Jake E. Lee on Ozzy's Ultimate Sin, "I don't want to get F'd again," Inside the Album, Bob Daisley

full in bloom's INSIDE THE ALBUM: The Making of Ozzy Osbourne's 1986 album, 'The Ultimate Sin.' Comments from Ozzy, Jake E. Lee, Bob Daisley, Jimmy DeGrasso, & Sharon Osbourne.
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[@jeffreyfederico8435]

Correction. Bob Daisley released his 4th solo album and had ozzy as lead singer. There, fixed it for you

[@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle]

No, Randy Rhoads did not help write those first two albums with those mammoth riffs? This is would not be Bob Daisley, the argument is it is a band called Blizzard of ozz. Bob was instrumental, but where is bob if Randy Rhoads is not brought into the equation.

[@elinino5275]

​@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle Bob worked with Richie Blackmore. You seem to be saying that randy did all the work? Daisley taught him a lot. Just listen to his work with QR. It sucks!

[@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle]

@@elinino5275 No, that is not what I am saying, we know what Bob did with the arrangements and lyrics. I have his book Bob was in a few bands before BOO. Bob actually did not teach him much, interesting there is a guy who is allegedly friends with Bob who posts on the RR groups, and he says BOb did not have to teach or show Randy anything, he said Randy was very driven the only thing he showed Randy was on the business side. it does not suck on any level, but you know Randy did not drive the direction of that band right? listen to the solos, there you can hear it, The fact people base anyone on those two albums for a 20 year old kid who was told what to write by the label is comical. To say they suck is ignorant. Many of the riffs on the first BOO album came out of those albums, Randy brought a couple of songs that were virtually completed to Bob including Crazy train, Bob helped him work out bridges.

[@shaunclifton5281]

​@@elinino5275Truth

[@strattuner]

no bs it ain't fixed,we are talking about a helluva lot of money,JAKE IS A GENIUS,and BOB,RIGHT BESIDE HIM,they deserve it all,we live but once,we shine brightly but once,they need oz and his witch to publicly say that JAKE AND BOB carried his life and wife and the band,man it is not just rock n roll,its a fricken business

[@samzach2057]

Ozzy and Sharon Osbourne have screwed more musicians than a concert stadium full of groupies!!!

[@jimjohnson2190]

Ozzy is an amazing display of the true grace of God he hates God he's never strayed or canceled his contempt and he's always had the best guitarists in the world but his body is still breathing air and every body loves him when he meets God he will be stripped of all and he will not be a prince in hell he will just be forever destroyed but not consumed by the fire

[@dimebagvinnie644]

and your probably listening to the songs now , now write a thank you letter to Sharon now

[@PT-vv3ep]

@@jimjohnson2190 No one goes to God but thru Jesus Christ John 14:6.Repent and be born again cause once you die there is no second chance and the forever misery is unimaginable.

[@jonathanluekey3616]

Fuck you these people were lucky to ever be in the same room as OZZY ,THEY WOULD BE NOTHING WITH OUT HIM.

[@stanlee-eq7lu]

More comparable to the amount of girls Gene Simmons was with.

[@jimmycampbell78]

Everyone knows Jake E Lee and Bob Daisley wrote essentially all of Bark at the Moon and The Ultimate Sin and the Osbourne's f'd them over. They're better gentlemen than I would be, I hope they do get paid.

[@thomaskinne2357]

Maybe Daisley is? It doesn't appear as though Jake is being paid for much, unfortunately.

[@Xpunkpro]

Get an iron clad contract before doing anything with anyone because people are greedy.

[@jiverdude2775]

Jake E Lee said he was fucked by the Osbournes on Bark at the Moon, songwriting credits and such. For TUS, he had a contract in place so as to not repeat it. Seems like he got his due; 4 plus million units sold and the tour salary, he probably was set up. And he got a large upfront bonus for Badlands. He never seemed like a dumb guy; just had to learn from the school of hard knocks. Daisley; that man MADE Ozzy's CAREER!! He deserves 1000% of any profits!! For ALL of the work!!

[@ronsilvia8127]

Sharon fkd them over. Just as she is doing to ozzy

[@shaunclifton5281]

​@@jiverdude2775100% 👍

[@Joybuzzard]

If you read the lyrics to the song 'The Ultimate Sin', it's a dis-track aimed at Ozzy written to be sung by Ozzy, next level meta.

[@ChrisShortyAllen]

Bollocks

[@Davivd2]

Damn dude. After watching this video and listening intently to they lyrics, you are 100 percent right. 07 thanks for the insight.

[@WastedYears76]

Lyrics to “Secret Loser” scan this way to me too 😅

[@666Musik]

@@WastedYears76 whoa savage lol

[@AndyJay1985]

"Now you see it (Now you don't)" is another

[@BrianMan3000]

I don’t care, I loved the album when it came out and I love it now! It’s a great record regardless of what Ozzy thinks of it.

