Weird Coffee Science - Centrifuging Espresso

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James Hoffmann

James Hoffmann

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@lewisransom4694
@lewisransom4694 4 жыл бұрын
James Hoffmann "never swirl your espresso" Also James Hoffmann "spin espresso in a centrifuge"
@super_salty9189
@super_salty9189 4 жыл бұрын
Context is a bitch ain't it lol.
@johannes4518
@johannes4518 4 жыл бұрын
Lewis Ransom „oh no“ 😪
@chad9575
@chad9575 4 жыл бұрын
Lmaoooo 😂
@paveldruzba9824
@paveldruzba9824 4 жыл бұрын
You get a "license to swirl" when you purchase Kruve Propel :) which I will do asap actually, because I like them a lot.
@kalijasin
@kalijasin 4 жыл бұрын
@Lewis Ransom, Lol
@Dionyzos
@Dionyzos 2 жыл бұрын
This is it! It's the zero waste solution we all have been looking for! It's glorious, we should all get a centrifuge.
@yaseralduailej7166
@yaseralduailej7166 4 жыл бұрын
"There is only one thing left to do in the name of science", I admire the courage.
@clericneokun
@clericneokun 4 жыл бұрын
It definitely confirmed my preference for paper over metal filters. Espresso is an odd one though since the coffee got too bright when I tried a paper filter on it.
@bestshot4every1
@bestshot4every1 4 жыл бұрын
Someone somewhere will copy this for sure to win Barista Championship probably. Mad scientist for real dude 😂🤘
@herbsmanherbs
@herbsmanherbs 4 жыл бұрын
James.... . . . .. James. . .. ... JAMES! . ... ..... James?
@firstnamesecondname5341
@firstnamesecondname5341 4 жыл бұрын
4:25. A new challenge for ‘I’m a celeb get me out of here’ 🤣
@berk8449
@berk8449 4 жыл бұрын
wow caffeine is also lipid soluble, you must have sipped all of caffeine in those shots :D that gives me palpitations
@ernestbeckley
@ernestbeckley 2 жыл бұрын
Oh no. I'm dying.
@acid14talent
@acid14talent 4 жыл бұрын
what about trying it with cold brew
@icowrich
@icowrich 4 жыл бұрын
Obviously the next thing should be milk!
@TheAce0
@TheAce0 4 жыл бұрын
Now you need to get a gas chromatography setup to isolate and taste all the different compounds in your brews. It's the only logical next step.
@jeremychristian5409
@jeremychristian5409 4 жыл бұрын
Some people are down the rabbit hole. James Hoffman is just a couple meters away from the earth's core.
@tom-andrethomsen
@tom-andrethomsen 4 жыл бұрын
You got the hots for James? ;)
@HaydenHatTrick
@HaydenHatTrick 4 жыл бұрын
Nah, he still has ways to go. He isn't even hitting the HPLCs or GC/MS yet.
@thl205
@thl205 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, after watching 10 of these and not being a coffee drinker, I need an intervention.
@chachajones7669
@chachajones7669 4 жыл бұрын
Wait until you find Trenton and heath... now I’m also way to into shoe cobbling. Both channels are my go to now for late night relaxation before bed.
@RavenSWE
@RavenSWE 2 жыл бұрын
Next we need to know what happens when you smash coffee particles together in the Hadron Collider
@MrCakers
@MrCakers 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine going to his house for coffee and being asked, "Pour-over or Centrifuge?"
@roberthenrypoet
@roberthenrypoet 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@Neojhun
@Neojhun 3 жыл бұрын
Spinn Cofee, someone actually built a Consumer Electronic machine that does that.
@Conservator.
@Conservator. Жыл бұрын
@@Neojhun When a centrifuge would get stuck while spinning at high speed, the whole thing would start flying. (All the energy needed to get to the high RPMs would be released at once. The whole centrifuge would end up on the other site of your kitchen top, if you were lucky).
@JanPopieluch
@JanPopieluch 4 жыл бұрын
"Let me know, in the comments below: do *you* own a centrifuge? What are your favorite recipes?" ;)
@samwise1790
@samwise1790 4 жыл бұрын
Not a centrifuge, but a lab quality stirplate! Use it for making yeast starters for beer brewing, but now I'm wondering if there isn't some way to use coffee with it...
@melvynnl1395
@melvynnl1395 3 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha, I laughed so hard when seeing this comment XD
@zoeofdoom
@zoeofdoom Жыл бұрын
What's bonkers is, now years later, there IS a centrifugal coffee brewer on the market! DID THEY GET THE IDEA FROM JAMES?
@davidmarsham
@davidmarsham 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t want to laugh at someone else’s pain pain but... “Oh no. That’s very bad... that might actually make me cry.” Sorry James.
