LK vs Drambo for AUM MIDI Sequencing | haQ attaQ

[@JakobHaq]

👊🏼 BIG HUG and Shoutout to Dylan Paris ► kzbin.info/door/Yicqa83y7EVsMLRuIQ4q6A Dylans LK and AUM video ►kzbin.info/www/bejne/op2Vgo2Mjbxki6M . ⏰ TIME STAMPS ⏰ 0:00 What I need 1:36 Cred where it’s due 2:15 Why LK isn’t for me 3:08 Drambo & AUM MIDI setup tutorial 10:08 LK vs Drambo - Differences Previous AUM video AUM MIDI Sequencing | I do NOT do this | haQ attaQ ► kzbin.info/www/bejne/opCZhn1uhNirhsk . UPDATED INFO So beta testers for LK are telling me that support for controllers are in the works. Also, Drambo testers are telling me that a piano roll is in the works.

[@stonelark]

LK now has MIDI learn and MIDI triggering. Works great!

[@ImaginandoPt]

Let's make it happen then! :)

[@JakobHaq]

Haha, yes! 👊🏼😍

[@thebluesbumrocknroll]

One thing is very important for me is ability to export and import midi files even in auv3 and both standalone modes, so it can share information with other daws. I see the file system is not open for moving or using files by user. Please add this also your to do list if possible.

[@ImaginandoPt]

@@thebluesbumrocknroll we will have a look into that. Thanks for your feedback!

[@tahiche.]

That’s why they call them “influencers” eh?. 😃 Great news!

[@thebluesbumrocknroll]

@@tahiche. in my experience imaginando guys has good custommer relations eventhough i am not an “influencer” 😂 But i guess jacop really is. He has good influence though 😀

[@DylanParisMusic]

Thank you so much for the shout-out and the constant inspiration, Jakob! Love your work!

[@JakobHaq]

Your channel deserves some growth Dylan. You’re doing great work bro! 👊🏼

[@wojciechdomagalski3962]

Haha dude, welcome to Drambo family proper!!! Drambo will have independent tracks in the sequencer soon so you can have different track lengths. Also piano roll is on the roadmap.

[@JakobHaq]

Wow, I’ve seen a lot of people request different track lengths so that’s awesome. Piano roll too? Jarek is crazy! 😍

[@BananaJuice1984]

Whow, so i‘m very happy to brought drambo. It‘s suche a cool and easy to handle app. If i. COuld use my novation launch control with it, i would be so perfect that i delete many small apps and learn to realyse it with drambo. Sfx, sequeencer, synths by example, and i can use au3 in drambo or drambo as au3 . Very. Flexible.

[@senhorlampada]

Funny thing about revisiting your videos is when you see that we have 2 awesome devs and the 2 apps are updated and the differences start to blur out between them 😀 And on a side note... There are some of us from the Audiobus forum that actually use LK inside Drambo, creating the coolest duo 🥰

[@pianoyan]

Nice shout out for Dylan Paris. Already subscribed, and I’d recommend his channel. Like Jakob, he's not afraid to be critical when it’s warranted.

[@DylanParisMusic]

Thank you! I am so beyond honored to be shouted out here!

[@SEONNTHAPRODUCER]

Whoa, that AUM trick is awesome. Thanks for highlighting it.

LK actually supports several midi controllers which make it possible to create and perform music without looking at your iPad’s screen. I tried LK with Akai APC keys 25 and Launchpad X and it works perfectly. The best thing is that you don’t need to do any midi learning, it works automatically.

[@JakobHaq]

Thanks for the info. It’s good to hear that some hardware controllers are supported. However I prefer midi learn because I don’t have to get a specific controller, I can just setup any controller with that system. Very often I end up wanting to set stuff if differently for one or two controls/buttons and then MIDI learn is gold to have. . Take the NanoKEY controller for instance. There is a native mode for it that allows it to work with KORG Gadget. But I never use the native mode because some of the knob controls are mapped in a way that is unintuitive for me. So I have to do my own mappings. This is why I prefer working with midi learn.

@@JakobHaq these are valid points. Flexibility is always preferred. The good thing is that it looks like your video hit Imaginando the good way, so MIDI learn is on their radar now :)

[@MeerkatMuzic]

Non and 1 winner ! 😀 Both LK and Drambo are currently being updated at a hell of a pace I’m on both betas so both are good choices. Don’t forget 4 Pockets Midi Mixer now has remote control. If you own an external MIDI controller/mixer which is capable of sending MIDI CC/Note messages you can enable remote control and have direct control of MidiMixer using your hardware. To use this feature you must be able to configure your external controller to match the settings in MidiMixer. For instance incoming CC7 data on channel 1 controls fader 1, incoming CC7 data on channel 2 controls fader 2 and so on. These settings can be modified using the 'MIDI Settings' dialog. So the options now inside AUM for hardware support mapping etc is crazy, can take you longer to set up a midi session than actually jam ! with all these layers tools combining.

