Jan-Krzysztof Duda vs. Magnus Carlsen Age 10 | Play Magnus App | Oslo Esports Cup 2022

It's time for the Play Magnus Champions Challenge on Day 1 of the Oslo Esports Cup.
Jan-Krzysztof Duda, the former World Under 10 Champion and current World No. 15, takes on 10-year-old Magnus Carlsen on the Play Magnus app!
The goal is to last as many moves as possible. But Duda is one of the few to beat Magnus Carlsen in real life and over the board - most recently at the FIDE World Cup 2021. Can he beat the 10-year-old version on the first try?
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[@shobhittiwari1220]

Expectations : lost to 10 yr old magnus Reality : Beats him in world cup semi finale

[@smmshoe]

and at the same day at the tournament

[@pushingyourownagenda9889]

ok wow didnt expect that . we want magnus carlsen next

[@iamable915]

Wouuu bring magnus to play against his 10 year old self...he may lose too

[@pratik4846]

Ya I am agree with you

[@sugihartopurnomo2299]

He already did. In his KZbin channel.

[@sharonpatil4354]

Nooo

[@ukwuezeuchenna433]

@@sugihartopurnomo2299 did he win?

[@ryomensukuna6933]

@@ukwuezeuchenna433 he lost the first one then won the second but there wasn't any time limit he took his time

[@heraldarnold437]

I've been exclusively practicing against engines set at 2000-2200 elo to practice more refined, positional play, and to grind down won positions. Engines set around this elo do NOT make blunders and will almost ALWAYS correctly defend against checkmating threats. The only way to beat engines at 2k+ elo is to capitalize on innaccuracies or small mistakes they make and continually build up the advantage. I've tested the lastest stockfish on full strength on my computer vs Arasan set at 2120 and 2200 elo on a DGT PI, which uses a Rasberry Pi. The engine and hardware differences are huge, but still, the Arasan plays Stockfish very solidly, and while Stockfish always wins, it's always in a grindy fashion that leads to some endgame with a 1-2 pawn advantage. It will sometimes be a huge landslide victory in certain positions, but for the most part the games are taken to the endgame. I have beaten the engine at 2120 and 2200, but it's because I'm using classical time controls and it's from long positional grinds by accumulating small advantages and grinding the computer down. Even a strong GM having less than 5 minutes to beat weakened engines is pretty crazy considering even weakened engines are almost tactically flawless and requires deep positional grinding, even for something like Stockfish strength, to win.

[@h0witz3r86]

Man, thanks for such a great explanation!

[@heraldarnold437]

@@h0witz3r86 Yes, no problem. A lot of people don't realize that an engine's elo is derived from its strength relative to other engines, not humans. Humans are very, very weak tactically compared to even low quality engines running on weak cellphone hardware. However, our strength lies in strategy and playing positionally based off the ideas and plans behind the strategy. I'd say the difference in tactical ability is so large that even an engine at 2k- 2.2k elo is on par with Super GMs in terms of tactics, until the occasional inaccuracies and minor mistakes, which they don't give it to you easily and requires you to grind them down to create such opportunities. In a short game, it will almost always be in the engine's favor since it's just about tactics. There was a guy, a long time ago, that openly admitted he cheated on Chess.com to achieve his rating of 2800+ by using a weak, unheard of engine with a rating of 2400ish relative to other engines. He had many strong GM scalps. And the games that he lost, he purposefully blundered to avoid suspicion. This essentially means he could've been rated a lot higher! Since the engine wasn't one of the standard ones Chess.com used, he was able to avoid detection and his moves weren't top Stockfish lines. A lot of people have this misconception that a 2800 engine elo means it's the same strength as its human counterpart, but that couldn't be further from the truth.

[@MonkeyDIvan]

@@heraldarnold437 I mean if an engine is set to play at 2100-200 strength, it's designed to play like an actual player of that strength. A human with a rating of 2200 is the same as an engine with a rating of 2200. Super GMs beat players like these 99 out of 100 times (slighthly exaggerating but you understand my point). What I'm trying to get at is that you're making it seem like it's impressive because it's an engine, and what I'm saying is that it's irrelevant whether it is or not; what matters is the ELO. Duda could've faced an actual opponent with the same playing strength as the 10-year old Magnus app and the game would've been about the same; win some, lose some. This time he lost, but let them have a first to 10 match and I'd bet my money on Duda. That's how ELO works. I beat an engine 500 Elo higher than me (a few times too), Eric Rosen has beaten Magnus and Nakamura before despite him being an IM. Things like these happen. If I play the engine 10 times I may win 1 or 2 and the engine will win the others. Duda just happened to lose this match, but let him play the engine a few more times and see who comes out on top.