@Wranid
@Wranid 4 жыл бұрын
His clear coffee series is all about us enjoying his pain.
@paveldruzba9824
@paveldruzba9824 4 жыл бұрын
I laughed even more because I also tasted that oi (not as concentrated though) l and remember my feelings very well :) Sometimes, there are things you just have to try to know what it is like, and seeing someone else who is just about to go through that experience too, knowing what will most probably follow ... well .. the path to knowledge can be a lot of fun too :D :D
@MrStuki
@MrStuki 4 жыл бұрын
This is stuf for a gif 😂😂😂😂 Oh no
@super_salty9189
@super_salty9189 4 жыл бұрын
"this is crystal CLEAR" - James Hoffmann *a CLEAR coffee beverage company enters the chat*
@rdizzy1
@rdizzy1 4 жыл бұрын
Instant multi million dollar company if they released clear bottled coffee drinks.
@DovidM
@DovidM 4 жыл бұрын
“Clear Coffee” is touted as colorless cold brew. It is slightly yellow in color, and is described as a coffee flavored water.
@1966pennylane
@1966pennylane 4 жыл бұрын
Japan. They have already made a clear, “coffee flavored” drink-mistake.
@michealpersicko9531
@michealpersicko9531 2 жыл бұрын
@@DovidM I mean i imagine that transparent coffee wouldn't be as marketable of a name as clear coffee; I also imagine it would be pretty hard to make coffee 100% clear without losing more coffee flavor and turning it into water of questionable origin.
@chrisamies2141
@chrisamies2141 Жыл бұрын
@@DovidM you can get slightly yellow coffee flavoured water in quite a few places. They sell it as 'coffee', mind ... ;) (one of my friends called it 'aigua de castanyes' which I suppose translates as 'brown water.)
@ryanc9783
@ryanc9783 4 жыл бұрын
Its been said before, and ill say it again. The amount of effort and quality in your videos is insane!
@panp1222
@panp1222 4 жыл бұрын
can we get a mug that says "oh no"
@jameshoffmann
@jameshoffmann 4 жыл бұрын
Ha! (I can look into that...)
@nicolasfortin4216
@nicolasfortin4216 4 жыл бұрын
Yesss and it needs the face you did when saying it!
@darianelwood5946
@darianelwood5946 4 жыл бұрын
James Hoffmann I need that
@fritzonvespa
@fritzonvespa 4 жыл бұрын
" Oh no"........sage words indeed.....actually giggled out loud! Mug is a great idea.
@ngkasp
@ngkasp 4 жыл бұрын
Just the eyebrows, frown, and glasses with "oh" and "no" in each lens
@dakkarocka
@dakkarocka 4 жыл бұрын
The series can't die just cause the intro is so good.
@linam97
@linam97 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I thought it was really well done as well. Interesting, retro, and modern all at the same time.
@tinypanther27
@tinypanther27 4 жыл бұрын
@@linam97 is there a name or genre for this kind of music?
@felipetascon9142
@felipetascon9142 4 жыл бұрын
@@tinypanther27 pretty sure james makes it!
@jonathanwunrow
@jonathanwunrow 4 жыл бұрын
James' face after eating/drinking weird stuff is one of the best things on KZbin. "Oh no!"
@jayhom5385
@jayhom5385 3 жыл бұрын
And, he's so calm about it. If it was me it would...well I won't write it out but will initialize it. J F C. W T F I T S.
@flynn8860
@flynn8860 4 жыл бұрын
The moment you realize you need a mass spectrometer ...
@jameshoffmann
@jameshoffmann 4 жыл бұрын
I realised this some time ago...
@dlewis5431
@dlewis5431 4 жыл бұрын
Often thought a GC MS would be interesting.
@ianhu7755
@ianhu7755 4 жыл бұрын
@@dlewis5431 With that organic gunk you really need HPLC-MS-MS
@dwikafebrianto3016
@dwikafebrianto3016 4 жыл бұрын
@@ianhu7755 What are you talking about? High Polymer Liquid Chromatography something? I think I need to enroll a master degree for computational chemistry or something
@ianhu7755
@ianhu7755 4 жыл бұрын
@@dwikafebrianto3016 bah high performance LC, just a bigger pump and compatible piping with higher pressure tolerance with higher resolution. computational chemistry? is that a thing now? are we there already?
