Oh here's that eBook if you wanna get horizontal: bit.ly/FREEcompositionguide
@TraxtasyMedia Жыл бұрын
deadmau5 needs to hear this.
@lewisforsythe14039 ай бұрын
Well... you're helping. Thanks. The ambient synth thing you did on the last vid was so good, too. A little sonic linear journey of sorts.
@gplusplus3145 күн бұрын
Drummer here, and that's all I do. I'm a one trick pony. That said, I enjoy noodling with midi controllers and DAWs. The way you explained this really made a lot of things click for me. You essentially connected dots in my brain that already existed, but were disconnected. You're a fantastic educator; thank you so much for your unorthodox approach.
@BruceBalensiefer11 ай бұрын
This is super legit. Sometimes I just write by following the voice leading of each part where it feels like it wants to go, and "discovering" the harmony that way.
@sayelove20016 ай бұрын
ya i appreciate his effort and awesome content making skills... but tbh those chord progressions sound really muddy and the voicings (i.e. the structure of the chord) are a little too close (causing a bit too much of a rub... fine on a piano but not with that synth) which is causing the muddiness combined with the super long release. i appreciate the video tho... just wished he used a piano to explain it better instead of all the synths. but if i had that much analog gear i'd be doing the same lmfao.
@tobytodelafontena Жыл бұрын
NO ! I will continue coming up with chord progressions! I live my life as I want, you can't decide for me! Leave me aloooooooooooooooooone !!!
@noisemodule Жыл бұрын
in which JNJ nonchalantly establishes that he would make an incredibly accomplished Melodic Techno, Ambient House, or Goa Trance producer...
@RobertoFrobs Жыл бұрын
COULD YOU PLEASE RELEASE THIS TRACK FOR THE LOVE OF GOD
@Lagrange_Point_6 Жыл бұрын
Yup. Dance version slaps like all hell. Fantastic groove with lots of lovely intricate detail. Loved it. This is inspiring.
@JamesonNathanJones Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jim!
@beatjuggernauts Жыл бұрын
I was really hoping for something innovative like a blockchain AI creatine infused chord method but I was nonetheless inspired by this video. Good work.
@JamesonNathanJones Жыл бұрын
😂 the “creatine infused” bit got me fam 🤣🤣
@satanicconservative3935 Жыл бұрын
Using ai to create isn’t art. It’s a crutch.
@Herfinnur Жыл бұрын
Yeah, and for golly's sake, creatine is for lazy gosh darn dumbdumbs! Edit: Edited to less offensive words
@docjoesweeney Жыл бұрын
@@satanicconservative3935 I hear that!!!. But, I am so old that I recall the same thing being said about synths! All the tools we use to make music are just that: tools. AI will create new options for experiments for some artists. For many, it will be just be used to deliver the same ol' rehash. Personally, I enjoy learning to do as much by hand as possible, which it why I love modular and custom synth setups. Making it hard makes it fun. But I also think anything that lets people play within music is a positive.
@GravytyMusic11 ай бұрын
Are you not already using creatine chords?
@stateazure Жыл бұрын
Great video...Now I realise, I really need to learn how to write choral music. I feel like it would benefit me a great deal to study this. Thanks to the choral video you showed, I stumbled upon the 'Tenebrae Choir' channel here on YT, and I'm just blown away by how incredible their performances are and really got me thinking about how to bring this style into ambient.
@JamesonNathanJones Жыл бұрын
Highly recommend any and all of the Rachmaninoff Vespers. Some of the most perfect music ever written imo.
@jscj2066 Жыл бұрын
I love the Tenebrae Choir!
@stateazure Жыл бұрын
Amazing aren't they? Once I found them, I couldn't stop listening. Some of the most amazing group of vocalists. Their bass singers blow my mind. They have a playlist called 'Calming Music for Sleep' which is just incredible. Forget sleep, I'm studying the shit out of this stuff.@@jscj2066
@krnflks10 ай бұрын
Reading the section in the beginning of your ebook about voice leading rules brought me to an understanding of it that years of internet traversal could not. I love how in the example in the book (Chapter III) Bach is creating such a subtle bit of contrast by adding that 4th part which was almost like "introed" by the doubling. Looking at harmony with new eyes today because of you. Thanks. :D
@Hummelsbusch Жыл бұрын
Great video! I am a fan of drastic chord changes to keep it interesting. I often add 4th/7th/11th/13th notes to my chords, delete the root or just add the super tonic and make the chord „diffuse“. Let the bass anker the „feeling“ of the progression. Then it is nice to change the root of the bass while keeping the same chord progression which adds tension.