[@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle]

it is really good, it has aged semi well

[@Davivd2]

One of the commenters on this video pointed out that the lyrics to The Ultimate Sin are all about the back stabbing that Ozzy did. It's a great album, but I look at it differently now.

[@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle]

@@Davivd2 I have said that for years about the song title, though we know it is about Nuclear War. But It is amusing how it can be used to describe what Sharon and ozzy have done

[@clamdigr]

Damn straight brother, I still have my original cassette, maybe I'll dig out the old player and see if still works!!! \m/

[@Wolfie66]

Ultimate Sin was one of the first CDs I bought!

[@hurricaneaquatics]

That's my personal favorite album of Ozzy's. Those songs were fantastic so Jake and the rest who made the album, should make their own.

[@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle]

they were but they are inferior to the first two albums let's be real

[@johnsmith-ug5tp]

I love Ultimate Sin from the opening title track with that bad ass drums and bass and then Jake comes in. The whole album kicks ass finishing up with Shot in the Dark. I still remember cruising in my IROC Z T Tops out Cranking Ultimate sin. Then in 1999 I bought WS6 silver trans am and put in my Ultimate Sin CD and cruised the shoreline cranking it.

[@cs292]

I did that too..ours was white

[@JustinDeClemente]

Bob Daisley and Randy Rhoads were the perfect compliment to Ozzy's voice and persona.

[@Valkron11]

And Ozzy F'd Randy harder than Sharon did 😒

[@stanky9875]

I spoke to George Lynch approx ten years ago. One of the very few questions I asked him was his involvement with ozzy and his band. George was VERY interested in joining his band, but was being lowballed when it came to money. George said the Ozzy camp has ALWAYS treated the "hired help" like shit... including Randy Rhoads. Ozzy has enjoyed the spoils, the help never has. All the while, the "help" were doing almost all the work.

[@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle]

Randy was treated differently because he had a long term deal and Sharon knew she had to keep him so she went to him with a management fee offer, which he allegedly turned down because he did not think he should make more than anyone else in the band next to Ozzy. Would they have screwed over Randy at some point....we can only speculate. but probably is my bet./ Ozzy has had years to do the right thing and give Jake credit for BATM which is the only think Jake has ever asked for,, not even payment

[@stanky9875]

@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle I understood Randy's tenure in Ozzys band was coming to an end after the Diary of a Madman tour... Randy wasn't too keen on the idea of recording a live two-album of strictly old Black Sabbath songs. Randy could have ended up like Vito Bratta, he could have disappeared from the rock scene entirely. It's tough to say. Nonetheless, Randy probably wouldn't have gotten the money he deserved.

[@ChrisShortyAllen]

Utter garbage

[@JokersWild70]

​@@stanky9875Negative. Randy was under contract and couldn't leave until he did what became "Speak of the Devil," plus one more studio record and tour. The soonest he could've left would've probably been in mid to late 1983.

[@cwheremonster8870]

I agree. However, Randy was NEVER going to record a Sabbath live album. It was planned as a “Diary” live album. His death in march of ‘82 made that almost impossible. They were on the hook for a live album contractually. The actual “live album” came out in April, 1987. At this point, Ozzy had met his commitment to Jet Records (and Don Arden) for the “Sabbath” live album (Speak of the Devil) with Brad Gillis. And THEN, finally capitalized on Randy’s death with Tribute… and a much better pay day with Sony/CBS.

[@mattdad8429]

11:10 I love that Metallica made Sharon look like an idiot with her ridiculous "you can't dress like the crowd" mantra; then Metallica comes out and looks more like the crowd than the actual crowd, and STILL brings the house down before Ozzy can even get on stage. Metallica steamrolled everybody they ever opened for, and he was no exception.

[@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle]

except Metallica got schooled on the Ultimate sin tour, I witnessed it first hand, they got booed by old school metalheads, arenas half empty, pelted by hairbrushes..they learned a lot

[@mattdad8429]

@ight_The_Rock_Oracle Regionally, you're correct to an extent. Did you happen to see them in the midwest? I heard the flyover states were none-too thrilled for their abrasive look and sound. A friend of mine saw them in OK that tour and said the crowd were pretty pissed 90% of the show but by the end of the gig they won them over and all was well.

[@ChrisBarnette-zk8iy]

People always blame Sharon for messing people over but Ozzy knew.. I've lost respect for him over the years

[@johnhareiel5118]

@ 2:00 Ozzy saying it shouldve been called The Oz and Jake album from Jake putting in so much work......yet Sharon screws Jake from getting paid plus extorted him to sign over his royalties.