[@heraldarnold437]

@@MonkeyDIvan I'm rated 2143, and from my personal experience, an Engine at 2143 plays completely differently. I've played hundreds of games between players and multiple different types of Engines set at 2000-2300 elo. I don't want to get into too much detail because I've already explained it well enough in previous comments, but one major difference is computers play consistently at the level you set it and at a certain elo range never commit blatant blunders-- unlike humans where even Super GMs can occasionally blunder mate in 1s and their Queens. Magnus Carlsen at age 10 was between the elo of 1600-2000. Far weaker than a Super GM, yet in all these videos it systematically destroys these Elite Gms with perfect tactical play with such quick time controls. Where are you getting this information about "it's designed to play like an actual player of that strength". I'm a bit confused as to where these Engine's get initially rated? Is there some hidden rated tournaments between that every Engine created plays tons of games between human players of all ranges without us knowing? I'm also a software engineer, where can you point me in the algorithms where it specifically tailors itself against humans of a specfic elo? I've also studied games of humans within the 2000-2200 elo ranges in Chessbase, not only from my own games, and I can 100% say there is a huge difference.

[@ajayi_semis]

Brilliant exposition, thanks man

[@pliniovellas3743]

I wonder how difficult is to think and play while people is talking around...

[@ivicapavic3381]

It's actually not difficult to get a good position against Magnus 10, even as an intermediate player, but once you reach the endgame, the computer will usually find a way to defend, or you will blunder and lose.

[@krishnaprasath9194]

Now I understood why 10 year old magnus crushed me 100 times.. It's painful more when I get tricked

[@alanstreetwars2258]

And duda won the Oslo esports!!! GGs

[@artanis5163]

Duda, nice lad.

[@zaheera6899]

They call it magnus 10 but the engine is way ahead of age 10 magnus.

[@flippert0]

Hmm, maybe not. 10 / 11 was the age, where Magnus began to become really good

[@edmorrison5645]

@@flippert0 Yeah, but not beating 2700 GMs consistently!

[@cesco7]

@@edmorrison5645 they are playing blitz chess and they are standing up with people around talking... they def aren't in their best conditions

[@flippert0]

@@edmorrison5645 I think the "age 10" has to be taken with a grain of salt ;-) Since this is practically bullet, the error rate of the humans is much higher than that of the engine. In a long game, the human GMs would all win

[@victorgodwin4458]

Jan-Consonant Duda

[@arturgrodzicki1209]

JK has beaten real Magnus at all time controls here and there so he has nothing to prove, why he's so chilled I suppose. I like his crazy style of play but maybe sometimes he needs to tone it down a litte, maybe in candidates?

[@coldtruth9431]

Sent the hounds barking up the wrong tree! Oof

[@alexanderpedersen1401]

Please have Magnus play Magnus :)

[@anything6002]

We want magnus carlsen next

[@GabrielSousa-nh3ib]

Brilhante!

[@beto9981]

Cara perdeu pro Magnus de 10 anos mds

[@robipindric7654]

Yeah.... i don't believe this bot to be Magnus rating at age 10. Like,not even a little. If i was Duda i would be really pissed. To use someone comming to help for your own interests and advertisment is just sad.

[@ThatCoconutGuy]

The app might actually be playing at an ELO rating that Magnus had at age 10 But it moves instantly so you can't think on the app's time + you have to deal with Kaja asking stupid questions like at 4:45

[@robipindric7654]

@@ThatCoconutGuy magnus was sub 2000 at that age no? So it should be easy for super GM to beat him

[@JimmyBoosterCrate]

@@robipindric7654 He was already 2000 at that age

[@robipindric7654]

@@JimmyBoosterCrate no he wasn't. You can see his rating at various age on Quora. But even if he was.....2000 ELO should be completely destroyed by anyone with ELO above 2400,let alone Super GM

[@JimmyBoosterCrate]

@@robipindric7654 Look at his FIDE page, not Quora. His rating in April 2001 was 2064.

[@otakurocklee]

I don't think these guys understand the concept of "as many moves as possible" for charity.

[@Bobby.Kristensen]

Really, who gives a shit? If they want to help charity then they should just fucking give them the money.

[@myst93]

Who could play with her yapping in your ear every three seconds, "WOW! WHAT DO YOU THINK OF MAGNUS SO FAR!?". Why not shut up and let him play ? Ultra annoying.