@brianlespoir6287 Жыл бұрын
I remember my first inversions, there was no internet and I didn't know a lot of music theory, I couldn't even remember what musicians tried to teach me, so I did all by myself. It was like playing triads and I wanted the notes closer together, so I started lowering notes. Before I even knew it I was adding bass notes and then I understood what everyone was trying to teach me. It's been a long time I took the time to find something interesting and will dig into these chord progressions, love not so familiar sound of these progressions.
@normietwiceremoved Жыл бұрын
Same here, I experiemented with inversions before knowing what they were when I was trying to play something by ear because I remember everything sounding so unnatural.
@brianlespoir6287 Жыл бұрын
@@normietwiceremoved My father and sister are musicians and we had many over the floor, somehow I was deaf for their teachings, but not for their musical tones. I learned everything by ear and when I understood what they where trying to teach me I learned pretty fast. Now It is very easy for me to teach others.
@scottbyrne5271 Жыл бұрын
I have a degree in classical composition. The literal first rule of voice leading is aside from parallel fifths (which are fine for pop & contemporary anyway) is that notes should resolve to the nearest member of the new chord and notes should only be added to add 6/7/9 notes. But I guess it’s 2023 and I’m old now. Good chat everyone.
@Bittamin Жыл бұрын
I play a minor 7th, run it through a sampler, then just play E,G,F and instant banger 😂 I also make basic repetitive house tracks so, just found something that works for my novice self 😅
@gabenght9316 Жыл бұрын
Would you be willing to point me to some sources on the matter you are talking about, please?
@foljs5858 Жыл бұрын
@@gabenght9316 Try a harmony book, e.g. Walter Piston's is a classic one
@albertoflanolombardo4155 Жыл бұрын
@@foljs5858Man, Walter Piston is insanely dense and long for a newbie.
@gabenght9316 Жыл бұрын
@@foljs5858 Thank you very much!
@alexr16329 ай бұрын
this actually is really helpful! I always made chords and then hoped and prayed that they'd work well together, but this is a far more consistent means of confirming that the chords will work together. Thanks!
@mark.sismore4 ай бұрын
Wow…thanks for this, I am a couple of years down the line from being bitten by the synthesiser bug, and as I have come to it with no formal musical training, experimentation has been my main go to. I have just discovered your videos and have been really inspired by them, turns out that I’m actually doing some of the things that you mentioned, but without knowing what they were…. Now you’ve explained it to me in a way that I can “get”, I’m even more inspired…thank you.
@CapelloProductions Жыл бұрын
You're my new favorite content creator. Been loving your videos, your humor is very natural and hilarious. Keep it up!
@JamesonNathanJones Жыл бұрын
Much appreciated, and welcome! 🙏
@gen-amb Жыл бұрын
Also French fried pertayters.
@XCompWiz10 ай бұрын
JNJ: "...the way that choirs work..." Me, a long time chamber choir member, hearing the music in the background: "Wait, that's Bogoroditse Devo." I've only found your channel recently, but I'm loving it. Thank you!
@ryan.noakes10 ай бұрын
My exact reaction!
@J-MLindeMusic Жыл бұрын
Four voices? Inversions? Heresy, in metal we only need two. Power chords go brrr. PS: The ending track indeed slaps.
@SylphDS Жыл бұрын
...I was actually reminded of the counterpoints on Opeth's Orchid while watching this video 🤔
@TraxtasyMedia Жыл бұрын
@@SylphDS or deadmau5 Coasted/Saturn
@yves_auger8 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@JamesonNathanJones8 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@goldbergermusic8636 ай бұрын
Hahahah! You made me laugh out loud with your creepy left hand at 4:36 and then sliding across the screen at 5:50. Hahahah.
