The Ninja Cafe Luxe - A $499 Everything Machine

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James Hoffmann

James Hoffmann

Күн бұрын

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@db7069
@db7069 2 күн бұрын
Your reaction to the validation by the machine on your grind setting really did make me laugh out loud.
@Ka0sNinja117
@Ka0sNinja117 2 күн бұрын
Same
@mohitsaggar
@mohitsaggar 2 күн бұрын
Same 😂
@tobaccoffee
@tobaccoffee 2 күн бұрын
11:57
@jacobnoergaard
@jacobnoergaard 2 күн бұрын
Same! Funniest moment in a long time!
@albertoc.3792
@albertoc.3792 2 күн бұрын
He cracks me up sometimes. 🤣
@StartCodonUST
@StartCodonUST 2 күн бұрын
"The window of 'good' is maybe too wide" is certainly up there as one of the most politely British criticisms I've ever heard.
@kilgore_trout_37
@kilgore_trout_37 2 күн бұрын
😂😂😂
@merphul
@merphul Күн бұрын
preferable to tired comments about "participation trophies."
@ekjellgren
@ekjellgren 2 күн бұрын
How good is it at airfrying?
@TamarLitvot
@TamarLitvot 2 күн бұрын
😅😅🤣🤣🤣
@oalbrecht
@oalbrecht 2 күн бұрын
Version 2 will probably roast the beans for you using a built in air fryer.
@diogotranslator
@diogotranslator 2 күн бұрын
Overextracted, probably
@XielefR
@XielefR 2 күн бұрын
@@oalbrecht and the grinder can mix icecream?
@cullly
@cullly Күн бұрын
@@XielefR I bought a breadmaker (because I'm lazy) recently and when I read the instructions... it also makes Yoghurt and Jam. Maybe it can make coffee too?
@CobyPachmayr
@CobyPachmayr 2 күн бұрын
I have this machine and love it. I enjoy espresso drinks, but am not the audience that's going to spend 2x to 3x+ to get the perfectly brewed espresso drink. I don't enjoy long or complicated brewing processes, I have done pour overs, French press, etc... yet found the convenience of K-Cups to be too easy to make those my daily driver. But with this machine, it is now my daily driver and I look forward to making a very decent (to my taste) cappuccino or latte in the morning. It's not about less time. It's the level of what I get for the output of that time. I prefer a good (for me even great) cappuccino over the perfectly faffed French press in the same amount of time. That said I agree the filter coffee isn't that great... but that isn't what I'm making, and when I want filtered coffee I'll use my French press or a drip coffee maker... but still, it's nice that I can make it in this if I want to. And yes, the lack of being able to place two cups under the portafilter is annoying. As for durability, feel, and style... I happen to like it very much, especially at this price point. For me at least it seems moderately better build and style than it's $500 price point. The parts including the grinder, filter, etc are all easily removable, replaceable, and in two years, I'll probably be ready for the upgrade of this product should there be one. I love James because he inspires me to the ideal... and I very much enjoy the journey he has guided me on in coffee... with this machine, I've found my personal sweet spot of daily coffee for my personal daily grind in life. 😊
@davenottingham3254
@davenottingham3254 2 күн бұрын
I like this reply. I'm just deciding if we should go for this and your 'normal person' response has helped another non expert make his mind up! thanks
@domainpark4421
@domainpark4421 2 күн бұрын
Yea I would totally get this machine if I was in your category. It's pretty damned good value for $500.
@weeksweeks9552
@weeksweeks9552 2 күн бұрын
Great review!
@gosman949
@gosman949 2 күн бұрын
thanks for being a Guinea Pig on this product.
@Conservator.
@Conservator. 2 күн бұрын
My first machine was a Rancilio Silvia and my first grinder was a Compak K3. Together I paid €450 for them (second hand obviously). It took me a while to pull good espressos from it. In terms of longevity it must be a better option and if you don’t mind a steep learning curve I’d recommend going for used high quality gear. The learning curve however is steep.
@missilesaway
@missilesaway 2 күн бұрын
James Hoffman: "Lets get to coffee" Also James Hoffman: "When I went bowling as a kid"
@DanWalshTV
@DanWalshTV 2 күн бұрын
Totally on character for him, haha
@awgn70
@awgn70 Күн бұрын
Gold medal comment
@DanielEhlmann
@DanielEhlmann 2 күн бұрын
The way I see it, James saying this machine makes “pretty good” espresso, means that it makes amazing espresso by my standards. 😂
@robertb6889
@robertb6889 2 күн бұрын
Looking to get my first espresso machine at some point soon, when I have cash for one worth buying.
@RJayTurner
@RJayTurner Күн бұрын
Honestly, that was my take as well. If James Hoffmann didn’t eviscerate it completely upon contact, then it’s going to be just fine for my level of coffee drinking.
@EasyMoneySG
@EasyMoneySG Күн бұрын
@@RJayTurner exactly my thought. If its "ok" for James, its probably great for me.