[@JakobHaq]

That’s why I like MIDI learn. You can set it up once, save and then work of that as a template. I do not enjoy having to go to a laptop/desktop computer to re-configure a controller like I’ve had to do with the nano’s and IK iRig Pads for instance. It’s a huge wall to climb when one just wants to be creative. Like you say, you end up not making music 😂😅 Midi learn really solves that.

[@seanhenriques808]

dude..why is it every time I watch a video I wind up BUYING something? You are such an expert teacher. I always get excited seeing how you have integrated some new piece of kit in your workflow.

[@CHONKERBOT]

I came here to see why I shouldn't pay to unlock the full version of LK only to go to buy it soon because the devs wrote down the feedback and started to work on the new features immediately. Hats off! If only was any feature for editing videos quickly as updating articles - I would add such a correction to make it actual and reward the dev's crunchy effort to make a better product for the community 🤖✨

[@johnhowardnardine6815]

I ALWAYS learn super valuable stuff on your channel! Your way of explaining is the best on KZbin.

[@cuezaireekaa]

time to revisit this app pleeease jakob! LK that is. please consider...

[@GregoryRiker]

Thanks, a very useful explanation of two different approaches to AUM MIDI recording.

[@JakobHaq]

I’m happy to help!

[@thebluesbumrocknroll]

Good thing with LK is that it’s using midi scenes together with midi tracks, and you can use it both as a midi looper and also as a daw to create your compositions. And it is working both standalone and auv3, which means you can load it in aum and make a part of aum automation. I like it but it has no tempo track and by that it is pretty smiliar to atom piano roll. In my opinion is possible to use with aum or audiobus 3 as a good alternative to standalone apps as cubasis 3. I do not comment about midi learn.

[@ImaginandoPt]

What do you mean by tempo track?

[@thebluesbumrocknroll]

@@ImaginandoPt in some daws like auria pro or nanostıudio 2 it is called as tempo track but in korg gadget ismiliar function is also availiable without assigning a track. It is simply ability to change tempo within a track. Which means tempo can change in diffeteny bars but not fixed for the whole song. In these daws there is a tempo assigned fot per project but it is possible to change tempo and time signatures over bars.

[@olafge]

As others already wrote, LK does already support some controllers and they keep adding new stuff to the app at a high pace. The problem is that the documentation is not being updated at the same pace. There is also no changelog splash screen. If I wouldn’t follow the LK thread at the Audiobus forum I wouldn’t know about the hardware support. This being said, the integration of the supported Launchpads is just great. They work almost exactly the same way as with ableton. You have the visual feedback with colors for the clip launching and you have a mixer page on the LP where you can set levels, mutes, solo, arm, etc. Anyway, you are right that MIDI learn would be also much appreciated.

[@JakobHaq]

You’re right, splash screen changelogs are great. That would be a good thin goth implement. The best thing about midi learn is that one does not need to rely on a specific controller (admittedly getting a launchpad to use with LK would be nice because if layout).

[@olafge]

@@JakobHaq I agree fully . It's always best to empower users to customize. Did you read their reply to you AB forum thread? I think you definetly trigegred something ;) forum.audiob.us/discussion/comment/905264/#Comment_905264 I must say that using my Launchpad mini mk2 with LK is the most fluent workflow with AUM I ever had. If you have a prepared empty scene in LK then you almost do not have to touch LK at all. Well, a MIDI learn for LK's undo would be great :)

[@ImaginandoPt]

Unfortunately, the day has only 24 hours and we need to sleep. Documentation is open-source. If we update the documentation everytime we make new features available the rythm of new features release drops to half. A changelog for LK makes sense. Something to consider for the future. Thanks!

[@jlnmyr]

This was an insightful glimpse into your process. Thanks for that.

[@blue.sunset]

Fantastic video. For me it´s important to have a Piano Roll because I don't have much ability to play the keys and at any time I need to edit some notes. I think that many other musicians need this feature also. Perhaps Drambo will add a Piano Roll in an upcoming update and LK will introduce MIDI CC in an upcoming update as well. If this happens it will be very advantageous for any IOS musician. Cheers!

