The 9Barista Espresso Machine Review

[@9Barista]

James, Thank you for taking the time to make this impressive, thorough review. It's great to hear you have good words to say about our machine! One small thing - the ideal brew time is between 3 and 6 minutes. Any time in this window is ideal. Not just 6 minutes as you mention. Also - if you're careful, you can grind and tamp your coffee whilst the boiler is warming up. That allows you to get the cycle time to ~4 mins. Will & the 9Barista team

[@TheFBalint98]

​@@BlueHen123 Is this comment a joke? It's not quite appropriate for a joke, but it might be even worse if you're serious.

[@Grotomode]

@@BlueHen123 I think we have a case of a troll that wants to mock the BLM movement. Try harder.

[@brianbuday8639]

Nick Nicholson you appear to be another person who wakes up daily looking for to be offended . Seems like a pro tour for some. Definitely NOT chill 💥

[@Grotomode]

@@brianbuday8639 Are you sure you are replying to the right person? Would you care to explain how Nick Nicholson's comment is them looking to feel offended?

[@SantiagogranadosR]

Sooo out of place....!!!!! Enough already!!! Have a coffee and let us be!!!

[@wilhelmtaylor9863]

I'm a recently retired mechanical engineer. My major at University was thermodynamics and compressible fluid flow. Lots of thermodynamics here and the steam certainly qualifies as a compressible fluid. I got on the website and studies the cross-section view. I'm impressed. As always one tends to think "why didn't I think of that?" Kudos.

[@mndlessdrwer]

One of the best compliments to give another engineer is to say that you wish you had been the one to think of that. Because it really shows that you value the accomplishment they've made with their design.

[@9Barista]

Thanks Wilhelm. What a lovely complement. That'll keep us smiling for a while!

[@horseshoe_nc]

As a machinist, I'm impressed with the workmanship and engineering involved with this brewer.

[@rishikaushik8307]

"compressible fluid", isnt that just gas?

[@wilhelmtaylor9863]

@@rishikaushik8307 → Steam is the vapor form of water, i.e., a gas.

[@Houndzee]

After watching these videos I don’t think I’ve ever had a decent coffee...ever.

[@bigkamran]

Gaskets need to be replaced regularly which is not available

[@stevoblevo]

@@bigkamran they send you a replacement for both gaskets. seems as though they expect you to burn em while learning/dialing it in. also, I have yet to make a good one. still working on it. and i have no idea how to tell if the gaskets are spent.

[@level420]

Quality is subjective

[@CoreanShorts]

@@bigkamran i went through through my first gasket the first month but only because I forced open w/o pressing the pressure release valve. On my second gasket now for 5 months with no issue - Just need to make sure to cool and release pressure right away after each use.

[@JurisJurisPrudence]

I know

[@andreismithnow]

"They say 20g of coffee but I prefer 19g" God I love this man.

[@jacekostrowski7044]

I believe I heard something like 18.5...

[@richardsondaniels9968]

Coffee grammage differs with type of coffee brewing methods and customers preference though James is dope on description

[@nittygrittytalks5999]

My scales be like: 18g or 20g - it doesn’t matter. Who do you care so much?

[@leeroy6481]

Hahaha I mostly stick to 18,6 grams. I know much about coffee, but not if ,1 gram makes a big difference. Coffee is also a very bounded to personal traditions which makes the entire coffee community such a neat place!

[@munjee2]

I mean if your salary was 3000 and one time you received 2850, you'd have some questions ...

[@makatron]

That's the kind of design you get when you let an engineer make it functional first instead of a marketing team. That's just gorgeous!

[@papo1515]

correction: this is what happens when you let an engineer make you a cup of coffee.

[@400cabal]

@@papo1515 a jet engineer nonetheless

[@slipperyavocado9457]

@@400cabal more chemical that aero, god knows how they'd deal with a 2 phase system ;p

[@boygenius538_8]

Form follows function

[@razgvozd]

Musk found dead.

[@christianwilliams1690]

As a physicist, this is both something I absolutely need and something I cannot afford

[@spaceforce0]

on the physicist part what is it that interests you about it?

[@christianwilliams1690]

@@spaceforce0 it's a really interesting application of thermodynamics- I don't think any other home devices use liquid water over 100 degrees C

[@ImBarryScottCSS]

@@christianwilliams1690 Pressure cookers have been around for a couple years now 🤷‍♂️

[@drvanon]

Another physicists here: the combination of pressure and heat i think is what it does for me. Regular pressure cookers only go up to 2 bars while this goes to 9 which is just mad.

[@power50001562]

@@drvanon I don't understand how the pressure goes to the grounds because my intuition tells me the chimney will be shooting like a water gun if the chamber it's connected to is way above 1 bar.

[@sushiburps]

3 years later and I'm still in love with this machine. James nailed it when he said the 9barista is for *you*, it's such a personal device.

[@cujotwentysix7519]

Papa Hoffmann has blessed us today

[@Jmax2018]

PAPA HOFFMAN😂😭😂😭😂

[@johanneslaudi6184]

Poffman

[@samuel_excels]

Papa Hoffmann makes James sound like a sinister voodoo witchdoctor. I'm imagining James wearing a top hat laughing maniacally whilst reading the future in spent coffee grounds.

[@LumiLunar]

Papa Hoffman, that's a weird way of saying Hoff Daddy.

[@blueboots-san]

🙏🙏🙏

[@oleksiishekhovtsov1564]

I swear for a second I thought this was in my price range...

[@brightbluesummer3981]

Same. Everything is so expensive

[@evilontoast7266]

Every time

[@orangepeals7210]

Right? Every time something's in my price ranger on this channel, James trounces it (deservedly), but the neat little gadgets that he recommends are always well expensive.