@nomiguda
@nomiguda Күн бұрын
Now I mean there's two ways of looking at it. The first is that if you're coming from an area where you can't find a coffee that you genuinely enjoy drinking e.g. nothing but starbucks or worse around, and you are prepared to make time in the morning before to make a to go drink, this machine will improve your life and save you money. The other is that while there are a few bad coffees to be made at the start of your journey with a more typical benchtop grinder and seperate esperesso machine, and you would have to dial in manually with no help. But if you measure the grounds in and the shot out with something like a jewellery scale (cheap online) there's absolutely no reason you can't learn to dial in. Standard window is 18 grams in, 36 grams out (so a 2:1 ratio) in 30 seconds. Shot comes to fast, go finer, shot goes to slow, go coarser. There's really not that much to it. The results with a more typical setup just have a higher ceiling, because of the issue I will highlight below. You will be able to get excellent coffees on a regular basis, and you will have a machine that should last longer than what might happen with this Ninja. Not saying that it's guaranteed to break, but it is there first machine, so there are bound to be lemons, and that would suck at two years one month. As far as puck prep goes, some of it's worth doing, some of it is expensive with little to no upside. You can get into a WDT type tool if you want, that can help break up clumps, and help you distribute coffee evenly, and a funnel makes it easier to dump the beans into your portafilter from the container you're measuring the weight in. Both of these can be purchased as generic no label products on aliexpress or temu for not much money. But that's all you really need aside from a scale. And finally and optionally a spring loaded tamper (make sure to get the right size for your machine) can help get level tamps as well. The problem with this machine is always going to be the built in grinder. You can actually go quite cheap on the espresso machine, with something like a Bambino from your local Breville or Sage retailers, and then spend a bit more on the grinder and you will get some top notch results. If you want top notch steam performance for excellent milk, I recommend my machine, the Rancillio Silvia V6 M. The DF54 and big brother DF64v2 are highly recommended grinders, excellent value for the money flat burr grinders, and if you want the best value for money single dosing grinder the Niche Zero can't be looked past. You will be able to make some pretty good coffee with the Ninja. I just think that you will also be able to make excellent coffee in not a very long time compared with how long you will be using the same setup for with no reliability issues with a more typical setup as well.
@LGTVQHD
@LGTVQHD Күн бұрын
he also said " The window of GOOD is maybe too wide"
@TomsCoffeeCorner
@TomsCoffeeCorner 2 күн бұрын
Holy smokers, I can't believe James Hoffmann reviewed this. Just an FYI, I’ve run this machine on American power (110V at 60 Hz) and on transformed EU power (220V => 110V at 50 Hz). Both the grinder and pump performed better at 60Hz of course. On 50Hz I noticed the grinder getting quite weak on lighter roasts. But I suspect the EU specified models will be just fine when they arrive.
@JediMedi
@JediMedi 2 күн бұрын
Ich wusste das ich dich hier in den Kommentaren finde ;-)
@jameshoffmann
@jameshoffmann 2 күн бұрын
Your series on this machine is great, I really enjoyed it - especially the teardown one!
@TomsCoffeeCorner
@TomsCoffeeCorner 2 күн бұрын
@@jameshoffmann Thank you so much, sir - I’m blushing over here. ☺️
@jaredschoenbrun
@jaredschoenbrun 2 күн бұрын
Tom’s series is a home run
@atruceforbruce5388
@atruceforbruce5388 2 күн бұрын
James reviews everything and anything coffee. But if James wants some good coffee beans he should look up "fuego coffee roaters" out of rochester ny. Very fresh micro roast...stellar beans.
@samdempsey3037
@samdempsey3037 2 күн бұрын
Can't wait for James to give me my opinion on a machine I've never heard of and most likely was never going to buy, but will inevitably be ranked in my 'someday shopping list' based on his review... Sometimes I wonder if I actually like coffee, or if James has just convinced me that I do... 😂
@brianstraight9308
@brianstraight9308 2 күн бұрын
Agreed. I was actually like "a Ninja Slushiest Maker would be cool to have...."
@Hahahahaaahaahaa
@Hahahahaaahaahaa 2 күн бұрын
As someone that find coffee to be the most boring drug, which I use regularly in the morning via instant coffee, I find these videos absolutely fascinating. Like watching an astrophysicist talk about space. I'm never going there, but boy do I love watching passionate people talk about the things they know a ton about.
@edgar9651
@edgar9651 Күн бұрын
You should try the real thing one day.
@LGTVQHD
@LGTVQHD Күн бұрын
once i was a instant drinker, then i tried french press and never went back, and then i tried espresso, and boy i ain't going back to being french.
@nazeradom
@nazeradom Күн бұрын
​@@LGTVQHDsimilar journey to me, started at instant, went drip coffee, v60 and I've settled on aero press. Next big shift will be to a flaire espresso
@TheSrijanshukla
@TheSrijanshukla 12 сағат бұрын
Just try some pour over speciality coffee
@XIIchiron78
@XIIchiron78 10 сағат бұрын
There are actually pretty good instant coffees now. I like mount Hagen. Doesn't replace real brews but it's pretty good for rushed mornings.
@bentolmachoff
@bentolmachoff 2 күн бұрын
I sold my Breville Barista Express for this and really enjoy it. I’ve never enjoyed dialing in new beans, trying to replicate tamp pressure each time, and I couldn’t always fit to go cups on that. This solved all of it and the espresso is decent enough. I agree with most of the flaws, and have found going down one grind setting usually works best for the espresso. The cold brew is decent imo, but the rest of the drink settings are there mostly for show for me. If I want drip I’ll just use my Chemex. For me, this is a more practical machine, but I’m admittedly more of an amateur enthusiast at best and don’t enjoy the science of crafting a shot as much as I first thought I might, so this is a great machine for me. For professionals or people into the science part, I can see how this would be hard to recommend. But I absolutely am happy with my purchase!
@gosman949
@gosman949 2 күн бұрын
thank you for being an early innovator on this product.
