Plague Pits on the Underground?

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Jago Hazzard

Jago Hazzard

3 жыл бұрын

How much truth is there in the story of Underground tunnels running through mass graves? We get to the bare bones of the matter in today’s video.
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@crispoman
@crispoman 3 жыл бұрын
I heard that the London Necropolis Railway didn't have enough staff, which is why they ran a skeleton service.
@jimtaylor294
@jimtaylor294 3 жыл бұрын
>BaDum Tsss
@jayray4327
@jayray4327 3 жыл бұрын
A bare bones operation...?
@DJ_K666
@DJ_K666 3 жыл бұрын
@Rebel Historian There were also licensed bars at both stations within the cemetery at Brookwood, leading to an amusing story involving a drunk loco driver
@MrFlashpoint1978
@MrFlashpoint1978 3 жыл бұрын
Napoleon Boney-part was jealous.
@lapeez2277
@lapeez2277 3 жыл бұрын
necropolis
@brianartillery
@brianartillery 3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff, and bonus points for mentioning 'Quatermass And The Pit'. The station in the movie was called 'Hobbs' End'. That is/was the name given to a model station used in training (no pun intended) Tube train drivers. Where I live, in Suffolk, there are plague pits dotted everywhere. Unmarked, of course. In the 1980's my best mate's dad, who was a builder, was at a house in the middle of nowhere (there's a lot of that in Suffolk), marking out foundations for a summer house in the garden. Having measured the site, he was hammering pegs into the ground, when suddenly it gave way, and he fell about ten feet into a hole full of bones. It was a plague pit. The soil over it had weathered away until it was like a bubble, which gave way when he hammered a stake into it. He knew what the hole was, but didn't get out, but called the houseowner to phone for an ambulance, as he'd cut himself in the fall. In hospital, he said he was stuck with pretty much every needle in the place, and had to stay for a few days, just in case. Luckily, he was fine.
@lapeez2277
@lapeez2277 3 жыл бұрын
that guys basement must look just like mine!
@suzyqualcast6269
@suzyqualcast6269 3 жыл бұрын
What year was that ¿?
@brianartillery
@brianartillery 3 жыл бұрын
@@suzyqualcast6269 - Probably about 1982-83.
@edepillim
@edepillim 3 жыл бұрын
Hopefully the yersinia pestis dies completely within a few years unlike anthrax where the bacillus forms a protective crust and can live in soil for centuries
@RhodianColossus
@RhodianColossus 3 жыл бұрын
@@edepillim it's called a cyst or spore, and yeah, yersinia pestis doesn't form those. centuries afterward it would've been impossible to be infected with it. they likely held the guy in hospital bc of anything else he could've gotten infected with rather than the plague itself, unless they just didn't know that it was impossible for the plague to be a threat in that case
@jayray4327
@jayray4327 3 жыл бұрын
I had the opportunity to handle and examine some of the skeletal remains unearthed during the Charterhouse dig. It was a truly eerie experience seeing, literally, buckets of bones at the Museum of London Archaeological Archive. I feel a chill just now thinking of this experience, seven years later. Loved the video and looking forward to more on this subject. Cheers.
@gavin169
@gavin169 3 жыл бұрын
In my city, when they widened a major road in the 70s, they uncovered a pit full of irish bones, killed from Cholera. Wouldnt expect that in Canada.
@xxxggthyf
@xxxggthyf 3 жыл бұрын
Pah!... That's nothing. Here in Hull they excavated a graveyard and found clear signs that the people had died from syphilis long before it was believed the disease came to Europe from the Americas. I think they later decided it wasn't that after all, but being able to claim my adopted home-town has led the world in spreading the clap for over five centuries is too good a yarn to be ruined by facts.
@xxxggthyf
@xxxggthyf 3 жыл бұрын
@Stephen Anthony Fossilised cans of Guinness.
@xxxggthyf
@xxxggthyf 3 жыл бұрын
@PSYCHO This is the internet. It's all about competition :-D
@lapeez2277
@lapeez2277 3 жыл бұрын
Stephen Anthony because they came from ireland
@0rbeez
@0rbeez 3 жыл бұрын
Stephen Anthony they were posed to spell out “Irish”
@cockneyse
@cockneyse 3 жыл бұрын
My immediate thought about construction workers being showered with dead body parts was that it was never going to happened as with cut and cover, people would have been digging down into any pits, and with deep level lines they would be too deep to encounter such pits.
@rjjcms1
@rjjcms1 3 жыл бұрын
As a child I read the story of the almost entirely lost coastal town of Dunwich,which had at least 3 churches in its medieval prime. As the remorseless erosion by the sea devoured one of the graveyards it apparently left bones sticking out of the cliffs and skulls and skeletons strewn sadly over the beach.
@divarachelenvy
@divarachelenvy 3 жыл бұрын
keep em coming Jago... Please cover that station too.. cheers from Brisbane Australia.
