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Japan's Last Hope? Nakajima's Ki-115

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Күн бұрын

Born of desperation, Nakajima's Ki-115 was an attempt to try something different. The plane was a bad idea both in concept and in excecution, but ironically started to set them on the right course, but it was way too late.
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@nomar5spaulding
@nomar5spaulding Жыл бұрын
"The Japanese Army Air Force and Navy didn't get along so well," is possibly the greatest understatement ever made about the war in the Pacific.
@TR4Ajim
@TR4Ajim Жыл бұрын
Was there ever an instance where a nation’s Army and Navy got along?😉
@mike-ph3fk
@mike-ph3fk Жыл бұрын
I'm curious how many casualties the mutual neglect each branch caused for each other. I'm sure it's in the hundreds of thousands
@kilianortmann9979
@kilianortmann9979 Жыл бұрын
The US Navy was probably only the IJNs second biggest enemy.
@ToreDL87
@ToreDL87 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I mean they assassinated each other. My friends and I make a point of it playing Japan in War Thunder, if we're flying an assortment of IJN and IJA we try to kill each other in the middle of a competitive match 🤣🤣
@berryreading4809
@berryreading4809 Жыл бұрын
I mean they had a few minor very civilized discussions about disagreements on occasion... But certainly nothing notewor... Oh nevemind it was the exact opposite 🤣🤦‍♂️
@CaveJohnsonAperture
@CaveJohnsonAperture Жыл бұрын
About Nakajima becoming Subaru. I used to work at the Battleship New Jersey (BB62) and during WW2 she shot down a few Nakajima bombers and the like. Low and behold one of our sponsors was Subaru as they had a local office. Always liked the irony there.
@SUPRAMIKE18
@SUPRAMIKE18 Жыл бұрын
It's also funny how the Rivalry between the Japanese Air force and Navy lived on in that way too, Mitsubishi vs Subaru.
@KawasakiKiteh
@KawasakiKiteh Жыл бұрын
We were military allies 1854-1933 and have been again since 1953, with a 20 year hiatus when the US elected a communist government.
@trooperdgb9722
@trooperdgb9722 Жыл бұрын
@@KawasakiKitehSure it was. Nothing whatsoever to do with Japans invasion of China.... an act condemned by most nations of the world along with the USA... (I suppose all those other nations were "communist" too?
@carloschristanio4709
@carloschristanio4709 Жыл бұрын
@@KawasakiKiteh fdr really wanted to help out his cousins in britian. What a way to galvanize the isolationist us than have someone fuck with our boats
@MW-bi1pi
@MW-bi1pi Жыл бұрын
@@KawasakiKiteh There have been 2 more Commie Governments elected in the US since F. Roosevelt; Obama and his puppet Biden.
@vipondiu
@vipondiu Жыл бұрын
10:23 I suppose after that many sorties, the superiors began to suspect he was not taking that kamikaze thing seriously. Poor guy
@neurofiedyamato8763
@neurofiedyamato8763 Жыл бұрын
At that point you are better off ditching and go AWOL
@lqr824
@lqr824 Жыл бұрын
6:18 "Most of the fuselage was constant radius to simplify construction." I would add that to my eye, once the plane transitions to a shrinking cross-section, it may be a perfect cone, which has similar benefits. (The term of art is "simple curve," as opposed to "compound curve.") The advantage is that you can just take a stock of flat sheet metal, cut the shape of the piece, rivet one edge, and bend it around the plane like you're putting on a band-aid. Shapes with compound curves must instead be shaped with manpower and equipment that may be in short supply. (The A-10 has mostly simple-curve body panels to aid field repairs. All other planes in US inventory require an extensive supply depot with every single replacement panel.)
@williamchamberlain2263
@williamchamberlain2263 Жыл бұрын
Good point.
@Flies2FLL
@Flies2FLL Жыл бұрын
What happened to Nakajima? It is a fascinating and not well known story. After the war was over, Nakajima and seven smaller companies, among them a scooter manufacturer, were grouped together in an industrial conglomerate. Among the first products was the Fuji Rabbit scooter, of all things. It was called Fuji Rabbit because of the conglomerates name, Fuji Heavy Industries. Eventually Fuji started building cars. The brand name of these cars? Subaru. Great video!
@Colt45hatchback
@Colt45hatchback Жыл бұрын
My uncle bought a fuji rabbit 200 as his first vehicle, he got my dad to bring it home as he had experience with motorcycles and my uncle didnt but wanted to learn (he was a bit slow apparently) my dad apparently was rather scheptical of this brand new japanese scooter on the bus trip to get it, telling my uncle it will probably have been a waste of money and so on, well, when my dad got on it and rode it, he fell in love with it, he loved the shape, it had plenty of power and so fourth, in fact he loved it so much that he tried to show off when entering the street my grandparents lived on and got thrown off it 😂 my poor uncle, brand new scooter with gravel rash down one side after 2 miles of ownership that he had not even ridden himself. My dad had it repaired for him, he had it for many years, my grandfather and dad were fascinated by it, my grandpa (ex ww2 aircraft mechanic for hungary) said it was very good, the japanese know what theyre doing, so from then on, they were converted to buying japanese vehicles, my grandpa got a daihatsu hijet two stroke van, my dad got a 64 toyota crown, and my uncle had the scooter untill the late 70's when he got an isuzu luv diesel, then every time a new model came out, he upgraded to the new one, untill 1995 when he bought his last isuzu rodeo dual cab diesel, he didnt like the next model, so he kept that one untill recently when he passed away. One little scooter changed a whole family of peoples outlook on japanese manufacturing.
@shakeydavesr
@shakeydavesr Жыл бұрын
That’s a cool story.
@Flies2FLL
@Flies2FLL Жыл бұрын
@@shakeydavesr I have a 2001 Subaru Outback LL Bean with the H6 engine; It is the one of the best cars I've ever owned. AND it was built in the United States, Indiana.
@Flies2FLL
@Flies2FLL Жыл бұрын
@@Colt45hatchback THAT is an AWESOME story!
@Flies2FLL
@Flies2FLL Жыл бұрын
I would buy your grandpa a beer...
@kedge7807
@kedge7807 Жыл бұрын
That dig at Subaru gave me a good chuckle!
@guylr7390
@guylr7390 Жыл бұрын
From the early 30s Nakajima was supplied with propellers by Nippon Gakki. At first wooden props because of the company’s fine quality making musical instruments and then in aluminum from 1937 on through the war. The machining equipment from the Hamamatsu factory was removed during the naval bombardment of the city near the end of the war and hidden in farms in the hills nearby. Nippon Gakki was the parent company of Yamaha Motor Company which became separate from the music company in 1955. The metal working experience and machine tools that made the props for Nakajima were repurposed by Yamaha to make motorcycle parts. Both Subaru and Yamaha are now partially owned by Toyota.
@jebise1126
@jebise1126 Жыл бұрын
is toyota still owned by toyoda family?
@anvilsvs
@anvilsvs Жыл бұрын
@@jebise1126 yes
@lqr824
@lqr824 Жыл бұрын
Hamamatsu is half-way between Tokyo and Nagoya, and is the home of Yamaha, Suzuki, and Roland music companies. Right in front of the station is a great music instrument museum. I'd highly recommend to any musician to get out at that station and take a look before continuing your journey.
@PxThucydides
@PxThucydides Жыл бұрын
"Because most Nakajima aircraft look great." Ouch! Burn! Subaru!
@reinbeers5322
@reinbeers5322 Жыл бұрын
"Nakajima, of course, became Subaru, a fact which surprises me because most Nakajima aircraft look great" Haha, couldn't be more true. Subaru wasn't much of a designer, their late 90s and early 00s Legacies are one of the few cars I really like looks-wise.
@mbryson2899
@mbryson2899 Жыл бұрын
Greg has obviously never seen an SVX, those are absolute art.
@reinbeers5322
@reinbeers5322 Жыл бұрын
@@mbryson2899 That's fair, but with the cost of running one it's expensive to even look at it.