@rrlabastida
@rrlabastida 2 күн бұрын
How do they compare with the super automatic bean to cup machines? At this price they are on the ball park and offer more convenience
@JimJimmington-e8i
@JimJimmington-e8i 2 күн бұрын
Fair reply. The machine looks interesting to me, but I enjoy "dialing in" as an overly involved pursuit of the perfect cup of coffee whether that be cappucino, latte, Americano, etc. But this Ninja machine intrigues the heck out of me and part of me wants it. Thanks for sharing your experience. This is helpful.
@ganyw
@ganyw Күн бұрын
@@rrlabastida Yeah I'm thinking about the same thing as well. If OP don't enjoy the science of crafting a shot, maybe it is better off getting a bean to cup?
@krehbein
@krehbein Күн бұрын
@@rrlabastidaI looked at the super autos before buying the ninja luxe. The super autos do more for you, but cleaning them can be tedious. The luxe has logic where it tells you the grind size and adjusts amount to get an ideal extraction. Very helpful.
@timw180
@timw180 2 күн бұрын
You know it's going to be a good James video when within 2 mins you get him saying 'I need to get to the core philosophy of this machine'
@simonohara9617
@simonohara9617 2 күн бұрын
It looks clunky, but Ninja does this. Initial versions are functional but flawed. What is admirable is the speed and willingness to improve-they give the feel of an engineer-led company constantly tinkering (some good, some bad). Look at the Air Fryer-the first ones they made were basic, then better, then better priced, then improved (double-basket), and now double-basket in-line to take up less space. If they follow the same path (and there is money in them thar coffee machines) it will probably be good to look back at this in a year or so.
@gosman949
@gosman949 2 күн бұрын
yes Ninja has 100 engineers here in the States constantly improving their products. That is why, like cars, you should never buy the first.
@TheBRad704
@TheBRad704 2 күн бұрын
@@gosman949 My thought exactly. I'll wait for a Version 2 (or 3) that includes those refinements.
@rhycar1
@rhycar1 2 күн бұрын
Ninja's toaster oven-style air fryer is absolutely incredible. I hope their coffee-maker evolution follows the same trajectory.
@TromCrabst
@TromCrabst 2 күн бұрын
I just wish they would send this version to James as a prototype so we could skip the not great first edition
@Thetache
@Thetache 2 күн бұрын
Yep, never buy the Mark 1 of any new machine because everyone knows the "I had it first" hipster crowd are really just the large group Beta testers to get the "Jaysus how did we miss that?" bugs discovered for the design/build departments.
@adamradford8053
@adamradford8053 Күн бұрын
That "im in a nitpicking space, just let me go" was such a mood. I know that exact feeling
@DevAvidon
@DevAvidon Күн бұрын
It’s genuinely enlightening to me read all the comments from those who have and love this. I’ve been down the coffee rabbit hole for far too long (and for frankly a depressing amount of money) to naturally get the appeal of something like this, and my gut is always to try to guide friends who want to get into a nicer coffee setup around this price point to stick with filter, maybe splurge on a Fellow Ode or the like, and just get a clever dripper or a V60 switch. But watching this and reading all the comments has made me realize I sort of took it for granted that you get into espresso as a hobby, when in reality there are plenty of people who don’t really want or need a new hobby, they just want a decent latte in the morning that’s not going to be fussy to make. I do share a bit of the concern about longevity (the sound that motor made at the finer grind settings made the hairs on my engineer neck stick up a bit), but if this is what tempts someone away from K-cups, I’m all for it.
@Firesofrevival
@Firesofrevival Күн бұрын
I do wonder about plastic pieces in the coffee
@shb8651
@shb8651 3 сағат бұрын
most sane comment in the whole section, thanks
@andrewbunoza7912
@andrewbunoza7912 2 күн бұрын
Hey James! I’ve had this machine for a few months now (bought it before it was even on their own website) and I have to say, it’s brought me so much joy. I love coffee and have wanted to explore coffee more. Although, I also have about 5 different hobbies and due to work, can only make coffee for myself on the weekend. Not to mention my budget was $500 max. So, this machine has been a game changer for me as it has brought me into the realm of espresso, while also guiding me so that I can make a relatively quick cup so that I can get to work on my other hobbies. So far I’ve had no issues with it and hope it will last. I actually went to complete your survey from a few weeks ago, but didn’t know how to respond as this machine does everything for me haha
@sdtok527
@sdtok527 Күн бұрын
How did you buy it?
@andrewbunoza7912
@andrewbunoza7912 Күн бұрын
@@sdtok527 was at my local Best Buy before they had it on their own website
@EmanuelKam
@EmanuelKam 2 күн бұрын
I've bought this machine a month a half ago and I've been really enjoying it. I ONLY make lattes and this serves my purpose. I wanted a bit more expensive machine, but that meant more messing around with settings and stuff around it and that does not work my partner. She has been using the machine more than me at this point and that's a win win. I think this machine is a game changer for this price point and very accessible to people who have no experience or will to learn more complicated process. Thanks for a great video!
@RyRyTheBassGuy
@RyRyTheBassGuy Күн бұрын
I'm in the same boat. I wanted a better machine, but I needed something wife could easily use. I still haven't found a bean I've loved yet, but everything has been good (and thats also part of the fun). I'll say this, I've made better lattes with this than what I've had from the majority of the coffee houses in my city. Which is pretty sad.
@krehbein
@krehbein Күн бұрын
Yeah agree with everything you said. I have the Breville Barista Express and really wanted something I had to fiddle with less. The ninja takes the guess work out for me.