[@brightbluesummer3981]

Lol, so basically if you’re broke you are not seeing good coffee anytime soon. That’s basically it I guess.

[@TheScords]

i Hoped for around 150-200€ that is what i would pay I guess. When you think about that they cant really use standardized parts ( and also produce in such low volumes) I think the price is not unreasonable.

[@bassline29]

That thing is one kyber crystal away from being a lightsaber. Elegant.

[@patavinity1262]

It would be a fat, chodey kind of lightsaber

[@petercerdenia4880]

an elegant way of brewing, for a more....civilized age.

[@PSspecialist]

Ι can't unsee it now.

[@leonardodigirolamo96]

The 9barista looks like the coffee-ish maker of the StarWars Universe! The Jedi’s coffee maker maybe

[@vardhan4594]

You're breaking mah balls here Matt

[@Arcsecant]

When a good Moka pot dies, it goes to heaven and becomes one of these.

[@SirBender]

And is THEN able to make real espresso...

[@ImBarryScottCSS]

Sike there are no good Moka pots.

[@amirhoseinsari5417]

😂😂😂🤣😂😏🤣😏

[@alwayslearning7672]

It's a reincarnation of a Bialetti.

[@daviddulom8258]

😂😂🤧

[@ryenschimerman2127]

I invested in this as my first espresso machine because of this review.. thank you James. The consistency of this machine has allowed me to really understand the variables in grind, coffee, and all the other variables of the magic bean. Without ever getting anywhere near mastery of course. You really are a blessing. To anyone that buys the 9Barista though, watch this review x3 before you pull the trigger and really listen to what Hoffman is saying here. Then, read the instructions x3 before brewing, then follow along on your second or third brew. It's a fantastic machine, that can only do what it's promised to do.

[@emananay1]

My wife hears me watch a James Hoffman video and ask, “What are you going to buy now?”

[@neowy]

Haha!

[@bronxty]

Lmao 🤣

[@bobbyomari5500]

My fiancée constantly rolls her eyes at me 🤣

[@wanketta]

Not this, I’ll wager.

[@joeangeles308]

😂

[@kowabungo]

I have one of these and it has proved a great thing to experiment with. It is a lot of fun for an avid home-brewer and, as you say, requires an iota of patience. However when it goes well, the feeling is wonderful as it does have capacity to deliver some quality home espresso. My dad did the photography for them so we ended up with 2 early units (including unit 0001 - still boxed!) and a slightly later unit too. The later unit (0207) seemed to perform more consistently, however I don't know whether that was partly down to me getting more of a handle on how to use it! I am glad to see this on the channel as Will and the team have done an amazing job and made an immensely beautiful item.

[@jameshoffmann]

Compliments to your dad! Those photos look great!

[@kniveznor1]

a fun "400$" experiment ok. lol

[@darendroid]

@@kniveznor1 They got a complimentary unit, read the whole comment before responding.

[@naycnay]

​@@kniveznor1 Just pointing out, lots of hobbies have expensive products for niche reasons. A $400, highly engineered stovetop espresso maker is just that. A luxury item that is not at all necessary and arguably a lot of their customers will be people who own espresso machines (and lots of coffee paraphernalia) simply because it's quite cool and fun to play with. Overall, short of high-end espresso, coffee's quite a cheap hobby...

[@artofguitar]

Dude, put it in your own comment if you must but stop being negative in everyone else's. It's pretty annoying.

[@Steril707]

After having this for three months now, I have to say I have nothing but love for this thing. It's definitely not for everyone, but for me it's simply perfect. Today I had my safety ring blown after I forgot to put water into it (I am sick and dazzled, didn't get much sleep last night, so forgive me ;) ), and I was able to repair it in like 5 minutes myself. And the rest of the machine looks like you can do most of the repair yourself as well. In these times where stuff breaks never to be repaired again, and then polluting the environment, this is simply amazing. I can see this staying with me the rest of my life.

[@anime-tiddies]

Is it easy to clean?

[@9Barista]

Please to hear you like your machine. Yes, it's designed to be customer serviceable and reparable - but for those of a less practical nature, we'll happily service your machine for you.

[@Steril707]

@@9Barista After over a year of using a 9Barista, I am still super happy with it. Thanks once more for this amazing piece of kit.

[@johnfoster8226]

James, I think you are missing a second group of people this is for: mechanical engineers who are into coffee (of which I know quite a few). Personally, I have to have this, not because it fits my lifestyle, but because I just love the thermodynamic design so much.

[@NevynsLab]

I’m an engineer from an IT background but have a home machine shop (Lathe, mill, etc) so I absolutely love this thing !

[@M3gaDom]

Totally agree. I worked on heat exchangers for an internship in college and want to send one of these to my mentor who taught me a ton about steam.

[@alunparry8154]

Where do I buy thia?

[@alohajason]

I was gonna say this is for second level engineer hipsters. Are you gonna get one?

[@Shancyyy]

Ha I’m literally watching this as I do my fluid mechanics homework and it makes me wanna throw some equations at it

[@LadyTigerLily]

This is the kind of beautiful, simple, genius engineering that I love and appreciate and clearly was made by someone who gets coffee. What a cool thing, and the materials look nice and sturdy. Definitely something I'll share with my coffee friends to talk about, and maybe one day get and play with. "I might be a little bit rough sometimes." Oh, James... same... Thanks for another great and thorough video!

[@dlxmarks]

Elegant engineering but the complexity makes me concerned for its longer term reliability. I'm going to watch owner feedback for the next year or so to see how it does.