@ianhu7755
@ianhu7755 4 жыл бұрын
Something to contemplate: I am a biologist and I play with centrifuges almost everyday. For particles with the size of coffee ground, which have diameters in high µm I believe, you really just need something like 300g for 5 minutes to pellet all the solid. And I suspect at this speed and time your organic phase (oil) will not have separated yet. This could easily be achieved by a manual centrifuge (think manual egg beater, just bigger). These are easily affordable, and though will fatigue your arms if you do multiple shots, you can always have your guests swing their own coffee. Also for a closed tube with limited air, like the 50ml falcon tubes in the video, the best way to mix the solid with the liquid without introducing too much air into the liquid, is to invert the tube several times, each time after the air bubble travels to the top of the tube. That air bubble does a lot of things.
@angelabuenafeYT
@angelabuenafeYT 4 жыл бұрын
Wow. That's literally coffee science. Very nice.
@TheBusyJane
@TheBusyJane 4 жыл бұрын
What if you used one of those stand-alone electric milk frothers to centrifuge it from the inside?
@ianhu7755
@ianhu7755 4 жыл бұрын
TheBusyJane Err the frothers i’ve seen don’t do centrifugation. They vibrate very very quickly to introduce tiny air bubbles into the milk. Also you cannot centrifuge something from the inside, that’s not how it works.
@StrikingCrayon
@StrikingCrayon 4 жыл бұрын
What about a sealed container on a string? Spin to win?
@ianhu7755
@ianhu7755 4 жыл бұрын
@@StrikingCrayon Yes of course you can do that. Find a container that seals tight enough, a rope long enough to generate enough angular momentum, swing hard enough, and hope that your wife doesn't castrate you when you smash the container on the antique clock and spill coffee all over the Turkish carpet
@alexeystepashkin3195
@alexeystepashkin3195 4 жыл бұрын
Perfect hair for wierd scientist
@EricPetersen2922
@EricPetersen2922 4 жыл бұрын
Alexey Stepashkin yes the hair is working good today! 🤠
@dwikafebrianto3016
@dwikafebrianto3016 4 жыл бұрын
God, I really love the hair. I really wanna copy his hairstyle.
@HighCalip
@HighCalip 3 жыл бұрын
and accent!
@4ll3sb4n4n3
@4ll3sb4n4n3 3 жыл бұрын
James Bond Hoffmann: "One espresso, please." Barista: "Shaken or stirred?" James Bond Hoffmann: "Centrifuged!"
@StagguhLee
@StagguhLee 4 жыл бұрын
“There’s only one thing left to do.” This gonna be good.
@jeffgerards
@jeffgerards 4 жыл бұрын
For science...
@powdereddoughnutdisaster5531
@powdereddoughnutdisaster5531 4 жыл бұрын
"Oh no."
@DucatiKozak
@DucatiKozak 4 жыл бұрын
James, a full video in a lab coat & you couldn't use my favourite British word? Boffin!
@ericpmoss
@ericpmoss 4 жыл бұрын
Haha -- he found the source of the evil in those clear coffee drinks.
@koenigmoo
@koenigmoo 4 жыл бұрын
"One thing" - I'm a scientist and my first thought was "chromatography".
@juho6877
@juho6877 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a complicated man. I see James Hoffman centrifuging espresso, I click like.
@MrTwins95
@MrTwins95 4 жыл бұрын
I work in a lab, I do tests on blood and urine so watching you spin something down in a centrifuge and then eating the supernate just feels so wrong haha
@jameshoffmann
@jameshoffmann 4 жыл бұрын
This has been deeply cleaned, had a new rotor and these were brand new tubes to boot. Centrifuges generally freak me out.
@MrTwins95
@MrTwins95 4 жыл бұрын
James Hoffmann would me too. Reminds me of a video where I saw Gordon Ramsey have someone clean a toilet and then told them to do the bread test. If you won’t eat a piece of bread after wiping it on the toilet, then you didn’t clean it enough. But it’s like regardless of how well I cleaned it, it’s still a toilet!
@dwikafebrianto3016
@dwikafebrianto3016 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrTwins95 any youtube link of that Gordon Ramsay's toilet bread? I probably eat a slice of bread after wiping it out on my butt but, toilet....
@wendelleg2002
@wendelleg2002 2 жыл бұрын
Same here. Worked 30+ years in the clinical lab, and we used to use humongous old floor centrifuges to separate plasma from fresh whole blood units for neonates. And centrifuge urine specimens to microscopically study sediment in bottom of tube. So eating from a centrifuge tube seems so - YUCK!
@burnwithwater
@burnwithwater 4 жыл бұрын
I just loved the reaction after eating it, I knew it was coming. It never disappoints me when James tastes some terrible stuff
@linam97
@linam97 4 жыл бұрын
One of the things I'd like to see if the taste/solubility changes throughout the centrifuged liquid. Put another espresso through and use a micropipette to take samples from the bottom, middle, and top. Taste each one separately. They might have different flavor profiles.
