Fujitsu hybrid laptop-tablet SSD upgrade to their Lifebook UMPC u810 (u1010)

[@LOLHICRONO]

Seeing the Windows 7 install hit me with a wave of nostalgia for something that only feels like it was not long ago.

[@Vulioll]

This small laptop is simply amazing! I am loving your videos, you just know the type of tecnology I love don't you?!!

[@JanusCycle]

Yes, I do ;)

[@DieCastErn]

I still have U2010, I searched KZbin for an Fujitsu UMPC upgrade and never got anything. I found your amazing video finally!! Would be nice if you add UMPC or Lifebook into the title.

[@JanusCycle]

Thank you for letting me know. I have added both Lifebook and UMPC to the title. As well as the model numbers to the title. I have also learned that having had these terms in the description may not have been effective enough for being prominent in search results. Hopefully this helps others with finding this. I apologise for not knowing about these better search term optimizations sooner.

[@DieCastErn]

hastag #umpc #tabletupgrade would work too

[@NeonVisual]

Very similar to Kohjinsha devices of the same time period. I do wonder if it was a shell brand testbed for UMPCs from Fujitsu. Kohjinsha also used the brand name "VIA Technologies" for their other UMPC's

[@georgekane-be7lt]

I had one in the day and it was perfect for school

[@thisislilraskal]

cheers for sharing these devices mate. they definitely don't make them like they used to

[@kubujak1989]

I'd love modern manufacturers to have as much imagination as they used to have! With this form factor today it could be actually kinda powerful PC! The only possibility today is a tablet with a keyboard I think.

[@JaredConnell]

Today you can choose from a laptop, a tablet or a laptop that turns into a tablet. But they're all indistinguishable from each other, and they only come in a few sizes. There are no umpcs, no netbooks, no notebooks, just medium and large sized laptops and medium sized tablets.

[@nickthaskater]

GPD Win Mini that just released. GPD Win Max 2 if you want something a bit bigger.

[@randt0l123]

if only the Chinese didn't become the only ones to fill that market niche. we need more American\Japanese brands returning to making their handhelds

[@kubujak1989]

@@randt0l123 So true. To me as an European it's painful to see what happened to European tech industry. It's mostly dead. I still remember when Nokia was a golden standard of a cell phone and it was actually considered shame to have anything else - even a Samsung or a Motorola

[@mickeythompson9537]

Very interesting videos on the two micro PCs so far - and yes, please, do the C1 :-)

[@g.adrian2369]

Great device, I have this u810 with adapter msata sandisk ssd 32 gb and u2010 with 1.8 ssd sandisk 64 gb original zif, both works perfectly, u2010 touchscreen not working anymore, I don't know why. Thank you for this video :)

[@jessragan6714]

I wanna see LGR get his hands on one of these crazy things.

[@MaddoxRed]

Just got one of these from someone for free, need the cable but im excited to see if I can get it running

[@JanusCycle]

Nice, I hope you get it working. If you need a power supply you can also use a Sony VAIO 16 Volt adaptor. The connector is the same. I use them interchangeably all the time.

[@randt0l123]

i would really like to see you attempt an NVME modding of this netbook. i have pata zif updated the sony ux-50 model with a samsung 1tb 840 before and its benchmarks were absolute trash between multiple zif adapters. you can get wayy faster speeds using clover bootloader and nvme. its just bios limitations\challenges. compared to the asus eepc and pci-e slot to msata adapter with bios unlock rom undoing compatibility mode and setting ahci in its controller options killed those trash zif adapters. only good for installing cheap extra storage unfortunately . also would love you to do a video installing the unlocked firmware on some of your devices, i believe your vaio micro pc 2006+ handheld is compatible with the unlocked bios which you could use to boost the performance a ton especially installing gaming video drivers like chell x64 on windows 7+ etc

[@JanusCycle]

I am keen to do BIOS modding. I do have more to learn though.