[@frankyoop8098]

Which cable use to connect ipad to controller?

[@nast096]

Hi Jakob, any idea where I can get PPG Phonem, its not available for sale anymore? I need this plugin very much

[@murmurelamusique]

thank you jakob. very helpfull.

[@DIGOOfficial]

Came for the knowledge drop, watched video 3 times, due to the comedic timing. DyingInside, "Now if you're making music that sounds this awful, don't stop, keep going until it sounds good". XD Quality stuff again Jakob, keep up the great work \m/

[@JakobHaq]

🥰

[@timschannel247]

Hi Jakob, thanks I learned a lot here. Drambo is the mega killer. It is a new experience. Thanks for giving the tip!! VS Apart from that LK I used 3 times and never ever again that mess sucks. Guys, watch out, LK is expensive and they try to sell parts of their app each for its own price. So if you like to have a silly midi keyboard on LK? Guy you have to pay extra.. no joke.. Furthremore they re using this buggy LK Bridge App you need to connect to ableton live (What kind of misconception, as normal MIDI over LAN would even work fine without that. As a resullt: LK = They want your Money and put holes in small wood!VS. Drambo = Is like Rambo for musicmaking, it is the Mac Gyver . Go Drambo Go! LOL! Best Regards

[@nathanbryers]

Bloody charming. It’s so lovely

[@JamieMallender]

LK is on my list of things I must explore. It may work great for me because I don’t own any hardware. I bought Drambo on Christmas Day but haven’t opened it yet. I’m looking forward to the adventure but have been putting my free time into KZbin - and have finally passed 1000 subs. Both apps deserve an investment of time and I have a list of apps I’ve promised developers I’ll make videos for so I need to catch up a bit before I start learning either.

[@JakobHaq]

Considering the fact that Drambo can be used as an FX plugin, there’s loads of distortion and weird fx you could build for your guitar sessions. 💋

[@JamieMallender]

@@JakobHaq hmmmmmmmmmmm........ sounds like a magic hole I might never climb out of. 😂

[@mannietheart]

Thank you for this. I've been looking for a good sequencer for live performing. I'm gonna check out drambo now.

[@seazenbones6945]

Honesty is the best policy. Excellent tutorial. Thank you.

[@JakobHaq]

Thank you for watching!

[@MyAlteredSoul]

This video gave me the info I needed to get LL setup and I praise you. :-)

[@Farmatique]

Thanks for the video, Jakob! Personally I can say that I fell in love with Drambo at the very beginning. And just like you I was obsessed with idea of "how-to-make-it-work-with-my-controller". I had Akai APC40 mk2 at that moment, so I tried to marry them together. All I can say is that they work flawlessly together! I can assign knobs, buttons, triggers, etc as I like. Apart from that, there`s a very cool thing that you can send MIDI from Drambo to APC40. That means that I`m able to make some kind of visual feedback, i.e. light up Solo, Mute, Rec, Active Track buttons and even light up Pads according to the Pattern that is currently playing. Not to mention other cool features of Drambo, like modularity, presets library, etc. Drambo is a killer! 👍 Finally I`ve bought a NANOKEY/NANOKONTROL recently (they were at my "wanna-buy"-list for about last few years), but haven`t try yet to run them to control Drambo. BTW, why are you using NANOKEY/NANOKONTROL in wired-mode? Any advantages of that?

[@JakobHaq]

I’m using them wires for power because I don’t want to waste regular batteries when I’m just using them at home. Ive even started using USB batteries while I’m out and about with them too.

[@Farmatique]

@@JakobHaq Got it! Thanks for reply 🙏 Personally I use rechargeable NiMH AAA-batteries for them, run about 3 hours (maybe even more), but of course you need to worry about the charging those batteries with additional AAA-charger. But yeah, wired-approach to avoid using batteries makes sense to me 👍

[@SharifKerbage]

I’m more into controllers, so i’d prefer this Drambo+AUM workflow. Can’t wait to try it out with my nanoKontrol. Thanks! Really informative and to the point, as always! You’re awesome

[@tkelly19321]

Hey Jakob - great video. I’m one of the beta testers for Atom Piano Roll 2.0, and I can tell you this is going to be a great tool for your midi looping workflow - especially when paired with a novation launchpad. you can set all kinds of crazy trigger conditions, and trigger by midi note / midi cc. It should be out soon.