@just_limerence
@just_limerence 2 күн бұрын
This is the type of machine that I (a professional barista at a cafe) wouldn't need, but my wife (WFH housing analyst who wants cafe-style drinks on her own at home) would love. I feel like it's not meant to give you perfect coffee, but be a crutch in dialing in a machine and learning how to actually make them. "New coffee nerd's first espresso machine" vibes in a good way
@brianhawthorne7603
@brianhawthorne7603 2 күн бұрын
I would love to see a Breville Barista Easy with this sort of Assist technology. But leave out all the bad filter coffee, warm brew, and other unnecessary features. Someone needs to make a $500 machine capable of making decent espresso and milk drinks.
@just_limerence
@just_limerence 2 күн бұрын
@@brianhawthorne7603 Exactly! Get rid of all the gimmicks and just give me a pretty nice $500 machine. I'd prefer a stripped down, solid version of a single thing than a watered-sown "all"-in-"one" machine.
@flea10x6
@flea10x6 2 күн бұрын
would love to hear evaluation by James of the auto/semi-auto machines like Jura, Saecco/Gaggia
@justgame5508
@justgame5508 2 күн бұрын
That’s the thing though, at this price point these machines aren’t for coffee lovers. There for the newbies or the work from home mum who wants a latte in the morning and can’t be bothered to drive to costa. The target audiences will think they are getting a great deal because of all the bells and whistles, even if they aren’t that great to us
@lf2334
@lf2334 Күн бұрын
Makes sense, but I can't tell a difference between the latte, cortado, and cappuccino that I "make" in this machine versus the varieties that are made at the coffee shop that I used to frequent. The coffee shop I used to frequent is very well known in the region to be the best coffee in the city. They even roast their beans in house. I find that if I use good beans, the machine makes little difference. It's obviously subjective, but I think there's a lot of advertising in the espresso machine world.
@SaltAndVi
@SaltAndVi 2 күн бұрын
I like the thoughtfulness that was put into the design. The Engineers were clearly given a price point and told to make it work. I like the tray that can be moved up for small espresso cups. This machine is definitely for people that like to switch up what they drink but don’t want to buy everything individually which would inevitably cost more.
@goose-lw6js
@goose-lw6js Күн бұрын
yeah i feel ninja has one of the best engineering teams for consumer household equipment (specifically NOT for power users). they somehow manage to come up with good technical solutions for all kinds of products with a clear focus on providing the best functionality at a low price point. design and longevity is not their main concern but their machines don't look super ugly imho and usually will last a decent time if you take care of them. they also give you some pretty useful info with additional videos, tips and recipes online.
@catbat06
@catbat06 11 сағат бұрын
yeah I don't know how to explain it but I feel a sense of respect from Ninja/Shark products. There's a genuine effort to make something actually as good as possible for the price-range. Even with the limitations on this machine I'm impressed by the innovation on show. If this was something targeted at me I'd be waiting for the next version
@matz4k
@matz4k 2 күн бұрын
The quad basket must be Lance Hendrick's puck-ratio dream 😂 Literally a <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="61">1:1</a> format
@LanceHedrick
@LanceHedrick Күн бұрын
lololololol
@gann0n1
@gann0n1 2 күн бұрын
Watched a review of this literally two hours ago and was thinking: I hope James makes a video about this😂😂
@kg-Whatthehelliseventhat
@kg-Whatthehelliseventhat 2 күн бұрын
Don't ya love it when that happens?
@RoosterCP
@RoosterCP Күн бұрын
Same but weeks ago for my first review video, been patiently waiting for this.
@Captn_Slow
@Captn_Slow Күн бұрын
The pure joy of getting the recognition from the machine on grind setting is priceless.
@tommangan7
@tommangan7 2 күн бұрын
The tamper pressing zoom edit at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="270">4:30</a> is the best edit ever on this channel.
@ValdrVideo
@ValdrVideo 2 күн бұрын
Tarantino energy
@mipmipmipmipmip-v5x
@mipmipmipmipmip-v5x 2 күн бұрын
The intern doing the editing stayed up late to finish that
@Dark00Wolf79
@Dark00Wolf79 Күн бұрын
Thank you! I totally missed this and it's amazing. :)
@petor95
@petor95 Күн бұрын
🎉 finally! Anyone else been waiting for this since they saw the machine come out?
@RomeoSierraAlpha
@RomeoSierraAlpha Күн бұрын
One thing I love about seeing James Hoffman review an item is how quickly I come to the realisation that I am not the target audience for an item like this without being made to feel like that's a bad thing
@dominicosborne
@dominicosborne 2 күн бұрын
Coffee Sandcastles just made my day
@Drawfield
@Drawfield Күн бұрын
Hames Joffman sound bite ready for the taking
@Paveway-chan
@Paveway-chan 2 күн бұрын
"Just give me one spout!" is a line Hames Joffman is going to have a field day with, I feel
@confusedwhale
@confusedwhale 2 күн бұрын
I hope Hames is doing well. They haven't posted since yt basically blocked/semi-deleted their channel, the channel was restored, but it might have permanently soured Hames to yt.
@jordanmiller42
@jordanmiller42 2 күн бұрын
There's also, uhh, "purge-hole"
@samuell.foxton4177
@samuell.foxton4177 Күн бұрын
The second espresso was for Hames
@3oxlizxo
@3oxlizxo 2 күн бұрын
I’ve had mine for about a month and a half and love it. My husband and I have not been to a coffee shop since buying it and haven’t wanted to. The taste of the lattes and coffees are always consistent. You definitely need to use freshly roasted coffee, nothing from the grocery store.