@jarkkokangas615011 ай бұрын
Really nice concept, thank you! Those choir and string quartet examples helped a lot.
@slimyelow Жыл бұрын
The Ravel in F is one of my favorites.
@mathiasgammelgaard80369 ай бұрын
Tak!
@alexgrunde6682 Жыл бұрын
Another great technique as seen in the synth quartet example is, don’t have all the notes of the chord start and stop at the same time. It helps breath dynamics into the song and doesn’t feel amateurish like a series of whole note triads does.
@JamesonNathanJones Жыл бұрын
Yep. More line independence which goes back to making them all feel more like individual melodies. While one voice holds, the other moves and vice versa 👍
I've been writing canons with "normal" instruments playing them- your video is inspiring me to consider writing canons for synths and other non-traditional instruments
@secretchefcollective444 Жыл бұрын
Thats cool, I'd just like to point out that synths have been around for about 100 years at this point, when do they become traditional :)
@derrickmickle5491 Жыл бұрын
A fantastic and engaging illustration of voice leading. Well done!
@AntonMochalin9 ай бұрын
What I like with this classical approach is that you can quite often hint at next chord progression step with just two notes or a single note so you can be lazy and nuanced at the same time saving full chords for the moments when you need to be really persuasive lol
@Unison_Detune9 ай бұрын
This content isn’t available anywhere else….. fantastic!
@netuno605 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video. It was great. You are trying to teach us something like writing in simplified counterpoints, with three or four parts but not all the rules. I can write 2 or 3 (almost) independent melodies on a chosen scale, but as you said isn't so easy. I'm used to composing in the easier way: first the chords, then the melody( ies) that comes from repeat them.
@DETERMINOLOGY Жыл бұрын
True method with coming up with chords. Ear train. That's the best method not to many people will tell you about but they will give you "quick methods" Ear training covers all of that up
@somilgupta66667 ай бұрын
I found you yesterday and I want to say, I love you and your videos. They are so helpful and informative and perfect for where I’m at, thanks for being a great teacher!! :)
@TreyBruceable Жыл бұрын
The shade thrown in this video 🎉 love your stuff!
@marcus_ohreallyus10 ай бұрын
I'm very new to song composition and I just recently finished my first ambient track. I barely know my way around a physical keyboard and I can play a little guitar. I've found the visual aspect of my DAW to be extremely helpful in writing music, as someone who isn't an expert instrument player. I started to notice that specific shapes of melodies (in the piano roll) were giving me the sound I was looking for...almost to the point where I was kind of painting a picture -- which had a mostly horizontal sweep and direction.
@andycordy519010 ай бұрын
I came back here, prompted by the end of your more recent video on the Arpeggiator, having forgotten that you'd contextualised this exceptionally well here. Both of these now make inspirational waves for me. I may even set to work😱
@electrosonicnebula9 ай бұрын
Sometimes clever voice leading is correctly ignored because for whatever reason the "color" needed is *not* to employ inversions. Those long leaps can be thought of as just another flavor. Just like a triad can work better than an extended chord. Also, if you're working with modular in particular you might think of your voices as the voices in a choir or a quartet and forget all about chords. You can sit there and analyze it later to see what you've done. Or not.
@nightoftheavalon6 ай бұрын
I have been producing electronic music for the past few years. Although it can be challenging to create something that satisfies me, I find your videos informative and appreciate your fresh perspective. For what it's worth, I really enjoyed the "standard cliche dance syncopation" part haha.
@samuelivascu7633 Жыл бұрын
This takes me back when I was just a beginner on piano and it took me 2 months to get my first Bach piece down 😢 the words "Herliebster Jesu was hast du veebochen" are burned into my mind forever
@JamesonNathanJones Жыл бұрын
It’s a banger 😂
@marvin902x Жыл бұрын
"Herzliebster Jesu, was hast du verbrochen." Sorry, but I am german and your words doesn't sounded right for my german brain. So I corrected it.
@gen-amb Жыл бұрын
You are CORRECT, SIR! (Ed McMahon reference, nevermind)
@amsterdamned6209 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic sounds!!!