[@JakobHaq]

Wow, so it looks like LK, Drambo and Atom are getting some pretty sick upgrades. What a great start to 2021! 🥰

[@royor3]

Ahhh.. the power of Drambo shines through.. there’s so much it can do.. and then it can simply get out of the way + let you get on with making music.. 🎸 🥁 🎺 🎹 Isn’t that the whole idea? I love this combo of hardware + software.. I really need to try a similar setup with my older Novation Remote 37 SL.. Thank you Jakob for sharing your workflow here + for the nudge to get me to try it too.. 👍

[@tapsy]

First of all, amazing stuff as always! Thank you! Midi controller of choice for 2021?

[@JakobHaq]

Not sure to be honest, the year has just begun and I haven’t seen any new ones for this year. If I could wish for one, I’d want what I already have, nanoKEY STUDIO but improved heavier version with metal housing and more connections.

[@tapsy]

I totally agree. Seems like the thing can do everything. But is overpriced for the quality that you get, compared to, for example, what Arturia makes.

[@JakobHaq]

I’m getting the KORG SQ64 and it looks as if it has a metal housing. I wish they could revise the nano series for that too. Yeah lot more sturdy. I haven’t owned any Arturia controllers yet but I also am going to get a best step at some point.

[@tapsy]

@@JakobHaq nice! I can only say good things about Arturia. Both their products and the company itself.

[@MonitusMusic]

Now I know how to use Drambo the proper way. Many many thanks for this!!!

[@TheSupersly76]

Another great video that makes perfect sense. Many thanks again.

[@AndyChannelle]

My simple solution was to set up a Korg Gadget session with 8 Taipai's mapped to Korg Controllers, then map to whatever is in AUM. Means you can do midi loops, automation, and go back to edit all the mistakes afterwards. The only pain point is remembering to save the files with the same names so you can go back to them later.

[@spencexxx]

Always good videos

[@galeftube]

Great vid, I use LK

[@DeconTheMonkey]

Great information as always! I always love the idea of physical controllers cause im a guitarist but when i moved to using the ipad as a musical recording tool i’m setting aside my physical instrument (controller) brain to just using the screen to do everything. It just helps me think differently about music in a different way.

[@JakeSweeper]

Personally, I'm kinda hoping that when Ableton releases an optimized Live build for the new Apple chips, a PadOS version of at least their Intro/Lite level of Live is released as well. It would be sweet as hell if I could use my favorite iOS synths in Live because the app makers are kind-of dragging thier feet in making those same apps available on the M1, (I'm looking at you in particular, Moog.).

[@krazywabbit]

Hi. Long time subscriber. I have GAS. I saw the Hapax and it’s out of my budget and felt I was missing out. I asked around and someone mentioned these two. Your video is exactly what I want to do. I have a couple of midi controllers. Will I be able to recreate the Hapax experience to a tee? No. But I can get the same feeling of touching and fingering knobs and not be so broke. Thank you.

[@Johnmb23]

um, I was expecting to see you load a certain new BASS synth but id didn't happen :( otherwise great video as always! on a side (2 sides) was that your natural hair color? it's the perfect anime color! can you change it like in AUM?

[@thechronicnoizeco.6675]

Can I import midi files into either?

[@SynthAddict]

nice - clear, useful, and entertaining :-) can you do a similar short video showing how you mapped/setup the nanoKONTROL Studio with Loopy HD? please please please...

[@nicolas_coffman]

Very insightful

[@Ansantari]

Great video! I'm finding myself a bit stuck though and could use some guidance. Looking at the variety of Midi sequencers out there I don't see anything for longer sequences like say a 10 minute long ambient piece with variation throughout the track. It looks like maybe a piano roll-type sequencer might be ideal for something like that. I could perform in real-time in aum for 10 minutes and record, but then it's a lot harder to go back and tweak things...but a 10 minute long sequence also seems overwhelming. Maybe this is a very newby issue. Any advice would be helpful ✌️

[@timjurie2769]

Hi Jakob. Awesome videos!! This one is exactly what I’ve been trying to setup with my Korg controllers. What is the minimum iPad model you would recommend for good performance? Would I need a pro with an M1 chip? Or would the older models be ok too? Also, can my AUM and Drambo purchases be used across both iPhone and iPad OS? Or would I need to buy them again for the iPad? Thanks!!!

