Canon's BIG Secret! | Was The 200-800 The RIGHT Choice? | Hot Takes with Duade Paton

[@j4kke046]

Awesome to see you both again in one vid! 🤘🏻😃

[@Duade]

Thanks, it was a lot of fun, Cheers, Duade

[@christopherstrehlo3751]

Definitely in favor of more the Jan and Duade team!

[@Duade]

Great to hear, Cheers, Duade

[@WernerBirdNature]

Hi Jan & Duade, thank you both so much ! Awesome you're making again a video together, like in my early "birding" days nearly 4 years ago when I was still using my 70D & EF100-400Lii and I haven't skipped a video of both of you since then (even when I maybe "only" commented 90%, heheh). Both living in Victoria back then made it clearly easier to shoot together. I've also become a fan of Glenn and the BirdPhotographyShow .. but nothing beats the magic between you two ! You both are responsible for turning an early passion into a strong addiction, and I'd be in huge trouble if I hadn't "contaminated" my wife with the same passion 😛 Even when I'm still resisting Adobe, I learned a lot from you and I'm grateful you're always open to exchange ideas. May life be kind to your and your loved ones in 2025 !

[@Duade]

Thanks for the ongoing support mate, we appreciate it, glad to hear you are enjoying photography so much. Cheers, Duade

[@WernerBirdNature]

@@Duade Thanks mate, birding provides the perfect balance for my daytime job !

[@MVBirdphotos]

Thanks Jan and Duade for this great year-end gift! Like many viewers, I've learned so much from both of you over the past few years - both technical and philosophical. It's wonderful to see you together, discussing photography and the things that inspire you. More of this in 2025, please - Happy New Year!

[@Duade]

Thanks for the feedback, we look forward to doing it again soon. Cheers, Duade

[@Cbresciani]

Great video of a couple of blokes just hanging out chatting about photography!👍🏼

[@jan_wegener]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@screamingcrow19]

Thanks for that duo. Definitely love to see more videos with both of you. Happy Christmas to you both and everyone here !

[@Duade]

Out pleasure, glad you enjoyed it, Cheers, Duade

[@adrian_div_photography]

Possibly my favourite photography video this year guys. Loved the casual nature and insight into your own journeys. So many things resonated! 👌

[@jan_wegener]

Thanks for watching, we had a lot of fun making it!

[@ww3688]

My 2 favorite Aussie KZbinrs! It is awesome to see how you both complement and feed off each other's ideas. Yes, I would love to see more of you 2 together! I agree - Canon 1 year warranty in Canada sucks! Have never used my mic port on my 3 year old R5 until i bought a Rhode six months ago, I never knew it didn't work and now I have to pay to get it fixed!

[@Duade]

Thanks mate, sorry to hear about the mic port. Cheers, Duade

[@nancyross2897]

Love you guys, so nice to see you together in one video. Giving is the best medicine for the soul. Merry Christmas to both of you 🎄

[@davidligon6088]

What a treat! Two of my favorite wildlife KZbinrs at once!!

[@ludowild]

It's great to see you both together again! Indeed associated with my R7 the RF200-800 is really a beautiful lens but for a few days I associated it with my new Canon R5 Mark II and there it's something else again I'm simply amazed by this combo! Best Ludo

[@Duade]

Great to hear, it is pretty incredible the gear we have today. Cheers, Duade

[@PinataOblongata]

Jan's yarns! Love the format. Thanks for doing everything you do, gents. Sharing the wealth!

[@marktaylor9579]

One of the most enjoyable photography based chats I've seen this year from 2 of my favourite photographer/KZbinrs. Thanks for all your output in 2024 guys, I look forward to more of the same next year, and possibly more chats like this? I hope you bath have a wonderful Christmas, and a happy and peaceful new year.👍🙏

[@Duade]

Glad you enjoyed it Mark, Cheers, Duade

[@michaellewis5921]

I look forward to both of you guys as some of the most authentic and unbiased reviewers, and also super informative with regard to all things wildlife photography related. I am still just a dabbler in wildlife shooting as I still consider landscape shooting to be my favorite photography pastime (along with astrophotography) but I always like to watch your videos especially Jan as they are always so well thought out and really helpful. If I ever do catch the bird photography bug completely I know I will be investing in some of your excellent training material. I consider you, Glenn, and Duade to me a real amazing trio of guys. Hope all 3 of you have a great holidays, and once again, thanks for all the hard work and early mornings that it takes to put these kind of videos together!

