Pin Risk Explained - Always Close When Trading Options!!

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Jake Broe

Jake Broe

Күн бұрын

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@JakeBroe
@JakeBroe 3 жыл бұрын
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@thomasd5488
@thomasd5488 3 жыл бұрын
Last year I sold a call credit spread on SPY and didn't close it on expiration day because SPY was a few dollars below the short call at the closing bell. After hours SPY went up just enough for the short call to be in the money and I had a short 100 share position on Monday morning, and a margin call. The long call expired worthless. I had to buy 100 shares on Monday, at the current market price, to cover the 100 share short position. I was lucky, SPY was up only $1.50 so it only cost me $150 extra to buy the shares needed to cover the short position. A small price to pay for a lesson well learned.
@JakeBroe
@JakeBroe 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience Thomas! SPY usually isn't too volatile, but if you had 10x the contracts, then that loss would have been $1,500. It adds up when people get crazy with spreads.
@SamPhappalapa
@SamPhappalapa 2 жыл бұрын
This was extremely helpful, should be a mandatory part of getting approval to trade options. At 5:24 shouldn't it be "sell call, buy call at higher strike"?
@television1088
@television1088 2 жыл бұрын
Another reason, I once held a biotech put spread for 3 months, and made $10k in that time. The profit was maxxed out, but I decided to avoid the few dollars commission and just let it expire instead of closing it. In the last few days before expiration, they announced a breakthrough and my $10k profit dropped to $0.
@redpilldude8688
@redpilldude8688 Жыл бұрын
Dang…thanks for sharing tho. Solid lesson / advice
@eyobhagos4899
@eyobhagos4899 3 жыл бұрын
thank you for the explanation Jake!
@JakeBroe
@JakeBroe 3 жыл бұрын
You are very welcome Eyob! Cheers!
@Digitalgems9000
@Digitalgems9000 2 жыл бұрын
so this is why robinhood has the auto sellout feature on credit spreads and options. happens around 30 mins before lol
@olenaromanchuk2021
@olenaromanchuk2021 2 жыл бұрын
Makes sense! Always close the trade unless it is so obvious that both legs will be OTM by expiration, by that time, you spread will be worth less than $0.05!
@television1088
@television1088 2 жыл бұрын
Right, except for everything after "unless"
@Digitalgems9000
@Digitalgems9000 2 жыл бұрын
@@television1088 LOL
@karazya
@karazya 4 ай бұрын
Hi Jake, thanks for the info here. Couple clarifying questions about some of the important times you mention. Let’s take $SPY for example: Is the window for options expiring between the strikes an hour and half after close (5:30 PM ET) or 4:15 PM ET? I’m trying to understand if the hour and half time means that your short option can be assigned an hour and half after market close, or if the other party simply has an hour and half to decide whether to exercise or not if the short option is ITM between 4:00 PM and 4:15 PM ET. Hope that makes sense. Thanks for the help.
@eternalvinepress
@eternalvinepress 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I am new to Options Trading and this is great information and advice.
@moxiangmingxin
@moxiangmingxin 3 жыл бұрын
Very important info in the video, thanks Jake!
@JakeBroe
@JakeBroe 3 жыл бұрын
You are very welcome BN! Cheers!
@yogeshlinganna521
@yogeshlinganna521 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info, Jake. Very useful.
@JakeBroe
@JakeBroe 3 жыл бұрын
You are very welcome Yogesh! Cheers!
@PRHBxEaSyKill
@PRHBxEaSyKill 3 жыл бұрын
Yes 🙌🏽 excellent video, thanks for the info!!
@JakeBroe
@JakeBroe 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks JCee! Cheers!
@Jade-pf8dw
@Jade-pf8dw 2 жыл бұрын
This was really helpful - thank you
@JakeBroe
@JakeBroe 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers Bec!
@dukeyin1111
@dukeyin1111 9 ай бұрын
lol I heard all this wonderful things about butterfly and condors...where I have bounded loss. man this is extremely risky.
@JacksonWelch
@JacksonWelch 3 жыл бұрын
Wow this was an awesome video Jake
@JakeBroe
@JakeBroe 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jackson! I hope people find and watch it.
@jasonpermanna308
@jasonpermanna308 2 жыл бұрын
So that includes everything like ur investment and buying power liquidate to 0??
@jasonpermanna308
@jasonpermanna308 2 жыл бұрын
let say 17 put credit spread, can I just buy 17 regular put option in the money next week and exercise it?when pin risk happened.
@metamoonnn
@metamoonnn 2 жыл бұрын
another exception would be to let expire only if OTM for credit spreads (both legs), right?
@rickliconjr
@rickliconjr 3 жыл бұрын
Jake can you demonstrate how to close the one you exercised with Schwab?? Thanks!
@JakeBroe
@JakeBroe 3 жыл бұрын
Yep! I will make a video about closing those positions once I close them all!
@agimelman
@agimelman 3 жыл бұрын
for example you are trading vertical call spread - short leg in the money long is out of the money and you think it will expire worthless - an hour before market close I close a short leg but at the last second long leg goes into the money - what then?
@JakeBroe
@JakeBroe 3 жыл бұрын
If your short leg was closed... you are not liable to buy or sell anything to anyone. If your long leg then goes in the money, then you are the one who has to notify your broker that you want to exercise. Ideally you make money in that scenario.
@heesookim9578
@heesookim9578 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you^^
@JakeBroe
@JakeBroe 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks heesoo! Cheers!
@matthew7910
@matthew7910 2 жыл бұрын
So if I buy a call or out by itself, why don’t I have the risk of getting assigned with that?
@redpilldude8688
@redpilldude8688 Жыл бұрын
Correct. Buying means you have the right but not the obligation. You can only be assigned if you sold.
@PeterJames143
@PeterJames143 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@muffemod
@muffemod 3 жыл бұрын
I was here yo!
@JakeBroe
@JakeBroe 3 жыл бұрын
That you were! Cheers muffemod!
@ConanNYC
@ConanNYC 3 жыл бұрын
The video scared the hell out of me. Should be required watching for new bies
@JakeBroe
@JakeBroe 3 жыл бұрын
I agree Conan! Hopefully the algorithm will help people find it!
@television1088
@television1088 2 жыл бұрын
Stuff like this is the reason people consider option trading to be risky. It's only risky if you don't know the caveats.
@eduardazayev4230
@eduardazayev4230 3 жыл бұрын
Spy does not look like it's going to fall, crazy.
@JakeBroe
@JakeBroe 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah... the more it goes up, the less likely my trade will succeed even if there is a pullback on the 3rd Friday of the month. I can't believe the Fed announcing they will end tapering isn't getting more of a reaction.
@dwalker6868
@dwalker6868 3 жыл бұрын
Yay it was a Green Day for you/ us all
@JakeBroe
@JakeBroe 3 жыл бұрын
SPY keeps going up D! Make it stop, haha.
@ghost9pm407
@ghost9pm407 Жыл бұрын
The subtitles on this video make no sense. It's hilarious.
@headlibrarian1996
@headlibrarian1996 3 жыл бұрын
One of the reasons I trade cash-settled options like SPX and RUT.
@JakeBroe
@JakeBroe 3 жыл бұрын
Solid plan HL! Cheers!
@wingzero8986
@wingzero8986 3 жыл бұрын
heh, "whatever crazy stock you are trading" because only we are the crazy ones, not jake. never jake.
@JakeBroe
@JakeBroe 3 жыл бұрын
I get the crazies comments from people telling me that are trading spreads on GME, AMC, TSLA, and all these weird penny stocks. Those stocks give me heart burn.
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