@AidenHowlett
@AidenHowlett 3 жыл бұрын
Ayy good to see I'm not the only Aussie here! Perhaps there's a similar series but in Sydney worth putting together...
@bryan3550
@bryan3550 3 жыл бұрын
And Cheers from Melbourne too!
@TotoDG
@TotoDG 3 жыл бұрын
And from Adelaide!
@ReHerakhte
@ReHerakhte 3 жыл бұрын
And one from Perth... seems all we're missing is Tassie and the Territory
@leeaheron1
@leeaheron1 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers from Ascot, Brisbane, too :-)
@grahambartram7944
@grahambartram7944 2 жыл бұрын
The plague pit I heard about was on the part of the Metropolitan line that heads north out of Baker Street. If coming from the north you pass a disused station (Lord's I believe), cross the Regent Canal, and then dive down into a tunnel on quite a gradient. The explanation I was given for this was that the line had to pass under a plague pit so went down steeply, passed under it and then rose back again to reach Baker street at just below street level. Coincidentally whilst looking for a new office for our company in the 1990s I looked at an office building below some flats on Park Road, right next to the canal (now being rebuilt as Atrium Tower or some such). The offices were great, but every time a Met line train passed behind them the building shook! Having had my first London office in Villiers House, above Ealing Broadway station, I knew that our Californian colleagues would not appreciate the shaking and probably dive under the table - which is what they did at Villiers House - "Earthquake!" they shouted as they dived under the table, "4:35 from Paddington" we replied...
@robertgreenwood9824
@robertgreenwood9824 3 жыл бұрын
Unbelievably underrated channel. I've never even been within 1000 miles of London and I can't stop watching. I thought the subway here in Boston was old, Its crazy to think London's pre dates it by almost 50 years. Keep up the good work!
@RichardWatt
@RichardWatt 3 жыл бұрын
There is a tunnel on the main railway network that was excavated through land belonging to a graveyard. The workers would often encounter skeletons of the people buried during the works and there were stories of steam engines suffering dangerous blowback from the furnace at one point in the tunnel.
@jovanweismiller7114
@jovanweismiller7114 3 жыл бұрын
15.4K!!! You're moving right along, Young Man, and I'm enjoying following your track(s). LOL!
@brianartillery
@brianartillery 3 жыл бұрын
Watching this again made me think of the Fawlty Towers episode 'Basil And The Rat'. Basil Fawlty has a conversation with Manuel about Manuel's new pet rat (or Spanish Hamster, as the pet shop owner told Manuel), which starts: "Have you ever heard of the black death, Manuel? It was very popular here in the middle ages..."
@hairyairey
@hairyairey 3 жыл бұрын
Man in shop say "Filigree Siberian Hamster" 🐀
@jeffwalker7185
@jeffwalker7185 3 жыл бұрын
I think the discovery of the 'Cross Bones' grave yard near Southwark Cathedral is interesting. Not a plague pit, but a pauper's graveyard and the last resting place of many female sex workers who were licenced by the Bishop of Winchester to work in brothels. They were good enough to pay a licence fee to the Bishop and sell their bodies, but were not allowed burial on church land.
@asciisynth
@asciisynth 3 жыл бұрын
'Wee dye.' And incidentally, they did use urine to dye cloth..
@JagoHazzard
@JagoHazzard 3 жыл бұрын
They probably produced plenty of it when they saw that skeleton.
@nicolasbruno829
@nicolasbruno829 3 жыл бұрын
@@JagoHazzard LMAO
@2H80vids
@2H80vids 3 жыл бұрын
Did I not read somewhere that urine was exported, by rail, from Newcastle? I don't remember the details and I'm sure there's a joke or two in there but I'm sure it came from a reliable source.😁
@MrTumbleweed22
@MrTumbleweed22 3 жыл бұрын
@@2H80vids they were taking the pee?
@2H80vids
@2H80vids 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrTumbleweed22 Obviously, and taking the piss out of Geordies too.👍😁 It was something to do with textiles, I think, making cloth stronger, or dying it.
@1258-Eckhart
@1258-Eckhart 3 жыл бұрын
Hazzard, you're fast becoming a national treasure.
@JagoHazzard
@JagoHazzard 3 жыл бұрын
Oh Lord it’s a bad lookout for our country if so...
@1258-Eckhart
@1258-Eckhart 3 жыл бұрын
@@JagoHazzard pas du tout - the CBE beckons.
@russelledwards001
@russelledwards001 3 жыл бұрын
Well he’s in the media that’s how you get them these days.
@mcarp555
@mcarp555 3 жыл бұрын
I would think that only the cut & cover lines would have encountered pits. Certainly deeper tunnels would possibly go underneath any pits dug during the plague years. Also as a side note, the large building with the curved exterior in Charterhouse Square (at 7:53) is the one used as the exterior of Hercule Poirot's house in the David Suchet series.