[@mattflorez2183]

Always a fun time with you both, definitely do more of these!

[@Duade]

Thanks mate, Cheers, Duade

[@Chris_Wolfgram]

Two of the best photographers on KZbin, or anywhere for that matter :) For myself, the 200-800 is the Holy grail for small bird photography. I think the 100-500 and the other brands of 150-600's are great lenses too. Just not long enough for 95% of my shooting. It kills me that I have "no choice" but to shoot with the R7. Come on Canon, please step it way up with the R7 Mk II !!! It's kind of funny to hear folks talk about a 1280 mm equivalent combo, like 'Oooh Aweee' ! :) lol After close 400K shots with a 1280 mm combo (I shot with 800 F11 a TON as well) this feels completely normal. Oh, and the vast majority of my shooting, is birds that are from 18-30 ft from me. Heat haze is never an issue ;) I still really like (prefer ?) birds in my face. But now that I have the 200-800, I can back off for a wider environmental shot > after I've taken 600 closeups, to insure 4 or 5 really good ones :) lol Folks often talk about "the cost" of the big primes in $$$, but one very big, often overlooked cost, is that of versatility. I would love to have an 800 F5.6, but even if I did, I think I'd only use it about 5% of the time, and that would be in situations where I had such low light, it left me with no other choice. Great video guys :) Thank you :)

[@DavidLemmon-zr9lo]

Yup - waiting anxiously for the R7 M2 too!

[@Duade]

Thanks Chris, I too can't wait for the R7II, that camera with any of Canons lenses for wildlife will be great. Cheers, Duade

[@sreejamck]

Cheers to team Jan and Duade ! It was really great seeing both of you together. Happy Holidays ❤

[@jan_wegener]

We're glad you enjoyed it! Happy Holidays to you too!

[@judyblionphotography172]

Another great video, the honesty and real life situations we can all relate too. Merry Xmas to you BOTH and see you in 2025.

[@Heatherth1]

This is probably one of my favorite videos with your thoughts and concepts of being out in the field with either friends or shooting on your own.Its really nice just to enjoy the moments in the field whether shooting with a friend or by yourself without the competitiveness.You certainly create a more individual approach to how you perceive nature photography on a whole.Thanks for a great year of informative content and breathtaking photography.

[@Duade]

Thanks Heather, appreciate the feedback, would love to visit your part of the country some day. Cheers, Duade

[@Joya5545]

So great to have you both together chatting, I hope this becomes a regular thing. I love my 200-800mm, I have the 100-500mm too but the 200-800mm is my go to lens for wildlife. Thanks to you Jan and Duade for all your great content, Happy Christmas and all the best for the New Year.

[@Duade]

Thanks for sharing your experience, Cheers, Duade

[@ChrisFilshie]

Great to see both of you on the 1 screen together. More of it would be great!. Your shared knowledge is really appreciated, so I hope you maintain your enthusiasm and enjoyment for yourselves and us viewers. Merry Christmas to both of you

[@JeffandLeslie]

At around 16 minutes, I very much like the environmental shots. It gives the viewer a sense of time and place, a little insight into where this creature lives, in what conditions does it live, and what one may look for if out in nature watching them.

[@jan_wegener]

Yes, it’s great when it all comes together

[@mitchconn7712]

Thank you both for sharing, always enjoy watching both of you.

[@MrCNMW]

It was a pleasure seeing you both again in the same video❤

[@bjrn-einarnilsen687]

Thanks for this video mates. I really loved it, and hope to see more videos like this in the years to come. With out a doubt my two favorite channels on youtube. Wishing you both, and your families a Merry Christmas, and a happy new year. And hope and believe that 2025 will be a wonderful year for both of you. Cheers, Bjoern

[@Duade]

Thanks mate, always great to hear from the community. Wishing you well for 2025 also, Cheers, Duade

[@TimSeraphiel]

Thanks guys. 🙂👍 Hope you both have a fantastic Chrissy and New Year.