[@1176hambone]

Thieves

[@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle]

Right , the irony that Ozzy decides to give jake credit after knowingly screwing him over for BATM and Bob Daisley, And if he were going to have it named after the guys who did the most work, his name would not be on it or would be last. Blizzard of ozz, Jake- Bob ....Ozzy.

[@1176hambone]

Of course it was Sharon. Likely it wasn't really only about money but protecting Ozzy from being criticized by the press or devalued by the labels for not writing anything but humming melodies. If they got privy to that too much, they might have not let Sharon and Ozzy put the bands together, and stocked him as just a vocalist and nothing else. Regardless of what strategic excuses they may have secretly had, it was theft. The majority of superstars are successful bullies and thieves. Intimidation rules showbiz. Always has, always will.@@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle

[@1176hambone]

Ozzy is the Forest Gump of rock'nroll@@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle

[@johnhareiel5118]

@@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle Amen on that. Ozzy and Sharon screwed everyone over who helped them get their success.

[@robbiehanson4901]

Definitely a GREAT album!

[@sgt.grinch3299]

The Ultimate Sin is how Ozzy and Sharon treat the Musicians that wrote, recorded, and performed the songs. Ozzy has never written a complete song. I mean never.

[@vh1984ful]

Super album, right up there with the rest. ❤ it.

[@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle]

it's good......

[@pfzt]

The more i learn about Ozzy and Sharon, the more i start to dislike the music. It's a shame because Ozzy has such a unique voice and has contributed so much legendary stuff to music history over the past decades but sorry, those two are f'n a**holes. I don't want to support that anymore.

[@Lyka-clock]

I know, It's a shame because Blizzard changed my taste in heavy music and there wasn't anything that sounded like that out there back then. Very influential stuff!

[@PlayerToBeNamedLater1973]

If you can't separate an artists personality from their work you are not really a music fan. Ginger Baker was a surly prick but I love his drumming. John Bonham was a drunken maniac who was abusive to some people, but he was an incredible drummer . Ritchie Blackmore is difficult to get along with but he's a brilliant guitar player. Van Halen brothers didn't treat their band mates well but they were great players. These are not role models. They're artists.

[@automatoncollectives7237]

Randy was a hired gun too.

[@knuckleheadVOL]

​@@PlayerToBeNamedLater1973It doesn't have so much to do with being a dick or whatever as a musician. It has to do with them not giving credit or royalties where they are due.

[@PlayerToBeNamedLater1973]

@@knuckleheadVOL That is just another example of personal behavior , same as being a dick . It's nothing to do with anyone outside of the people involved in the band, certainly not any concern of fans . Do those albums sound different to you after hearing that Ozzy and his management team mistreated employees?

[@MitchellCoker]

Well that's a flash back to my HS years! Fun days!

[@arturoalmazan5262]

without Jake; rhoads, Bob daisley. ozzy wouldn't be anything. he didn't contribute to anything to be on that hall of fame bullshit

[@SJ-ty5rw]

The worst part is Sharon acts like he achieved all his solo artist success .. on his own ! And screwing Bob Daisley , while she has lived in countless mansions , and a lifestyle which he helped give her husband's solo career . She would have done the same to Randy also if he had lived . She hasn't given 1 person who was a writer in Ozzy's hits , the pay they deserve . You know because they are not wealthy and she and Ozzy are .

[@mrpolitenessman3539]

Don't forget Lee Kerslake and his monster drumsticks...on the original working tapes of the album diary of a madman, it's Lee singing and working out the lyrics with Bob Daisley. Great voice!.. Would love to hear those original working recordings that Bob has ..

[@2hi2dye]

Ozzy only contributed his vocals, name, act and persona. But the band I'm sure could've done without that 😵‍💫

[@jpmtlhead39]

Jake E Lee is the Success of " Ultimate Sin". Without is Genious this albun never would reach the " Greatness " Status. So Underrated this Magnificent Guitarist.

[@mikeg6666]

Absolutely agree , Jake is still the best guitarist to replace Randy after he passed. There's no comparison , he blows Zakk away. I wish he could have stayed with Ozzy for more albums , the last good album from Ozzy was No more Tears. Everything after that is mediocre because Zakk doesn't have the creativity of Jake IMO!

[@MetalHeart8787]

That Album is Awesome & i became a Fan in 1986 so it's special to me. i did a review for it and don't mind others & even Ozzy don't like it. the Songs are Very Good. he says it was poppy? well it's better than #9

[@mikeg6666]

@@MetalHeart8787 Everything is 😅 That was a good album , I actually liked it better than Bark at the Moon. But nothing will touch his first two masterpiece albums. I was lucky to see his Diary tour in 81 , I was 15 and had 16th row on the floor and when Ozzy came on we rushed the stage and got to the front row. It was my first concert , I was 15 and have seen him over 25 times since solo and with the original Sabbath...