[@randt0l123]

they have bios firmware that is unlocked that you can download. bios-mods forums have an available versions that work on most of the VGN-UX handhelds just not the ux50 which i was hella bummed they didn't make one for it. those bios firmware's are a must for old hardware. you flashing those nokias is more challenging. its only challenging to do your own bios unlock of a laptop that hasn't been done before....also for record the very common HP DV6000-9000 series from 2008is era also have a common easy to flash insyde bios mod that makes em really nice old laptops to use. the ones speaking of were the infamous black plastic lemon hps that came with vista@@JanusCycle

[@robertchamberlin2362]

Trying a linux version would be cool.

[@lollypopdrop1802]

Cmos battery video?

[@johndrachenberg2254]

Exactly what I plan to do with mine. I have Win7 (x86 of course) running on it now and use DOSbox and other emulators. I was with you until Windows 10... but then... Windows XP? ....

[@JanusCycle]

I have since re-added Win7 as dual boot, but I still need XP for legacy software such as the T68 phone flashing I did recently.

[@martinrascon1350]

Linux would rock on that mini tab pc

[@toadragethe5th]

I would agree, im surprised he didn't slap Debian on that thing.

[@scellyyt]

Reminds me of the thinkpad x220 tablet, I hold and use mine in the same way

[@inmatejason]

Will diablo 2 run on this? And will the pen touchscreen work when playing? Seems like it might be a good fit. Please let me know.

[@drrop3327]

How to update the windows 10

[@Mizai]

thats really neat

[@wmmkoo]

Have you seen any battery replacement on this?

[@rc9612]

so tiny, so cute. but still bigger than IBM PC110 )

[@Egg-dm9lz]

I got a u1010, how to upgrade the SSD?

[@JohnCV.]

sir can u show me where to buy cable hdd zif connector?

[@JanusCycle]

Yes, search eBay for 'zif 1.8' and you will find many products that are all zif!

[@JohnCV.]

@@JanusCycle can u help me find 1? cause only showing the HDD not the cable flex hdd

[@JanusCycle]

@@JohnCV. I see, if you just want the cable then I don't know. Maybe you could buy a product that includes cables such as, www.ebay.com.au/itm/165717291539?hash=item2695853213 Or you can try Aliexpress for just a cable, but I don't have much experience with that.

[@watchnerds]

What about installing android?

[@JanusCycle]

When I do this the video will be about installing Android on many different types of legacy x86 devices :)

[@watchnerds]

@@JanusCycle I think it would be interesting to see touch screen umpc having this OS. I remember one of my friend having this exact model when I was in my junior high around 2008, quite an intriguing device.

[@JanusCycle]

@@watchnerdsI agree this would be interesting to see. Thank you for the suggestion.

[@randt0l123]

would be interesting to see GPU driver tests on android, i've installed android on an old acer aspire one netbook way back when, when remix OS was still new and current. was an older model with first gen atom and sata 1 ports on it. with a samsung 840 pro SSD with 256gb of storage or so 2gbs of ram and it ran basic apps somewhat ok. i could stream movies from plex at the lowest graphics quality only its speakers were amazing compared to models made after. they have intel 945 or 950GMA and unfortunately the neutered graphics driver is what your stuck with when you run linux. windows performed much better using graphics driver mods like chell. i can't remember which graphics drive mod this one used they had different ones for different old intel GPUS. biggest flop with these old netbooks was the intel GMA trash gpus and having no hardware T&L functions and a wide chunk of features disabled having to run GMA Booster to get the clock to 400mhz and run unlocked bios to allocate a large chunk of your precious 2gb ram to the graphics card amongst sata mode being enabled in bios. i feel like with newer android OS versions would be too demanding without hacking the hardware a bit @@JanusCycle

[@ridzuab]

Can you pls share where to buy the msata adapter in ur video?

[@JanusCycle]

on eBay search for 'msata zif', you will find many

[@ridzuab]

@@JanusCycle Thank you for your sharing. Managed to replicate your efforts to replace the slow hdd to msata. Really appreciate it as i can play the old games that can run windows xp and before. Very fast reboot and installation as compared to hdd.

[@JanusCycle]

@@ridzuab That's great to hear, glad to have helped.

[@ammouse1493]

as for the SD card slot, whats the maximum size can it take?

[@JanusCycle]

Most likely 32BG SDHC cards and not SDXC.