[@JakobHaq]

Drambo and AUM are iOS universal apps that work for both iPad and iPhone. You buy them once and that’s it, as long as you’re using the same account across devices, you’ll have access to them. Not that many apps nowadays that one has to buy multiple times across different devices. Regrading minimum specs for an iPad, I really have no idea. I need more data basically. What do you intent to do? I usually tend to recommend getting the most powerful/new iPad one can afford. Take me for instance. I was stalking auction sites to be able to catch a deal. And back in 2020I did. I was able to get myself an iPad Pro 11” (256Gb) from 2018 for $500. That’s a steal and that iPad has carried me since. It’s still gonna be good for at least a year or two and could most likely work for longer. However, I have to upgrade soon since I’m making videos about mobile music making and it would be weird if I never talked about the M-series iPads. So whatever your budget might be, look into refurbished ones and or used ones. You could end up getting something really powerful for very little money. My final advice would be to not get an iPad that is older than 3 years. Also, the “consumer” iPads feel less powerful than a pro model. They’ve often got less RAM and too. An M1 pro might be awesome, however, the problem with both AUM and Drambo is that they are both very modular. One can do so much with them it’s not too hard to crash an M1 if one starts loading too many apps. Some apps are also are heavier on resources than others. It’s not a clear cut thing really and I haven’t found a good way of communicating this through my videos yet. 😅 I did a video a while back to show how different it can be between apps. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ip2vg4iaet-ondU A little bit of nerd info. 😅 A new M1 iPad is just as powerful as any desktop computer today. Problem is that many apps on iOS is still just running of 1-2 out of the 8 available cores in the processor. There are only 2-3 DAWs that support multi-threading and this is still something that developers need to catch up with. Hope this helps. 😅

[@tsvx_trading]

You can now midi map on Lk

[@FuZZbaLLbee]

Do want to see if LK also works with my launchpad pro MKI Drambo does have a piano role now.

[@aakash9058]

What about Drambo not recording sustain pedal input?

[@enrifretless]

Great video! have you tried Quantum sequencer app? if so, what do you think of this app?

[@Mardial]

the reason i using ipad is to make music in my bed. if i want to use controller i can sit on my pc desk. so LK is my choice i guess. at lest for now :))

[@issiewizzie]

Same here fine need to do anything composing to an end result I see it on my laptop and use logic

[@Lorichs]

As always a great video 😊. Cool workflow in Drabo i’ll tjeck that out. However cliplaunching is really my thing because it is a great way to explore and experiment wih different combinations of patterns. Also I think that the numbers of scenes in Drambo is limitted. But i deffenetly dig the workflow that you show in this video. And YES YES YES I’m super stoked about the colors in AUM 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼😃

[@lukerogers1440]

As you can host AUv3s in Drambo (right?), could this be done without AUM, but just using Drambo?

[@JakobHaq]

Yup, Drambo can host AUv3’s and it can even host itself. I’ll be making a video about that too at some point.

[@lukerogers1440]

Thanks Jakob, and thanks for all the great content you put out on KZbin. I’ve definitely learnt a lot from you over the years.

I initially bought LK because I saw it’s potential however I was unable to use it exactly because of the lack of midi learn. I ended up using several instances of Atom where I switch between them via Aum’s midi learn on by pass... Still I got the same problem: I am not able to remote control if the record loop is on or off - and this defeats the purpose of not having to open up the app and click a button :-( Thank you for addressing the problem with LK and thank you to Imaginando for listening :-) There seems to be light at the end of the rabbit hole ;-)

[@DavideBertola]

Base on your preference you may like the Synthstrom Deluge, although it's not "on topic" for your channel

[@JakobHaq]

The price is a bit above what I normally present but yeah I’ve been drooling over that thing believe me. 🤩

[@MultiMam12345]

Drambo as a midi sequencer needs proper midi cc recording/playback and editing automation afterwards, in the same way as LK does. Thats what i miss from Drambo. Current you cant record any cc in this setup which is a pain. A great midi looper also records playbacks any midi cc you throw at it. Like Photon or Mozaic Flow patch.

[@quinnzender]

Incoming CC can be converted to CV and recorded in the Flexi Sampler. So flexi is where you can store automation - which of course can be played back in sync with the pattern, or over many patterns. This works great if you have a knob controlling PAN. Just convert the incoming CC to CV with the [MIDI CC MODULATOR] module, the route that to flexi. Set Flexi record to 'pattern', and you're set. After recording is complete, route flexi to PAN - and your automation will be the same as played. As for Yes, its a workaround - but its pretty straightforward, and does work well. Editing won''t be the same with this method - but there are also more ways you can process and treat the automation with CV processors too. For example - you could play the automation in reverse, slice it, or scrub it fwd and back with an lfo.. The only other caveat is that Flexi recording length may not record long enough. I hear that the dev may increase recording length though.

[@Mamothmaniac]

Any tips on android devices/apps and (live) looping?