[@jan_wegener]

Likewise!

[@Wildyorkshirephotography]

It is great watching the both of you chat and discuss stuff. You certainly work well together and I’m sure we would all love to see more of it. You both have a great unique way of delivering what we all want to see. Thanks guys.

[@megang1]

Great to see you both together! Happy Christmas! Thank you for the heads-up about the Adobe subscription price increase :)

[@daleroyal6449]

Two great guys who make photography a pleasure to be part of, May i thank you both for your hard work you put into your channels to bring enjoymant to so many people, I need Jan to try and learn an old Englishman the proper way to use light room as mine seems to be only used as a cropping tool😂😂😂😂😂

[@svendnrgaard4158]

Hi Jan and Duade, thanks for you both, both of you inspire me and have done it for years, I wish you a merry Christmas and a happy New Year

[@Just_because998]

Merry Christmas and a Very Happy New Year Jan and Duade

[@johncornell1738]

Delightful

[@MusikPiratCH]

Thanks very much Jan and Duade! This episode was a real Christmas present for me! *Merry Christmas to you all!*

[@jan_wegener]

I'm glad you enjoyed it!

[@lindaarndt9506]

What a great conversation! Love both of you! Thanks for the great videos. Happy Holidays!

[@desireneilson2168]

Awesome Video!! Motivated me again!!! Great watching the two of you together! Thanks for this amd Merry Christmas!!

[@Duade]

Thanks Desire, Cheers, Duade

[@jan_wegener]

Great to hear! Merry Xmas

[@allanwilliams2361]

Always enjoy watching both of you on KZbin. Old blokes can keep on learning. I can hear the Winton Wetlands calling again!

[@Duade]

Thansk Allan, very true, for some reason I seem to forget the lesson over and over :-) Cheers, Duade

[@mariannejohnson5357]

Two of my favorite ppl! Thanks for the enjoyable video and banter. Merry Christmas and wish you both much success in 2025.

[@jan_wegener]

Thanks so much, Merry Christmas to you too!

[@sarahbatsford4791]

I love this! My two fave pro's chatting, sharing, inspiring & fun. Keep it up please. Merry christmas🎅🎉🥂🍾

[@jan_wegener]

Merry Christmas to you too!

[@cathco9]

Great video, guys!!! I always watch the two of you individually, so two for one is awesome. I hope you do this again. In the US, yes, just a one year warranty. What do we do about this? I buy the additional Canon Carepak warranty for 3 or 4 years additional. It covers the camera or lens for accidental damage as well. I've just gotten used to thinking of this as part of the price of the camera or lens. It's worth it for peace of mind. I've already sent my 100-500mm lens in twice for internal dust cleaning and one time for a replacement of the first element of glass. All was covered, even the shipping cost both ways. I've learned so much from the both of you. Jan, your technical tutorials (camers set-up) on bird photography have been so helpful. Editing tips too. I finally started using LrC and Ps in 2024. Duade, your videos are so motivational as far as getting out and getting those photos. So many great tips for composition and environment.Your videos are very relaxing to watch. Plus, you have given us great set-up tips too, especially for the R5 II. Thank you both for an exciting, encouraging, and educational 2024. Yes, more of these dynamic duo videos, please, in 2025. Wishing you both (your families as well) a very Merry Christmas and a prosperous New Year. I can't thank you both enough. Thank you!!! -Cathy, NJ, USA

[@Duade]

Thanks for sharing, that is interesting Canon have gone for the upsell as opposed to including it standard. I guess each market is different and they adapt to what they can do. Cheers, Duade

[@JohnDoranski]

Great video. Look forward to you two doing several of these tag team videos in 2025.

[@perryelder5045]

Merry Christmas 🎄🎄🎄 to you two, thanks for all y'all do

[@richardhurst3368]

The J & D show, enjoyed it and look forward to future videos. Merry Xmas & Happy new Year to both of you.