@gregmuon
@gregmuon Жыл бұрын
I had to laugh at that sick burn. Good one Greg! Even though I'm team Honda, I in fact think Subarus look great, but a good burn is a good burn. 🤣
@964cuplove
@964cuplove Жыл бұрын
How about the wrx rally cars ?
@mbryson2899
@mbryson2899 Жыл бұрын
@@964cuplove Are those are the ones that look like a kiddie toy blown up to full scale?
@thomaslemay8817
@thomaslemay8817 Жыл бұрын
Pilots have never been Expendable they are some of the more valuable assets that any government has in their position on the other hand journalists and politicians are very Expendable there are thousands more people that could do the job just as well waiting to join. Historians on the other hand are also very valuable because they help keep a society from repeating their mistakes. Unfortunately the politicians and journalists don't understand that fact.
@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles
@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles Жыл бұрын
I worked for someone in mgmt. at an airline who said "pilots are like tires, we wear them out and change them". I'm not making that up.
@hokehinson5987
@hokehinson5987 Жыл бұрын
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles Sad affair that most, if not all bean counters wear blinders... McNamara sure did yet as inventive in stupidity he was, Mac was just trying to reinvent himself & keep his job...
@oldfrend
@oldfrend Жыл бұрын
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles if that were actually true they wouldn't be paid so well and there wouldn't be a severe shortage right now. my brother just switched careers from a good paying navy job to airline pilot cuz they're paying ridiculous bonuses for even regional airlines. whoever said that to you is just a soulless piece of shit.
@martijn9568
@martijn9568 Жыл бұрын
@Thomas LeMay I don't agree with that statement as any person in a profession is irreplaceable if they're good at their jobs. Sadly among journalists and politicians there are few that are that good at their job. The same can even be said about historians, but there probably aren't enough historians to make the bad ones visible enough.
@fafner1
@fafner1 Жыл бұрын
U.S. policy in WWII was implicit, don't send a person when you can send a bullet. The German Generals complained the U.S. Army depended too much on artillery. Evidently they had never heard the expression "if you have a big gun, shoot it".
@mlovmo
@mlovmo Жыл бұрын
"...which surprises me since I think Nakajima planes look great." Nice dig at Subaru.
@williamrobin2638
@williamrobin2638 Жыл бұрын
As pointed out by Mike Goodwin/Peter Starkings in their book on Japanese Aero-Engines, not only did the Japanese Army and Navy not get along, they developed their air arms independently such that each service had their own standardized specifications for aero engine components. So for example, a Nakajima engine might be identical in basic design for Navy or Army use, but an engine built for the one service was was completely not usable by the other service. For example, the Naval engine would have different pipe sizing, bolt sizes and even simple things like screws having a different thread pitch compared to a similar engine built for the Army. A reason why an Army identification for a near identical design uses a different naming system than the same engine design in Naval service.
@philipmunger2556
@philipmunger2556 Жыл бұрын
I don’t know what you drive, Greg, but I love my Subaru. My 7th in 30 years.
@jaym8027
@jaym8027 Жыл бұрын
I only needed two F-150s to cover thirty years.😁
@offshoretomorrow3346
@offshoretomorrow3346 8 күн бұрын
Yes, but because you're inside them, you don't have to look at them ( ;
@Jonno2summit
@Jonno2summit Жыл бұрын
According to the reference book, "Japanese Aircraft of the Pacific War" by Rene J Francillon, p241, "The all-metal wings had stressed-skin outer surfaces, the fuselage had a steel structure with tin engine cowling and steel panels on the front- and centre-sections..." "A variety of surplus engines could be used and were to be attached to the fuelage by four bolts".
@eliasprice7553
@eliasprice7553 Жыл бұрын
Hey Greg! If you're making more videos on Japanese aircraft, I thought you might like to know that the rules for pronunciation of Japanese words are actually very simple! Vowels always make only one sound, and are never changed by anything else. A always makes an "ah" sound as in "hall" I always makes an "ee" sound as in "field" or "oblique" U always makes an "ooh" sound as in "flute" E always makes an "eh" sound as in "egg" O always makes an "oh" sound as in "radio" These sounds always apply, no matter what combinations of letters are used, even with the "e" at the end of a word which is silent in English, it's always pronounced in Japanese. Hope this helps!
@princeofcupspoc9073
@princeofcupspoc9073 Жыл бұрын
Almost. Compound vowels can sound very similar to other western sounds, such as "ai" sounding like "eye." If you say "a" then "i" over and over, speeding it up, you'll eventually get to "eye." It's similar to the "r" sound being between "r" and "l."
@oldfrend
@oldfrend Жыл бұрын
@@princeofcupspoc9073 greg just needs to watch more anime. it's the only possible solution.
@stephenarbon2227
@stephenarbon2227 Жыл бұрын
Each of the letters a, i, u, o, e also have a long version, as in your example 'ai' given by Pincefcups..., and 'u' is not always pronounced at the end of some words; and 'n' varies depending on whether it starts a syllable or ends it: so not always straightforward.
@eliasprice7553
@eliasprice7553 Жыл бұрын
@@princeofcupspoc9073 I realize that it does get more complicated, but I was trying to keep it simple. With the basic vowel sounds you can pretty much figure out any pronunciation
@kimjanek646
@kimjanek646 Жыл бұрын
@@stephenarbon2227 I think it is but the „u“ has such a weak ring that you don’t really notice it and it just sounds like it’s not pronounced. Sasuke from Naruto sounds like Saske but that’s because s and su sounds very similar to unfamiliar ears and is not pronounced like the su in „super“ or „soup“. It’s more akin to the German ü sound.
@BlueBaron3339
@BlueBaron3339 Жыл бұрын
The famed actor, Toshiro Mifune's job during the war was training kamikaze pilots. I've often wondered if that played a role in his later life problems with alcohol. It's far more probable, though, that I have less than the beginning of a clue about what that aviation job was like, much less understand how Mifune felt about it.
@paoloviti6156
@paoloviti6156 Жыл бұрын
Yes, it is very possible that Toshiro Mifune's dedication to alcohol derived from training very inexperienced young pilots on a one way ticket. But it is good to remember that many Japanese people were simply traumatised from very heavy bombings they had to witness.
@BlueBaron3339
@BlueBaron3339 Жыл бұрын
@@paoloviti6156 That was my point at the end. In short, I very much agree with you.
@Mike-eq4ky
@Mike-eq4ky Жыл бұрын
@@paoloviti6156 except that you're looking at this from a western perspective. I think if you had the Japanese cultural perspective of the time you might feel differently. At the end of the day it was all one big epic tragedy that this war even had to occur but the Japanese were brutal Empire and they treated their own people with the same disregard for human life that they treated others....
@paoloviti6156
@paoloviti6156 Жыл бұрын
@@Mike-eq4ky absolutely true, again you are correct...
@Mike-eq4ky
@Mike-eq4ky Жыл бұрын
@@paoloviti6156... And I don't mean to imply that I don't have empathy and respect for these fine Japanese pilots, they were both products and prisoners of their time. When you look at those photos you realize it might have been you...
@SimplyTakuma
@SimplyTakuma Жыл бұрын
I looking those pictures and had a a very disquiet feeling. And respect on all pilots that made the kamikaze trip on a allready obsolete defence of my country. Hope we see no more things likes this. But always, good resarch Greg and thank you for this content.
@lqr824
@lqr824 Жыл бұрын
It's not a thing to feel bad about, Takuma-san. Previous generations of all our countries did things we will never do again. We are not them.
@volters9561
@volters9561 Жыл бұрын
@@lqr824 Not everywhere it's the case. Look at Russia today.