@daviz10
@daviz10 2 күн бұрын
Saw someone else review one of these the other day and was thinking "mmh I wonder what James thinks about this....." And here it is lol 😂
@SP.Learning
@SP.Learning 2 күн бұрын
saam i just thought about it yesterday 😂 well i guess ninja's sales are going down lol
@P-K-Ray
@P-K-Ray 2 күн бұрын
Yep, I watched 2-3 earlier this month and thought the same
@SamValiant
@SamValiant Күн бұрын
I reckon they're going up. James didn't out and out slate it, and that for most coffee things is likely a badge of honour.
@sullydog101
@sullydog101 2 күн бұрын
I've had one for a little over a month and I love it. I'm definitely the target audience. Not an espresso fanatic but like a good latte. I really like that it suggests the grind size I really don't have the knowledge or interest in weighing out my doses. I'd say it makes a better latte than at least half the coffee shops I've been to. Super easy to clean as well which is such a bonus, I got grinds all over with my last espresso machine. I don't use the cold brew or drip coffee so can't speak to that. Also the quad shot is pretty cool for making big lattes and a lot easier than running multiple shots. Nice overview of it though.
@austinkimbrell3548
@austinkimbrell3548 2 күн бұрын
For what it's worth, Ninja's video on this machine says for a quad shot you tamp once with the filter, once without. Idk how much of a difference that would potentially make (or how often folks use a quad shot), but it's worth noting.
@MikeySkywalker
@MikeySkywalker Күн бұрын
I like how James buys all the products. It makes me trust him more.
@SuicidalLemonade
@SuicidalLemonade 2 күн бұрын
TBH if i didn't have a grinder, espresso machine and v60 i'd be really interested in this.
@AverageJane222
@AverageJane222 2 күн бұрын
Oooooo intrigued to say the least... Edit after watching: super interesting machine - if Ninja can refine the design (improve the grinder, change portafilter to single etc) this machine could be a serious contender. Have to say... $500 is a bargain considering the tech and tools included. Very tempting for those of us on a budget i.e. unable to afford a good grinder and a good espresso machine.
@privatejoker76
@privatejoker76 2 күн бұрын
I bought direct from ninja and it was $450 and free shipping. In case anyone else is curious
@SomeRandomYouTuber2024
@SomeRandomYouTuber2024 Күн бұрын
The ES701 version that will be released in the UK (and ultimately elsewhere) will have a single basket. It will also have more settings, a level-tamper and more function like hot water to be able to make Americanos.
@AverageJane222
@AverageJane222 Күн бұрын
​@@SomeRandomKZbinr2024 👌🤝
@alialbattat958
@alialbattat958 2 күн бұрын
Finally when i first saw this on my feed i said James has to review this 🔥
@northernman22
@northernman22 2 күн бұрын
I think for the quad you are supposed to tamp twice, once with and once without the funnel, according to the manual
@speakatron5634
@speakatron5634 Күн бұрын
James doesn't read manuals! 😂
@loost68
@loost68 2 күн бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="726">12:06</a> is where I cracked up
@filmhaltig
@filmhaltig 2 күн бұрын
The fact that even the robot that should follow the scientific protocol with which it was created is changing its opinion to „yes, what James says“ is beyond hilarious!
@tiefighter5564
@tiefighter5564 2 күн бұрын
I think its just following a super simple algorithm. If the shot was too quick, lower the grind size, if the shot was within an acceptable range, then set recommended grind size to what was used for that shot. Im willing to bet if he pulled another shot at 4 then it would have set the recommended grind size back to 4
@ganyw
@ganyw Күн бұрын
"Brb making coffee sandcastle!" Never change, James. Never change!
@lf2334
@lf2334 Күн бұрын
I may be an espresso plebian, but I love this machine. It does everything that I want. Admittedly, I'm mostly a coffee purist. I drink black coffee made in an Aeropress 90% of the time, but when I want an espresso drink, this does the trick.
@ArgentIcon
@ArgentIcon 2 күн бұрын
Why is it so funny to see James so animated about "the double spout"? :D
@jasonemmons3827
@jasonemmons3827 2 күн бұрын
Perfect Hames Joffman fodder.
@brianhawthorne7603
@brianhawthorne7603 2 күн бұрын
My Breville Barista Pro came with a double-spout portafilter. I have almost never used it. If I am making coffee for two, it is rarely two single shots. And once you have all your kit out and the machine setup, pulling a second double shot takes seconds. The few times I’ve used the double spout. No matter how I arrange the cups, it dribbles over the edge. Can we just get rid of double spouts on home espresso machines? Imagine if they just shipped with a naked portafilter!
@coreycannon4511
@coreycannon4511 2 күн бұрын
Isn’t it ironic, that the only (conventional) portafilter that can house a basket big enough to make 2 shots at once, is a bottomless. Spouted portafilters are limited on how big the basket can be.
@Kiaulen
@Kiaulen 2 күн бұрын
@@brianhawthorne7603 I used to use the double spout to pull two half shots on my barista express (and then my miicoffee apex) because my wife prefers a weaker latte. Now I just use the single shot basket and I don't have to throw anything away or use two glasses. I'm totally with you though. Much easier to just pretend it's a single spout and pull twice (and dump the extra liquid if needed)
@thespacebar8643
@thespacebar8643 2 күн бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="890">14:50</a> DRINK THE QUAD SHOT JAMES. IT’S WHY WE ARE HERE.
@Brucefulness
@Brucefulness Күн бұрын
Ninja honestly in general makes great stuff across a wide range of things. Personally we have their batch drip coffee machine and paired with a solid grinder makes very solid coffee. Individual cups all the way to a 12 cup carafe.