[@jpmtlhead39]

@@MetalHeart8787 in my opinion the 2nd best Ozzy Album. 1st "Blizzard of Ozz", obviously. PS: in "Blizzard of Ozz" was Randy Roads that single handed created and helped Ozzy to Rebirth from Oblivion with this Masterpiece. In "Ultimate Sin" Jake E.Lee was able to bring back (Again) Ozzy to the Spotlight.

[@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle]

Jake and BOB, Jake even said Bob had a way to make good songs great.....and he knew the Randy blueprint that helped jake

[@mandalorian23]

I love The Ultimate Sin from start to finish.

[@topfloorstudio2684]

2:00 Ozzy himself said it's the Ozzy / Jake album! I've never seen this before, thank you!!

[@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle]

that's funny because he never went back and gave Jake credit for BATM and if he wanted to slap the brand on the album based om who worked harder and more, Ozzy's name would be last or not appear at all

[@JoeZaccaris]

I was 15 when I went to the mall to buy this album --- came home and cranked it over and over --- sweet memories of my 80's youth !!

[@TheBoondoggler]

Jesus what a soap opera. love it!

[@christabor8662]

I remember practicing and playing guitar like a fiend back then with my bands. Hoping someday maybe I’d get a shot to play for dio, or ozzy etc. after hearing from these guitarists about getting screwed I’ve just lost respect for their sorry , greedy singer behinds. 😂

[@Jimmy_the_blake]

Good video. George Lynch would have murdered Ozzy. That "recent interview" with Nevison was with Andrew Dicecco of Classic Vinyl writer.

[@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle]

what does that mean, geoege got the short end of the stick

[@ddguitars1969]

I love the ultimate sin. Agree it should be remixed as it sounds too LA. Jakes guitar work on that album is off the scale.... So much work must have gone into the solos alone

[@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle]

what scale is Rhoads' work?

[@Albee213]

I love this record, the music, the riffs and production are awesome. The problem is Ozzy's vocals, while not bad at all, they sound like he was un-inspired. But still, it has some of the best songs ever released by Ozzy.

[@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle]

good album awesome songs bad production and too poppy sounding

[@markn3936]

I think if Sharon wasnt such a terrible person Jake and Ozzy could have been a good team.

[@sackson2025]

Not very likely. Ozzy and Jake merely tolerated each other at best. They were not friends.

[@patrickmoreau7592]

I liked the Ultimate Sin a lot

[@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle]

Last night a buddy of mine, listened to the 4 demos of: The Ultimate Sin (originally called Another Chance) Never Secret Loser Killer of Giants No keys and produced by Chris Tsangarides, says it is blows away the Ron Nevison produced version and the label screwed over the fans by imparting their direction. Says Killer of Giants, the way it was originally recorded is mind blowing

[@ConcertFootageNate]

I have had Thr ultimate sin on cassette and vinyl for many many years apparently the Vinyl is pretty expensive these days, I like the ultimate sin album a lot now and did when I bought it as a kid..Jake is a bad ass..Period!!

[@AceGibson1959]

11 month world tour. Brutal man, just brutal.

[@thomaskinne2357]

Without Bob Daisley, is definitely a joke.

[@thomaskinne2357]

One sure can dig why Jake wouldn't care to show up. If he had publishing. . . . . . . . . Pfffffft, even on just "Bark At the Moon" let alone, "No More Tears" & whatever else, he probably would have some $. One truly gets a feeling for how rapacious that t**t Sharon is. I mean, who other than Zakk, has actually hung?

[@Biden_Cult_Morons]

​@@thomaskinne2357.. Zakk must be a total yes man. It's the only thing that makes sense of why he lasted so long

[@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle]

@@Biden_Cult_Morons Zakk is a strange and unique case, he feels some sort of weird loyalty.....cannot explain it, they tried to screw him over too when he was fired in the late 2000s and they actually approached Jake to come back

[@mojopin70]

I don't know why Jake said they recorded in Scotland. They recorded at ridge farm in Surrey England!

[@JoeyArmstrong2800]

Imagine the trainwreck had Ozzy not surrounded himself with talented musicians?

[@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle]

Yes he'd sound pike his last two albums mediocre He really lucked out

[@fromalongtimeago]

He didn't! Sharon, Dana Strum and others put those players around him.

[@JoeyArmstrong2800]

@@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle He really did. His first 5 solo albums is like an all-star cast of metal musicians. I'm glad they're now getting the credit for the work they did.

[@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle]

@joeyleverton6800 ozzy is a fraud on many levels...he lucked out with musicians. Especially Randy and Bob.

[@JoeyArmstrong2800]

@@fromalongtimeago Meaning the Ozzy camp. He's a walking disaster on his own clearly.