@dodgydruid
@dodgydruid 3 жыл бұрын
My father went down with several BR assessment teams and surveyors to the old Snow Hill tunnel and he said they discovered by accident one charnal pit from the old Newgate prison down under there and where they were excavating for a building's foundation several more were found close by. Some thought there were originally wells that when dried up were turned into mass graves for dead prisoners just capped the well off when full and so on. My father having still been passed out for Loughborough Jnc and the old Holborn layout at Blackfriars was chosen for his views on where to site signals, crossings etc and often had to go to meetings sometimes held in bizarre locations like Manchester or Bristol well off the SR turf. It was a very tricky layout as not only did Victoria have to hand over units to the Midland at Farringdon, it also had to handshake with London Bridge for those Thameslinks running down by the old carriage sheds onto Borough Market Jnc which in rush hour is insanely busy with trains creeping block to block.
@johnedwards1685
@johnedwards1685 3 жыл бұрын
My town was overtaken by plague in 1665. The town was quarantined from the rest of County and a third of the townspeople died. Nearly 1000 dead. The survivors were kept fed by food donated by the kind and the merciful and left in a field for collection. The Earl of Warwick and the Lord Maynard gave sheep and bullocks. According to my school history teacher, the dead were too many to bury with dignity. The town is a crossing of two Roman roads. A lane joined two of the Roman approaches, a short cut. My teacher explained that the dead were carted down the lane and tipped out. The best part of 1000 dumped along that sunken lane. When the plague passed, ever pragmatic, they covered over the bodies, abandoned the lane and set up another parallel to it. That road is still in use. The teacher (50 years ago) took the class to the spot where an entranceway cuts through the old lane. You can still see the U-shaped track of the old lane as it goes up the hill. I can’t find mention of the plague lane in local history online and therefore cannot verify the story. It doesn’t take too much imagination though in a situation where the clergy are dead, the gravediggers are dead and the population are too sick and frightened to leave their houses, needs must and there aren’t many alternatives.
@teecefamilykent
@teecefamilykent 3 жыл бұрын
Friend of mine who worked for BR said that at the far end of one of the platforms there is a burial ground they found when Liverpool Street was being rebuilt in the late 80's early 90's.
@michaelmonn9308
@michaelmonn9308 3 жыл бұрын
Great videos and I really enjoy the short, informative format. Thanks for that. Glad to see your channel getting noticed and to see the subscriber numbers climbing.
@M1CAE1.
@M1CAE1. 3 жыл бұрын
The only plague pit I'd heard about wasn't from the Tube running through it, but the pit itself preventing the building of a Tube station, that being at Fenchurch St. It would explain why the nearest Tube station is Tower Hill, and also why Fenchurch St. is the only London terminus not directly served by the Tube...
@michellebyrom6551
@michellebyrom6551 3 жыл бұрын
I always wondered why there was a walk between those two stations when every other station seemed well connected without leaving the system. A relative lived in Basildon for a time, so I passed through that way occasionally.
@cargy930
@cargy930 3 жыл бұрын
The thighbone's connected to the Crossrail, the thighbone's connected to the Crossrail, the thighbone's connected to the Crossrail, hear the word of the Lord.
@andyjay729
@andyjay729 3 жыл бұрын
The leg bone's connected to my wristwatch...
@cargy930
@cargy930 3 жыл бұрын
@@andyjay729 Surely that's a wind up?! :P
@MrFlashpoint1978
@MrFlashpoint1978 3 жыл бұрын
@@cargy930 Runs like clockwork though.
@leongkinwai9709
@leongkinwai9709 3 жыл бұрын
@@andyjay729 If it isn't my old friend Mr. McGreg: With a leg for an arm and an arm for a leg!
@user-ng9gd4vl9s
@user-ng9gd4vl9s 2 жыл бұрын
Ha love it
@mickeydodds1
@mickeydodds1 3 жыл бұрын
Apparently, soon after the Metropolitan Railway's construction in the 1860s, the retaining wall of the deep cutting at Farringdon Street collapsed due to extreme torrential rain. The retaining wall abutted on to one of the very many 'burial grounds' which pockmarked Victorian inner London, before the great outer cemeteries were established. Due to railway workings, many sets of remain were re interred in 'death houses' in the burial ground precincts. Huge flooding consequent to the retaining wall collapse apparently littered the railway with corpses.
@jackdowd4746
@jackdowd4746 2 жыл бұрын
That is fascinating. Do you have a source for this? It’s not that I don’t believe you but I want to conduct research into this.