[@tibtechtalks]

Thanks both of you for sharing your stories with photographic journey. I learnt a lot of photographing lessons from both of you. I wish you both Merry Christmas and happy New Year 🎄🎉

[@RobertMintonPhotography]

Great to see you two back together again, I used to enjoy your previous videos and its good to get a laid back conversational take on your latest endeavours. Keep up the great work. Nadolig hapus a blwyddyn newydd dda from Wales (Happy Xmas and new year)

[@adude394]

Brilliant! Two of my favorite YT-ers in one video! You never really know where your life's journeys are gonna take you, do you? I have 3 different degrees in music, yet the river had a few unexpected bends in it. (I'm 61, and still trying to figure out what I want to do when I grow up. 😉) Jan, how are you enjoying the R1 for your wildlife shooting? Happy Christmas (or whichever holiday(s) you may observe) to both of you. Looking forward to a great 2025!

[@foto-dk]

Merry Christmas, both of you! ❤ Jan, DK

[@jan_wegener]

Same to you!

[@buddahbud1]

You two have good videos about photos, videos, eqpt., local and setup. I appreciate hearing some about your personal back stories too. Be well and the best of the season to you and your families and friends.

[@jan_wegener]

I'm glad you enjoy the content, and I hope you have a great season as well!

[@gscottfuller]

Great discussion! Particularly enjoyed the topic of creamy backgrounds vs. including some habitat. I have become passionate about bird photography and recently purchased a Canon R5 and 200-800mm zoom. I find the F6.8-9.0 generally allows enough background blur for the bird to pop with 3-dimensionality but leave some clue as to the habitat. I'm OK with that and, as Jan alluded to, the prime lens perfect background can sometimes look a bit artificial. I think the public (vs. other photographers) probably appreciate some habitat and the connection to reality it provides. Thanks for all you guys do for us! Have a great holiday.

[@michelledalton6939]

Thank you both for sharing your knowledge! Merry Christmas to you and may you be blessed in the New Year!

[@jan_wegener]

Merry Christmas to you too!

[@roland-heine]

Thank you for your wonderful talk and your fantastic videos this year. Best wishes for 2025 and stay healthy.

[@kevins8575]

Lately, I've been routinely carrying BOTH the 100-500 and the 200-800 when I go birding. I often see things that require the somewhat wider field of view, but the longer focal length is perfect for smaller subjects.

[@barbarachamberlain6918]

Delightful synergy with the two of you! Keep up the great work. Happy Holidays!

[@normansuchorzewski1026]

Loving the video and also your praise for the 200-800. Unfortunately I live in the cold wet part of North West England and get loads of photos of ducks, swans and the odd Heron, a few robins and swifts. Nothing too exotic unfortunately. So the photos become somewhat repetitive.

[@JdilpkleRS]

Thanks guys! I have the 200-800 lens and haven’t been out with it yet. I’ll be teaming it up with my new R6 Mk2. Looking forward to it. I’m a new photographer and you guys have helped me very very much.

[@sonersabirli8172]

That was a great enjoyment to watch... Thank you very much an wish you both a very happy new year...

[@jan_wegener]

Thanks, I hope you have a great year too!

[@LeoDodier]

Merry Christmas, Duane and Jan, fun video. Thank you. Jan I love that you enjoy sharing, it shows. And Duade, you answered my question about going out aloneor with others, thank you. I wish you both the best.

[@Duade]

My pleasure Leo, Cheers, Duade

[@carollemarchand1299]

Many many outstanding stills and videos. I really like the shot of the castle where you got caught by a wave and your boots got wet. Superb composition. Your video of the turtle dove in the rain is so beautiful and relaxing. I could have watched all day.

[@bengterlandsson7921]

Merry Christmas and happy new year. Looking forward to see you in 2025.

[@jan_wegener]

Same to you!