@Quintinohthree
@Quintinohthree 4 жыл бұрын
In principle a centrifuge cannot change the composition of a continuous phase, it can merely separate discontinuous phases by density.
@MyWarriorInHiding
@MyWarriorInHiding 4 жыл бұрын
"oh no" XD
@Edyledyl
@Edyledyl 4 жыл бұрын
Test Idea: dilute the oils Why: Various flavor compounds have different threshold concentrations for our tongues to perceive them (e.g. Sugar has a high threshold which makes us seek more whereas a potentially poisonous compound has a low threshold to make us acutely sensitive). Overstimulation of taste receptors tends to produce a negative reaction that can mask other flavors (e.g. An overly salty steak doesn't really taste like steak). Diluting the oils may allow for other flavors to be perceived and may make it more pleasant. Possible execution: You could try emulsifying the oil water by shaking shaking it in water and then tasting.
@jnskm
@jnskm 4 жыл бұрын
Centrifuged coffee. Sounds geeky cool. Let’s launch a cafe here in Silicon Valley, CA. I think there would be a load of folks who would pay $5 per cup... er... beaker.
@Ratseeker
@Ratseeker 4 жыл бұрын
Be ready to wait for 15 minutes a cup. XD And noisy.
@tomr6955
@tomr6955 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ratseeker agreed, although it is cool it would cost a bomb to operate. You could get a dumbed down version which just spins it a bit
@kmbecker4
@kmbecker4 4 жыл бұрын
I work in a lab so seeing you drink/eat anything out of a 50mL conical tube feels wrong. Next stop is a bigger centrifuge so you can make an actual cup in one go.
@ianhu7755
@ianhu7755 4 жыл бұрын
What do you mean we biologists drink from falcon tubes all the time!
@andreealamzhanjia7814
@andreealamzhanjia7814 4 жыл бұрын
Just imagine drink all those tubed blood and weird solution 😷
@nicoleglazer7148
@nicoleglazer7148 4 жыл бұрын
What, you don’t mouth pipette anymore either? Lol. I love the carefully weighted conical tubes, maybe I’ve worked in a lab too long, I just eyeball blood samples and drop them in.
@SkittlemanAfricanus
@SkittlemanAfricanus 4 жыл бұрын
Going in the lab equipment direction, could doing pour over on a vacuum filtration setup be able to do a higher extraction faster?
@Quintinohthree
@Quintinohthree 4 жыл бұрын
Now I want to see coffee made with a Soxhlet extractor.
@mcdilldaniel
@mcdilldaniel 4 жыл бұрын
James, you really didn't have to put the coffee in an X-ray.
@jameshoffmann
@jameshoffmann 4 жыл бұрын
Now there's an idea...
@crapmarine
@crapmarine 4 жыл бұрын
@@jameshoffmann I don't know about x-ray, but I know that Light Scattering is used to determine particle size distribution in ground coffee
@mexicanhalloween
@mexicanhalloween 4 жыл бұрын
@@jameshoffmann You should borrow the X-ray gun from Cody from Cody's lab
@Zigguratxyz
@Zigguratxyz 4 жыл бұрын
You in a labcoat = amazing
@mx_nana_banana
@mx_nana_banana 4 жыл бұрын
we can now add centrifuge coffee to the list of extravagant coffee brewing techniques.
@wks99
@wks99 4 жыл бұрын
Exctraction method using centrifuged coffee has been launch by Nespresso and their Vertuo system. Look it up
@dwikafebrianto3016
@dwikafebrianto3016 4 жыл бұрын
@@wks99 I didn't know that. I think James should do something about that Nespresso thingy in his future videos
@davidthedeaf
@davidthedeaf Жыл бұрын
James looking at the spoon and saying he will have to eat it, with a grimace. Me shouting at my screen “EAT IT! EAT IT! JUST DO IT! DO IT DOIT DOOOITTT!!”
@AronBagel
@AronBagel 4 жыл бұрын
Next year at HOST: Coffee Centrifuge Robots
@hello285257
@hello285257 4 жыл бұрын
This “weird coffee science” is getting to be a favorite series of mine
@TheSamuelBauter
@TheSamuelBauter 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao Same.
@dwikafebrianto3016
@dwikafebrianto3016 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheSamuelBauter I think it is second best to soda coffee/clear coffee stuff! But he is already defeated to the soda coffee series
@jbwise2002
@jbwise2002 4 жыл бұрын
Would be interested to see you review the SPINN centrifugal based espresso machine. It’s actually on Kickerstar and just started shipping after 4 years in development.
@InnerFlame4
@InnerFlame4 4 жыл бұрын
Try making “french press” coffee with it
@CupocafeCoffeebar
@CupocafeCoffeebar 4 жыл бұрын
Mohamed Zolfakkar thats what I thought for me French press is a very dirty cup ...