[@themusicolumnistmusictrave4071]

Hey brother ... Love your videos! I had a quick question and can't seem to find an answer on the Internet. I want to trigger a sample loop by pressing down a key on my keyboard controller. I then want to turn the sample off by pressing the key again. Basically one press on ... 2nd press of. Any advice? Thank you!

[@vio4jesus]

Thanks for a review that's honest.....

[@CreativeMusicGenius]

I'm with you, less time with my face and fingers in the iPad and more time with hands on instrument - Playing music

[@letssamplethis7641]

Jakob Haq - LK is not for me either. I really do enjoy using hardware controllers and sequencers. I have been looking for a good midi sequencer recorder to use with AUM. The best option for me has been using Korg Gadget with multiple instances of Taipei, one for each AUM channel. Yes, it’s a little bit of work to set up. That is why I saved an AUM template for this. Having nanoStudio and nanoKey Studio work natively with Gadget puts the whole thing together. You are completely buried in to your hardware and the only active screen is the Gadget screen. However, you do get a piano-roll you can edit whenever you wish. Thanks to your video I’m inspired to try a similar thing you did with drambo but with GR-16. Let’s see how that works. If at the end it appears that Drambo really is the easiest and most elegant solution to connecting your nano Studio controllers, I think you may have sold me on this software. I have been seeing a lot of good things with this app. Now that it can host AUV3 apps, this midi controller demo just sent me over the edge. Great job!

[@photaudiotech5550]

The only think missing in Drambo for now Is a piano roll and the record of automation (specially the sustain pedal !), LK has that. I found LK not easy to use the interface is not intuitive even after learning all the features.

[@ralis]

How do you sync you multiple iPads? I have an IPad mini 2 (drums-dm1), iPad 4 (live playing synths) iPad Pro ( backing tracks, recording) for example?

[@JakobHaq]

Use Ableton link! It’s connects over WiFi between apps that have Ableton link activated, directly between iPads.

[@EnriquePage91]

Before I even watch this, let me say LK is still a bit unstable but I’m on the beta and they update it very regularly. Here’s to hoping that eventually stops as it really is IMO the only issue with LK, I love it in any other way. But I’m also a super Drambo fan so.... I don’t know how I feel about this video 😂. And after watching...: I am pretty sure MIDI Mapping will come to LK eventually, and IMO the big difference here is how the "sequencers" work, IMO what separates LK from the rest is mostly it's Piano Roll. I've heard Piano Roll 2 is gonna be KICK ASS, so perhaps that will be a good alternative to LK's "timeline"/Piano Roll, but essentially I think LK is good when you want to use something like CUBASIS, but you would rather have that setup BE an AUM setup. Drambo is better for live sessions and actual sequencing as you point out; IMO LK is better for composing than it is for live looping *but it can live loop just like Ableton does, which in fact is a good tool for both sequencing and composing*.

[@EnriquePage91]