[@Harry-bh5dg]

Great Vid, really nice to see you both chatting, When I met Duade 12 months ago he had just got his 200-800 and absolutely loved it. watching both of your vids I am learning a lot although I don't get to do it any where as much as I would like. The guarantee for Canon in the UK is 12 months, 5 years makes me envious. I had my R5 ii freeze the other day and to sort it I had to remove the battery so I hope if it persists canon will help me out.

[@marklaurendet1861]

If this will be a regular event it could be great. Especially if you both keep your overall styles. Jan seems to cover the high end and has a more commercial outlook and Duade the more every man level [like showing before and after crops] to me anyway. Hope you cover all gear from MU-43 to High end FF in your discussions as well. That way the content covers people who cant afford the high end FF gear and possibly dont need it and want say portability etc

[@jan_wegener]

Glad you like the format and thanks for the feedback!

[@lachlangraham1062]

😊Great chat, all the best for Christmas and 2025. I really appreciate all your work.

[@jan_wegener]

Cheers! Same to you!

[@DavidLemmon-zr9lo]

Loved the dynamic duo guys. More please! Thanks for the additional breakdown on the 200-800 - very helpful. Planning to buy as soon as I can find one in Colombia - at a reasonable price. Import fees are crazy. Quick question: thanks Jan on the eye-opener regarding UV filters impacting quality, but what about circular polarizars? I use them all the time to counter leaf sheen - even in dark forest interiors, and especially when it's wet. And I'm a little hooked on the added saturation they provide regardless. Would value any comments. Keep up the great work!

[@mw-wc4vw]

Really enjoyed this! Merry Christmas and a lot of fun in New Year with your photography.

[@jan_wegener]

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you as well!

[@jounihaapasalo8837]

You both are great. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and all viewers.

[@mikedotcom999]

Great chat. Can you guys please do this every quarter. Would make for a nice seasonal recap

[@talvinderchohan]

That was a great conversation guys... don't leave it too long again

[@jan_wegener]

Will do our best!

[@gacjack]

Merry Christmas boys keep the great content coming !

[@jan_wegener]

Thanks for the kind words and Merry Christmas!

[@michaelrousseau4373]

Awesome video love watching both your videos. Hope you both have a great holiday season

[@jan_wegener]

Thanks so much, you too!

[@glenbrown5916]

Great seeing you guys together. Would be awesome to see you both out in the field more, explaining to us hobby bird photographers how to capture those great shots you guys get, and the settings we should be using. Merry Christmas to you both.

[@stefanusrheeder4162]

12:27 hits the point home. Be carefull of pictures rhat are way to clinical. Here in South Africa in our bigest park you are not allowed out of your car due to risk of predetors, so buttery smooth backrounds is nearly always out. so habitat shots and composing becomes very important.

[@MarkusGebhard]

DXO Photolab 8 + Affinity Photo 2 is a great combination.

[@javaman4584]

Happy holidays to both of you. Since you have both tried all or most of the major camera brands, it would be interesting to hear you chat about the pros and cons, likes and dislikes of each of them according to your experiences.

[@andrewkeir2282]

My two favourite KZbin photographers together. 😄

[@Duade]

Thanks mate, Cheers, Duade

[@srendamnielsen1127]

Another great and interesting video. The two of you together works very well. I have seen some of your videos comparing the 100-500 and the 200-800, with focus on the long end. Would the 200-800 at all be possible to use for larger insects, butterflies, smal lizards and similar?

[@sfessen]

You guys are an awesome duo. Enjoyed your video.

[@lengt001]

I follow your channels both. Keep on the good work. Merry Christmas and a good 2025. Greatings Leo

[@TheMickebostrom]

Many thanks to both of you!

[@jan_wegener]

Our pleasure!

[@stephenthompson1998]

Enjoyable video gentlemen excellent photography.Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year from the UK.

[@jan_wegener]

Thanks, you too!

[@andrewkeir2282]

I love Jan"s evaluation of his style. And it has always been my thoughts that his earlier shots were too sterile. I loved his skills and amazing quality of shots, but now they are much more interesting. It is also an important personal skill to have to be self critical of your own work.

[@MarkAlderson]

Thanks Jan and Duade, great video!

[@jan_wegener]

Our pleasure!