@vinnyv9187
@vinnyv9187 4 жыл бұрын
What about a comparison with Turkish coffee to see how much sediment is left in it?
@dwikafebrianto3016
@dwikafebrianto3016 4 жыл бұрын
@@vinnyv9187 Yeah James should have an Ultimate Ibrik Technique he hasn't shared yet
@VladPsarev
@VladPsarev 4 жыл бұрын
I heard that a company has made a cold brew machine using a method of cold brewing where they centrifuge the coffee so that you can get cold brew taste in a few minutes instead of several hours. I know you aren't a fan of cold brew coffee, but it would be interesting to see how the coffee will taste with room temp water and coffee grounds spinning for a few minutes. The company's device doesn't spin as fast as the centrifuge, so that could be another test: how fast can you get cold brew coffee taste with a device that spins much faster? Love your videos!
@ted_maul
@ted_maul 4 жыл бұрын
The "Look around you" vibe is incredible :)
@davekerry7856
@davekerry7856 4 жыл бұрын
Can you see what we are looking for? That's right, it's bitter oils.
@potatotr33
@potatotr33 4 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see four (all post brew). one shot of espresso, and the equivalent brew of a V60, Chemex (because of their "special filters", french press. Just to see how things with different filtration methods effect the oils vs solids vs particulate left in the cup. Or some variation on this kind of experiment with different brew types
@SenioreMachiavelli
@SenioreMachiavelli 4 жыл бұрын
Oil eating moment FTW! "Oh no...". Great as always!
@jameshoffmann
@jameshoffmann 4 жыл бұрын
It still haunts me...
@jnskm
@jnskm 4 жыл бұрын
“Oh no...” That was the best. Okay: oil = bitter = bad.
@Reynevan100
@Reynevan100 4 жыл бұрын
Idea for a test using centrifuge: "How effective at filtration are different filtration methods/devices and filtration based brew styles (eg. paper filter coffee)" (Imho each time you should use grind size appropriate for brew type, not one type for all) The test would look like this: Brew coffee using v60/hario/metal filter/straight up brew in a cup then pour through a mesh sieve/mokapot/espresso/? When coffee is brewed, let's take mokapot, pour X amount into the tubes and spin, and see how much particulate and oils made it through. Taste test. (each time same time and speed and possibly nearly identical amount of coffee into the tubes) Then brew another coffee, let's say using a paper filter, when brewed pour as close to X amount of the previous test into the tubes and spin at the same settings. Compare how much/less particulate/oil made it through into the product, taste test. Which method filters most particulate? Which one let's most of it through? Which stops the oils best? Which let's the oils through? Is any of the coffees noticeably different in flavour after separation? Did any of the coffees need more time to separate fully? etc. Edit: youtube garbage comment system can't keep formatting correctly...
@SirPumbaEsquire
@SirPumbaEsquire 4 жыл бұрын
Yes. I'd be very interested in seeing the different paper filter compared to each other also (v60, chemex, kalita)
@dwikafebrianto3016
@dwikafebrianto3016 4 жыл бұрын
TL;DR I don't have a university degree or something to read your comment. Too complicated bruh. Please simplify
@Reynevan100
@Reynevan100 4 жыл бұрын
@@dwikafebrianto3016 spin stuff fast to see things ;D
@veliar2540
@veliar2540 4 жыл бұрын
This man is absolutely insane. And it is definitely what I like about him. Thank you for the effort you put in these videos, James!
@tulkasTM
@tulkasTM 4 жыл бұрын
I haven't seen this in the comments yet, but the first thing I thought of was the spinn coffee maker (www.spinn.com/coffee-maker) when I saw the centrifuge. Would love to see if you could get one. I say "could" specifically because it seems to be in "preorder" now for well over a year so... entirely possible it'll never come to market, but would really be interested in your thoughts on it, even just initial thoughts without getting hands on.
@discovery91
@discovery91 4 жыл бұрын
4:20 shortcut for all „weird coffee drinks“ fans
@davidwallace3595
@davidwallace3595 4 жыл бұрын
This is true of so many endeavours: If you're not going too far, you're not going far enough.
@shermano2153
@shermano2153 4 жыл бұрын
"Just when i Thought it was ok to speak about brewed coffee, they pulled me back in"
@zachpw
@zachpw 4 жыл бұрын
There's a centrifuge made for food sold on Modernist Pantry. It looks sort of like a food processor. Kenji has a video with the inventor and they make various herb steeped oils etc. It costs a cool $700 but would probably be easier to use for separating grounds from coffee if that were to become a new popular method. I tried to do what you did in college but the professor (understandably) didn't want me using the centrifuges that cost upwards of $15k on something that wasn't actually research. Something something "trying to cure cancer over here."