[@wantsome-zs5sq]

Ozzy was hair metal in 1986

[@MrUltraworld]

Ozzy didn't write the music, he didn't write lyrics, yet it was called Ozzy Osbourne. Smh.

[@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle]

it was called Blizzard of ozz until Steve Machat mistakenly changed history by signing only Ozzy to CBS......Ozzy "solo artist" laughable

[@WillWilsonII]

Remember when Ozzy was famous and Sharon wasn't?

[@theadjuster151]

Absolutely brother 👊💥💯

[@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle]

we all wish we could go back to that time and stop her

[@jayteesgear]

Bloom, these literally light up my Weekend Mornings! 🔥 I firmly believe EACH persons story here 💯. If Ozzy wasn’t crazy I dont think those somgs would’ve come out as amazing! I would definitely love to hear that album Remixed- That was my only issue with it. Too much high end but then again- maybe it wouldn’t rock if it was perfect to a musicians ears?

[@fullinbloom]

Boom! Always enjoy hearing from an old school subscriber. Thanks for sticking around.

[@joepipe1010]

Great album 🎉❤

[@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle]

it is good but it is not Diary of a madman

[@rumpoleonthehilloldchap]

the audio sounds like it recorded on a mobile phone.

[@windwarattack2300]

Killer...Thanks

[@NotMorganFreeman.]

When I was at my peak as an Ozzy fan, I always knew who was playing on which album. I had heard enough music rumors like this in the past. Everyone playing was a contributor in my opinion writing or not.

[@jeffbauer3425]

After this album, I never bought another Ozzy album ( didn't buy this one) One or two good tracks, that was it. (Not Jake's fault either)Hated the production, and all his albums sounded similar after . The first 3 were his best albums . And of course , Sharon screwed most the earlier musicians that made loser Ozzy's albums . 7:32

[@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle]

Darth Hideous ruined a great band ....she should be remembered for that

[@NotMorganFreeman.]

Blizzard of Oz, Diary of a Madman and Speak of the Devil, hands down the best Ozzy albums. I think No Rest for the Wicked was the last one I bought.

[@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle]

@@NotMorganFreeman. two of those aren't even Ozzy albums, they are Blizzard of ozz albums. Tribute is pretty darn good...

[@NotMorganFreeman.]

@@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle I did leave out Tribute didn't I. My mistake.

[@craiganderson6880]

Saw the tour great times Poplar creek in Illinois

[@flhxri]

My fav ozzy album

[@solomonsanchez1897]

The more I learn about how Ozzy was treated by his wife during the 80's, the more I think she's the best and worst thing that ever happened to him.

[@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle]

He used to hit her..tried to kill her. People can rip Sharkn, but ozzy just as bad.

[@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle]

@@LouisWinthorpe3 how people are not aware of their acts is sad

[@michaelmichaels138]

I’m pretty sure Dave Mustaine wrote several songs from Ozzys first two albums.

[@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle]

lame and insulting to Randy Rhoads

[@Gmanrushfan]

Ozzy is one of the luckiest men in the music business… To first be paired with Tony Iommi’s music and Geezer Butler’s lyrics and then link up with people like Randy Rhoads, Bob and Jake… and then get all the credit, fame and acclaim because he’s out front. To think, he was drunk or high most of the time while the other talented folks were putting in the actual work… Like a manufactured Pop Star.

[@lord_oblivion666]

Well, what Sharon said does make a lot of sense. When you're on stage, playing in an 80s metal band, you really should stand out from the crowd. That's why that era of music is the most glorious in the history of the heavy metal genre.

[@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle]

you do, on stage...everyone sees you. She is a lowlife POS. she was obsessed with image over substance. She lucked out that they found substance too.

[@NotMorganFreeman.]

It does make sense. You are there as a performer, not some hobo looking grunge band.

[@sabbathtribute]

I liked this album. A shame that later on the 86 tour , they started to saturate the sound with keyboards

[@theadjuster151]

And glam 😅

[@jackvai2681]

THAT'S 90% SHARON... DIRTY BUSINESS.

[@Robert-vs4sm]

The ultimate sin album is in my top 500 albums of All-time and songs on the album in top 1000

[@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle]

what point are you trying to make?

[@Jay-n262]

Ozzy can't even complete a sentence but he sold his soul and he's a vocalist;

[@rowdync]

I have always wondered what Randy got as far as songwriting credit, and publishing? Did Zakk get the same treatment or was he treated fairly?

[@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle]

he got the credit he was due. They never tried to screw him over because it was a band at first, so they had an agreement. Darth Hideous had it out for Lee and Bob and decided she wanted to paint them as hired hands

[@ChrisShortyAllen]

Sharon did his washing so he got a much better deal.