@mats7492
@mats7492 3 жыл бұрын
I bet we’re are walking over plenty of unknown graves every day
@lozzii1917
@lozzii1917 3 жыл бұрын
Not just walking there's tons places built on graveyards, Asylums, Hospitals, places where those died a hideous excruciatingly agonising painful languishing infectious diseases to eventually die from or places where people were executed or tortured to death or modern world murdered by some narcissistic sadistic psychotic nutters, jails, businesses including pubs and churches etc also farms, quarries, mines the thing is not everything was recorded I'm researching my family ancestors places they lived, worked, went to education, even where they are buried information didn't exist even photos don't exist like 1950s emergency housing my late mother lived in nothing i find it very frustrating yet go back centuries you got more chance of finding about things daft really is. Even to this day those professor who studied pass life are totally stumped I've heard of some are decades in to the work and due to retire to only discover new things which stops them from retiring as there fascinated by it so am I absolutely love history and old Victorian and Edwardian houses something of fantasy dream of living in one as I'm very extremely severely disabled i love all the original features minus obvious that has to be upgraded to fit in with building regulations and health and safety ie all electrics, boiler and heating etc yet it can be done ever so painfully respectfully done doing it sympatheticly people rip the heart and soul out place so very very sad even the original gorgeous beautiful fireplaces and the surrounds. My property I'm in the now was built on old primary school of 1960s up the road in the area that was huts for school there was suicide someone hung them self to this day I heard from neighbors she's still seen hanging from the beam or wandering aimlessly so it's no surprise what's been lurking under ground the more they disturb the ground the more restless lost souls are going to wander
@fraser1614
@fraser1614 3 жыл бұрын
@@lozzii1917 funny enough near where I live is an old mental asylum, but now it's been converted into a really fancy spa/hotel. Sits somewhat odd to me that a place where people would have suffered horrible me tal torment, is now used as somewhere to relax by those wealthy enough to stay there.
@jamesupton4996
@jamesupton4996 3 жыл бұрын
And places where people have been killed. I come from Derry, Northern Ireland. You could do a whole walking tour pointing out where so and so was killed, and then, for day 2 of the tour go visit their graves in the different graveyards. Two good days walking there. (And after lockdown ends, plenty of pubs en route.)
@rjjcms1
@rjjcms1 3 жыл бұрын
I stayed in Bucharest once and as we walked round Ceaucescu's palace the clearly visible bullet holes were there pointed out to us and there was the odd shrine to a young person who lost their life in the uprising. The young Romanian woman who was showing us round said they "forgave" him and his missus and buried them in the city's main graveyard.
@ardenofmoss
@ardenofmoss 3 жыл бұрын
3:10 a young single diet coke commuting to work.
@missyc13
@missyc13 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe it was going back to the syrup company with a complaint
@robertb7918
@robertb7918 2 жыл бұрын
I was told about the idea of there being odd bends in the underground lines where the builders were trying to avoid plague pits many years ago. At the same time I heard that the reason why Moorgate terminated was because the workmen encountered something that terrified them so much they refused to dig further, with the suggestion that whatever they saw might have been the cause of the Moorgate station disaster described in one of your other videos. I have found no other reference to this proposal.
@otherboleyngirll
@otherboleyngirll 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting, any ideas on what it was they allegedly saw that scared them?
@jonnotshared7590
@jonnotshared7590 3 жыл бұрын
I used to work on the Bakerloo line and spent a fair bit of my time at London Road Depot. The depot is said to be haunted by the ghost of a Nun from the convent next door. Long before the railway arrived there she threw herself to her death from the top of the convent. Suicide in the catholic religion is a big no-no (especially within the confines of a religious order) so she was buried outside the the grounds of the order, technically where the depot is now. Several of my colleagues have reported "strange, odd, un-natural or weird" instances whilst working at night in the depot. The run-off line (to prevent any possibility of a train rolling out onto the main line) had an illuminated sign on the end wall saying something like "Absolutely positively no digging beyond this wall without written consent from everybody from the city planner to HM the Queen" This was always said to be because of the presence of a plague pit associated with the hospital in the building that now houses the Imperial War Museum. I've never met the ghost or tried to dig through the wall, but I would have thought that the location of plague pits would be recorded and if there was any ambiguity then Geophysics should be able to confirm what's down there. Geophysics was used at Stratford Market Depot when Thames water wanted to run a large pipe under the depot because of some sort of sporting event taking place in 2012. They discovered the remains of people that were buried outside the old Stratford Langthorne Abbey. As un-official burials they were never recorded by the Abbey so Thames water had to tread carefully with their excavations / tunneling.
@bryanmower2703
@bryanmower2703 3 жыл бұрын
Having worked on the planning side of the underground for a number of years, most new asset deviations were to go around "undisclosed obstacles" not plague pits. Never told what they were, just that we had to stay away from them
@thetimeisnow6822
@thetimeisnow6822 3 жыл бұрын
Nice to hear some of our forgotten history. It is most important that all this information is either written down or made into informative videos. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
@TheAnon03
@TheAnon03 3 жыл бұрын
If any line cuts through a plague pit it'd be the Northern Line.