@PetWessman
@PetWessman 3 жыл бұрын
James: These need to be balanced to point one of a gram. Me: Wow, that's a very, very small amount of water. Also me: *works with literally these kinds of centrifuges in the lab, where we measure things by the microlitre*
@blzt3206
@blzt3206 4 жыл бұрын
It's been awhile since I busted out my lab-grade centrifuge
@jameshoffmann
@jameshoffmann 4 жыл бұрын
They just sit in the back of our cupboards, collecting dust...
@h4ve0
@h4ve0 4 жыл бұрын
I think the immersion-brewed coffee clarification could be made more practical with something like a Spinzall that can process fluids continuously using a pump. You'd probably be able to process product faster especially since you don't have to balance tubes or anything. It's still limited to 1L per 20 minutes though so it's still gonna be a bit of a hassle. On the other hand it's probably 10x cheaper than a lab centrifuge and there's (I think) much less of a risk of catastrophic failure, so there's that.
@jameshoffmann
@jameshoffmann 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve wanted a good excuse for a Spinzall for a while...
@dancheddesingh5588
@dancheddesingh5588 4 жыл бұрын
Have you heard of the Spinn coffee maker? It spins the bed in order to extract the coffee. Would love to see you get your hands on one.
@jonbunbury7027
@jonbunbury7027 4 жыл бұрын
5:01 "What is wrong with me?" 😂
@GamingMafia_id
@GamingMafia_id 4 жыл бұрын
"What are you doing hon?" James: 8:33
@unknownmemoirs
@unknownmemoirs 4 жыл бұрын
I'm here to watch James suffer. I'm watching for science.
@scz.mp4
@scz.mp4 4 жыл бұрын
as weird as coffee itself, but its my life♥️
@ithylegriffiths
@ithylegriffiths 2 жыл бұрын
Please review the SPINN coffee maker! I’d love to hear your take, obviously!
@AlvinAriesta
@AlvinAriesta 4 жыл бұрын
I wish I had this coffee hobby when I was a chemistry university student; I might get some weird ideas to test. Interesting thing is how dark the espresso liquid after the centrifuge. That means there are really more things dissolved in espresso, I thought the dark color of the espresso is mostly because it is a colloid. (It's still a colloid, but I thought the liquid would be clearer than that.) [EDIT: I do have to refresh my chemistry again; after a really quick reread, it seems that the separated espresso liquid is actually the colloid, while a normal espresso is maybe between a colloid & a suspension.] So did you use the same water coffee ratio between the espresso & the infusion? How different is the taste of the espresso liquid vs the ground-water mix?
@DirtySanchezE115
@DirtySanchezE115 4 жыл бұрын
Fml
@dwikafebrianto3016
@dwikafebrianto3016 4 жыл бұрын
Before I enroll in a master degree in computational chemistry and whatnot, could you please explain in coffee snobbery terms what are those colloid and suspension you talk about?
@AlvinAriesta
@AlvinAriesta 4 жыл бұрын
@@dwikafebrianto3016 Colloid and suspension are mixture types which is based on how two substances mixes together. Not really useful for coffee actually haha. To know which kind of mixture is usually useful for chemist to decide what kind of separation method that can they use. Your name sounds Indonesian so you may know "kopi tubruk". The sediment (ampas kopi) is actually mixed with the coffee liquid as a type of suspension. That's why it will come down gradually over time in the bottom of the cup. This process can be accelerated with a centrifuge machine like what James Hoffmann used in the video. Meanwhile, a colloid mixture is more difficult to be separated (requires special method). Milk is one example of a colloid mixture. There's another type of mixture, that is a "solution". Salty water for example is a solution, a mixture of salt & water. Tea water if I'm not mistaken is also a solution. Solution also requires a special type of separation method.
@dwikafebrianto3016
@dwikafebrianto3016 4 жыл бұрын
@@AlvinAriesta yeah I am an Indonesian. Thanks to you now I don't need to take a master degree in computational chemistry
@tsiggy
@tsiggy 2 жыл бұрын
Commentating, presenting, martial arts, stand up comedy, podcasting and now centrifuges? Is there anything Joe Rogan isn't involved in? 0:38
@irkallaxeynoxshen8777
@irkallaxeynoxshen8777 Жыл бұрын
New Video: what to do when cafe serves you bad, bitter coffee James: bring a lab centrifuge and run through it for 15mins and take the oil off
@MMBtbonecam
@MMBtbonecam 4 жыл бұрын
Just saw an advert for a centrifuge coffee maker called Spinn. They claim to make espresso at high rpms and flitter coffee at low.