@adriansolis5362 Жыл бұрын
The irony is that the advert at the end of this video is the exact thing you were throwing shade at. That aside, voicing is something that I've been trying to focus on when making music. It really does go a long way to making good music
@JamesonNathanJones Жыл бұрын
Haha not surprised. They prey on any and all music channels. 😂
@goldbergermusic8636 ай бұрын
I just devoured your new e-book on Harmony. Played the examples. Learned a lot.
@KirklandWilliamsWorkout3000 Жыл бұрын
Love the synth Quartet. I grew up playing in sax quartet. This has actually helped me to arrange music on my 4 voice synth ms2000
@JamesonNathanJones Жыл бұрын
Great synth!
@panos324610 ай бұрын
Actually THIS is the only way to write music. It has the least friction for documenting what you actually hear in you and the final result that gets into your ears... Excellent video!😉
@Wolfbabypuppylove Жыл бұрын
Really like this content a thinking mans approach to composition/theory/production. You and Venus theory along with Benn Jordan rule the roost bravo excellent work.
@tobcom3542 Жыл бұрын
Fantastico, the final song is great, and i hear the richness of the chord-melody variations. Great
@jaqummh Жыл бұрын
I understood like nothing said in this video, but maybe I should try to concetrate on thing at the time. And it is good to test these advanced video tips every now and then and some beautiful day it will click!
@grimpiece Жыл бұрын
Thank God I came with the idea to search for "music composition" instead of "music production" and found your channel. Contrary to most videos on the topic, your are actually inspiring and they don't make me feel like doing math homework.
@JamesonNathanJones Жыл бұрын
Haha glad to hear it! 🙏
@tonyrapa-tonyrapa Жыл бұрын
Yes - that certainly jigged! Very nice work, indeed.
@fentanyljones6956 Жыл бұрын
Damn, i have a fairly good grasp of theory and this was extremely helpful and useful to me. Subscribing and downloading your book now!
@goodcircuit4485 Жыл бұрын
I really love chord progression like that, deadmau5 vibe
@kbuks Жыл бұрын
This just changed my life
@nathanfinnegan522 Жыл бұрын
Good old fashioned counterpoint. Love it! 👍
@CRayBeats Жыл бұрын
I like to write a lead over my chord progressions either 4 or 8 bars in length starting on the fifth or 3rd of the scale. I will then will add one or two long legato notes either the root of the scale or any pentatonic note that's in the scale under the lead melody. I will then arpeggiate that. Not the chords itself..
@darpsyxer Жыл бұрын
Holy ssshhh... , that's a very cool way to teach some chords, from start to finish! awesome man thanks a lot for doing this
@davidmcgirr Жыл бұрын
Great, as always. I recently tried to learn four part harmony, got stuck, and just start playing independent lines. According to an analyzer I used a lot of dominant chords.
@jdanielcramer Жыл бұрын
🤠 Dixieland!
@kostisv10 ай бұрын
driving into the sunrise kind of vibe. cool.
@MythMakerMusik Жыл бұрын
Oof! So lovely. The American Kiasmos. Lookin' forward to your full-length techno record that I am sure you are working on. Because it would be killer. For real.
@michaelkonomos Жыл бұрын
I spend too much time watching damn gear videos when this is what I should be watching. I have everything I need already to make great music - except the actual musical skills at this level! Thanks, this is super helpful.
@gen-amb Жыл бұрын
(Slaps own hand away from “buy” button again)
@benjaminleahy2840 Жыл бұрын
I'm working in ableton and with hardware as well. What are you working in?
@michaelkonomos Жыл бұрын
@@benjaminleahy2840 Ableton also, with a bunch of Arturia VSTs
@Glandulf19 Жыл бұрын
That synth quartet reminded me a lot of some organ pieces Bach wrote that my harmony teacher had us study, great work! I don't think I was the intented target of this video, already knew all that, but still loved it and will share for sure ❤
@davelordy Жыл бұрын
I bought a C# major from Unison, it's excellent, I use it everywhere, really punchy.
@balbinat Жыл бұрын
Nice one! (Again) Thx! Also: can’t wait for next week’s topic!
@francistomalik Жыл бұрын
Right,.. you just nailed it like it's nothing 😅
@SonicCartography Жыл бұрын
I just wanted to confirm that, yes, that does slap. Great video (and songs)!