@train_paul9478
@train_paul9478 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I love the narration and the history of the underground. You should definitely do one another day about the single line branches that underground has. Keep up the good work 👍🏻
@1minigrem
@1minigrem 3 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the cross bones cemetery one. This vid was great, really interesting.
@JagoHazzard
@JagoHazzard 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@aliendon73
@aliendon73 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Here's one I know of. When they were tunneling for the Jubilee extension under Jamaica road in Southwark, when one of the boaring machine went under the graveyard of St. James church. The crown area (ceiling) of the tunnel collapsed and a lot of skeletal remains fell onto the tunnel floor. All the bodies were relocated to other burial sites. The Bakerloo line may run into a small pox pit when they extend the line towards Old Kent road, there is a small pox pit located under Jeffery Chaucer's school playground, just off the New Kent road.
@KatTheScribe
@KatTheScribe 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating tale! Currently making my happy way through your channel. Love the Tube series. My trip to London this year was postponed by another disease so I am enjoying a vicarious 'visit'.
@HonestMan112
@HonestMan112 3 жыл бұрын
Jago and his puns 😂 Great video
@MazHem
@MazHem 3 жыл бұрын
I liked the story that the reason no trains go under hyde park is because too many corpses, but I know that's not real now, they just follow the roads because it's easier. When St Pancras was extended they did dig up a lot of graves there though! Apparently they ended up with a big conveyor belt of corpses rather than individually taking care of the graves.
@o.m.b.demolitionenterprise5398
@o.m.b.demolitionenterprise5398 3 жыл бұрын
After watching a lot of your modelling and informational videos throughout yesterday I have subscribed. It will be good to see you get up to 20k.
@JagoHazzard
@JagoHazzard 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@neilbain8736
@neilbain8736 3 жыл бұрын
Well researched. Very informative. I knew there had been something about mass graves as Tony Robinson popped up on tv about it but this fills in more detail.
@nightlurker
@nightlurker 3 жыл бұрын
@Jago Is there any chance of you doing a video on the Brookwood Necropolis Railway. It's a story that has fascinated me for many years as I lived in the area when I was a kid, but unfortunately I have not been able to find much in depth information about the company apart from the fact the rail line is still there on the viaduct for Waterloo Station approach. I am sure it is a story that would benefit from your particular style of historical videos.
@merlinonline67
@merlinonline67 3 жыл бұрын
Misconception about underground tunnels running through plague pits, it is the actual stations that were built on the old sites of old churches see the tv doc 'Ghosts on the underground' on youtube
@carolinethompson7173
@carolinethompson7173 3 жыл бұрын
I lived in London between 1974 and 1977. During that time I listened to 'little' Nicky Horne on Capital Radio. He had regular feature about 'myths & legends' of 'old London town', one featured an apparent plague pit between Paddington & Edgeware Road underground stations. Allegedly due to the burials the ground had fallen away over time, thus there was an appreciable 'dip' as the train passed one part of the line over causing ones' ears to 'pop'. I accept however that there might other explanations, especially when one thinks of say the continuing problems with the high water table at Farringdon. Though the romantic in me like to think it is a plague pit! Please keep up the good work, fascinating videos thank you. M
@terezar880
@terezar880 3 жыл бұрын
I was totally expecting something about Farringdon, with the stories about it being haunted
@oz1902
@oz1902 3 жыл бұрын
I have a bone to pick with London Underground.
@ihateyoufyad
@ihateyoufyad 3 жыл бұрын
Found your channel today , been going through all your videos. Good stuff
@GlasshouseandGarden
@GlasshouseandGarden 3 жыл бұрын
This is great! What a fascinating history (again) about places we thought we knew but you show we need to know more. Have you done (or thought of doing) a history of the area of Whitehall (was York Place, home of Scotland Yard etc)? Maybe a super-long special to celebrate 16k followers?
@clydeceniza2521
@clydeceniza2521 3 жыл бұрын
Struck gold with this channel! Such interesting topics discussed.
@JagoHazzard
@JagoHazzard 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@johnjephcote7636
@johnjephcote7636 3 жыл бұрын
When they were building the Victoria Line, workers were troubled by an unusually cold, damp 'something' around them. I remember reports at the time, incl. in the Railway Magazine. Also my friend's father, working for Cementation on the line stopped his workmen playing football as the clay they were kicking contained a skull.
@mikkoistanbul1322
@mikkoistanbul1322 2 жыл бұрын
Not the Underground, but a London railway. There was an Ox-bow lake left behind when the Thames shifted its route a tad. Perfect as a burial ground for plague victims! A lake of the dead…. Along came a railway. By then the lake was filled in and a station built on top. Named Mort-lake. Beside which, incidentally, to this day is a building built as the station waiting room for Queen Victoria.
@gracefelstead4785
@gracefelstead4785 3 жыл бұрын
this has just made me realise that the northern line between moorgate & old street would likely go directly under bunhill fields burial ground, a site which was prepared for use as a plague pit but not believed to have been used as such due to the death rate slowing down. which makes me wonder if any bones were encountered while building that section of the northern line... there was a hill worth of bones there after all...
