at one point. And if they delay new content to the original version + count online players over all servers, it won’t change to how active the game as a brand is, wherever the player base is playing from.

[@fursty.]

i feel like PZ will not be able to pull in a large part of the Private Server community, whether that be because they don't want to pay for memberships, or because of the fact Private Servers aren't beholden to jagex's rules (primarily around gambling). I think that there will be popular ones, and I'm very excited to see what the creative community can do when given some tools to truly develop quests, bosses, area expansions and the like. but i dont think any PZ server will be killing the main game. I also don't ever agree with the "nostalgia" point. I have no nostalgia for OSRS, I didnt grow up with RS2, never played RS3. I have poured around 1700 hours into my account this year, hit 1900 total, and I'm only now starting to work on longer grinds. OSRS has only grown since it's launch, and it's not because of nostalgia. Games don't grow new players with nostalgia, a new player has no nostalgia at all. I think PZ will be great for the creatives, and good as a resource for players to learn content to help them on the main game. I think it'll also be like Leagues. where a server pops up, draws in new players, and those that get hooked inevitably migrate back to the main game, because this is where all of us are, and where, ultimately, everything actually matters. Do a ToB in a private server? cool, now do it in the main game. Do an Inferno with infinite supplies? now do it in the main game. I think it can be good, but I have 0 doubt that PZ servers will ever pull more players than main game servers.

[@MrPezdispencer]

Yeah I'd imagine Ash charges quite a bit for his video appearances.

[@SocomhunterX-o4x]

The game will be fine. Look at leagues. There's a reason thy put a limitation in time for it because they know nobody would keep playing it for a year or more. It'll have an impact short term but long-term I don't think it'll matter too much aside from being a practice tool or if a KZbinr launches a limited competition server or something. The only appeal to the game is the grind. It's just that a lot of people don't realise that. It's fun to be maxed for a while but it wears off so quickly. But it'll be nice to learn high-end PvM by making a league's type of game where you can apply buffs to yourself or nerfs to the boss or maybe disable/enable some of the boss's mechanics like the glacier boss on RS3 so you can learn bosses without being overloaded by mechanics immediatly. It would benefit the PvM & even the PvP scene immensely by providing them an accurate replica of the real game where they can practice without going broke.

[@appyritionz1930]

Not a bad video but I'm struggling to understand why there isn't more mod ash in the frame

[@CPSteveMiller]

Nostalgia is genuinely the only reason I play. If I was a new player coming to the game, I would absolutely not play 😂 Loved the old moparscape servers back in the day!

[@shroomjak200]

Is project zanaris basically just permanent leagues?

[@ThatOneNerdGaming]

I've been playing both rs and MANY rsps for over 2 decades. Rsps get a bad reputation and I don't know how. The only negative thing I've had happen in an rsps was getting banned for agreeing that mobs should be placed in correct locations. Now I did stay away from those massively customized servers that had goku for bandos and spongebob for kril but that was just preferences. Did try a couple just couldn't get into them. But still no negative stuff happened like keylogged and what not. And with project zanris announcement rsps servers are already starting to drop and lose people. Some have shut down due to it and it won't be out for years most likely.

[@Daltonownzyoulol]

will there be people who only play the new private servers rather than the main game? yes obviously if leagues was available as a perm game mode, many people would never go bsck to the main game (unless they wanted to explore the other areas) Like you said, it would be a good way to get new players (and paying customers) in the door to try out Runescape for the first time, I could even see those new players also crossing over to RS3 wanted to know what that experience is also

[@dontcareboutname1]

If I wanted to play a private server. I’d play a private server. This won’t effect the main game

[@morephenek]

A server like leagues but without the area locks or the op relics would be great for those new players who want to try that content. You both would start off fresh and work together, like group iron but the grind is faster. Cut the 100 hour grind down to 10.

[@ellisdavies7649]

Tbh having a maxed account but with no loot or gear would be pretty good. Id give that a go. I miss playing really but dont wanna spend all my time grinding 1 level to get another level to unlock a quest to kill a boss.. and so on

[@andreavenaa]

Doesn’t it also affect leagues? It won’t be as eventful if you can just go to a private server whenever you want

[@rorykeefe8954]

3:27 offering SERVICES?!? What kind are we talking here?? Are we in the timeline where it will be that only OSRS players know what OSRS players want in the sheets???