@JunctionRunner
@JunctionRunner Күн бұрын
I always doubted James and never held much faith in his ability but now that I see this machine side with him on the grind size decision, I think he's been finally validated and vouched for.
@benjamindell435
@benjamindell435 2 күн бұрын
So good to see some review videos again. More please :)
@rayzormiracle
@rayzormiracle Күн бұрын
As a Lelit Bianca/Eureka Atom 75 , as well as a Aillio Bullet roaster owner, this takes me back to my first Saeco Italia espresso brewer grinder combo machine. I was tired of buying Starbucks coffee, and thought I would save money making my own. I did! And I started to love it, i learned to “dial it in” and started making a pretty good Cuppa!! I love that the ninja teaches you and sets you on your way. Obviously not something I’d buy today, but starting out!! What a marvelous idea!!!!
@mmac7764
@mmac7764 2 күн бұрын
I take this as a very good review for this machine. Every time James says “interesting” I think it’s him being reluctant to say “good” (perhaps unintentionally). I think this machine takes a big bite out of coffee snobbery: fancy gear, over the top prep rituals etc. There’s tons of appeal here for the more casual prosumer who values time and convenience over perfect extractions and scientific measurements.
@leeweber85
@leeweber85 Күн бұрын
I’ll stick with my breville barista express for now, but when the time comes to replace it, hopefully the tech in this will be the new standard in home espresso machines. So for that, I’m thankful for ninja and their innovation of home machines.
@louispretends
@louispretends 2 күн бұрын
I'd missed the simpler reviews videos, super excited to see this c:
@upforellie
@upforellie Күн бұрын
I as a coffee nerd have similar frustrations to you, however, my wife, who is not loves this thing because it actually allows her to brew decent coffee without having to bother me all the time
@buzsman
@buzsman 2 күн бұрын
Oh, just so pleased to see good old review on something🎉
@JaimsterTube
@JaimsterTube Күн бұрын
As an American, I agree with this machine 100%. Ninja just understands us so well.
@JulieWeigel-b7x
@JulieWeigel-b7x 2 күн бұрын
I just love James' exchanges with inanimate objects! 😅
@mrmistmonster
@mrmistmonster Күн бұрын
For 99% of people the Ninja version of any particular product will be great for them.
@prakharsinha4822
@prakharsinha4822 2 күн бұрын
This is honestly quite cool. It does everything reasonably well at a reasonable price. I feel like its a good value.
@TwelveBravo
@TwelveBravo Күн бұрын
Got mine this past Sunday, and I have brewed numerous espressos, and lattes. Since that’s what I primarily drink, I’m very happy with the purchase. I looked at the Brevilles, and though they are nicer quality, I can’t justify paying twice, or three times as much just because it looks nicer. Longevity, we will have to see. If I want drip coffee, I still have my regular machine. So that’s not an issue for me. To be honest, I don’t see myself ever using the “Luxe” filter. But it’s nice it’s an option if I’m in a pinch for drip coffee. I’m a total beginner in the coffee world. I’ve been drinking K-cups for the past 20 years 🤮. The Ninja has made coffee fun for me again, and maybe when I’m willing, and skilled to go further, perhaps a nicer machine may don my kitchen counter. Till then, I’ll be enjoying and hoping it’s durable enough.
@ErnstBolder
@ErnstBolder 2 күн бұрын
One off the best of the James i have seen in a long time. Thanks a lot😂
@n00dle_king
@n00dle_king Күн бұрын
Ninja has a team of great engineers making creative decisions to bring to market products you won’t get anywhere else at absurd price points. It’s probably not for this audience but I’m glad to have them in the industry.
@janellegodin2934
@janellegodin2934 2 күн бұрын
I've had the machine 5 days. We've tried the luxe basket twice, probably won't use it ever again. The standard basket seems fine. The coffee coming out is definitely better than the chain coffee stores but maybe not as good as the specialty coffee roaster where I buy my beans. Their machine is $$$$$$$. I am using fresh, local roasted beans and have been happy so far. I really like the simplicity of it. It means my teen can make his own cappuccinos. My pre-teen can make his own steamed milk or frothy hot chocolate without the risk of burning himself. I don't think I could trust him to steam milk safely in a regular pitcher yet. My kids think this machine is the best thing ever. I don't care for the cold brew. I prefer the taste and texture of from my phin drip over ice. With 4 people using the machine every morning, it's easier for everyone to make what they want vs using the French press (which is now too small for everyone) or the pour over, which I only have 1 or phin, which I have 2. I wish it had a hot water dispenser. The 5th member of our house is a tea drinker so we still need the kettle on the counter. My biggest issue with this machine is that the power cord is too short. It needs to be about a ft longer.
@Draconis8888
@Draconis8888 2 күн бұрын
Thank you for reviewing this device. Appreciate the details and humor.
@fluffy-cat654
@fluffy-cat654 Күн бұрын
I didn't think a coffee machine review could be full of humor without straying from the topic for a moment :) Great video!
@BEEFSTEWWW
@BEEFSTEWWW 2 күн бұрын
I did an actual splat laugh when you pulled the portafilter out.
@MissGimpsAlot
@MissGimpsAlot 2 күн бұрын
"splat laugh" is such a great term 😅
@MZulHariz
@MZulHariz Күн бұрын
Im watching James talks about the machine smiling non stop. Love his video Im so glad James make a review about this machine, hope one day it sell at Southeast Asia country.
@soul0merk
@soul0merk Күн бұрын
Great review! I’ve seen a few others, but you really highlighted some aspects that would personally drive me up the wall. Never stop the nitpicking! I’d love to know if you’ve tried the Sage Barista Express Impress (with the manual tamping lever) at a similar price point, and if you have any thoughts on whether it could address some of the limitations of this machine. I know it’s been out for a while, but it would be great to see a review on it!