[@jakobsilvert957]

They gotta get a new host or just let David do it

[@PeakPotential46]

Nice try ! By Jan it's kind of impossible to checkmate a bot maybe 2400 but he still tried it.

[@hamsaveniharikrishnan1305]

They actually make players do this to promote their app, let's see them ask magnus to beat 3 year old duda or 5 years old Shaq , this the precise reason y Hikaru said he was not willing to play

[@PPdabest]

Good. Let Hikaru stay home.

[@Vdoggg]

sure they do, but why take it so seriously? HIkaru has no sense of self-deprecating humour whatsoever, don't see why he sets a good example here.

[@aqualino5378]

Man your funny

[@arturgrodzicki1209]

Duda knows it's just for fun,he doesnt need to prove anything,he has beaten real Magnus in all time controls and he's not narcistic asshole like hikaru

[@goldenhawx8652]

Lol nobody needs Hikaru here anyways 😂

[@robertk8829]

4:45 baba niepotrzebnie mu przeszkodziła wdając się w dyskusję w momencie kiedy ma raptem 1,5 minuty i analizuje pozycję

[@drewe9514]

That suspense music from The Peoples Court lol, 4:26

[@chrisc2503]

OMG that chessboard...

[@SunSnowGravity]

Magnus 10 has some tricks in his hat!

[@DarshanShah10]

Get stockfish to play Magnus next

[@sashoplamenov7501]

After black takes with Rc2, why white dosent playr Rh7 with idea Qh5 ? It seems like a good chance

[@jkla7031]

The commentators should not disturb the play.. 😭

[@twindl89]

It is ok to swear when your queen moved back to e2 from flanking, don't worry please

[@jmsaucedo]

Ya

[@probablybatmansadventures2121]

Seems like he could have mated it by sacrificing a bishop around 6:40?

[@raphaelteo1337]

Where is magnus

[@radscorpion8]

yeah but its obviously not magnus at 10, I don't know why people think they are comparable. If Magnus had a computer chip for a brain when he was 10 he'd probably have 3000 rating

[@ThePositiev3x]

they keep saying a weak engine Magnus, lol

[@Grahfx]

Magnus himself couldn't beat this engine lol

[@Pablit0Games]

I like your english very much.

[@yolow689]

just how???

[@Sanderus]

If he played seriously he probably whould have won. Still it's better for the app promotion if some GMs loose to it on a low settings.

[@sniffableandirresistble]

can you imagine beating that guy Pragg must be on cloud 9

[@skinnybonesjonestheallseei74]

It's easy to beat him just bring your friendly neighbourhood stockfish 15 nnue

[@smaklilu90]

I don't know what kind of BS they are trying to push. There is no human on the planet that can play 2 minute bullet with this kind of accuracy! Period... if you doubt my statement analyze these challenge games and compare them with top bullet games with humans and you will see it for yourself. this is not magnus at 10, this is stockfish with a name magnus on it!

[@ephemeritescience5306]

I love this challenge, to see these stupid GM get crushed by an app, they tend to have big ego, I don't like people with big ego so like fisher said I like champion get their ego destroyed

[@jyam2b]

Magnus will bully anyone even at 10

[@Kbax3614]

No

[@robertor.8008]

Girl you talk too much, just let them play

[@argonthesad]

The graphics on that game are so bad, lol

[@efthymiosn3381]

I actually beat magnus at 10 lol.

[@keironrodriguez3736]

In 2 mins?

[@BolBeats217]

@@keironrodriguez3736 more like 2 hours

[@Lol-qy1dy]

That "actually" sounds fake

[@krzysztofizdebski1223]

Ten years old Magnus won with adult man ;)) So sorry Jan Krzysztof ...

[@Lol-qy1dy]

Bot with no emotion and can't hear that woman chatting all through game

[@saltyragequit1234]

how about that black queen is that scary - wtf learn how to play a game at least :D

[@multiplewaya-qk7uq]

Why host looks like maid

[@Mikesco10]

wow... now im more happy about beating magnus 10 (although it took me like 30 min+ lol)

[@abraham1331]

how are they playing on PC? i thought it is only available as an app

[@amielz7]

Don resiiign

[@futbolsea]

Мне удалось только 1 раз выиграть у Магнуса 10 лет.....

[@Николай_Николаев]

За 2 минуты сможешь управиться?)

[@ephemeritescience5306]

The problem is time, I already defeated Magnus at age 10 myself, but with no time pressure