I actually use Drambo just like you do in here quite a lot too! My alternative is also a Mozaic script using the Pad View (16 pads) and then I make sure that whenever I press a pad, all of the midi sent to Mozaic is cast to that pad number channel (so 1 to 16). This way I can either tie Mozaic up to other controllers, including physical ones, and since you can make the pads on Mozaic blink and change colors, I get indicators of on which midi channel I am currently on (I also make channels blink whenever a note message is played). It's pretty nice and since once you code it it's there forever, it makes for a great companion to even Drambo itself for this workflow. Essentially, with Mozaic you don't get a sequencer to record into (which is why I always use Drambo for this anyway), but being able to switch channels like you do is pretty convenient so I make sure to set it up with Mozaic and then send those messages to Drambo to switch tracks. that way, I can have my Mozaic window on the forefront giving me a clear indication of all the things I mentioned earlier. It is perhaps unnecessary, but I love it XD. The advantage of using them both is you can play with the idea of pressing a controller to switch tracks in many ways. For example, maybe you could have all channels on drambo be sent through a specific channel (so re-routing the midi) with Mozaic, and then using the techniques you showed here, you could for example out of a single pad press on Mozaic, have all synths play the same track (which would be a combination of all of their independent tracks you are sending to it through Drambo). This little setup I use it a lot for like live session jams, since it can give you a lot of juice out of simple sequences of midi. When you combine multiple sequences into one, and send them to multiple instruments which were before playing their independent parts, it makes for a huge "boom" moment. IDK, just stuff like that. You could also have Mozaic intercept the midi data and for example move it an octave up or down in the process, or even both, why not? Stuff like this makes Mozaic an essential tool especially in combination with Drambo. It really isn't THAT hard to script stuff in Mozaic. It maight take a little while to get used to it but once you start really getting into it you realize just how much stuff it can do for your live setups. Stuff that not even Drambo would be practical for, and I am a huge Drambo fan especially for stuff like sequencing external gear or using it as a "brainbox" for my sessions, so trust me Mozaic really is worth checking out if you don't mind learning a bit of programming (or if you already know how to program). Ultimately I think what's important to remark here, is the importance of using MIDI Messaging properly to accelerate your workflow. The incredible thing about tools such as Drambo and Mozaic is precisely that they let you take a lot of control when it comes down to defining WHAT you want them to do, and how. If you are looping in AUM, this is a MUST KNOW way of working imo. I spent months trying to figure the steps out, but once I laid it down, I was perfectly fine working on my phone. I barely ever needed to actually touch the screen. Now, when it comes to Drambo's ability to MIDI Map things so simply, well.. there is little to be said about this other than, it is an invaluable tool especially for setting things up quickly like you just did on this video. Besides, once you set that Drambo control thing up, you can always just save it as an AUM session preset and the next time you wanna use that workflow you just need to swap the synths and reconnect them to Drambo through the Matrix. pretty simple stuff that will get you up and running in a matter of seconds! And all your gear will work with it! So no need to do this countless times (everytime you start a project essentially). But ANYWAYS.... HAQ! I do have a question.... you used your NanoKey ARP, is that arp running the native Nanokey Clock? Or are you sending MIDI Clock from AUM to it? I have tried to send MIDI Clock to my NanoKey but it never gets it. I cannot use the arpeggiator function unless I use their native clock which I do not want to use. If you know how to set this up that would be a nice comment to read :P.

[@JakobHaq]

I’m experiencing the same thing as you. Only works in Native mode.

[@JakobHaq]

It’s annoying I know 😓

[@EnriquePage91]

@@JakobHaq that’s too bad I was really hoping you knew something special...! My AKAI MPK-II had no issues with this, too bad Korg missed this feature because even their pc editor offers to switch it to “receive clock” mode, so idk what’s wrong.

[@unkatom]

So... I opened up LK in AUM and found only the “record” feature not covered my MIDI, you can set the controls via the “preferences” (its not automatically set-up and no “learn” yet either). Imagine likes to hide stuff in the shift-key access menus. The “tacked on” feeling might be due to LK being designed as a controller for Ableton Live originally... adding a controller probably never occurred to the developer until they made the MIDI clips.

[@JakobHaq]

Turns out that the app has support for controllers like launchpad for instance. I don’t own such a controller and the app didn’t have any controller support for any of my controllers. But the dev has now commented here with the phrase “let’s make it happen”.

[@unkatom]

@@JakobHaq YES!! I was a little concerned when i opened the menus and saw “NT 0” on all the controller settings... so they have whole templates available!! Thats very delightful! Who knew LK was so in top of things? (DJs i guess?) Looking forward to seeing how you’ll like LK once you get the Korg templates!

[@tahiche.]

One big point not mentioned would be doing a song, where you switch patterns on multiple instruments at once. I guess you could do that with scenes in Drambo, but you wouldn’t be able to treat each instrument separately. In LK, being Clío based, you have a lot more flexibility and variations to actually make a song with different parts in AUM. Also, it might be obvious but Drambo and LK are not excluding, you can trigger Drambo patterns from LK. Here’s a song I made live with AUM and LK, I use Drambo for drums and guitar stems. I don’t think it’d be as flexible (or even possible) with just Drambo. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oaGYhniIhrJqn9k

[@fridmanator]

With the Laumchpad pro control LK seamlessly

[@electronicmusicartcollective]

thanx

[@Steve.Dennis]

I’m new to using MIDI controllers. With limited knobs/buttons, anyone got any good tips on what I should aim to control with the hardware, on the assumption trying to assign something to every control is unrealistic and impractical?

[@DoctorMems]

LK has a cc midi mapping

[@JakobHaq]

Yes, they added that after this video was released. 👍

[@random9q]

Hey... Does Drambo allow saved configurations for learned MIDI configurations? Just thinking aloud... I kinda hope both apps learn from one another’s strengths.

[@quinnzender]

Yep - all mappings saved per project. Nothing stopping you from creating different templates with different assignments pre mapped :)

[@JakobHaq]

Yes, but it saves those settings with your projects. I’ve made myself a basic project with a lot of stuff all ready mapped out. So I load that, save as new and keep working from it when I start something new.