@Jay-ru6kn Жыл бұрын
great examples! i do feel like this could be summed up by saying "mind your voice leading"
@JamesonNathanJones Жыл бұрын
Thanks! That would assume that all viewers were well versed in voice leading techniques, or had even heard of the concept before.
@sailingstar8176 Жыл бұрын
It kind of reminds me of the way I've seen Deadmau5 work, but using the piano roll rather than by playing a keyboard. He'll just plonk parallel notes down on the grid, then drag them up and down until he's happy with the intervals and harmonic progression. I get the feeling that he's thinking horizontally, using his ears, and not about chords or key changes. The end result is similar to yours, and to choral music, in that you hear a series of parallel melodies, rather than block chords. I guess you could do similar things with chains of clips in a sequencer - write a measure or two of melody, copy it and chain it, then edit the pitch of a note or two, and/or the rhythmic pattern, then keep repeating this process, to make the tune evolve. Then copy the original clip to another track, edit the pitches to make a counterpoint, then copy-and-paste to make that evolve too. I was thinking this out as I was writing, now I need to go and try it!
@remyvegamedia Жыл бұрын
Dang that's crazy. The EDM thing you put together solved my annoyance with that style of music. Same with most electronic instrumental hip-hop. It almost never has any musical development besides dynamic changes. I play jazz music and so much of how I write is thinking of how to blend the harmony I want with fluid melodic lines. I've gotta find a way to do this with a more melodically minded approach like this so I've been studying Ravel and Chopin for the first time in my life. Wish me luck haha. I need help hahaha.
@JamesonNathanJones Жыл бұрын
Love Ravel 🖤
@martintf7 ай бұрын
Loved this. Thank you very much!
@ashe_11 ай бұрын
'yeah but can it slap' - instant sub :D answering the question on everyone's minds!!
@WizardOfArc Жыл бұрын
I, too, wondered exactly what you meant when I came to that section of your book
@chambre466 Жыл бұрын
very cool and nice and all the good stuff. Great musician
@pixelbender58979 ай бұрын
7:40 has to be the coolest chord progression ever - oh how happy to see you toss the auto-chord methods where they belong. that is killing the creative potential of any producer/player behind a keyboard...thank you so much. SO inspired to start using my kicks to alter my pads...and...get a warm lightbulb to create with !
@adijames Жыл бұрын
It slapps.
@leadpipejustice9253 Жыл бұрын
Best music channel
@dreikycaprice Жыл бұрын
Can't wait for your release of more up tempo bangers
@JamesonNathanJones Жыл бұрын
Haha not sure I’ll be making a habit of it
@jexner8 ай бұрын
@@JamesonNathanJones My guess: you are "deadmau5"
@gen-amb Жыл бұрын
My own personal journey in music over the last half century started with SATB choral singing (both Broadway and liturgical) including choral hymn arrangements and eventually reaching into Gregorian Chant, and even a little choral direction. I was also a DJ. I thought that long experience made my understanding dated and worthless… “BORING”. Thank you for vividly demonstrating to me a validation of my own half century seeking musical relevance.
@bretdecelle3717 Жыл бұрын
This slaps. You just earned a subscriber :)
@alfasonicstudios Жыл бұрын
Great content! Love the mix of Theory, Synths & Humor 👍
@LondraCalibro98 ай бұрын
a very good lesson, thank you!
@irradix213 Жыл бұрын
Thanks again for the insight
@nicovandenberg_9 ай бұрын
This is why I love my Matriarch. Is does a wall of insane analog goodness as well as a light magical arp.
@suitandtieguy Жыл бұрын
This is great. Those of us with SATB experience know this instinctively but these basics of theory and arrangement should be discussed more.
@CoffinNachtmahr Жыл бұрын
Gonna go make myself use and borrow these techniques thank you 1000 times
@fentanyljones6956 Жыл бұрын
That P12 got me drooling
@badaegis Жыл бұрын
Slaps; yes. Love that soft riser and that snare; tasty af.