@maxm7103
@maxm7103 2 күн бұрын
I was expecting your video on this machine to decide if it's a go... I really needed to see some serious, knowledgeable critique its qualities and functions - because the rest of the internet is full of praises - which I always find hard to believe. Thank you for helping us make informed decisions - this went on my Santa list, as the part that does well aligns with my needs :)
@larrylitmanen9877
@larrylitmanen9877 2 күн бұрын
I am just waiting on Holiday season in USA, this puppy is coming home to me.
@tormodnicholasmortontorger205
@tormodnicholasmortontorger205 Күн бұрын
Thank you for this! I'm one of the ones both in comments here on YT and TikTok and with tags have been begging you to do this. It honestly did better then expected, I'm someone that would love a full barista setup and make espresso and milk coffee from scratch, but haven't got the time, the money or the space so I end up using nespresso. It seems that with this I could actually get a decent espresso, or a decent milk coffee that i originally always wanted
@veYda25
@veYda25 2 күн бұрын
This machine made me realise one thing: Many of the others out there are overpriced for what they are. Great little innovations, I really really love it.
@bcutler23693
@bcutler23693 2 күн бұрын
Thank you James for doing a review on this machine. I've been craving a review on this machine from someone I trust. Thank you!
@Richard-lb9xe
@Richard-lb9xe 2 күн бұрын
You know its a good video when you see "nit pick - counter space ergonomics" in the time stamps :)
@adelinamiller5667
@adelinamiller5667 2 күн бұрын
I don't drink coffee but I'm here to watch THE MAN
@phillipvarao
@phillipvarao 2 күн бұрын
As a complete coffee n00b, this is a great machine to delve in. Coffee is certainly better than before and prefer it over some cafes.
@josephfleet9114
@josephfleet9114 2 күн бұрын
"we're in a nick picking phase, let me go" favourite quote 😂
@HiruS22
@HiruS22 2 күн бұрын
Nit picking 😉
@robduffin6803
@robduffin6803 Күн бұрын
Hahahaah the agreement on grind setting 3 reaction 😂😂 All hail the Hoff!
@valentinacudetoate
@valentinacudetoate 2 күн бұрын
Who is gonna take a coffee and drink it while watching James? 🎉
@zuckertante
@zuckertante 2 күн бұрын
Of course! Every time.
@iFireender
@iFireender Күн бұрын
The idea behind it is pretty cool. At University, we had this project running around for years about "automatically making the perfect espresso" and whatnot - which we always made fun of, because 'that's just a fully automatic coffee brewer'. This seems like a sane solution to that! Sure, it's consumer-y and plasticky, but make a 'commercial version', with an external grinder that's only attached over a wire (so you can replace it) / make the grinder, including motor, fully serviceable; and a better build quality and brew chamber in standard format (and use the specialized shape only for quad pulls)? You've got a great machine that's a step up even to breville/sage machines.
@TravelerNick
@TravelerNick Күн бұрын
There are commercial grinders that connect over BT. The machine tells the grinder to adjust the grind. The reviewed machine is aimed at the same people that would buy a bean to cup machine. Nothing wrong with that but it'll always have the same sort of limitations . If your tastes and beans match the machine design it'll be okay. The further you are the less happy you'll be. Dose is more or less fixed. Very few people are going to adjust ratio with these machines even if they read the manual. Obviously any upgrades in things like baskets or whatever will be hard.
@Coffee_Kev
@Coffee_Kev 2 күн бұрын
Excellent! 😃 I was wondering when you might have a play with the Ninja. I think the espresso with guardrails analogy is spot on. Absolutely agree with you on the excessive use of water, I'm constantly emptying the drip tray. I also got mine from the States, the 220v version though has a hot water button, an Americano option & a single shot basket apparently. My pre-ordered UK version is coming later this week so I'll find out for sure then. There's a "Pro" version coming out, with a tamp lever and no need for a dosing collar, with ristretto and lungo on the menu, and an extra thick milk foam option.
@EvanBlack11
@EvanBlack11 2 күн бұрын
I so hyped that you reviewed this. Im plan on getting this. But this review has heavy weight and I know that Ninja is watching this and make me extra hyped for the update or 2 version.
@ScottJamesIrvine
@ScottJamesIrvine 2 күн бұрын
ES601UK (the version launching first in the UK) will have another button for hot water and a spout to dispense it. This is why it costs more than the American (ES501) version
@davidmoscrop3021
@davidmoscrop3021 2 күн бұрын
It also has a single shot basket and americano function (with it now delivering hot water)
@MrWizardF
@MrWizardF 2 күн бұрын
But when do we get it?!!
@ScottJamesIrvine
@ScottJamesIrvine 2 күн бұрын
@@MrWizardF Funny you said that - I just got a notification mine has been shipped!
@AverageJane222
@AverageJane222 2 күн бұрын
Awesome! Thanks for the info!
@davidmoscrop3021
@davidmoscrop3021 2 күн бұрын
@@ScottJamesIrvine Currys sent me an email yesterday saying there was a delay, and that they should have it with me in around a week :(
@alchemistkj
@alchemistkj 2 күн бұрын
FINALLY.!!!!!!!!!!!... feels like i have waited so long to hear your opinions on this.