@lqr824
@lqr824 Жыл бұрын
@@volters9561 You're certainly correct there. Many (or most, or all?) nations were excessively cruel in the past in ways that were not acceptable--and strides have been taken to correct them. For example the US used to have slavery, used to relocate native Americans by force, locked up Japanese-American civilians in camps while doing nothing of the kind to German-Americans or Italian-Americans, and so on. But we've also taken great pains to correct these, even if not totally corrected yet. Germany too, obviously, has utterly left its genocidal ways behind. BUT YES AS YOU SAY: RUSSIA IS PROBABLY NEARLY AS BAD NOW AS ANY TIME IN ITS HISTORY. ZERO PROGRESS. JUST TAKING WHAT YOU WANT BY FORCE, RAPING, MURDERING CIVILIANS FOR SPORT. UTTERLY DISGUSTING.
@gregmuon
@gregmuon Жыл бұрын
​@@lqr824 Some Italian Americans were interned during the war, as were thousands of Italian nationals. There was a plan to intern all of them, like Japanese Americans, but it wasn't practical. Also, AP Giannini, founder of Bank of America, told FDR to screw himself. This was all covered up at the time.
@lqr824
@lqr824 Жыл бұрын
@@gregmuon Sure it was discussed briefly, but dropped. If it was taken up temporarily, it was only on the smallest of scales. One of the people involved in setting up the camps who was interviewed in the 1974 ITV series World at War was shown saying something to the effect of: "there were of course too many German and Italian Americans to lock up... and anyway they were GOOD Americans." I believe Joe DeMaggio is credited with explaining to America that Italian Americans' loyalty lay with America, which I guess was nice if you were Italian American, but Joe didn't speak up for Japanese-Americans and Japanese-Americans hadn't been around long enough to gain DeMaggio's hero tatus anyway. Besides, if you're going to lock up Americans of specific foreign ancestries, but only have enough budget to lock up say 10% of them, why use that budget to nearly exclusively to lock up people of ancestry A, but nearly none of it for ancestry B or C? Unless you were racist, why not just lock up 10% of all people of ancestries you were concerned about?
@pointblank722
@pointblank722 Жыл бұрын
Excellent channel with great narrative, understandable, very good English for non-native speakers! 👌👌👌
@GasPipeJimmy
@GasPipeJimmy Жыл бұрын
This seems like it would be an easy to build kit plane
@davidkleinthefamousp
@davidkleinthefamousp Жыл бұрын
Hi Greg. I’ve herd said, in fact I’ve said it myself- but it bears repeating; How much we readers of your column appreciate your sharing these synopses of your forays into historical research. God Bless, thank you, and Blessings on mrs. Greg and the entire household.
@dwesson9252
@dwesson9252 Жыл бұрын
The other issue on the possibility of the plane returning to belly land is the non-droppable and half-exposed bomb on the underside of the plane...
@sssxxxttt
@sssxxxttt Жыл бұрын
All this just to make the point "pilots are not expendable"? And the burn for Subaru :D I love listening to Your voice
@TWX1138
@TWX1138 Жыл бұрын
That they ever progressed to designing, building, and testing an aircraft that was specifically meant to kill its pilot shows that the inmates were running the asylum.
@TheJustinJ
@TheJustinJ Жыл бұрын
I highly recommend Dan Carlins Hardcore History: "Supernova in the East" 6-parts, 18 hours of WWII Pacific Theater history. Focuses a lot of Japanese culture at the time, last I checked those episodes are still available for free on his site.
@Imbeachedwhale
@Imbeachedwhale Жыл бұрын
Actually at this point kamikazes scored more hits per aircraft/pilot lost than conventional attacks. You were more likely to die without hitting your target in a torpedo bomber than a kamikaze, and the attrition rate for conventional attacks was so bad that even accounting for surviving aircraft making future attack runs, kamikazes were a better use of aircraft and pilots. It’s macabre and counterintuitive, but the US antiaircraft action summaries on NHHC state this explicitly with data from aircraft that arrived over the fleet to back it up.
@francesconicoletti2547
@francesconicoletti2547 Жыл бұрын
@@Imbeachedwhale yeh, I suspect thsts why the video included pilots lost in development, pilots lost in training and pilots lost on sorty without attacking. Not just pilots lost on the attack run. Aiding the other side in attrition does not seem to be a war winning strategy.
@lqr824
@lqr824 Жыл бұрын
I don't know about that, Lucas-fan. The US thought 7 in 10 would die on some beaches on D-Day, and awarded medals to infantry carrying out apparently kamikaze-type attacks, whether posthumously or in the freak occurence of their survival. Giving one's life for one's country is considered noble, not insanity. With the information the low-level recruits or even the top brass actually had, they didn't realize they were in a no-win situation, and could plausibly reckon that their sacrifice would save other's lives. Comparing how many died bombing Germany, it's plausible that had B-17s been set up to kamikaze, they'd be so much more accurate that far fewer American lives would have been lost to do equivalent damage, yet you would write that saving of lives off as crazy?
@TWX1138
@TWX1138 Жыл бұрын
@@lqr824 There's a difference between a suicide-attack performed basically spur-of-the-moment or an attack where recovering one's forces is incredibly unlikely compared to building out an entire class of aircraft without landing gear with the intent that the pilot knows from joining the unit that he is expected to kill himself. The British had a famous attack on a drydock as a commando raid that caused incredible losses among their personnel, but they at least made a token attempt to foster withdrawal after the objectives were satisfied. They knew that the Germans would be out for blood but they did not insist that their commandos specifically perform the ultmate sacrifice in making the attack. Their losses were due to enemy action, not their action.
@kyle857
@kyle857 Жыл бұрын
At first glance it looks like a sleek, powerful fighter; it's not." I'm dead, lol. Also, 211 mph at the end of the war? That blew my mind. Even for a desperation weapon.
@dannycalley7777
@dannycalley7777 Жыл бұрын
K........................more like the "eternal sitting duck " ............with a bomb in gizzard ???
@shannonkohl68
@shannonkohl68 Жыл бұрын
I know nothing about flying, but I presume that slower is better for ease-of-flying? Given the quality of pilots they had at that point, would a faster plane have potentially been a bigger problem. Greg calls it a deathtrap, but I wonder how much of that was due to the plane, and how much was due to the fact they were taking people with almost no training and telling them to fly that plane and then crash it into a ship.
@kyle857
@kyle857 Жыл бұрын
@@shannonkohl68 Slower isn't any easier really and it makes you a much much easier target for enemy fighters and AA.
@goingtoscotland
@goingtoscotland Жыл бұрын
The delivery of "it's not" was perfect. As always, love the content, Greg
@ZunaZurugi
@ZunaZurugi Жыл бұрын
I love how greg finaly makes videos on the japanese army planes :> That Subaru slander tho :D
@jimsmith7212
@jimsmith7212 Жыл бұрын
There's a KZbinr- Channel name Dynodon 64, who's building a scale WAR Corsair experimental airplane using a Subaru car engine....
@robertstorck3271
@robertstorck3271 Жыл бұрын
I believe the surviving Ki-115 is owned by the National Air and Space Museum, either on loan or de-accessioned to Pima County Air Museum. The best and most accurate information would be found in Curator Bob Mikesh's many writings, which often referenced this aircraft. He and two Japanese historians with whom he frequently collaborated, cleared up many errors and myths about Nippon's WWII aircraft and industry. I saw the aircraft in storage at Silver Hill, MD and it was the epitome of spartan design, simplicity, and pragmatism. Note in the one photo of the surviving aircraft that the engine has dropped down. According to NASM's original aviation curator Paul Garber, who rescued these aircraft from scrapping in the early 50s, it was dropped a few feet while unloading from a rail flat car. The engine mount was so lightly stressed, not intended to withstand landings or maneuvers', that it broke into that position. NASM's committees evaluated the history and significance of the Ki-115 and its condition, and did not consider it worthy of the expense of restoration nor the space for display. Note that the Japanese developed many types of dedicated human guided suicide vehicles, including glider, jet and rocket powered Yokosuka MXY-7 Ohkas, submarines, light attack boats and tracked and wheeled land vehicles. Civilians were encouraged to approach and hug invaders before detonating grenades or other explosives.