[@cade5400]

As a student currently in thermodynamics, I’m absolutely in love with this thing

[@artim35gyn]

Se você obter um não vai arrepender, eu só comprei porque entendi o modo de fabricação e arrisquei que cumpriria o que promete pela inteligência engenhosa 😅

[@prijaymistry9696]

"I'm at sea level" - James with the most relatable content

[@yolo_burrito]

Me: KZbin what’s the best $50 electric moka pot. KZbin Algos: here’s a beautiful, amazingly complex, way to brew espresso for $400. Me: sold

[@azuraligthfeilt]

Kidney: *sold*

[@vanai2359]

This is exactly what happend to me now

[@CarcassGrater]

exact same here

[@brianfreland9065]

i have an obsession with hand tools and no electricity needed tools and gadgets and this is absolutely genius and right up my ally! it the perfect espresso "Machine" for my cabin in the woods!!! thanks for sharing this!

[@dewrunning]

As an architect and product designer, it’s nice to see thoughtful design and esthetics combined so well !

[@petarcvijetic9256]

And then there is reallity called the price

[@rustymoran7484]

I love James’ attention to scientific accuracy: “boiling water at [slight pause] 100 degrees Celsius, or wherever you are, here at sea level, water boils at 100c”

[@Zraknul]

James wants people in Denver or Everest base camp to also have a good time.

[@WolfmanAndy]

Purity has an effect as well 😉

[@antonhelsgaun]

Although he should also mention that would also change the other temperature

[@syrus3k]

*sea level on earth

[@-nomi.-]

Whether intentional or just a consequence of the stovetop design, the size makes this probably the best espresso machine for someone who has to move somewhat often, especially internationally. Pretty cool to see something fit that niche as well as this does.

[@chriswatts9227]

I think you're spot-on for those, like me, who love the process of using a Bialetti stovetop this is an exciting idea as a step up.

[@gaslitworldf.melissab2897]

I just start using the Bialetti. I'm a once a week Coffee Drinker. Moka Mondays. I found him when I searched for how to use a Bialetti about a month ago here on YT.

[@listentodave]

Personally I don't appreciate it for coffee purposes but engineering that goes into the whole thing and the thought behind it is beautiful

[@josephshmoe1647]

As a machinist, when you consider the number of components, the cost of the materials, and the skilled labor involved in manufacturing and assembling them, it's not really surprising that it retails for $385. Especially considering what was very likely a low volume on the initial production run. The hardest part about starting a new company is getting consumers to justify the price of the initial units. The less educated ones will assume that greed is the motivating factor without recognizing that 80% of the asking price went into making the thing.

[@Adam-vx6to]

Lots of people not in the speciality coffee/espresso world simply don't understand how low volume and high production cost these things are. Many espresso machines cost waaaay more than this. Its just an expensive hobby.

[@barryfoster453]

@@Adam-vx6to Then such a product doesn't deserve to be manufactured. I say that as an engineer who has designed a number of products that got to manufacture, and still sell today. If you are going to build a product whose final price will reflect your cost to get it to market (to a very large extent) then you should not make it. It's £325. I would expect my R&D costs to be no more than 5% of the retail cost. If it's more, then it shouldn't get made. Too many products are manufactured with a vanity built in. 'I'm going to make this, and you are going to pay me for all my research and failed prototypes'. That's just plain mad, and appeals to idiots with more money than brain cells.

[@Adam-vx6to]

@@barryfoster453 Congrats! An engineer who doesnt understand basic stuff! Please ask for a refund from whatever third rate school you went to

[@barryfoster453]

@@Adam-vx6to Oh, dear. What should I tell them about the products I've designed and have gone into manufacture...and are still manufactured today? What about the products I've got patents on? You see, it's you who cannot comprehend what I said. Some people, like you, cannot be educated.

[@Adam-vx6to]

@@barryfoster453 And yet you cant understand low volume high quality products. Some people, like you, cannot be educated.

[@emiliefitzsimons821]

I have a 9barista and I absolutely love it. We use it every day, at least twice a day. The coffee is consistently delicious - and the brewing process is fun! I no longer use any of my other espresso machines. I highly recommend!

[@fuelbasti]

Hi, do I still need an extra plate for an induction or is the serial model been updated?

[@princedarwish1]

Could you share with us the make or the origin of that 9baista please

[@TerryManitoba]

So - are you still enjoying using and more importantly the espresso from the 9Barista?

[@MyStolenAimbot]

Do you still enjoy it?

[@donnienlefty]

At £300 how does it compare with a domestic espresso machine for the same price? I get that it's a small company, r&d, that it's a niche product and just for 'you'. I no longer use a moka pot but do enjoy a decent espresso when out. The reviews I read a couple of years ago were not great, but this video has ignited my interest again.

[@zondaz]

I keep coming back to this video because of just how beautifully designed the product is, and James’ elegant description and review of it. It’s not something that would fit in with my lifestyle, but definitely a product worth admiring

[@rvoisey]

I got mine for making espresso while camping at festivals, but I draw a shot every morning at home as it produces far better espresso than my beans to cup machine. It helps to be an engineering geek - it's a fantastic piece of casting and finishing.

[@CraigAznoe]

This is my kind of coffee purchase. Something beautiful that makes decent coffee. Support good engineering!

[@awsumpchits]

dammit. I'm the dude that wishes his moka pot could do espresso. i'm also the dude who wishes he had €350 to spend on this wonderful contraption : )

[@SenselessUsername]

You have the time to wait? Either buy 3 or get rid of your partner/friends?