@Surai00
@Surai00 2 күн бұрын
I rented a vrbo that had a Ninja coffee maker. I spent the entire vacation trying to get that thing to make a good coffee. Keeping in mind that I own my own coffee roastery where I'm the master roaster and run all of the machines. I couldn't wait to get back to my 20 year old Saeco. If you want a good coffee in this price range, I recommend a Phillips Saeco and following their basic maintenance plan.
@richardburfoot8638
@richardburfoot8638 Күн бұрын
James, I already own a Gaggia Classic Pro and have no intention of buying this, but I couldn’t not watch it … your style is just so eloquent and prosaic, a true Brit presentation
@ryanh8764
@ryanh8764 2 күн бұрын
Looking fit James. I need to investigate that training thing you were promoting awhile ago.
@errgo2713
@errgo2713 Күн бұрын
What training was that?
@RoosterCP
@RoosterCP Күн бұрын
Been waiting for this exact video the moment this machine came out lol
@hrolvnir
@hrolvnir 2 күн бұрын
Love that this exists! Amazing for people getting into espresso.
@PhiDX
@PhiDX 2 күн бұрын
Been hoping for this review! I love this machine. This machine ended up being just $150 more than my starting setup (grinder, casabrews machine, and accessories). In my old setup, I found that I didn't enjoy the process of dialing in beans that much. My standard was just "can I get an experience similar to the average local cafe." I like to sample shots of espresso whenever I go out, but my preferred drink is an iced mocha. With this machine I got way better tasting espresso along with much less trial and error, AND way better mochas. I like that the default ratio is <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="62">1:2</a>.5, I think my palate prefers shots closer to a lungo. The built in accessories were also a nice win for me, I like having everything contained neatly. I share the same gripes with the double spout and oddly cramped space, but as someone who only drinks espresso and never filter coffee, I'm so glad I got this. It's removed all of the troubleshooting and allowed me to just enjoy the grinding, tamping, and tasting. I was also surprised that the machine's process doesn't include a WDT step, yet still makes decent tasting shots.
@MontgomeryPisswhistle
@MontgomeryPisswhistle 2 күн бұрын
It's clear that Shark / Ninja consulted with 'coffee people' (not the CORRECT coffee person 😉) on this and made decisions in the machine that suit someone that isn't a coffee fanatic really well. I'm hoping that there's a Ninja Cafe Luxe Pro on the way that covers the faults that James highlights, with stronger materials used. I'd love a Rancilio Silvia Pro X but I'm not at that point yet - a Pro version of the Ninja machine could fill the gap
@ericau6336
@ericau6336 Күн бұрын
When James says the espresso is "not bad," I know it would be great to me already.
@janghokwon
@janghokwon Күн бұрын
That moment he first revealed the portafileter, I spat out my coffee 😂
@wingedtoast7495
@wingedtoast7495 2 күн бұрын
Hames Joffmann is going to have a field day with the purge hole good god
@ellaisplotting
@ellaisplotting 2 күн бұрын
As he should 😌
@cignet
@cignet Күн бұрын
I miss these review vidoes. They're always so informative - it's the reason I bought my Gaggia and Sage.
@michaelt8282
@michaelt8282 2 күн бұрын
There is a shocking number of companies trying to do something similar to Sage/Breville. I have been using the same Sage espresso machine for over 8 years (still working nicely) and see NO machine at the same price that matches its quality. I mean not even close...
@michaelrossmaessler200
@michaelrossmaessler200 Күн бұрын
James thank you for taking the time to review a mainstream product in depth. 🙂 For some people who have smaller spaces/kitchens and would like a way to make espresso based drinks, this might be a way for them to begin.
@TheDusty0ne
@TheDusty0ne 2 күн бұрын
A very detailed review. But I think you should have tested it with darker roasts. It seems like you tested it with square mile coffee which is a medium to light roast most of the time. The target customer group likely won't spend much on coffee. It's literally an assisted machine for people who aren't enthusiasts and those people drink dark roasts in 95 % of the cases. So maybe it's not fair to review it based on specialty coffee😃.
@michaelrossmaessler200
@michaelrossmaessler200 Күн бұрын
Specialty coffee can be dark roasts, and some kick ass !
@matt18712
@matt18712 2 күн бұрын
I really liked the editing where you cut to your commentary but still show your reaction to tasting it. At first it was confusing to see you drinking but hear you talking. But then i realized it probably cuts a lot of dead quiet time from the videos. Kudos.
@Phorce
@Phorce 2 күн бұрын
Jack of all trades, master of none.
@equaleyez
@equaleyez 2 күн бұрын
Very often this is the case.
@DaveF.
@DaveF. 2 күн бұрын
No, but mostly 'pretty good' at everything. Looks like a winner to me - most of the downsides seemed to be nitpicking rather than massive problems. [edit] - oh, scrub that - just listened to the bit about filter coffee. What a shame.
@RoryStarr
@RoryStarr 2 күн бұрын
This was honestly much better than I expected. Good enough I can think of folks who I'd recommend it. Not me with my obsessive nature, but others who--generally--can enjoy their lives.
@anelbarco
@anelbarco 2 күн бұрын
I was wondering when you'd do this review 😁 I'm pumped! Hi from México 🇲🇽
@alwymitch2980
@alwymitch2980 2 күн бұрын
At the very least, one can appreciate the R & D that went into this thing. Everything about it seems practical.
@galactic_socialist
@galactic_socialist 2 күн бұрын
So my take is wait for the next version. For 500 it needs to be flawless
@lrlcd
@lrlcd 2 күн бұрын
So I saw some KZbinrs reviewing this machine saying it was good yesterday, and was very pleased to see a thorough review as always to reassure me that the alternatives are still the better ways to go.
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