@lotsofspots
@lotsofspots 3 жыл бұрын
The line is far, far too deep there.
@benw7631
@benw7631 3 жыл бұрын
Good vid. Thanks. My old man was involved in the construction of the St Botolph building North West of the church and Aldgate Station. He said they had to reinter "a lot" of burials. I'll try to get some more info. Piccadilly line is 20metres+. below the surface and too deep for a burial pit. The line bends at Knightsbridge-S.Kensington for the line to follow the course of the road as is standard (wayleave). The Victorian viaducts built in Bankside disturbed a burial ground at Ewer Street. 'They do say' that the bodies weren't reburied but shifted aside and stacked vertically.
@Conan500
@Conan500 3 жыл бұрын
I’d heard the tale about the alleged plague pit around South Ken on the Piccadilly Line where it bends tightly. However, I’ve often thought the line would have been too deep to hit the plague pit.
@highpath4776
@highpath4776 3 жыл бұрын
You will have to go into St Botolph's Aldgate . The internal murals have rather wacky cherubium on the walls, not surprised puritans painted most of them out to plain walls and listings of the commandments
@Lexify
@Lexify 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! I appreciated the narration improvements too! 😄
@chrisjinks5197
@chrisjinks5197 3 жыл бұрын
I hope someone from National Geographic discovers you and give you loads of money to make tales of tube for a full feature length series
@JagoHazzard
@JagoHazzard 3 жыл бұрын
That would be great !
@TankerReview
@TankerReview 3 жыл бұрын
When you showed a picture of the death karts. All I was thinking " I'm not dead yet.. " from Monty Python.
@elizabethspedding1975
@elizabethspedding1975 3 жыл бұрын
Thank-you that was very interesting. I saw about the Elizabeth Line on our local news.
@user-pw3tr1xg2x
@user-pw3tr1xg2x 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video Jago !
@TheNgandrew
@TheNgandrew 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent stuff, and I am pleased you were guided by evidence and not wishful speculation. Great humour also, as usual.
@PtolemyJones
@PtolemyJones 3 жыл бұрын
Quartermaster and the Pit was a great movie!
@ds1868
@ds1868 3 жыл бұрын
QUARTERMASS.
@rogerkearns8094
@rogerkearns8094 3 жыл бұрын
It was, but the TV serial was better I think. [Edited to add] Oh, and actually it was _Quatermass._
@neiloflongbeck5705
@neiloflongbeck5705 3 жыл бұрын
Spike's version was much better...
@rogerkearns8094
@rogerkearns8094 3 жыл бұрын
@@ds1868 Quatermass.
@PtolemyJones
@PtolemyJones 3 жыл бұрын
Spellcheck killed me. Ouch.
@AozoraUltra2006
@AozoraUltra2006 3 жыл бұрын
I’m A fascinated Toronto resident with a serious subway system envy
@admydragon
@admydragon 3 жыл бұрын
Our TTC is embarrassing, isn't it?
@Mysterywatcher448
@Mysterywatcher448 3 жыл бұрын
Would love a video on ghosts on the underground
@catherinepalmer4812
@catherinepalmer4812 3 жыл бұрын
Haha love the dark humour . Was so excited to do the breakfast dishes this morning as it's the only time I get to watch anything in peace haha. I think even with advances in technology as London expands no doubt more discoveries will be made . Fingers crossed you reach 20k subscribers x
@JagoHazzard
@JagoHazzard 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@jasonmaccoul9424
@jasonmaccoul9424 3 жыл бұрын
Never disappoints. Great episode!
@noelbowman8052
@noelbowman8052 3 жыл бұрын
Jago I did enjoy this vid we have always skated over the history of plague pits. Please do an account of the funeral trains from Waterloo, if you get a spare minute I would love to know more cheers
@josephomalley1526
@josephomalley1526 3 жыл бұрын
And what of Leyton to stratford on the Central Line ?, the train descends sharply upon entering the tunnel and the local legend is again that it does that to dodge a plague pit.
@crackerlackingproductions6746
@crackerlackingproductions6746 3 жыл бұрын
These videos are really making me want to put London on my need to visit bucket list.
@gbeeken1964
@gbeeken1964 Жыл бұрын
HiJago , I worked night shifts in RBS Derbyshire square , between Liverpool st and Aldgate Three floors down on my own at many times , You get to know the noises of the machinery and you can have an ear out when something is wrong .. More than one night I had some odd experiences , not as odd as old Bob at Stratford station before the Olympic park was built .
@hoofie2002
@hoofie2002 3 жыл бұрын
I would have thought the tube lines are much deeper than any plague pit
@Lexify
@Lexify 3 жыл бұрын
Cut and cover lines are very shallow
@barvdw
@barvdw 3 жыл бұрын
@@Lexify ...and ground level has risen in cities, sometimes considerably. Just look at how deep some Romanesque churches lie beneath the current street level.