[@imchronicallyme1339]

Yes Nick I feel your pain. 😊

[@somedude-lc5dy]

the base-level Flair ($159) is actually quite great at making espresso. I dialed mine in before they had the pressure gauge available. I then bought the pressure gauge set for it, and I don't even use it because I've found that by taste alone I learned the right force to use on the handle. it's the cheapest path to top-quality espresso.

[@Gramayr]

You can do a sort of espresso in a Moka Pot. I think James does a video on this as well. Basically put less water in the bottom and grind a little finer. Also I'd add that adding a couple of AeroPress filter papers in the basket (one on the bottom and one on top of the coffee, to make a coffee sandwich in the basket) may help stop fines from migrating into the cup (and into the base). Try it and see how you go.

[@thanks600]

Bellman is similar as it is stovetop & have a steam wand option.

[@ymeiner]

This machine needs to have a double sized sibling. If I brag to friends about it, I want to be able to make them coffee!

[@nicolazanni276]

You can have twice :)

[@lilianarestrepo1115]

I feel like that would take your house out if something went wrong.

[@JeffSyam]

Every brewer that use thermodynamics is a mechanical-engineer coffee-gear must have. Edit: After so many comments, let's change thermodynamics to thermal-expansion.

[@daniel635biturbo]

Yes, my god this was a nice design. Simple in theory, and difficult to manufacture. And executed in the most beautiful way.

[@yigitkaratas4961]

i'm a mechanical engineering student and this thing is like the intersection of the two things i love

[@senged]

Well, all types of espresso machine use thermodynamics. Even the drip filter coffee..

[@JeffSyam]

@@senged Not significant on drip machine, no to little expansion (only in boiler) and water hit coffee ground at atmospheric pressure. P1V1=P2V2 isn't use, CMIIW.

[@palansuya]

@@JeffSyam isnt mixing considered thermodynamic i.e. increase in entropy? Especially using hot water.

[@rhubarbpie2027]

I work on F-15 aircraft, and looking at the 9barista I can see the aerospace influence. The orange o-rings remind me of the heat/ oil resistant gaskets, the sand marks on the nickel plated brass filter housing, the laser etching for water... it makes me happy. I NEED IT. Thanks, James ☕

[@TheoSmith249]

high temp silicone

[@rhubarbpie2027]

@@TheoSmith249 likely so!

[@nelsonclub7722]

I can't afford it. I have no use for it. If I had one it would not get used. I want one, where do I get it?

[@BlackSwan912]

😂🤣😂😅

[@bazza945]

Ah, ha, another gadget nerd, welcome.

[@MrRoyboy55]

I can't afford it *** covit!, my boss says i have a use for it , it would be an adventure every morning using it , I want one !!! i am going to find where to get one !!!! look away wallet lol

[@nelsonclub7722]

@@MrRoyboy55 Sneak up to wallet when its least expecting it!!!! Only way

[@notavailable.000]

lmao. it sounds typical

[@majabook-owska4597]

I own one of those beautiful coffee machines, it is the best thing ever. I cannot imagine going back to having coffee done any other way. It is so worth the price!

[@9Barista]

Great! Thanks for the review Maja.

[@clari57n]

I own one of these. I’m a patent attorney and was so excited by the idea/ingenuity of the thing when it came up on my LinkedIn (of all places) that I just ordered one. In fact, it kickstarted my love of coffee and espresso, and sent me down the rabbit hole of good hand grinders (got a C40 shortly afterwards), and even your channel!! I agree with just about everything you’ve said: niche, takes practice, but incredibly designed, almost a work of art, and makes amazing coffee.

[@TerryManitoba]

So - are you still enjoying using and more importantly the espresso from the 9Barista?

[@zacharywinter1273]

Spot on review, it's a cool machine! I've been making a bunch of espresso the last weeks with mine. It is VERY consistent, particularly in temperature and I have been able to consistently get consistent tasty espresso with a range of lighter roast to dark roast. So tasty!!! But as you say, it doesn't have the most power, it struggles with finer grind settings, even though it might have made theoretically tasty shots. Still, that being said there's a lot that can be changed with dose and it is a lot of fun. I am exactly in the market you mentioned, someone with a Mokka pot wishing they could pull a real shot on the stove-top, or maybe camping, and not a lot of space so you nailed that market review lol. I think the price is valid for the build quality and consistency and I enjoy supporting clever startups. I disagree with the slippage of the portafilter, and this you notice for darker roasts and a higher dose around 20g. There, the fit is tighter with the silicone basket cap. If you grind while it's heating up the turnaround can be quite fast. I've pulled 2 doubles within 15 min, which is possible by grinding and tamping while the lower portion is heating up. I would probably keep the 9barista for pure espresso joy and use a brikka pot when making milk drinks for friends. For dialing in, I would probably recommend finding a good flow rate with the grind size (too low and it will most certainly choke) then finding the tasty point with the dose and enjoy! For making milk drinks, my stove is full of pressure boilers though, which looks very funny. At the moment the 9barista to make the espresso and the bellman to steam the milk. Makes all of my friends (and me) very very happy (: I would be curious your thoughts and experience, whether you think something like this would be more consistent than say a la pavoni leverarm or a sage barista pro? Thanks for your delicious coffee content!

[@moorejl57]

Can you dial in the 6 min requirement by using water alone?

[@zacharywinter1273]

@@moorejl57 using room temp or slightly cold water, my machine takes 6 min at max on a glass top before espresso starts to come through. Around 5, 5:30 you can notice the steam out the chimney. It really is quite fast. I time my shots when I first start to notice espresso coming up the top. To adjust the 6 min mark, it should be related to stove heating power and water temp. But the machine works by building up enough vapor pressure. That might mean lowering the heat setting for some stoves, or by preheating the fob with the metal disc. Does that help a little bit?