[@frankiemae1302]

Saw them at Uic Pavillion for that tour. Metallica kicked more ass than ozzy and his band. And Jake, I believe, was puking off the side of stage and ozzy called off the show early. Looking back, show was worth every penny seeing Cliff live before his passing. Rip

[@briancunningham9037]

I think a lot of these guys cannot remember exactly what happened (or just tell stories). Like they say Tommy left to join Whitesnake. Ultimate sin was recorded in like 85 and Tommy didn't join WS until late 86 at the earliest!

[@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle]

right, sometimes timelines get mixed up but the stories are consistent

[@DashdownMusic]

what a cool fucking track man!

[@SLloyd-p2x]

Ozzy used to be a hero of mine...that's before I heard all the interviews and what everyone had to say about him and his handler. So disappointing.

[@lorettahookano6139]

What a capital P, so unprofessional, irresponsible & immature, lost all my respect for Ozzy !

[@over-educated-sp]

Now that is truly an ultimate sin.

[@scottwhite2757]

Ultimate Din..🤘🏻

[@Foxentails]

Ozzy play it off like Ultimate Sin is a bad album because he glammed it up in the videos, but it's pretty damn good I think.

[@stanlee-eq7lu]

Before that, Ozzy totally screwed Jake. Jake never got any credits for Bark At The Moon. He put his foot down. He threatened to quit if Ozzy didn't give him credits for the next album, Ultimate Sin. Ozzy gave Jake credits.

[@dirkjewitt5037]

I don't know, I'm beginning to hate Ozzy. I already dislike Sharon. They treated music like it was KFC. Paid everyone about the same minimum wage too.

[@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle]

if you dislike or hate Sharon there is no way you can give Ozzy a free pass he is a lying backstabbing POS too he signed off on everything

[@MobiousDick-yu2ch]

Dio did same thing to Vivian Cambell...

[@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle]

on a smaller scale he never stole credit from Viv...

[@crackingbones]

The enslavement of musicians is a specialty of the imperial epidemic industry.

[@PlayerToBeNamedLater1973]

Eye roll

[@automatoncollectives7237]

Oh please. These musicians make a fortune on the road. Idiot

[@ctcards2636]

If i had to choose between Bark and Sin, id choose Sin. Im not a fan of Bark. I love Sin its a great record.

[@brian96597]

LOL... Larz is such a maroon.

[@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle]

It is a weird comment when it is not the heaviest Ozzy song

[@brian96597]

@ight_The_Rock_Oracle Not. Even. Close. My guess is Lars was star struck and not at all familiar with Ozzy's library.

[@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle]

@@brian96597 he sounds like was kissing ass.....Kirk would probably laugh in his face if he heard that, Kirk a huge Rhoads fans

[@davidbecker5169]

The only album that hasn't been reissued so that Sharon and Ozzy won't have to pay Jake. Also no songs from the album on the ESSENTIAL Ozzy best of.

[@radamus210]

It's interesting, some of the greats were the biggest assholes to live and work with - There's a poll there somewhere that could be tasteful, and educational. One of the worst that was always in the conversation was Blackmore. He was the star, he was always the star. That can be a problem at times, as with Ozzy for example.

[@gbarrancos1]

I love Ultimate Sin and the fact that its mostly Jake and Bob collaborating together explains it all. What pisses me of on the record is that the mixing is just horrible. Its so muddy sounding with reverb all over the place. Total agree with Bob that bass and drums lacked punch at the final product. I dream of the day they remix it. How long it will take to Osbournes settle whatever lawsuit they have with Phil Soussan over Shot in the Dark

[@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle]

interesting take by Bob, but the bass is virtually a non entity on this album and Randy's drum sound missing something

[@gscgold]

I was a huge Ozzy fan until the ultimate sin came out.. That was the last tour that I saw Ozzy after that I stopped listening to his new material

[@stm113]

The funny thing to me about the album is sonically it’s best of Ozzy’s 80’s stuff. The songs were more to my liking on Blizzard and Diary but sound wise Ultimate Sin is the goodest. But Ozzy shits all over the album

[@psychopoison]

Love the tracks but don't like the overall production

[@Jason-dm7nu]

Sharon and Ozzy dicked a lot of good musicians.

[@johndenson3107]

Besides the early solo records, I thought Ultimate Sin was one of his best..

[@bobbarlow5580]

That's me Bob

[@warmonger8799]

AWESOME

[@CrazyCooter-ld6sz]

Lee kerslake and Jake also had songs they contributed too.

[@automatoncollectives7237]

Randy was nothing but a disposable hired gun too. All the aforementioned were on paid salary with no contractual recourse... thus hired guns.

[@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle]

Randy had nothing to do with ultimate sin, you're not aware Jake E Lee played on ultimate sin us that who you meant?