@insomniafuel000
@insomniafuel000 4 жыл бұрын
James hoffman and labcoat. What could go wrong? Nothing he just centrifuge the coffee. Next week i want to see you live from Large Hadron Collider in CERN to collide the coffee atom to create DARK MATTER... or DARK SOLUTION, just 18 gram to become 36. Anyway.. actually i really wish i would see that centrifuge experiment will ended up with separation of black coffee solution at the bottom and clear water or clear caffeine at top.
@jameshoffmann
@jameshoffmann 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think this unit spins fast enough to separate out dissolved materials. I can maybe try a couple of hours of spinning to see what happens though.
@presbiteroo
@presbiteroo 4 жыл бұрын
Try this. If the oil absorbes the bitterness. Can you put vegetable oil in you expresso, spin in, remove the oil and try a bitterness free expresso?
@fraidknot
@fraidknot 4 жыл бұрын
Clarify butter with the centrifuge! Or separate cream from milk to make butter!
@MaxBeamer
@MaxBeamer 4 жыл бұрын
.1 of a gram sample matching for that centrifuge 😂😂😂😂 oh man the things they teach
@Summer_Lee
@Summer_Lee 4 жыл бұрын
The lab rat in me was shouting at you to use a pipette and proper techniques 🙈🙈
@irishbob26
@irishbob26 2 жыл бұрын
Does anybody else get mad rick sanchez vibes when he wears the lab coat?
@dzavelion
@dzavelion Жыл бұрын
Surprised you haven't reviewed the spinn coffee maker yet
@paveldruzba9824
@paveldruzba9824 4 жыл бұрын
Gorgeous :) and really interesting. But throught the first part, I have to say I have been laughing so much ... just the look in your eyes before you tasted that cake of oil :D priceless ..really. But seriously - you bring such an interesting experiments here, I am happy I dont have access to centrifuge too (I am pretty sure what I would be doing for next few days if I had ). There is only one point that I am not sure about - and that is difference of percieved taste/smell of concentrated oil vs diluted in colloidal solution. From my experience most of what we experience as pleasant smells/flavours when diluted is really unpleasant when present as a pure concetrated oil. So, it would be really good to check if the espresso without that oil was actually better or worse ... :)
@PhosphorAlchemist
@PhosphorAlchemist 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. It would be best to repeat the tasting of the centrifuged liquid espresso without the espresso oils in your mouth. They were clearly powerful and long-lasting, so they certainly influenced your tasting of the liquid portion. It's a bit like if you ate a piece of fruit after taking a teaspoon of vanilla extract; there's no vanilla in an orange and the concentrated vanilla extract is pretty vile, but darned if that orange in that order of consumption isn't going to have a delightful vanilla character.
@paveldruzba9824
@paveldruzba9824 4 жыл бұрын
@@PhosphorAlchemist Yes, thats also a good point ... though if I remember no one claimed the espresso tasted better without the oils, so ... I think it would be great to check if that is actually the case, but I was only thinking about the taste of concentrated oil vs taste of espresso with diluted oil. I have experience with the taste of the oil too (though not in sucha pure form) as both my cold drips and aeropres are prepared with metal filters so I keep as much of the oils as possible .... and when you try to freeze the cold drip (Not a good idea really :D ) the oils stay on the surface of the ice cubes not frozen .. so you can smell and taste them in a concetrated form. And its really not a pleasant experience, I remember it very well, but still when I compare aeropress with paper filter and mesh metal filter, similar clarity but the mesh filter keeps more of the oils in, I prefere mesh filter every time. The texture, body and mouthfeel all are kind of boosted :) But .. thats just my view ....
@jorge23483
@jorge23483 4 жыл бұрын
Well, with that lab coat James looks like the Bill Nye of the weird coffee science world 😁. I think the results with the espresso and the oils is to be expected because even when they are present in the espresso they are suspended and "blend" on an emulsify state in the liquid in the cup... So by separating the oils and concentrate them well, is the same as tasting any other flavor extract: a not so pleasant experience (trust me, I'd taste synthetically produce vanillina on a lab practice in university, it's yucky and probably toxic). As for the second experiment with centrifugal coffee brewing, I most say looks like an option when someones wants coffee and the lab's coffee machine doesn't work 😂... Sorry, sorry, now back to the uses of a centrifuge, well, it kinda looks an interesting method, it would be interesting to play with the time and revolution speed to see what happens to the brewing on the coffee and even maybe a different coffee grinding (🤔perhaps a finer grind) . I really find it interesting because the infusion looks more delicate and without any residues suspended wich can make less "sandy/dusty" the taste of the coffee. Who knows, maybe this is the beginning of a molecular coffee brewing style. Nice video, please keep with the curiosity for the betterment of the weird coffee science field 👍.