[@moorejl57]

@@zacharywinter1273 Yes, that makes perfect sense. I just need to save my pennies, close my eyes and press order while remaining in denial of how much it costs lol.

[@zacharywinter1273]

@@moorejl57 I can only say for me, but it's in the same price range as some cheaper portafilters, but none of them are pid controlled or there's always something else like pressure regulation, or water boiler startup time. This machine has those problems simply under control. You can't change them, but that's not necessarily a problem. Concerning build and materials, I think the price matches the parts. I don't know if you ever need anything machined or do diy, but I think all considering price is yeah reasonable. Made sense for me. I think at first glance the price seems high because it looks like a mocha pot. It most certainly is not. It probably won't be the last massive in my life. I may want to have more knobs to turn like water temp, etc. But for now it's a great step up from a mocha pot/brikka which I've wanted to do for so long. I have made great coffee on all the machines though. If you've never tried a brikka pot, I would also recommend that. Great fun

[@Robosan4000]

For everyday home use, would you buy this or a used Rancilio Silvia?

[@bernardoterreno9946]

This device takes care of the fundamentals. Simple, minimalist, great taste. And a good video to boot.

[@jedherman7450]

What a wonderful celebration of the fundamentals of engineering and physics.

[@akhilbhatnagar1]

I have been using this for the last 3 months. I love it - produces good quality espresso. Best to have a good burr grinder like the Niche. Really enhanced the espresso making after I got that grinder. Overall - it's great if you need it for yourself - one person only. Like Jim mentioned, it's for you, only you. Not for multiple people. But a great device overall.

[@anthonycolbourne4206]

Yeah, I'd certainly be more interested if they made a larger capacity model. For the time and effort to make just one, I can't see me ever considering this, even though it looks extremely appealing.

[@ExpertAquariumGirl]

Can I use my Rancilio Rocky with this? (Silly question, I’m sure yes but making sure)

[@coolieo5000]

As a mechanical engineer I was very excited to buy this... Untill the price. Some day maybe!

[@dardinshouseofpancakes6260]

I just got mine two weeks ago. I got it because I don’t really have the counter space for a full machine or even a lever machine. It makes great coffee. After the first time I used it I use less water and don’t have any issues with the steam spout. Mine already has the nucleation fix. It can be a surprise when the pressure release goes off if your grind is too fine. I’ve also found that heating it up on the highest setting on my electric stove works best. I’m really glad that I can switch up my morning pour overs. I can also use this while I make breakfast or have some milk in an Ibrik on a separate burner.

[@TerryManitoba]

So - you still enjoy using the 9B and more importantly the espresso from the 9Barista?

[@dardinshouseofpancakes6260]

@@TerryManitoba yeah I’m using it at least a few times a week. It makes great coffee and is pretty easy to use. There is some unexpected wear points like the wood on the handle is starting to fray/lacquer slowly coming off as water accidentally gets on it cleaning. But those are just aesthetic really. I’ve had a lot of good espresso using it near daily.

[@TerryManitoba]

@@dardinshouseofpancakes6260 THX for the reply - I've been deep into brewing my own great coffee for years and only occasionally pick up an espresso. For all the right reasons - I just may have to step up my coffee game and get myself a 9Barista...

[@dardinshouseofpancakes6260]

It’s about as good my local cafe’s shots. It does take a bit to dial in a new roast but I’ve had good success.

[@TerryManitoba]

@@dardinshouseofpancakes6260 As long as you've had some fun along the way learning to dial it - all is good.

[@N3tech]

I absolutely love the design of using thermodynamics to mechanically engineer a system to create a repeatable brew like this without any electronics. Absolutely beautiful.

[@Kefford666]

That lack of control actually sounds like a plus for me! I was gifted a moka pot and a V60 and I like making coffee with them even if it's with shop bought ground coffee (I don't own a grinder). Just looking at this thing makes me want to buy one!

[@bluowl]

I've literally put all my other brewers away. I've had this for over 2 months now and it has become my daily driver. I use it on a Samsung induction stove with the metal plate and it has been making consistent brews for me. So happy with my purchase. Had a few hick ups in the beginning with grind, setup and having to change one of the gaskets but now it makes great shots. I'd definitely purchase it again and look forward to what the company develops next

[@ParisMay68]

I have one also and your good experience mirrors mine. I’m amused by all the negative comments here since every single one of them are from people who do not own the machine nor tasted an espresso made from one.

[@bluowl]

I’m still using it on a regular basis. Same machine. New basket which I love and replaced the gaskets.

[@senortilla7239]

I’m super happy with 9Barista, excellent coffee, impressive build quality

[@JoelConner]

"Awesome!!! A great little thing that is obviously going to be relatively inexpressive that I can use to make passable espresso at home without having to splurge on the $400 level machine!" This was before I clicked on the link and shed some tears.

[@m3fpv253]

As an engineering student... godamn this thing is beautiful. Just a few days ago I was thinking about how cool a machine with an upside down portafilter would be. The thermodynamics engineering is also awesome! Ugh I want one so bad now haha

[@dennissvensson6051]

Why not make one? That would be a interesting school project. 🤔

[@bewatter3014]

@@dennissvensson6051 that project would cost really so much.. dont think that any university would support financially this project without any real reasoning/thesis behind it

[@dennissvensson6051]

@@bewatter3014 I've done some thinking about it and I really don't think that it would cost that mutch, still cheaper to by on second hand or the absolute budget class, I'll give you that (and less dangerous). I'm thinking about buying a broken espresso machine and repair it just for the learning, and a nice cup of espresso.