[@automatoncollectives7237]

@@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle I extended the conversation. My comment stands.

[@automatoncollectives7237]

@@LouisWinthorpe3 Randy was definitely frustrated. The poor guy was on a paid salary, like all of the band mates. Ozzy cashed in as the rest of the band were paid a small income.

[@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle]

@@LouisWinthorpe3 except this incorrect. Randy was not a hired hand, there is a legal document that shows he was in a band with Bob Daisley and john Osbourne. And he was frustrated with having to do a live album of Sabbath covers. People need to be accurate here.

[@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle]

@@automatoncollectives7237 OK then you need to be corrected it is absolutely ignorant and false to say he was a hired hand. A hired hand does not get a tribute album with his name on it. And there is a legal document that shows there is a band called Blizzard of ozz with john Osbourne, Randy Rhoads , Bob Daisley and Lee Kerlskae, read the Steve machat book it is in there. So you are uninformed but now in the know. Randy was not even reduced to hired hand status when Ozzy got signed to CBS< Sharon went to him with a management fee structure to let him know how important he was, but he refused as he wanted out after one more album and tour. And here is the big thing that goes against you, if Randy were a hired hand why did Ozzy hit him when he told him he was quitting.

[@raygarrett354]

JAKE E LEE IS A MONSTER 🎸

[@fromalongtimeago]

Ozzy and Sharon are thieves. Ozzy should want to prove to everyone that he "wrote" the music. Pick up a guitar. Pick up a bass. Get behind a drum kit. Show us. Prove it. Just like The Rhoads-Daisley Band, and The Jake E Lee -Daisley Band, Ozzy didn't write shit!

[@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle]

yes they are lowlifes. Blizzard of ozz all legal documents substantiate that

[@patricktribett8208]

I thought the Ultimate Sin was great Ozzy didn't like it bc he didn't contribute to it.. Ozzy' only talent is picking great guitarists and robbing them of their writing credits.

[@adrianfleming3437]

More his wife actions

[@mattrock12]

@@adrianfleming3437exactly what he wants you to buy in to. Classic “good cop, bad cop” routine.

[@automatoncollectives7237]

@@adrianfleming3437 Nonsense. Don’t minimize it.

[@kimrice394]

Ozzys kids have wasted more $ at Starbucks than they paid the guitarist that actually made the music. F’n sad. I get the big picture, but hell they could have ave them a piece.

[@automatoncollectives7237]

Hired guns... including randy.

[@mhitson7483]

ozzy nominated as a solo artist in the rrhof without Jake and bob is criminal Best music channel on you tube

[@guillermo3564]

Yeah, RRHofF is such an ass kissing organization, it's pathetic. That's why you always hear bands say that it doesn't matter to them, but they want it for the fans. They truly don't care because the criteria is such bullsh*t.

[@ExcitedAnacondaSnake-hg8ec]

Ozzy nominated as a solo artist alone is criminal. What has he ever done solo wise that has any lasting value? The only reference that exists for him is Black Sabbath hence reuniting in the 90s when his trendy 80s anthems sounded passe

[@Powermad-bu4em]

Blizzard Of Ozz and Diary Of A Madman. Stupid fucking question.

[@robmitchell3864]

​@@Powermad-bu4emI don't know man. I ditched the old crap with that nasally whine. Bob's good melodies deserved a better singer... A REAL singer.😄

[@kevinaustin0369]

Unbelievable

[@Lyka-clock]

The Osbourne family has had a strange dark cloud of bad things happen to them. Now Ozzy is facing a horrible time in retirement after that accident and botched surgery. It makes you wonder if all that bad energy and greed came back to bite them in the ass.

[@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle]

some might say karma has kicked in

[@elinino5275]

Karma

[@Debra-k1f]

I don't believe in Karma......atleast not in this lifetime...

[@Emulous79]

A lot of one eye imagery throughout the cover art and music videos convinces me that some dark cabal or dark forces watching over them. Probably the ones throwing out all the vow of silence and Eye of Horus imagery in virtually all media these days, outside of what the public create on KZbin, for example.

[@seancowhie6951]

Karma

[@stubkar]

While an asset to the world of music, Ozzy was a greedy bastard.

[@rockerjim8045]

blame Mrs Munster for that.

[@mrpolitenessman3539]

When you head butt a base player right in the face to get rid of him , you pretty much know he is right there with her and has Gained Scumbag status.

[@00sinders]

Everyone calls out Sharon Osbourne for the way she treated those around at the time, and rightly so, but far too many people give Ozzy a pass for letting his bandmates get ripped off. Fuck him. I love what he did with Sabbath, but he's almost as bad as her for not at the very least retrospectively giving them their due money and credit wise, never mind not saying something at the time.

[@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle]

100% he should not get a free pass, he is a liar, backstabber and a POS. he tried to kill her, he used to hit her.....