@lqr824
@lqr824 Жыл бұрын
2:40 Japan has a flower for every month. After cherry blossoms for March, wisteria comes in April. So, wisteria is a pretty obvious name for things. If in Tokyo in mid-April, Kameido Tenjin is the go-to place and you can also see turtles stacked 4-5 high on rocks in the pond. ("I know this from personal experience.") Confusingly, the wisteria is called the "fuji" in Japan but not the Mt. Fuji fuji (whose meaning is unclear). Even more confusingly there's a prefecture of Japan known as Fujiyama, "Wisteria Mountain," and many travel guides mistakenly have this term for the famous volcano Fuji-san. (San and yama are two readings of the same Chinese character; to understand this, imagine * is a symbol that English-speakers used to mean water, and it was pronounced "water" in some contexts but "hydro" or "aqua" in other contexts.) As Greg says: "anyway..."
@Quasarnova1
@Quasarnova1 Жыл бұрын
Yep, kanji is weird. In this case, wisteria flower is pronounced as Touka, instead of Fuji-hana. Same with their other suicide craft being pronounced Ohka instead of Sakura (cherry blossom).
@richarddouglas688
@richarddouglas688 Жыл бұрын
Isn't the Kanji for the fu in Fujii-San "fuku", as 富, meaning rich?
@lqr824
@lqr824 Жыл бұрын
@@richarddouglas688 Well, yes, it is WRITTEN with kanjis that typically mean "wealthy" or "productive" or "bountiful," plus one meaning Samurai. But "bountiful samurai" just doesn't make sense. (It's not "rich" in the sense of having money.) So back in the 600s, before they had any native script, sometimes*** they wrote their Japanese language by using Chinese characters just for their sounds, utterly disregarding the actual meaning. This was done in a poem compilation called the manyoshu, and from that is derived the term for writing an entire work thusly: manyogana. Doing it for just a word here or there instead is called ateji. Sometimes you can get a double-whammy by writing a word with one meaning, but writing it with kanji whose sounds spell that first word out when read aloud but otherwise have a second meaning of their own that also contributes a bit of spin. It's likely that Fuji-the-mountain was originally ateji, and that the fu and ji characters were picked of many possible characters to write it just because they have nice positive meanings themselves. To make things more difficult: we also don't even know what "Fuji" was supposed to mean, but it was thought to be a word play on "no two," meaning, "incomparable." There are historical documents mentioning this, and yet it's also not clear whether it is actual fact or was just a widely-held supposition at that time. *** In case you're wondering what they did other times, the other approach was either to simply write Chinese when they wanted to write at all, called kanbun, or, write Chinese but modified to fit Japanese word ordering. A lack of understanding of Chinese made the second of these kanbuns more common. Meanwhile, manyogana was simplified drastically and became the hiragana and katakana that augment Chinese characters today in Japanese writing. As Greg says, "Anyways,..."
@SnakebitSTI
@SnakebitSTI Жыл бұрын
In simple terms, nearly all kanji have multiple readings/pronunciations. To anyone literate in Japanese, 藤 being both "fuji" and "tou" is expected and normal.
@ukulelemikeleii
@ukulelemikeleii Жыл бұрын
A good book on the Kamikaze topic is "Memoirs of a Kamikaze" by Kazu Odachi. They don't recall if this plane was mentioned in his book, but he talked about the tough training and that there were two classes of kamikaze pilots; those who were regular well-trained pilots essentially forced to fly these missions, and those who received minimal training and we're not really pilots at all. I also found interesting in the book that Odachi and others flew CAP for the fledgling kamikaze pilots so they were with some protection when they went on their runs.
@a7721523
@a7721523 Жыл бұрын
The structure of Ki-115 was made by wood. This material may cause US Navy’s ammunition fuse can’t work properly. The last ship sunk by Kamikaze is USS Callaghan. A K5Y biplane made by wood and fabric survived the firepower of AA gun. Crashed into the engine room and led USS Callaghan sink. It’s quite hard to image that such kind of small plane could create serious damage to a destroyer.
@dennisford2000
@dennisford2000 Жыл бұрын
Wisteria is great for making a climbing tree from non climbing trees, and it would keep high wind from sweeping away a house, according to a song of my youth
@at1970
@at1970 Жыл бұрын
If a plane like this is your “plan” for victory, you’ve already lost.
@13aceofspades13
@13aceofspades13 Жыл бұрын
I remember reading about this airplane years ago and thinking to myself how much it would suck being a pilot in one of these. Good video!
@obsidianjane4413
@obsidianjane4413 Жыл бұрын
At least you get to fly a plane for your last few hours on Earth, as compared to explosive vest infantry guy...
@fafner1
@fafner1 Жыл бұрын
@@obsidianjane4413 Or one of the engine room crew as the the battleship Yamato made it's final suicide voyage.
@cyd9183
@cyd9183 Жыл бұрын
When you start taking a gamble, aiming for a big hole and hoping for an upset, you're done for!
@tomhutchins7495
@tomhutchins7495 Жыл бұрын
"...the Japanese finally learned the value of pilots". Now we wait for Ryanair to do the same.
@unclejessiesrodshop8432
@unclejessiesrodshop8432 Жыл бұрын
That last picture of Japanese pilots is incredible.
@Mike-eq4ky
@Mike-eq4ky Жыл бұрын
What a waste of talent and human life. There is... Some... Twisted logic to using Kamakazi... Suicide attacks... As an act of desperation in an effort to save your people but not even understanding the operational environment these poor Pilots were forced to execute their mission in makes it even more tragic, specifically examples like not having landing gear on the airplane when it could take five missions to actually find a target! The waste of human life is just insane...
@arthurfoyt6727
@arthurfoyt6727 Жыл бұрын
They were trash. They were trained to mercilessly kill and kill for sport. The best thing for Japan was to be blasted into oblivian. Sorry, but they were evil personified.
@Mike-eq4ky
@Mike-eq4ky Жыл бұрын
Sadly true. My only point being that if you had been a Japanese youth raised in that time period of the Japanese empire under the Bushido code and they're disdain for any non-japanese adventure to Guess that you would have turned out exactly the same. And by this point in the war they weren't even trained enough to land an aircraft safely once they got it into the air so they had no chance whatsoever, hence the comment about empathy
@fafner1
@fafner1 Жыл бұрын
If you get a chance, the Japanese movie "The Eternal Zero" is an entertaining flick which explores some of the issues around the use of kamakazi's.
@arthurfoyt6727
@arthurfoyt6727 Жыл бұрын
@@Mike-eq4ky Sympathy for the devil, eh? They were trained to treat all other people as animals and made the Germans look like boy scouts in comparison. No empathy for them conducting the genicide of millions of people nor the tools they used to do the genocide. We should not marvel at German gas chambers nor at the Japanese methods. Sorry, evil is evil.
@zanenobbs352
@zanenobbs352 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting! Nakajima was resilient and innovative. Nakajima made Japan's first jet aircraft, the Nakajima (J9N1) Kikka 橘花 (Orange Blossom) for the navy, with the Nakajima Ki-201 Karyu 火龍 (Fire Dragon) for the army under construction at war's end. Post-war Nakajima returned as Fuji Heavy Industries, creating Japan's first post-war jet, the Fuji T1F1 Hatsutaka 初鷹 (Young Falcon).
@elgato9445
@elgato9445 Жыл бұрын
I believe the word Subaru means unite. Love when you dip into these topics, Greg. I would think that this stage even when using the cheapest materials possible..it was still a waste of time and resources not to mention fuel. The story about the pilot who came back and was shot.. Did they warn him? " You come back one more time and you will be shot.". Pilot: ' Ah ..they must be kidding.". Oh..and I have a Subaru..and I love the ugly, little dependable beast.