[@bewatter3014]

@@dennissvensson6051 if u would do technical drawing... and find a company to mold those parts it would be alone soooo freaking expensive... and i am not even talking about the surface work they would have to do... yeah why not go for it... its always nice to try understand systems and work on them = ) just be careful

[@dennissvensson6051]

@@bewatter3014 You are overtinking it, I could have been more clear on what I and probably TS as well would finde interesting to learn from building a espresso machine: thermodynamics, fluid dynamics, electricity and depending on the design analog or/and digital control. You don't need to go all the way and build everything from raw material to get the learning and satisfaction you want from the project, buy spair parts, and maybe even by a broken one. Try to figure it out why and how it works and what can you do bether/make it work as you want before disassemble for parts.

[@MrEsPlace]

Thanks to James, frying my coffee has now become habitual. Every time I get a new bean, I have to brew it 1000 different ways and then move on to another. HEY JAMES!!!! HOW ABOUT EGG NOG IN YOUR COFFEE?!

[@uero-ro]

I wanted to share, in regards to the bubbling issue from the boiling chamber, from the 9Barista blog, they have already changed production to account for this moving forward: "If your machine serial number is greater than 322, then your machine has already had this treatment applied during production - so you shouldn’t need the kit."

[@MoeSpice]

I’m interested in coffee yet have never looked anything up for it, got this recommended and it was pretty fun. Good job James

[@lakedistrict9450]

Had mine for a couple of weeks now. Took 4-5 brews to dial in and now it’s a quick easy process to get top quality double shots time after time. Very happy with it, and although expensive for me, worth the £s for the results. 11 clicks on the Commandante with 16g dark roast beans is the sweet spot for me. Since JH’s review, they must have sorted the nucleation issue, as mine does not spit water from the chimney.

[@WaechterDerNacht]

As a young engineer, i found only 2 coffee machines i would like to own: This and the Decent. The decent is just way too expensive for the amount of coffee i drink, but definitely gonna look into this a bit more.

[@georgeharisson1880]

Who knows, when you are an old engineer you maybe able to afford the decent 🤗

[@TheFinalMB]

Holy shirt pockets!! This thing looks absolutely amazing!! Props to the engineers on this!! *diverting funds of my coffee gadgets account*

[@Ontheroadtourism]

I received mine today and I have used it twice. I can honestly say even after two uses it makes very good coffee. This is everything I was hoping for and I know this will take my coffee making to where I want it to be.

[@9Barista]

Very pleased to hear it. Sounds like you've got it nailed - but where here if you every need any help.

[@AlokeshBagchi]

Yes! I am waiting for the delivery in December, Order No 3399!

[@TerryManitoba]

So - How are you enjoying using and more importantly how is the espresso from the 9Barista?

[@manrex5238]

Man your voice makes me relax and peaceful

[@rjeary]

James, that is one of the most beautiful pieces of engineering I have ever seen. I must have it. Please 🙏

[@johndrake5018]

I imagine this guy is just super jacked on coffee all day; simply by testing so much coffee and related things

[@djsoh6041]

lol

[@Krumpina1029]

A good product when you don't take price into account. It currently sells for just under £400. £34 for a travel cup and £96 for a naked portafilter. They're really capitalising on the reputation for quality they have quickly built.

[@ludantothereddalmatian9349]

This video is one of the rare times James Hoffmann tastes something and likes it

[@paolobramucci3609]

Good review James, you now having me giving this some serious thought. Even before listening to your review, the look of this device had me giving it some serious thought from a design and artistic standpoint. I loved its minimal utilitarian refine look. The 9Barista Espresso Machine is quite literally Steampunk! Thank you sir for sharing your all things coffee passion with us. 👍🙏🙂

[@brian1264]

I own one of the first units that came out and am still in love with it years later. Primarily it's used with a Comandante as part of a camping setup. On a gas camp stove starting with cold water it will produce espresso in ~2 minutes (pre-heat the included heat distribution plate while you're grinding the coffee). I dose 18-19g and grind about the same as I would for my Linea Mini home machine. With bare minimum puck prep, I do not observe any evidence of channeling. James may be onto something with pressure dropping at the end of the shot; I have found anything that comes out after the first 1.5 - 2oz to be watery and under extracted, so I just transfer to a demitasse when I see the flow rate increase and toss the final portion of the shot. The end result is a very satisfying, uniquely full bodied and balanced espresso better than what you'll find in most coffee shops (at least to my taste). Cleanup takes about 15 seconds once it's cooled down enough to touch. Customer support has been awesome; I melted down my machine pretty good once (do to not screwing the base onto the body, so all the water evaporated) and they helped me get replacement parts to my doorstep in 2 days. Beautiful machine and a pleasure to use!

[@JustinKessinger]

7:21 i have used this sound bite for so many things. it plays in my head when i pull shots now

[@Acid113377]

Ha, same here!

[@BerryBurgerMeister]

Flair vs. cafelat vs. Rok vs. 9barista please! If not a full video just an opinion would be great 👍🏼

[@lionsdontlie]

seriously. I can't drop 300+ dollars on all of them. lol

[@JuanGonzales-or6pu]

I Agree, @jameshoffmann please make a Comparison for non electric brewers.

[@nick3790]

3yrs later and they've upped the price by 2-300 dollars 😅

[@alexturianskyj7363]

Take a shot of espresso every time James says "clever" in the first 2 minutes.

[@JRCSalter]

Since I watch his videos at 1.5x speed, it always seems to me that James does this challenge regularly.