[@SouthJerseyMatt]

Full In Bloom has the deepest dives into music lore ever

[@aslmx1918]

Great album. Still listen to it a lot

[@FreeMTrider]

Ozzy and Sharon……once they started making money…..greed. Pure greed. Like Ozzy said…”I want doe. I want lots of doe”. And Sharon all over the talk shows and red carpets being a millionare by someone else’s hard work. They would have never been on tv if not for the music made by others.

[@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle]

once they started making money, that's being generous to their level of douchebaggery

[@FreeMTrider]

@@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle good point. But the money sure made them worse.

[@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle]

@FreeMTrider someome told me, who's connected to them: when you have that kind of money it's never enough...

[@TMoody]

MONSTER record that still holds up very strong here in 2024.

[@babylemonade2868]

My favourite Ozzy album

[@DynoSauR4Truth]

I wish that Jake could get the money he was owed from the Bark at the Moon album. Completely robbed and Ozzy deserves whatever bad karma has come to him.

[@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle]

If ozzy gets inducted will he do the right thing and thank Jake and give him credit

[@scottgarber4558]

Jake got screwed in Badlands too by Ray

[@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle]

@@scottgarber4558 no he did not/.///it was Jake's band.

[@imaouima]

@@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle I'm thinking he means the whole A.I.D.S. thing.

[@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle]

@@imaouima that only hurt Ray obviously and he was out of the band by then

[@TommyTheCat42]

Ultimate Sin is such a great album! It brings me back to summertime when I was 12 and my older brother got the vinyl the day it came out. As far as Jake and Bob not getting any credit, that’s all Sharon. Ozzy was so messed up there’s no way he’s making any business or marketing decisions?!! No way, Sharon is a monster!!!

[@davefleming1117]

The album was FANTASTIC... my senior yr in HS.. wore that cassette out!! Jake severely underrated guitar player.. Ozzy was notoriously hard to work with...

[@Weshopwizard]

For real. Thats the only album in my Ozzy collection where all songs are on the phone.

[@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle]

@@Weshopwizard then get Blizzard of ozz and Diary of a Madman, if all of those songs are not on your phone you're wrong

[@flhxri]

@@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle🤣😂

[@southie3177]

@@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracleagreed

[@asnark7115]

@@Weshopwizard That's an easy fix.

[@jasonweinberg932]

It was an ultimate sin not to give Bob and Jake credits for the songs they were instrumental in creating, I heard Bob Seger gave credits to studio musicians he worked with at Muscle Shoals.

[@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle]

Ozzy and Sharon were thieves.....I mean to not pay Bob and have his name on the first 500K printing.

[@elinino5275]

Ozzy/Sharon scuumbaggs

[@jturquoise]

Yup

[@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle]

I find it amusing how many people are ripping the Osbournes...it is good to see

[@HallqvistOfficial]

Yep. The lyrics to Mr Tinkertrain hasn’t aged too well either..

[@thewhiteelephant]

This was the worst Ozzy wardrobe era ever.

[@Nashid-nc7fs]

Metallica opened and we're on master of puppets tour was a great show I seen Metallica with Cliff at Philly spectrum

[@FreeMTrider]

@@Nashid-nc7fsI saw Metallica twice on the Lightning tour. We had tickets for Ozzy/Metallica but it was rescheduled due to Ozzy’s “vocal issues”. Yeah right. Never believed that. Then the make up show was when Cliff was killed.

[@Nashid-nc7fs]

@@FreeMTrider Cliff was definitely the man

[@anti7928]

I got to see Jake with Ozzy a few times back in the day.. Jake was an awesome guitar player and should have been treated better..

[@totigerus]

I get the feeling that Jake basically received the Jason Newstead treatment.

[@WilliamClark-uj1uo]

I never got to see Ozzy with Jake or Metallica with Cliff. But I got to see Badlands w/Jake and Pantera twice w/ Dime and Vinnie.

[@Debra-k1f]

​@@WilliamClark-uj1uo Same!

[@clamdigr]

@@WilliamClark-uj1uo And you are a very lucky man! I didn't appreciate Dime or Cliff until it was too late to see them live. I did see Jake on the Bark tour (Motley Crue opened, lol). Awesome show, Jake OWNED the stage. Man, those were the days. \m/

[@algrundau9441]

Viv Campbell says the same about Dio.....But to be fair, BOTH Jake and Viv became overnight guitar heroes, got Guitar Player Magazine Covers. endorsements and a platform to do there own thing. Life was not totally terrible. MILLIONS of shredders around the world would have gladly switched places.....Viv continued on and to this day tours stadiums with Def Leppard.....Jake took over a decade off and quit playing completely.....I guess it depends on what you do with your opportunities?