@rayschoch5882
@rayschoch5882 Жыл бұрын
VERY interesting, Greg, and a great photo at about 0:40 - it's one I've not seen before, and I've seen a LOT of photos of kamikaze aircraft and attacks, including the one that hit the Lexington on 5 November, 1944, off the Philippines, when VF-19 (my Dad's squadron) was nearing the end of its combat tour. The Ki-115 must mark a milestone for Japan in WW 2, as there are few instances (per "Captain_Dorja" below) during the war when their Army Air Force and Navy agreed about anything, much less a combat aircraft. I'm a little puzzled by the "sheet steel" skin for the fuselage - doped (painted) fabric (as was done for ailerons and rudder) would have served the same purpose, using even less strategic materials. I laughed out loud at your Nakajima/Subaru appearance notation.
@michaelh5564
@michaelh5564 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if the decision not to use fabric for the fuselage was because fabrics may have been just as scarce. You cant exact make clothes for soldiers out of metal.
@kylebrady969
@kylebrady969 Жыл бұрын
I think the image might be USS St. Lo in the aftermath of the Battle off Samar. Pretty sure I've seen that image associated with that ship. Context, she was part of TF77.3 and had just escaped being steamrolled by the Center Force when the first ever kamikaze strike was launched against them. St. Lo was hit and sank, becoming the first ship to be destroyed in this manner. That was late October of '44
@francisbusa1074
@francisbusa1074 Жыл бұрын
My uncle, Gene Rocchi, was the officer in charge of the two quad 40mm mounts immediately aft of the island. I have an official Navy photo of him standing at attention on the Lexington's flight deck during burial at sea services the following day. His khakis are still filthy from the fire. I still remember my uncle taking me with him to San Francisco (or maybe NAS Alameda?) about 1960 to visit the Lex. I was probably a freshman in H.S. then.
@rayschoch5882
@rayschoch5882 Жыл бұрын
@@francisbusa1074 I have a couple photos of that ceremony, too. Lots of history books show the attacks, few show the casualties.
@francisbusa1074
@francisbusa1074 Жыл бұрын
@@rayschoch5882 Yes, I've seen where so many men were burned alive in the 20 mm gun gallery at the outboard side of the island.
@ThorneyedWT
@ThorneyedWT Жыл бұрын
7:48 Oooof! That burn!
@henrycross2368
@henrycross2368 11 күн бұрын
Good Narrator This man has a very enjoyable, easy going voice, comfortable in his subject. Reminiscent of Mike Rowe.
@soonerlon
@soonerlon Жыл бұрын
One of the pictures in your video clearly shows surface corrosion on the fuselage skin. At least that one aircraft had (cheap) steel for its skin. But, as you alluded in your video they could have been made from whatever was available at the time of construction. Very interesting video!
@Digiidude
@Digiidude Жыл бұрын
Very informative content Greg
@Mongo63a
@Mongo63a Жыл бұрын
With only 100+ built its amazing one still exist today. Looks like the canopy area was from the Baka bomb.
@brianjarvis313
@brianjarvis313 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. As a student of WW2, I love every new piece of information I can get on experimental weapons, particularly aircraft. Much appreciated!
@WayneMoyer
@WayneMoyer Жыл бұрын
I was just at Pima last Monday and got to see it in person. It is in sad shape but that is to be expected from an expendable aircraft. Now I have to go look at my pictures of it to go with what you were talking about.
@The7humpwump
@The7humpwump Жыл бұрын
Greg coming at Subaru from the top rope…
@kenbakker3241
@kenbakker3241 Жыл бұрын
6:56 Judging by what appears to be surface rust in this illustration, the tail is covered in fabric, the entire fuselage is covered in sheet steel, and the engine cowl is aluminum.
@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles
@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles Жыл бұрын
I think you're right.
@raymondwinn6479
@raymondwinn6479 Жыл бұрын
GREG - thank you for this informative presentation - on a subject that I was unaware of.
@williamschneider1953
@williamschneider1953 Жыл бұрын
You should totally do a video on the La-5!! I’d love to learn more about the aircrafts design but can’t find much in depth info! I feel like your channel would do that perfectly!
@edwardquin4464
@edwardquin4464 11 ай бұрын
So fascinating - always the best! Thank you!
@aasphaltmueller5178
@aasphaltmueller5178 Жыл бұрын
The Styling of Subaru till at least the 90s was not bad at all in my judgement. I had a early 80s "1600" Station Wagon, liked it very much and it had some interesting design/functional elements
@tjh44961
@tjh44961 Жыл бұрын
As to the material used in construction of the fuselage, the aircraft pictured at 6:56 definitely looks like the skin of the fuselage is has surface rust, all the way from the tail to the cowling. The cowling itself has no discoloration. I suppose it could be primer showing through the silver, but why would they bother with primer?
@IvorMektin1701
@IvorMektin1701 Жыл бұрын
A B-17 was just destroyed in a midair at DFW*. Should have said Texas Executive
@lambastepirate
@lambastepirate Жыл бұрын
The other is supposedly a P-63 So sad R.I.P.
@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles
@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles Жыл бұрын
Oh no! I hadn't heard.
@IvorMektin1701
@IvorMektin1701 Жыл бұрын
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles Texas Raiders
@IvorMektin1701
@IvorMektin1701 Жыл бұрын
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles And I got the wrong airfield, Texas Executive
@Vito_Tuxedo
@Vito_Tuxedo Жыл бұрын
7:48 "Nakajima, of course, became Subaru-a fact which surprises me because most Nakajima aircraft look great." OK...that one got a guffaw outa me...and then, "Jeez...where's my sweater. That was *_cold,_* Greg!:" Too funny. So...er, I take it that, from your perspective, Subaru can look forward to a great deal of growth in the area of producing great looking vehicles. (heh) Anyhow, great video, as always. Love your channel, man. Truly among the very best content on KZbin! 😎
@andre5007yt
@andre5007yt Жыл бұрын
"...guffaw..." me too:) - although I liked my 2002 WRX.
@ray.shoesmith
@ray.shoesmith Жыл бұрын
What did the kamikaze flight instructor say to his students? I'm only gonna show you this once
@n1k1george
@n1k1george Жыл бұрын
Due to a severe shortage of aviation fuel, Kamikaze missions were launched with just enough fuel to reach Okinawa. After all they were meant to be one way missions. Pilots who did not find targets would have chosen to crash into sea anyway as they would not have dared brought shame to their families by trying to return - which they could not have done anyway.
@Lou-f
@Lou-f Жыл бұрын
That photo at the end is literally looking at ghosts
@paulsmith5752
@paulsmith5752 Жыл бұрын
From Wikipedia: "Tsurugi (Sword - what the Japanese Army called it) had very poor take-off and landing performance" - I don't think poor landing performance would have been expected to be a factor...
@carltodd1486
@carltodd1486 Жыл бұрын
My Uncle UW was on a troop ship - not sure what type- in Leyte Gulf on December 10th, 1944. His ship was hit by a kamikaze that day which marked the first organized, purposeful kamikaze attack of the war to that time. Uncle UW (his name was U W - not an abbreviation- was burned horribly. He lived 3 days. Likely they had him really drugged up cause the pain would have been hideous. He was buried at sea on December 13th 1944. His Mom, my Grand mother on my Dad’s side had a severe breakdown when she got the telegram and never recovered. I remember her. She was a sweet woman but clearly part of her sanity was lost on the day she got the telegram. Incidentally, Uncle UW won a bronze star - most likely while fighting in new guinea in 43. Carlisle Barracks verified his award of the medal but his records burned in the big fire circa 1973.
@shakeydavesr
@shakeydavesr Жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear of all the misery your family suffered. Thank you for sharing this story.
@coreyandnathanielchartier3749
@coreyandnathanielchartier3749 Жыл бұрын
My uncle Joe was on a minesweeper off Okinawa, probably a picket boat mission, and they were hit multiple times by suicide flyers. Lost half their crew.