[@MelkorHimself]

Day 5: Still haven't slept.

[@nelsonclub7722]

too pished to wotch resht

[@cxsism5127]

it's a teaser for the clever dripper video i think

[@scottleggejr]

My hands and fingers approach 240Hz

[@mjudec]

It's a thing of beauty and at some point in the future when cost plummets it will be a great gadget. But for £300 you can get a fairly OK espresso machine with milk steamer (either a semi decent new or pretty darn good 2nd hand). I'm not sure this competes well.

[@emilethrash2670]

well prices aren't likely to go down on a small production scale expensive and unique item like this in my opinion. and I don't think people who just want to drink espresso in their morning are the target audience. people interested in this most likely will go for it because of space issues, because they like the simplicity or the "nerdyness" of it. so competition might not be relevant

[@NikolaM2011]

Yes like gaggia classic ))

[@harijaja]

Well I would suggest you don't waster your money on a $300 espresso machine, you will not get anything fairly decent with an OK espresso machine, of course, the exception being manual ones like the Rok, Flair, Espresso Forge, etc/

[@Hilly092]

@@harijaja got a silvia v3 for $350aud. Just gotta jump on the deal when it presents itself. Got a compak e5 for $500, less than this costs. You can get good espresso for less if you're patient and upgrade with other peoples old gear haha

[@hannahgreenfield4120]

NikolaM2011 we have both gaggia classic and 9barista. Never use the gaggia anymore as the 9barista makes superior coffee, consistently.

[@makgstefan]

i found out the best shot is between 17,9 grams to 18,5 depending of the coffee beans. The best professional coffee you can have home. It is an expensive machine and you need an expensive grinder too and you can have always the best espresso. Totally worth the money. I use it now already 2 years non stop. The only problem i had was the pressure valve. I forgot it in the stove and burn it 3 times :p But it was my problem and very easy to repair. Just you buy new valve and done in seconds. I would love though if 9barista would sell some extra accessories for tampering and some more stuff for purring the grinded coffee to the baskets etc.

[@Newman13F]

That thing looks pretty neat! But for that price, I'd rather just get a Flair.

[@_yuuzo]

Exactly.

[@LouKeppler]

Love my Flair, and also my Brikka moka pot

[@seanmorris1021]

I think the nice thing about this though is it requires less effort to get a consistently good espresso. At least once you're past the dial-in stage.

[@jonathonschuster]

@@seanmorris1021 Less effort than a Flair? I don't think you get much less effort than that other than I guess pre-heating the brew chamber. So I guess you get that, though on the Flair you don't really have to measure water in. One advantage to the Flair is you have more ratio control it seems.

[@stomic50]

When can we see you make and give your thoughts about Turkish coffee?

[@britebooy]

This is exactly what I have been waiting for. I’m probably going to make my purchase sometime around Christmas hopefully by then they will get all the bugs worked out. I am a mocha pot only coffee drinker, and this will take my game up to the next level.

[@ExclusiveMusic1]

So there's a community of people watching Mr. Hoffman's videos at 1.5 speed. From videos that are normally calm cool and collected, at 1.5 speed he is a comic genius. Laughed till my stomach hurt, imagining he drank to much coffee that morning. 😭

[@laurasibley3897]

at 0.5 you get drunk James

[@hastur1375]

I'm dying 🤣

[@gtotorean]

Got the 366 device, fell in love with the design and promise of a genuine espresso from a stove top machine. It doesn't disappoint. Also went for the Comandante C40 on James' advice, and for me, at least, it is on par with professional coffee shop shots. The price is high, I'll give you that, it was a birthday gift coming from the money saved in petrol during covid lockdown. But damn, it's sexy! The heft of it oozes quality, the machine makes a theatrical event out of your morning espresso routine. Love it!

[@TerryManitoba]

So - are you still enjoying using the 9B and more importantly the espresso from the 9Barista?

[@gtotorean]

@@TerryManitoba without a doubt. It's been in use daily, has some quirks, like you can't ever be prepared when the steam valve blows, even if you're totally expecting it 🤣 (you know from the flow when you ground the coffee too fine). The espresso is divine, rich and flavoursome, and I've been experimenting with lots of different coffee varieties, making my own blends. At the moment I'm using Vergnano and Costa beans, been also mixing Rave and Illy. My all time favourite has been Manaresi beans, but Exe coffee roasters neighbourhood blend was also a delight. So yes, highly recommended! Still! ❤️ ☕

[@TerryManitoba]

@@gtotorean THX for the reply - I've been deep into brewing my own great coffee for years and only occasionally pick up an espresso. For all the right reasons - I just may have to step up my coffee game and get myself a 9Barista...

[@gtotorean]

@@TerryManitoba I think its simplicity is understated. Granted, "cheap" it ain't. But it just delivers. 😊

[@TerryManitoba]

@@gtotorean Would you care to share your favorite recipe/workflow with your 9B

[@sidequest_studio]

This has my interest for my morning brew while at fire camp. The idea of having a real espresso while out on assignments sounds wonderful.

[@zogzog1063]

I want to buy one just for the looks!

[@dojufitz]

It looks great & I'm considering buying one. I just wish it was larger - for two cups.

[@dwightjones3305]

It would pay for it's self in two years if espresso is worth $1 to you. You use about 40 cents a day to pay for coffee beans. That leaves 60 cents a day to pay for equipment. $400 divided by 60 cents a day lets this pay for its self in two years. One year if you use if twice a day or if espresso id worth $1.60 to you. I just ordered mine. Thank you for the review James.