@L1ghtOn3 Жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks for the lessons, big Trance music fan and used to Dj during the 90s, early 00s was a special time for Trance music. I do like the drum bass used from the...I'm assuming TR-909/808 keyboard Synth Work flow? Your song is gd and I can see you love your stuff, best way to be, get stuck in. I was going to enrol in a music course back in 2002 but my life took a turn and it never happened, I had an interview and got shown around the campus, the cubase installed on the computers, the Analogue and Digital workflows in the studios looked fantastic, and they had Technics 1210s as well to use which I was very familar with from the clubs, it looked like paradise to me, but as I said unfortunately it wasn't to be. Nowadays I've just downloaded a DAW and trying to put together some ambient background music, which is fun and videos like this help a lot. Thanks a lot, all the best for the future. 👍
@Lordxfx Жыл бұрын
So tasteful Jameson. There is a reason, I buy all of your stuf. (Shut up take my money). The moment I discovered you, I felt you're this harmony slash melody wizard who loves rhythmic suggestions and actually hates the sound of clean drums. I'll soon be spending more time on music theory. It's a ton of work for a hobbyist cycling between sound design, technical setups, music style analysis, music theory, soft and hardware device knowledge .. I wonder when it's time to make music : ))))) Great vid!
@goldbergermusic8636 ай бұрын
JNJ says, "No chord exists by itself." Yup, that's profound.🧠
@alexfraughton9938 Жыл бұрын
While I imagine it's not something you'd pursue, I would definitely be interested in seeing more EDM content from you. This was a cool video and I really appreciate you showing the applications to dance music
@JamesonNathanJones Жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s not really my scene, but I respect it
@riccello6 ай бұрын
Instantly subscribed, and liked!
@TrekStar11 Жыл бұрын
awesome stuff, earned my sub
@JamesonNathanJones Жыл бұрын
Welcome!
@rodrigolaporte274 Жыл бұрын
This is excellent!
@lanierwexford2582 Жыл бұрын
Loving the click bate title for good old fashion basic information! Also it feels like you are imbeding the normal snark in the demos. Such good delivery!
@BeekuBird11 ай бұрын
Ascending progressions are also fine (e.g. Trans-Europe Express) just as ascending melodies are also fine.
@Dave-nm8uk Жыл бұрын
Reallly interesting. I didn't watch the Melodies video first, but went back to that one - very good. One comment though - why restrict composition to just one horizontal melodic line? That would lead on to counterpoint - but why not. Sometimes just "mashing" two or even more melodies - probably in the same key - actually works. If there are any harmony clashes - well either rewrite or experiment, or just say "too bad that's the way it is!" Your experience as an organist and pianist really shows up here. Your suggestion that Bach didn't really think vertically is interesting - though his compositional methods may not actually have been quite like that. He clearly was very talented, and by the time he moved to Leipzig he was producing so much music that in fact he was really running a kind of music production line - using his students - eventually many of them - to do a lot of the grunt work. It's really worth taking a trip to the Bach museum opposite the church in Leipzig to get just a slight feel for the magnitude of what he was doing.
@fentanyljones6956 Жыл бұрын
I definitely need to get my keyboard skills up
@davidsanfeliumarco9664 Жыл бұрын
Such interesting!!! Thank u so much!! Have u ever heard the song Saturate by The Chemical Brothers? Reminds me the one you played here 😅
@gen-amb Жыл бұрын
The irony of this title is hilarious. It took me a while to notice.
@allenholmankus8880 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video! How about a lesson on tonal counterpoint as applied to ambient style composition (and for some extra fun) as well as "EDM" music as you've done in this video? Keep up the excellent composing (I've purchased some of your works already).
@vvcv__00 Жыл бұрын
Reading and learning about basic voice-leading and harmony will go far. Spending time with this alone (you can get by with basic theory) should singlehandedly take the mystery out of progressions/harmony, while also expanding your bag of tricky-tricks. Nothing lends itself as a metaphorical magic key, or holy grail, to better writing (can you think of such a black-art for composing poetry or prose), but some reading -with videos to supplement- into voice-leading and harmony, will go a long way towards getting you through better, and faster, writing. If you want more than basics, one of the best books is by Edward Aldwell and Carl Schachter. However, you will need private lessons, with a composer, to work your way into the more advanced lessons it offers -if that's what you're looking for.