@carltodd1486
@carltodd1486 Жыл бұрын
It seems surreal that his death was 78 years ago. It isn’t impossible that I could be alive 22 years from now which would make it 100 years since my Uncle was killed/died of wounds. The past isn’t as distant as it seems sometimes. We , most all of us, have connections that go that far back. I have known men who’s brothers rode with Forrest in the great war of northern aggression (southern sympathy showing). My wife’s great x 2 or 3 grandfather was a private in company C of the 19th Alabama volunteers. Known as the Jefferson Warriors (Jefferson County was where he lived), he joined at 15 in 1862. He was wounded at the battle of Atlanta and at Franklin, TN. He was captured in Dec of 44 on the Hillsborough Pike south of Nashville in 1864 terms. In Nashville today.
@shakeydavesr
@shakeydavesr Жыл бұрын
@@carltodd1486 That is cool that you’ve been able to find out so much of your family history. My grandfather (mothers father) had passed in the early nineties a number of years after he had a debilitating stroke the partially paralyzed on his right side. He regained mobility for the most part, but his speech was muffled, like how someone talks when they have a sore throat. But I was in grade school at the time of his stroke and only remember very little of what he’d told me about what he’d told me about his time in the military. He was an orphan in era leading up to the Great Depression in the Chicago area and ran away and joined the army with forged papers because he was too young. I had stumbled across a website that had military registrations of some sort and found a list where had signed up at a place in Illinois and went to basic in Pearl Harbor, or went to Basic training, then was sent to Pearl Harbor. Can’t remember, and cannot for the life of me remember the website I found the info on,,, arrrrgh,,, it was just a couple years ago, but I had saved a screenshot of it and lost it when phoned froze and crashed. Serious heartbreak there,,, All I really remember was that he was in the Corp of Engineers, (retired I believe in the seventies from Ft Belvoir in VA, 5 miles from where I grew up) But really the only thing that stands out in my mind was that I Romberg he said he put down metal decking for airstrips, I think my grandmother said it was in Europe. He also was in Korea. I remember as a small child going with my Grandmother to pick him up from work on base and I just wanted to climb on the dozer,,, lol. But he went to work as a civilian still running equipment and another thing I recall was that he said he would go fill in holes after missle testing. He even brought home a couple of small parachutes from whatever they were launching. THOSE, I remember vividly because I damn near broke both my legs jumping out of trees thinking the parachutes would slow me down,,,,nope,,,LOL. But, I really wish I knew more about his military history. I still kick myself for not locating the website I mentioned before.
@carltodd1486
@carltodd1486 Жыл бұрын
@@shakeydavesr Sounds like your man was what the Navy would have called a SeaBee. Construction battalions were essential . Without them there would be no airstrips, no docking facilities for ships to unload, no facilities for troops to occupy (as opposed to flopping in the jungle - not gonna be combat effective for long if you sleep in mud in the rain while being shot at, shelled, infiltrated etc. As for airfields, they used a product called pierced steel planking. It worked wonders. It was quick to install and made airstrips usable very quickly. And these strips we reasonably easy to repair as opposed to tar MacAdam (tarmac).
@Warmaker01
@Warmaker01 Жыл бұрын
The Japanese military treated those kamikaze pilots terribly, too. Not all were volunteers, a number were forced into it. Their treatment during training was awful, one surviving kamikaze pilot said that it was so bad that any showing up for training with patriotism, he quickly lost it because was quickly beaten out of them.
@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles
@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles Жыл бұрын
That wasn't at all unique to the Kamikazes. That was pretty standard in the Japanese military, especially the Army.
@21goikenban17
@21goikenban17 Жыл бұрын
I don't see a single person in Japan who has sued their country for forcing them to become a member of a kamikaze unit.
@raucousindignation5811
@raucousindignation5811 Жыл бұрын
The problem facing the Japanese air arms when attacking Allied shipping was insurmountable. Highly skilled and trained torpedo and dive bomber squadrons by 1943 were getting decimated by anti-aircraft fire on every attack. Even if they they performed well and scored multiple hits, most of the planes were shot down and didn't return to base. In essence, any attack on American shipping regardless of plane type and number and pilot skill had become a kamikaze attack.
@kevindolin4315
@kevindolin4315 Жыл бұрын
Nakajima originally changed its name to Fuji Heavy Industries, but in April 2017 changed it again to the current Subaru Corporation.
@theonemacduff
@theonemacduff Жыл бұрын
Marvellous footnote to the Pacific War. I've never seen the cost effectiveness of kamikaze so clearly explained, and you bring out a lot of points which are only obvious when someone has shown them to you, i.e., they are kind of non-obvious points, meaning the Japanese High Command was not really thinking things through.. Thank you Greg.
@MrAstrojensen
@MrAstrojensen Жыл бұрын
The Japanese High Command had a really old-fashioned view of war, in many respects, which really came back to bite them in their behinds later.
@fafner1
@fafner1 Жыл бұрын
​@@MrAstrojensen Many Japanese officers realized they were in trouble when their bansia charges against the Marines on Guadalcanal failed. They learned what the French, British, Germans, and Americans learned in WWI, human flesh is no match for automatic weapons.
@21goikenban17
@21goikenban17 Жыл бұрын
@@MrAstrojensen Yes, the Allies stunned the world by declaring right from the start of the war that they would continue the war of aggression until the other side did everything they asked unconditionally! This was a surprise to the world, because no country in history has ever started a war with such a declaration. In the US, there was no speech of explanation to the public, but in the UK, there was a speech to the public urging them not to take this as a barbaric declaration. Japanese officers thought that Americans had learned in WW1 that there was no point in sending their children to foreign theaters of war where it would be useless to the masses, but it took until the Vietnam War for them to learn. Also, only the British and the US used very advanced warfare methods such as bombing cities for mass civilian casualties, which was not explicitly stated in international law because no one thought they would ever do it.
@erniedesantis597
@erniedesantis597 Жыл бұрын
I was at the Pima Air and Space Museum today. Looks like the fuselage and wing tips are sheet metal (iron/steel) they are rusted brown and pitted. The wings are covered in aluminum (bare) and are still silver in color. I have some pictures of it.
@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles
@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles Жыл бұрын
Thanks Ernie!
@Leon_der_Luftige
@Leon_der_Luftige Жыл бұрын
Subarus look the way they do because Subaru seriously puts style at the very bottom of their priorities. They didn't even have a department for design up until the 90s or so. Subarus are cars where the customers desire in functionality and the engineers opinions matter. Not much else. I respect that. Look up the video on Subaru's history by Hagerty. They have the single best car-related channel on KZbin.
@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles
@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles Жыл бұрын
No, there are 9 year olds that draw better looking cars.
@Leon_der_Luftige
@Leon_der_Luftige Жыл бұрын
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles Well that's the point. Subaru literally does not care to keep costs down for the customers.
@chrislong3938
@chrislong3938 Жыл бұрын
That color photo seems to me, to confirm the aluminum cowling theory...
@alfredmasullo
@alfredmasullo Жыл бұрын
I've never heard of this aircraft. Very interesting.
@comacollosasa6282
@comacollosasa6282 Жыл бұрын
Damn I was at Pima air and space and missed this. There’s just so much to see there
@leecrt967
@leecrt967 Жыл бұрын
10:26 Notice the different level of sheen on the engine cowling on this unpainted example. I recall one source stating the cowling was made of tin.
@KrautGoesWild
@KrautGoesWild Жыл бұрын
On the runway: Japanese Soldier: "I got a letter from your parents." 🧾😮 Kamikaze Pilot: "Put it on my bunk. I'll read it later." 😊 Japanese Soldier: 🤨
@stephengloor8451
@stephengloor8451 Жыл бұрын
Going to the Pima museum today - will have a look
@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles
@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles Жыл бұрын
Please let us know, and start a new comment with the info as this one will be buried by then.
@Thermopylae1159
@Thermopylae1159 Жыл бұрын
It's ironic that at the same time the Japanese were resorting to this they had prioritized installing water-methanol boost in the Ki-100 and a two stage three speed supercharger in the Ki-84. The phrase "driven by desperation" comes to mind!