@alwardgrover3347
@alwardgrover3347 3 жыл бұрын
Yet another great Vid keep up the good work
@highpath4776
@highpath4776 3 жыл бұрын
Apparently I read elsewhere on a vid that part of the District around Sloane Squarish was diverted in construction to avoid a plague pit.
@liamtahaney713
@liamtahaney713 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, as per usual
@PtolemyJones
@PtolemyJones 3 жыл бұрын
Huzzah, a new one, I think I've seen them all already.
@Jules-fx2sc
@Jules-fx2sc 3 жыл бұрын
Found a plague pit whilst digging for a new ring road in our North East city a few years ago
@davidau8455
@davidau8455 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jago for the barebones
@XFanmarX
@XFanmarX 3 жыл бұрын
Those puns at the end had me giggling in my hospital bed with a collapsed lung. The nurses think I'm mad! An interesting series so far, I'll be sure to check out your other video's. Greetings from Holland!
@helmaschine1885
@helmaschine1885 3 жыл бұрын
Holy shit man are you going to be ok??
@fizzao1342
@fizzao1342 3 жыл бұрын
My husband had that some years ago. Get well soon!
@XFanmarX
@XFanmarX 3 жыл бұрын
@@helmaschine1885 Don't worry, having a collapsed lung really sucks but I'm out of the hospital now. Thank you for your concern though, that's very sweet!
@XFanmarX
@XFanmarX 3 жыл бұрын
@@fizzao1342 Thank you!
@AJ-dk2ec
@AJ-dk2ec 3 жыл бұрын
The opening still of this video, reminded me of a Tory party conference in full flow.
@barryballinger5912
@barryballinger5912 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you django brilliantly informative more please.
@raphaelnikolaus0486
@raphaelnikolaus0486 3 жыл бұрын
Also HS2 is unearthing plague pits, or at least mass graves.
@PurityVendetta
@PurityVendetta 3 жыл бұрын
Not exactly an underground tunnel being dug through a plague pit but many remains were removed from the Crossbones Burial Ground when TFL built an electricity sub station for the Jubilee Line. Quite a horrible thing to do considering the history of the people buried in Crossbones. Okay, I'm biased and Crossbones is a bit of a special place in my heart.
@JagoHazzard
@JagoHazzard 3 жыл бұрын
It’s one I want to cover - unfortunately I happen to know a historian who’s studying it, and until she’s finished, I don’t want to make a video that might prove wrong.
@PurityVendetta
@PurityVendetta 3 жыл бұрын
@@JagoHazzard Really, my degree was in history... long story. May I email you with regard to Crossbones? As I mentioned, for my own reasons it's a place very close to my heart.
@JagoHazzard
@JagoHazzard 3 жыл бұрын
@@PurityVendetta You can, I’d be interested to hear.
@michellebyrom6551
@michellebyrom6551 3 жыл бұрын
Access to two historians with a focus on an already enigmatic location. That promises to be fascinating.
@johnnyhollis9977
@johnnyhollis9977 3 жыл бұрын
Really good, well done and thanks for that. Some acid soils can completely munch up skeletal remains. It looks very much like that the underground diggers were lucky!
@ianpatterson6552
@ianpatterson6552 Жыл бұрын
On a completely unrelated but similar point, in Newcastle Upon Tyne now many years ago, a former smallpox or leper burial ground wax excavated for a new build scientific building. The irony is there. The burial ground eventually became a cattle market and years later a bus station. When knocked the latter down, they used full bio protection wear in case any spores were hanging around.
@tombennison7571
@tombennison7571 3 жыл бұрын
I believe some of the more central adventure playgrounds in London were sited on top of old plague pits, as these spaces had been left and not built on. The one at St. Mary's in Paddington is adjacent to a now grassed over area, the old graveyard, which would have had a plague pit beside it. And I wonder just how safe it is to sink telegraph poles for structures into these sites, though I'm not aware that it was ever a problem.
@andrewcbartlett
@andrewcbartlett 2 жыл бұрын
There are rumours of Mummy's from the British Museum haunting the Central Line. They bring desert temperatures with them to the tunnels.
@pzycoman
@pzycoman 3 жыл бұрын
"More skeletons than you usually want to run into" - how much more? Is there some kind of upper limit of how many you want to run into? :)
@JagoHazzard
@JagoHazzard 3 жыл бұрын
Seven is generally considered the maximum. This is known as the Harryhausen Limit.
@terezar880
@terezar880 3 жыл бұрын
I'd say the top limit of skeletons you want to encounter is none :D
@GlasshouseandGarden
@GlasshouseandGarden 3 жыл бұрын
@@JagoHazzard I love your geekiness... never ever change.