[@random9q]

Aii... Got it. So it’s, at present, project contained rather than being like a color palette or preset one can trade around between projects. ( Hey, devs? You listening in? ;-) Next version, maybe? )

[@iliavr]

Just want to confirm that Drambo now has piano roll and clip launching

[@raysubject]

i'm using iOS exclusively for music making since 2010 .. do you know what ? I realised that for pure HW jamming for me it works best when i completely put iPad away ... in my case, after i purchased Digitat and Digitone and put iPad completely away for live jamming, i started finally deeply enjoying live dawless jaming :-) I think when you like Drambo, you would totally love Digitakt/Digitone, it's really amazing also for midi sequencing of other synths ...

[@JakobHaq]

I’ve been convinced in on several occasions that digitakt would be my thing. It’s just that I’ve had to prioritise my gear purchases. But I still intend on getting one at some point because that machine seems amazing to me.

[@jakastrojansek5983]

Any good similar app for android?

[@quinnzender]

FWIW, clip launching is coming to Drambo too - confirmed by the dev ;)

[@JakobHaq]

No way, that is so awesome! 😍

[@quinnzender]

@@JakobHaq Check the thread you posted for this video on AB - a beta tester just posted Drambo's update roadmap. Soooo good.

[@JakobHaq]

Ooooh! Thanks! 👊🏼👊🏼👊🏼

[@JakobHaq]

Yeah that list is making me drool!

[@seanleeduncan]

What's LK like compared to Gadget 2?

[@JakobHaq]

I would not compare Imaginando’s LK to KORG Gadget. LK is a MIDI sequencer and controller app only. It does not have any sound generating capabilities of its own. It only produces MIDI data (Note, CC# etc) which one can use to control other instruments (Synthesizers, Samplers, Drummachines). Gadget is a Sequencer with built in instruments. . KORG Gadget compared closer to DAW’s and other music production software: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mGLMn6Rvfp17nbc . While LK lies in MIDI app territory: kzbin.info/www/bejne/opCZhn1uhNirhsk

[@seanleeduncan]

@@JakobHaq Thanks😊

[@elrealizador]

Do you imagine? Te imaginas? 😄

[@DanielSamulewiczXXI]

Afterthought: Maybe it’s possible to work Drambo together with Lk having best of two worlds?

[@MrMallum]

You know you can instantiate Poison or whatever in Drambo right? Why are you using AUM as a medium?

[@nyambe]

Is that still the case?

[@JakobHaq]

Yea it is and thank you for asking. I have however changed my mind about sequencing apps inside AUM. It’s something I do a lot nowadays, but I use other types of apps for this type of workflow. I did this video a little while ago about some fav sequencer apps I use: kzbin.info/www/bejne/r3nHoo2Jj7hrirsfeature=shared . And I later made this one about some other sequencer apps and their creator: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iWiudKuFhMZ4ptkfeature=shared

[@johnshmuck8897]

Lk now has MIDI learn

[@PoppaDocRocks]

The iOS OG Wizard

[@JakobHaq]

😘😘😘

[@PoppaDocRocks]

Lol. You pull it off though.

[@wojciechdomagalski3962]

But yes, working directly on the screen is great when you’re working while commuting but when you’re home or on stage midi controllers are non-brainer. For me Samplr is always on the screen if I help it, everything else relegated to physical knobs and keys. Peace. Fleksi

[@corsegerspwnd]

BooP BEEB BOOP BOP BooP BEEB BOOP BOP BooP BEEB BOOP BOP BooP BEEB BOOP BOP great song 8 outa 8

[@JakobHaq]

😂

[@audiblevideo]

#DyingInside 😂😂😂

[@wojciechdomagalski3962]

Drambo roadmap has just been published on forum.beepstreet.com/discussion/1105/drambo-roadmap#latest

[@tamirmeirraz7522]

Great comparison! Now how about GR16 vs Drambo. This time the laugh from your jokes is painful so I won’t watch your until I recover from the surgery operation =)

[@dafingaz]

Yo

[@olivierviala6655]

Fuckin helpfull thanks a lot

[@JakobHaq]

My pleasure!

[@bucketofbarnacles]

FYI: LK now has MIDI Learn.

[@andreaslowing631]

@kickbackcouture @jelie303 haha check this dude he’s a dope producer that does iOS tutorials, have fun ;)

[@mikabreto]

Anyone still using Modstep in 2021?

[@KrumpusPlunk]

and drambo sequencer is not for me ;)

[@BananaJuice1984]

If i want pianoroll i use cubasis 3 🎹🙂