[@znalyd]

maybe 3d print holder for the ssd

[@JanusCycle]

That's a good idea, the double sided tape is not the sturdiest solution.

[@elinapropiado658]

I put a 256 gb ssd with the adaptador and not work or detected in any side, any advice ?

[@JanusCycle]

I assume you have an mSATA to ZIF PATA adaptor similar to mine. And your 256Gb SSD is also mSATA. It should work because these all use the common ATA standard, including this Fujitsu model. It's possible your adaptor can't handle a 256Gb sized SSD. I don't have much to back that claim up except a thought in my head. Testing would need a smaller mSATA SSD to be sure. And my gut feelings are sometimes very wrong.

[@elinapropiado658]

@@JanusCycle yes is the same adaptor , but not detect the ssd , can be the capacity is to big for the lap?

[@randt0l123]

some device bios are very picky with those adapters i recall having problems with the sony vaio ux50 and especially the oqo model 2. was a major pain with some devices because of the zif cable not being perfectly in place. likely its the zif cable but like JC said they use all common ATA standard. i successfully used a 1tb samsung 840 msata across different devices with zif adapters including IDE laptop pin standards which the sony PCG XG-500 registered 938/9 or something like that GB i had to format the partition less then the max because the bios or hardware limitation couldn't read that far ahead but usually it will be detected despite capacity

[@Trinamarieshomeplace]

Try Windows 7 starter. Ultimate is so bloated it slows the umpc down

[@elinapropiado658]

The ram can upgrade to ?

[@JanusCycle]

Total 1Gb, no ram expansion slots

[@elinapropiado658]

@@JanusCycle and whats is the bigger ssd memory can support?

[@NathanVong]

Any change you will have the original system image for it?

[@JanusCycle]

I have all the drivers and apps for XP to 7. I may still have an original installation DVD somewhere but I don't remember which version of Windows it installs.

[@NathanVong]

Janus Cycle would you mind to shared the drivers for Win 7 and I have all the driver for vista.

[@NathanVong]

I bought one of this for 2nd hand for $60 with 3 batteries and original case.

[@JanusCycle]

@@NathanVong Here, drive.google.com/drive/folders/12jUM-CyKpSxqW2oqc8UpgYvv1zZtkR1w Let me know how it goes.

[@JanusCycle]

@@NathanVong Great score, it's a neat machine.

[@PlsCancelTTCL]

Cool

[@jcuomo3667]

Was there a noticeable difference in the ssd with the adapter as opposed to the hard drive?

[@JanusCycle]

Yes, the ssd adapter combo seems just as fast as any ssd compared to the slow and noisy 1.8" spinning drive.

[@jcuomo3667]

@@JanusCycle Thank you. Just picked one up and will do the same.

[@randt0l123]

those HDDS were the same ones used in apples old IPODS and they have relatively the same speed as a low end generic usb 2.0 stick in benches. what really sucks on the HDDS was the 4k random writes which the zif technology further choked whatever remaining power they hd. the PCI-E ssds in the asus eee pcs were a generation ahead of most netbooks in terms of storage technology they could become full fledged laptops if you unlocked the hidden developer bios functions even overclock the cpus to 2ghz i wish they'd return to making these again just with new hardware @@JanusCycle

[@AngelaBellidoLara]

Windows es lento para 32 bits.yo uso linux

[@rballwv]

Where did you find an image for xp tablet?

[@JanusCycle]

There are ISO images on places like archive.org archive.org/details/all_windows_dvd The trick is to use your Tablet XP serial key. If you use a standard XP key then the Tablet components will not install from the ISO and it will be standard XP.

[@yungbluce9892]

Look, What's I found, the prototype of GPD Micro PC!~!!

[@thegodhoward8037]

Hentai is art

[@dafphtthedislikeupdater7836]

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[@Weegeeguy208]

based

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@@Weegeeguy208 based on what

[@lezoriq]

Just got myself one of these but it does not have a charger. Will a sony charger (U50) charger do the job?

[@JanusCycle]

Yes, this works fine with all Sony VAIO 16 Volt chargers.

[@roycenimchuk8425]

Can you upgrade the ram?

[@JanusCycle]

Yes, but I think this uses SoDIMMs which are rarer than the machines they go inside.