@wibblywobblyidiotvision
@wibblywobblyidiotvision 3 жыл бұрын
@@JagoHazzard That may have been the first movie I saw at the cinema. Certainly the first I actually remember seeing, went with my grandfather.
@MrPete1x
@MrPete1x 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another great video
@s4archie
@s4archie 3 жыл бұрын
The story I heard, which seems to have evaded your notice, is that the Central Line loops around a pit somewhere around the Chancery Lane to Bank section. (Not that there's much evidence of such a loop on the physical map I just looked at).
@JagoHazzard
@JagoHazzard 3 жыл бұрын
I haven’t come across that one. I shall have to investigate.
@deathbygrapes5
@deathbygrapes5 3 жыл бұрын
Doesn't it just follow the road
@herseem
@herseem 3 жыл бұрын
According to my Dad, the sharp diversions on the central line near bank are due to avoiding the vaults at banks
@kumaranravendradas4355
@kumaranravendradas4355 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Jago, Really love your videos! Have you done a video on the supposed Dead Body train that used to stop at the Royal London hospital in a now bricked up tunnel??
@JagoHazzard
@JagoHazzard 3 жыл бұрын
Not yet...
@benjmainthompson1322
@benjmainthompson1322 3 жыл бұрын
In the 60's, 70's and early 80's a man called Kieran Patrick Kelly from Ireland murdered a Considerable amount of people by pushing them in front of oncoming trains on the Northern line between Kennington and Morden stations. He was eventually caught and prosecuted for 31 deaths but in actual fact he murdered over 70 people.
@CornishGardenTeam
@CornishGardenTeam 3 ай бұрын
having looked at London Road depot on Google Earth there isn't room enough to swing a cat in there, in fact your WW2 farm railway layout seems to be more spacious, All of the sidings appear to run right up to the boundary wall, so if any stop short of a plague pit, that pit must by under a house outside of the depot (or the siding has been extended over the pit). Fascinating subject Jago.
@josephdowling811
@josephdowling811 3 ай бұрын
@CornishGardenTeam I'm literally researching this for a novel right now and from what I can ascertain, the runaway is at the other end - one tunnel goes towards Lambeth North, the other (the runaway) terminates roughly where St George's Cathedral is, and behind THAT wall is where they say the pit is. The cathedral was built in the 1850s but it's perfectly possible this was a burial ground before then, or the church site could be coincidence, or perhaps there is no pit there! The research continues, but this is really cool!
@CornishGardenTeam
@CornishGardenTeam 2 ай бұрын
@@josephdowling811 cool will check google earth
@davidsirett5560
@davidsirett5560 3 жыл бұрын
terrific film.
@seanbonella
@seanbonella Жыл бұрын
Jago, you are the cure to any pests on KZbin.... great video
@deathbygrapes5
@deathbygrapes5 3 жыл бұрын
To verify the path of a line, just search London Underground Track Maps, and it will show you the path of the tube to scale
@superangler350
@superangler350 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love your humor
@greebo7857
@greebo7857 3 жыл бұрын
Why do I, a Melburnian in total lockdown, find your channel so fascinating? This one, though, reminds us of what a pandemic really is. You'll always get a like from me.
@JagoHazzard
@JagoHazzard 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@stashyjon
@stashyjon 3 жыл бұрын
Not the London Underground, but when in 1865 the GWR built The Bristol Harbour branch, from Temple Meads to the city docks at Bathurst Basin the route involved a 282 yard long tunnel that cut beneath the church yard of the famous St May Redcliffe, ("The fairest Parrish church in all England" - Queen Elizabeth 1). As the top of the tunnel roof would come with in 12ft or so of the surface there was real danger of graves being disturbed and remains falling into the working. To this end the GWR gave the Church £2500 to purchase land in the Arnos Vale cemetery in the south of the city (one of those great old gothic Victorian jobs, like Ealing or Highgate in London) and rebury all remains that might be disturbed by the construction there.
@Castlebank_Sidings
@Castlebank_Sidings 3 жыл бұрын
Bank Station maybe worth checking out
@barryballinger5912
@barryballinger5912 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliantly told .thank you.
@edepillim
@edepillim 3 жыл бұрын
London churchyards were so overcrowded that recent burials were just a couple of feet deep and the smell was awful. Thus a private company opened the Brookwood cemetery in Surrey. Special trains from Waterloo took the coffins to Brookwood.
@sarahc643
@sarahc643 3 жыл бұрын
Great videos. Have subscribed.
@chrisrichmond403
@chrisrichmond403 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Jago. Sorry to dig this back up ( Pardon the pun) The only one I was told about was on the Victoria Line between Victoria & Green Park where it had to be diverted around it so it does that quick distort instead of being straight through . With the latter you could say the engineers building the line found the dead Centre of it ..
@thebige7302
@thebige7302 3 жыл бұрын
Devonshire street cemetery in sydney, 30,000 in a cemetery moved for Central station which was trying to compete against Flinders Street station in Melbourne during the early 20th century
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