[@LouisaLee63]

Great video! Love to see one that has you both in it.

[@michaelschmid6424]

Thanks for the enjoyable and informative content you both provide. Have a great Christmas and happy New Year. My understanding is that Australian consumer law determines the 'actual' manufacturing warranty on products based on a 'reasonable expectation' of the products life. That legislated protection may not be available in the USA.

[@hstein27]

Great to see both of you together! I'm on that grandfathered 20GB plan. Lately the performance of Lightroom Classic has not been so great...sucking up memory and slowing down randomly while editing. Also, generating previews seems to take a lot longer and eats up hundreds of GB on my C drive. If I import over 2000 photos I run out of space on the C drive! I've been using the 200-800 as my main lens for a year now and love it. Here's to a great 2025 guys!

[@jan_wegener]

Your process slowing is likely because you don’t have enough space on your hard drive, so it’s choking up the process

[@jan_wegener]

You could get a 1-2 TB ssd on the cheap that should help

[@eric.p.merlin3537]

My 2 references with these 2 words combined: “Canon” and “Wildlife” the latter being their key expertise of course .. This Frenchman 🇫🇷 enjoys your beautiful 🤩 landscapes and birds 🦅 🐦 from 🇦🇺

[@mvp_kryptonite]

That warranty in Australia should be the same world wide. But alas, it is what it is. Great video, have a good Xmas and new year!

[@Findoesphotography]

Great Video and what a great style of video would love to see more and more of you two in the field its great happy Christmas. 🐦❄🎄

[@marktimonen5359]

I personally use Luminar Neo. I'm only an enthusiast but I like owing the product and not having to pay a monthly subscription fee. I find it to work very well, at least for me.. :)

[@gailbisson7565]

Merry Christmas to both of you and wishing you many great shutter clicks in 2025. I really enjoyed the video and found myself wishing I was in the same room with you guys to chat!

[@MrTmiket0007]

Thanks so much for sharing another wonderful video like always Merry Christmas and Happy new year 2025 🎊🤗

[@jan_wegener]

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you too!

[@RetrieverTrainingAlone]

One alternative to photoshop (I used for years) is ON1 Raw 2025.

[@annaw.7815]

Thank you for your comment, I just bought that program!

[@TheXone7]

In Europe there is standard 24 months warranty for Canon products, but recently Canon offered +1 year after registration for some products, which is quite nice.

[@rezamostafavi1616]

Thank you both , during last years i lernt a lot from both of you , great hints and skills , always enjoying your videos , thanks a lot🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@jan_wegener]

Awesome, thank you!

[@paulkavsak1941]

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!!!

[@jan_wegener]

Same to you!

[@JosdeHorde-py3rz]

Great video. You must do this more often. You are complementary to each other. Have a merry christmas and a happy new year.

[@jan_wegener]

Thanks, you too! We will try to do more

[@amandaluker9268]

I bought the 200-800 to travel overseas and I’ve fallen in love with it with the new R5ii

[@ArleneBaverstock]

Merry Christmas Duade & Jan, I watch your video’s all the time as I’m always learning something new in photography. Just curious to know if either one of you have used the RF 200-800 lens on the R6 ii Camera and how did it perform. Wishing you both good health and prosperous New Year. Just wish Canon would come out with a 30, 32 megapixel full frame soon that is more affordable that the R5 camera. Best wishes Brian

[@heidiwegener7614]

Cheerful, entertaining, highly informative. A great video. Looking forward to the next.

[@kt6339]

Brilliant episode, two photographers I follow & have high respect for, interesting prior life careers…. I have that in common on law enforcement side Happy holidays! Hope you guys do some more content together / cheers

[@DanBetty]

Love this one !!!!

[@Duade]

Thanks mate, Cheers, Duade

[@kevins8575]

Re: Adobe pricing. I have an old version of Topaz Denoise, which i like. Paid about $60 a couple years ago. You can no longer buy updates to the single-apps; you have to buy the whole $200 suite. Then, updates cost $100 bucks for a year's worth. So, for me, I'm going to stick with the Adobe photographer's package and my old version of Denoise.