@GadgetViper
@GadgetViper 4 жыл бұрын
This centrifuge idea of separating grounds seems like it has potential. You could produce multiple drinks at a time and have good control over variables with spin time and speed. I like it!
@askroller
@askroller 4 жыл бұрын
Haha, no more "filter coffee", 5th wave - centrifuge coffee -shops- labs
@donovanmatthews3574
@donovanmatthews3574 4 жыл бұрын
Love your videos I'm from South Africa im a beginner batista and love videography just bought a hario set for making pour overs at home 😎😎😎 and your method in your book is my favorite
@MrWpiter
@MrWpiter 4 жыл бұрын
Rule number 1 in the lab: do not lick the spoon!
@glenmorrison8080
@glenmorrison8080 2 жыл бұрын
As a biologist who actually works in a lab with centrifuges and junk, I just about never wear a labcoat. It tickles me deeply to see you in that lab coat. :)
@thorstonk6348
@thorstonk6348 4 жыл бұрын
Would love to see some of that cocktail stuff in action, also it would be pretty cool if you got your hands on a more powerful solvent than water, ethanol maybe and then evaporated it off of the brew to make an instant coffee
@Story_Teller_Everyone
@Story_Teller_Everyone Жыл бұрын
Have you reviewed Spinn coffee maker?
@Epistemologics
@Epistemologics 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if you kept running the centrifuge, would you get a "clear" coffee eventually?
@dwikafebrianto3016
@dwikafebrianto3016 4 жыл бұрын
"Oh, no...."
@thestarsof2012
@thestarsof2012 4 жыл бұрын
Apparently we are thinking on a similar path because I was contemplating this last week, and low and behold, you have done it. Glad to see the final product worked the way I thought it would.
@emilang
@emilang 3 жыл бұрын
Will there be a review on the Spinn coffee machine?
@idontwanttopickone
@idontwanttopickone 4 жыл бұрын
Wow! Those urine samples are dark!
@mathewsteed6415
@mathewsteed6415 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Dr Hoffman. This was a great video 😀
@wildanrosyada7787
@wildanrosyada7787 4 жыл бұрын
Im not gonna skip the ads section, cuz this is science, need support for it.
@jukeboxhero1649
@jukeboxhero1649 4 жыл бұрын
This is the Thomas Dolby of coffee science . So there's really only one thing left to do.....rub that oil cap grease on the taint. Oh yes. How else can it's potency be determined? It's the most honest and "unaccustomed" area of the body. A true evaluation of coffee centrifuge cream cap mystery lipid can be known through the taint coffee blood barrier.
@yuugatenshi
@yuugatenshi 4 жыл бұрын
For the sake of science!! Thank you so much for this, it's brilliant ! On another note, fat and oils may not taste good on their own, but if properly homogenized and kept add an emulsion, they give that my smoothness and richness to eg soups or other beverages like milk. Definitely not surprised by how the coffee oil taste when isolated.
@5naxalotl
@5naxalotl 4 жыл бұрын
the low demand for centrifuging filter coffee seems easily achievable in a washing machine. the add-on device that would allow this would be cheaper than many coffee brew machines. i'll also surmise that a low tech centrifuge might simply spin a french press about its long axis. this avoids the difficulty of imbalance, and for the relatively large particles of (even quite fine) coffee flinging them to the outside wall is still going to dramatically speed their drop to the bottom. my own experience with a french press is that simply giving the brew a hard swirl means i push the filter through nearly clean water
@simonunwin3966
@simonunwin3966 4 жыл бұрын
Hmm drinking coffee from a container that looks like a solid johny is never going to be a good idea "Oh No.........." sorry pissed myself laughing
@andreealamzhanjia7814
@andreealamzhanjia7814 4 жыл бұрын
What a great video!! It takes a certain level of craziness and passion to do this! Its kinda funny when he is contemplating on drinking the coffee oil 😂
@Grumpist1
@Grumpist1 4 жыл бұрын
First costume change. This channel is really going places.
@jameshoffmann
@jameshoffmann 4 жыл бұрын
Haha! The true sign of success...
@DonYasuda
@DonYasuda 4 жыл бұрын
YES! A new mini serie: Will it centrifuge? Put on some safety glasses, don 't drink it, but please do for us.
@johannes4518
@johannes4518 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been looking forward to this the entire day. Finally!
@TNUni167
@TNUni167 4 жыл бұрын
You could also cold press the oils out of some Arabica beans. Would be interesting to know the oils found in Cold Brew.
@AbiCroCro
@AbiCroCro 4 жыл бұрын
“Have you tried something like this?” [spins around with coffee in my mouth]
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