@scottdunn2178
@scottdunn2178 Жыл бұрын
My dad was on the battleship USS North Carolina in WWll 🇺🇸⚓
@kilianortmann9979
@kilianortmann9979 Жыл бұрын
I actually never heard of this one, I guess there is no need to make the gear retractable, if you can make it detachable instead.
@kevintucker3354
@kevintucker3354 Жыл бұрын
Ah!! That’s how they reuse the gears! Thanks
@jiyushugi1085
@jiyushugi1085 Жыл бұрын
NHK, Japan''s national broadcasting company, produced a TV documentary on the Kamikaze which asked the question: "Why was the kamikaze program continued and expanded in spite of the fact that it wasn't achieving the stated aim of protecting Japan? The producers had access to recordings of general staff meetings, notes taken of those meetings, and the diaries and writings of members of the general staff. The conclusion they came to was that during the final months of the war the kamikaze program was expanded not in an effort to 'protect Japan' but to convince the allies to agree to a negotiated peace settlement - a settlement which would've allowed Japan's military rulers to stay in power.
@acme_tnt8741
@acme_tnt8741 Жыл бұрын
My friends back yard and house was completely engulfed in Wysteria. It's the most destructive plant I've ever seen.
@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles
@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles Жыл бұрын
Yes, it looks great, but it's a true force of nature.
@acme_tnt8741
@acme_tnt8741 Жыл бұрын
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles I just helped him last weekend and that is the first time I've ever seen it like that. Crazy seeing a fresh video about it. I'm sure though the Wisteria the Japanese used was Japanese Wisertia. My friend is plagued with Chinese Wisteria. The difference being one vine twist clockwise and the other counter clockwise. By the way man you have an awesome channel. It's new info to me on WW2 stuff narrated by an Amercan English speaker. It's not too often I learn new stuff on WW2. If I haven't subscribed already I am as soon as I post this reply.. Excellent job sir.
@nigellawson8610
@nigellawson8610 Жыл бұрын
Can you imagine if your late model Subaru was built using the same design philosopy of Nakajima Ki-115? It would make for an interesting commute!
@Eth3realwarrior
@Eth3realwarrior Жыл бұрын
It would be your last day going to work, that's a plus right?
@nigellawson8610
@nigellawson8610 Жыл бұрын
@@Eth3realwarrior Being dead would suck!
@fafner1
@fafner1 Жыл бұрын
You mean it would be like driving a Ford Pinto?
@nigellawson8610
@nigellawson8610 Жыл бұрын
@@fafner1 Yeah' the good old Ford family roaster.
@demetridar506
@demetridar506 Жыл бұрын
Interesting video. Thanks again for covering Japan. A few comments. The top level speed of this plane according to my sources (some directly from Japan) is on the order of 300+ mph at low level. I think around 340 mph. I can look up the exact number. Not surprising, having 1100 hp and wing area substantially less than a Ki-43. There was a surplus of these obsolete engines, and that is why they used them. At the time of the program was started, not all the details of the typical Kamikaze mission were known, so the obvious problems of not finding targets easily was not well understood. I think the wing loading of the plane was extremely high for novice pilots, and a huge gap from the training planes they transitioned from. The kamikaze program itself was extremely successful, and the huge psychological effect it had on US sailors and troops helped pave the way for the very good terms Japan got at the end of the war (US propaganda calls it unconditional surrender, but then again, the US propaganda also says that the Russians destroyed the north sea natural gas pipe lines, even though the Russians built them!). It is not true that Japan did not value their pilots. The Kamikazes were trying to save huge numbers of troops and sailors trapped in islands, who would perish with certainty if the battles were lost. However there is no doubt that at the early stages of the war, the Japanese Navy brass over protected their surface capital ships (Hotel Yamato) and considered their pilots and destroyers more expendable. Had they risked more of their capital ships in the Guadalcanal campaign, they may have stopped the US advance in its tracks and got even better peace terms. But that is another story. If you notice, all Nakajima fighters had a straight leading edge. Straight I mean that the two wing leading edges were collinear, and the main wing spars were tilted forward. Ki-27, 43, 44, 84, and 115 share this characteristic. The wing is built in one piece, no connection between the left and right wing. This saves weight at a given strength. In order to get the airframe to fit through workshop doors, the fuselage comes apart behind the cockpit (perhaps not on the Ki-115 since it has such a tiny wing span). Many other Japanese planes share this (the no spar central connection, not the wing shape), i.e. A6M, and Ki-61, which you covered recently. (Another interesting characteristic of the Ki-61 which I forgot to comment was that it has no firewall, the engine support is extension of the monocot fuselage). It looks like you don't like Subaru cars too much. Perhaps we agree on that!
@lqr824
@lqr824 Жыл бұрын
You seem to know a huge amount about aircraft but I am stunned to see that you think unconditional surrender is only a surmise that we have to rely on American pronouncements to be sure of. The history of events is available literally day to day. On what subject did the US and Japan disagree on and Japan nonetheless got their way? As for Nordstream, what is your counter to the arguments put forth by this European? kzbin.info/www/bejne/npyQYaSAjd6cmtE
@demetridar506
@demetridar506 Жыл бұрын
@@lqr824 Thankyou for your note. Most people do not know that before US troops started flying into Japan (what I call an unpleasant invitation) there was a conference in the Philippines between Japanese and American officials that determined the direction of the "occupation". In that conference, it was decided that the occupation will see no resistance, so it will be super tiny in numbers, in return for the Japanese government to survive more or less intact, which is what happened. In addition to the main government structure remaining unchanged, the people that were running Japan in about 1950 and later were essentially the same as in the ones running Japan in the 30's and early 40's. Only the super high profile "war criminals" were sacrificed in order to satisfy the revenge of the victors. A lot has been written about the reforms that the "occupation" did, but what is not mentioned is that the Japanese would have made these reforms by themselves regardless (in areas where the reforms went too far, the Japanese government rolled them back in 1952). The Japanese have shown many times in their history of being capable of making large reforms, and after an unsuccessful campaign, of course they would do large reforms. McArthur was seen as another temporary Shogun, and as most Shoguns, his authority was mostly symbolic. Of course, McArthur himself perhaps did not realize that. The Japanese government (and especially Hirohito) knew how to handle and manipulate and exploit McArthur's arrogance to their advantage. Most of the so called "war criminals" were set free in 1952 with pensions in return for serving their country in prison and absorbing the anger of the victors in order to allow the rest of the country to rebuild. As a proof that McArthur had very limited authority, Mac could not force Japan to send troops to Korea, even though they absolutely needed well determined troops. In contrast, for example, the US was able to force Greece to send troops to Korea, even though Greece was an "independent" country (the word independent is in quotes, because the independence was according to US propaganda, in reality the Greek government was a poppet regime of Washington, so the USA had a lot more control over the independent Greece than the "occupied" Japan). I hope the above will make you rethink the unconditional surrender. The incredible resistance that the Kamikazes and the other never surrendering troops was not in vain, as our propaganda wants you to believe. Even though the Kamikaze has created the largest losses of the US Navy in history, Greg is correct that the Kamikaze's damage to the US war machine as seen objectively was too small to really slow it down or stop it. But in 1945, as the Pearl Harbor propaganda effects plus the racial hatred effects were winding down, the psychological effect of the Kamikaze had a huge impact in the motivation of people to fight, and the support of the war by the US public. This is exactly why the top brass of Japan was insisting on the continuation of the Kamikaze program, even though it was obvious even to them that the objective results were limited. The resistance to an ever expanding and super aggressive superpower empire should be an inspiration to what human spirit can do. Japan was able to save its civilization, and pave the way to its future prosperity. Something that, India, or China, 100 years ago could not do against the British empire (the main result of WW2 was the replacement of the British Empire by the US empire, it is funny how the British think they were among the winners of WW2!). As for the pipeline, your video is typical of refined propaganda. They emphasize certain points and suppress others. As you noticed, this video is one month old. Sweden has a lot of information of the investigation recently, but they are not releasing it due to so called national interest (it is funny that we call ourselves democracies, but we keep all these secrets from the voters). The so called benefit to Russia by dividing the west is absurd. The best way to divide the west for Russia is the possibility of turning on the valves and let the gas flow to Germany as a reward for stopping the arming of the poppet regime of Zelensky. And in fact, at the time the bombs went off rupturing the pipeline, there were talks between Germany and Russia about the possibility of turning on the valves again. The USA had been demanding that Germany stopped acquiring Russian gas, long before the Ukraine war. But of course, it is all Putin's fault. In this war as in all wars, all sides apply propaganda. But the West (USA, and Great Britain) are the most skillful, been able to turn night into day. In fact, in regimes where the citizens vote, it is far more critical for the citizens to be confused than in regimes that the citizens do not really vote. In other words, there is no question that Putin is a dictator. But people actually think that the western regimes are actually democracies, and it is important for them to continue believing that, and supporting crazy wars with potential auto destruction, in order to maximize profits for the few (in this case, the US military industrial complex and US oil companies). The politics of war are the same as back in WW2. Back then Japan was bad, now Putin and China are bad. History repeats itself because human nature has not changed.