[@markopalosuo4293]

It will be just like league,people have fun like month and come back .Some will stay there but majority will return to main game

[@putkipihvi324]

Permanent leagues worlds before this so we could Max in every league!

[@timeofdying007]

I actively played rs from 2006-2012 when EOC arrived and that made me quit. I was an end game player with party hats and spirit shields etc. I came back to OSRS when it was released ~6 months later and played off and on but re-grinding the 6 years of progress I made as a kid in high school / college / now adulthood just isn’t interesting/feasible for me. I am competent (maybe rusty) in the core game mechanics and even game knowledge to some extent because I’ve followed series off and on but I’ve never done any of the modern age content. A simple server where I could jump back into the game mode would absolutely get me to play again - at least for some period of time. It’s not clear to me if I’d get the same level of enjoyment out of it, but it’s certainly entice me to try whereas now it’s basically a nonstarter. The challenge I foresee is I don’t know if/how the servers will stand up over some time. I would quickly quit if I didn’t have a set of high level peers to play with and because the game mode is effectively made up, I think high level players would understandably prefer playing that content on the main game (I would if I still had the account progress).

[@nicksacco5041]

Sounds like a rollercoaster tycoon sandbox mode without the rollercoasters. I wouldn’t be worried though; osrs players are masochists

[@bigstraz]

GIVE THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT!!!

[@Cjhastings4]

I like the main game. I think I’d only use this new mode to practice bosses or something

[@TinyBellEnd]

A server with leagues relics that resets with each season would do me just fine, i dont enjoy rs anymore but leagues is always a blast so having that to play would keep me paying sub fees... where as right now i only ever really play for 2 months of the year (leagues)

[@fairleemade]

Unsure, just like private servers your progress will get wiped and its for nothing. The main game my accounts have been around for years. It's a gimmick and will attract new players, but overall I would invest my time in the base game.

[@imaybebadproductions8851]

Love the video. Didn’t know this was even coming to RuneScape. I played custom / fake servers as a kid and for me … it was one of the worst things I had ever been exposed to. The thrill of mining a handful of rocks and instantly going to 99 mining or killing a few goblins and being maxed combat. I was killing mobs that in the main game I had never thought I’d reach. It was so exciting… for an hour or so. Then of course… I ran out of stuff to do and … I didn’t want to go back to the grinding style of the main game. I stopped playing for 15 years after that until I discovered OSRS and have always been resistant to the idea of boosted xp servers ever since. Hopefully this is more of a fun way to practice boss mechanics or custom quests and not something that takes over as the new “main game”

[@Jmmz12]

Even deadman mode has boosted exp... and leagues, so there's already ways the game is "broken" but it doesn't kill the main game.

[@gagep.7017]

have yall never played a minecraft or gmod server? Shit is riddled with MTC and RWT

[@mrwillham5393]

I love ya link. But after you said teenage NINJA mutant turtles I had the giggles an that was it for me. But aside from heavy giggling I think it's all fair points made. But honestly even if the main game suffers a player drop. Their will be so many fun servers to hop into, and some of them are going to be the best that everyone wants to be in an things will kind of settle down over time I think.

[@ayrton146]

they should allow multiple log ins, i have the same account for rs3 and osrs. i have to choose to play one. with legends out i have to choose 1 of the 3 game styles. i have multilpe monitors and dont want to be reduced to making multiple accounts and have to do the same quests over and over.

[@syndirsloth5574]

Man i cant even get my account back. I moved from Wisconsin back to TN and I went to log in and my accounts been locked for "suspicious activity" I've had this account since forever I'm so sad

[@doejohn6067]

Would love to see a way to customize your stat block to go from a max main one day to a one Def. pure the next. Just a way to set and reset what level a skill is.

[@poiklp5615]

This service is clearly going to be members only... So ... Jagex doesn't care as long as their making money off of it

[@b1O15]

100% guns are being added

[@markopalosuo4293]

And nsfw servers lol

[@AGoodBean]

Interesting, but osrs is full of addicts boiiii! We'll mess about but we'll be back. Plus, it has roblox vibes with all the custom servers.

[@duckwings4927]

Project zanaris will either be dead content or do eoc-like damage to the game. I'm hoping it doesn't get through, but I'm afraid it will.