[@e220v]

Fascinating analysis

[@FiveStoryTreeHouse5]

Good point Dwight

[@Dan113842]

If this had come out like 5 years ago, I would definitely own it already

[@AlokeshBagchi]

Thank you James, I got one such, after watching your video! It’s wonderful!! Prepare Ethiopian Espresso

[@samwebb585]

Oh man, this is the most intelligently designed coffee thing I have ever seen. Jet engineering science in my morning espresso? Yeah, that's pretty cool. And the espresso looks pretty good!!!!!

[@malikijazgoldeneye]

The inventor of this machine is a true GENIUS. I like this piece of art, but can't afford it.

[@Lurkerhlb3]

James based on your excellent review I purchased one of these devices. It arrived yesterday, and now I can have espresso at home. Pulled the most excellent shot this morning I could ever imagine. Again thank you so very much for this excellent review

[@9Barista]

Awesome!

[@ianbarnett9695]

I think many people are missing the point here, you need to break this down into three areas: espresso, engineering and design. Firstly the quality of the espresso is truly excellent having previously owned my own cafe and used commercial machines IMHO you have to spend thousands on a great machine, some of these take up way too much counter space at home so this little beauty is a perfect solution. 2nd, the engineering gone into this is outstanding, it is a joy to put together and use, you can only fully appreciate after using first hand. Lastly, design this is a thing of beauty and proudly leave out on display in my kitchen. Basically, yes there are less expensive options but products like these only come around every now and again. This is one of the best coffee brewing purchases I have ever made.

[@Zetsucat]

If you want to lower the temperature, perhaps add a tiny bit of alcohol through the chimney. Depending on the mixture you can sort of change the temperature then between 78°C and 100°C.

[@marcvdm1111]

you mean grappa? instant "café corretto"

[@Raminagrobisfr]

and if you want a couple degree higher temperature, it's very easy : just salt the water in the middle section. So it will boild slightly above 100°c.

[@pandamedia6503]

you had me at "nucleation point"

[@portnaluinge]

I've been waiting for this one. I think I'm exactly the target market for this - only coffee drinker in the house, small kitchen, not looking for espresso as a hobby (which is why I mostly drink pour-over these days). I even *like* that it removes control of some variables so all I have to do is get the dose, grind and heat right and it'll just do the rest. If it was 50% cheaper I think I'd jump right in, but it's just at that point where I feel I'd need to use it daily to justify the cost, and I'm not entirely certain I would. It is tempting though.

[@gtotorean]

Don't hesitate, go for it, you won't regret it! I'm now so looking forward to the espresso in the morning, it's an amazing experience! Once you get the grind and quantity right, you're on a roll! The same as any espresso shot at a cafe!

[@joelusito4599]

Mine arrived yesterday and I look forward to giving it a try this morning. I will say it true is a piece of art and I'm not sure I want to make coffee with it. Well crafted and will be a great conversation piece when company is over. Thank you for your review, James. My machine is #1798.

[@9Barista]

Thanks Joe! Glad you like yours. How's the espresso?

[@joelusito4599]

@@9Barista I enjoy it very much. It's great trying different beans and roasts from a local roaster here in town.

[@9Barista]

@@joelusito4599 Great!

[@Atlantianis]

Stovetop espressomaker. Who would have thought the coffee-engineer-gods would grace us so.

[@diomedes8791]

As much as I enjoyed this - and just about every video you make, James, I really would like your thoughts and opinions on a type of coffee with an associated way of preparation that appears to have remained untouched by the Third Wave movement, yet it is the historic foundation of all coffee making: Namely Arabic, Turkish and Greek coffee. It would be great if you could make a video where you present this/these coffee(s) and brewing method(s) to your viewing several, and since your opinions and reflections on all things coffea-related carries not a little weight among us all, it would be great to hear your thoughts on this topic. Thank you!

[@uhoh5184]

I'd love to see a video like that too but I'd imagine he has to be very careful with it because those videos attrack a certain argumentative type on the internet haha

[@robertjason6885]

Excellent, entertaining, honest review..as always. For folks who enjoy having a wee bit of fun hitting their mark, a wonderfully engineered device.

[@Asylumrunner8]

Oh god James I'm gonna buy this ludicrously expensive thing aren't I

[@margieinnes4638]

Just the way he reviews it, is reason enough to buy one!!

[@lordfizzz]

This is so cool. I'm a high pressure boiler operator and I love good coffee. Double whammy

[@233kosta]

I'm an aerospace engineer and I approve this coffee brewer :D

[@mberlinger3]

Chemical engineer approved too!

[@NeilBraun]

I'm getting one. Thank you for this fantastic review. I have a number of reasons to want something like this, first is my love of coffee. My very favorite thing in the world is being in that foggy state just after waking up and making something I love, the process itself if a big part, to me, of waking up right. I live by myself on a small sailboat and so something of this size, and apparent quality would suit me perfectly. The price, while mildly off-putting, is worth it if it not only is fun to use but more importantly makes good espresso. Thank you again, very nice job you did on this.

[@팅-u4q]

People who invent this definitely very smart

[@DriftaholiC]

Pairs pretty well with the Bellman Stovetop Steamer. Wish there was a higher end steamer option. I've been able to dial in very good espresso with 17-18g, heating it as fast as possible. Great for camping, I'm very happy with it.

[@systemofapown]

I have one of these. Agree with James that it's annoying to dial-in, but once you get there it's worth it. I'd argue for the quality and how forgiving it is for making good espresso, it's worth the price. But I would say that, wouldn't I?

[@TerryManitoba]

So - are you still enjoying using and more importantly the espresso from the 9Barista?