@lqr824
@lqr824 Жыл бұрын
Your argument about JP is based on a large assumption that any aspects of continuity must undoubtedly have been achieved over US wishes and objections, and the US was powerless to force JP to do otherwise. Yet unconditional surrender is hardly a statement of an intent to change everything, or even anything in particular. Take your example of war prisoners being pensioned. The US simply could have killed them, or taken them to the US, had they not wished them to be set free. It's more likely that within a year or two, the US's attention had moved on from Japan to other challenges and no longer really was concerned about the things you mention. You also overlook that before the surrender, the entire country was absolutely on a war footing with the military literally in charge of govt. You cannot claim post-war govt or economy was a continuation of that without appearing to insult your audience. As for the pipeline, I don't buy your stories about what Sweden's govt knows and isn't releasing, unless you're literally in the Swedish govt and leaking internal data here and now. I don't say this specifically because of Russia, or you personally (or for that matter Sweden). But anyone claiming to have information of widespread interest that inexplicably isn't available to the general public, and further this information is reliable, is deceiving themselves. I can't respond further to either line of argument.
@demetridar506
@demetridar506 Жыл бұрын
@@lqr824 "Your argument about JP is based on a large assumption that any aspects of continuity must undoubtedly have been achieved over US wishes and objections, and the US was powerless to force JP to do otherwise." No, this is why it was conditional. The USA gave up its rights in return for an uneventful occupation. The US could not have simply killed them, because it would ruin the image that the US was trying to create for itself. And Japan knew it. The unconditional control of Japan had little value to the USA because Japan did not have oil or other resources. It was to the US interests as well as Japanese interests to set things up the way they were set up. " You also overlook that before the surrender, the entire country was absolutely on a war footing with the military literally in charge of govt." No different from the USA or Great Britain. It is typical, even in western "democracies" to give up citizen's rights during war time. The Swedish govt announced that it is not releasing the results of their investigation. It was not my announcement.
@fafner1
@fafner1 Жыл бұрын
@@lqr824 Interesting comment. The Soviet Union kept German POW's for slave labour for 10 years after the war, during which a third of them died.
@lqr824
@lqr824 Жыл бұрын
Given the low speed requirement, maybe fixed landing gear might have been the answer.
@martijn9568
@martijn9568 Жыл бұрын
I suppose that rubber would have also been a strategic material, but even two skids would help
@lqr824
@lqr824 Жыл бұрын
@@martijn9568 not mentioned by Greg, but while we always think of the Battle of Britain aircraft taking off from literal fields, I think the Japanese actually used purpose-built runways. Ground flat enough to grow food on was always in extremely tight supply, so much so that the land was mostly vegetarian from 900 to 1900, with very few herds in meadows, so you wouldn't have just a random meadow of grass that planes could use. The Germans seemed to have enough flat land for planes to land on too, so some designs had skids (Ar-234, He-163).
@k9killer221
@k9killer221 Жыл бұрын
Apart from the obvious abhorrence of the whole Kamakaze concept, some pilots would have been truly naturally gifted, and who could tell what they could achieve if given a decent convetional plane.
@baryonyx9241
@baryonyx9241 Жыл бұрын
From sheer looks it kinda just reminds me of the IAR 80/81
@teodor9975
@teodor9975 Жыл бұрын
for some reason when i see the Ki-115 i dont see a kamikaze plane. i see an early war fighter design
@jakubl8271
@jakubl8271 Жыл бұрын
Plane with so poor performance against US Navy with radars and proximity fuses (ok, Japanese didn't know about them)? It would be a kind of miracle, if any plane would go through, especially towards a carrier, through its fighter group.
@moistmike4150
@moistmike4150 Жыл бұрын
"By the end of 1945, the Japanese High Command realized that pilots were not expendable." Me: Uh....
@RV4aviator
@RV4aviator Жыл бұрын
Great research and content again. And I thought I was well " up to speed " on all things WW11 aviation . Gregs post on the Ki-115 is a first for me... Well done again mate...! Thankyou
@636theofthebeast8
@636theofthebeast8 Жыл бұрын
7:52 I burst out laughing, wasn't expecting this at all hahahah. Thanks Greg!
@arthurbachmann3117
@arthurbachmann3117 Жыл бұрын
PCAASM has Ki-115. Asked of thin steel aft fuselage monocoque.
@jamescaan870
@jamescaan870 Жыл бұрын
Regarding kamikaze effectiveness parshall pointed out that on tactical and operation level they were fairly effective and were rational response to overwhelming American cap and anti air. Strategically zero sense but on lower levels probably the best the Japanese could have hoped for
@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles
@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles Жыл бұрын
Yes, but that's because of the situation the Japanese put themselves in by not valuing pilots in the first place.
@msgfrmdaactionman3000
@msgfrmdaactionman3000 Жыл бұрын
Great video as always thanks! I didn't know that this plane existed. I'm always entertained by post war Kamikaze pilot interviews.
@kalui96
@kalui96 Жыл бұрын
The pronunciations are pretty good. Great video!!!
@coreyandnathanielchartier3749
@coreyandnathanielchartier3749 Жыл бұрын
One more thing. Late in the war, other Axis forces sent neophyte pilots, with appallingly little-to-no training, into combat against crack Allied flyers in even better aircraft, and in grossly greater number. These Axis pilots, even in the latest, best aircraft they had, were really flying no less of suicide missions than were the Kamikazes.
@jamesbaker7112
@jamesbaker7112 Жыл бұрын
Here in Texas, a wysteria bush means that there was once a homestead there. It's a good indication for metal detectorists.
@sadwingsraging3044
@sadwingsraging3044 Жыл бұрын
There was a term the Japanese used meaning _Crushed jewels_ taken from an old tradition of the last family member alive in a raid was to hammer any jewels into dust rather than let the enemy have them. Pretty based as far as I am concerned. That term was used in the original program that became the Kamikaze.
@feathermerchant
@feathermerchant Жыл бұрын
Any pilot who rams his aircraft into a ship will definitely crush his jewels!
@itowmyhome797
@itowmyhome797 Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@kenjackson5685
@kenjackson5685 Жыл бұрын
1st class. ..thanks for sharing
@7thsealord888
@7thsealord888 Жыл бұрын
A very interesting treatment of an obscure aircraft.
@808bigisland
@808bigisland Жыл бұрын
Aloha and happy V-Day and enduring peace!
@gordoh7634
@gordoh7634 Жыл бұрын
Gee! Makes you wonder if Delta has finally realized this? The value of pilots and that they are not expendable. See Karlene Pettit.
@RemusKingOfRome
@RemusKingOfRome Жыл бұрын
LOL .. My first car was a Subaru AWD wagon, it's UGLINESS was it's beauty ! :D
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