Jared Diamond - What Are Persons?

[@georgechanturidze1409]

Had the privilege of having Jared Diamond as a professor in a small class setting. Amazing man all around.

[@stoneagedjp]

In my experience of living in another culture, whenever I thought that people were all the same, I would realize they weren't. And whenever I thought we weren't the same, I would realize we were. Never have figured it out.

[@benjamindover5676]

One big way we are different is that primitive peoples are very superstitious. Spirits are in everything. On a trip to the HighLands of New Guinea were told if some unusual bad thing happened we would need to quickly leave as we would be thought to be the cause.

[@benjamindover5676]

@@gvanderleun Agreed, but not to the extent as these people. One village thought that when a child was killed by a crocodile, it was because the village downriver cast an evil spell against them. But I picked up some really cool primitive art.

[@heavymeddle28]

Yea I'm Swedish but live on a small island in Thailand with 80% muslims and I agree with you. Hell... Can't even figure myself out 😊

[@leonoradompor8706]

Rest in peace mom, you live in my heart***

[@MrSanford65]

I think there’s a difference between the social person and the existential person. The social person is only defined by how you relate to others ; where by social adaptations or interpretations by neuroscientists. The existential person Will always be unknowable to us just as much as when a person is sleeping we can never know what he’s dreaming. But socially, everybody are just bits of information processed among each other. Perhaps the information was all in our heads in the first place

[@ronhudson3730]

Primitive seems a rather harsh way to describe societies different from ours. Hunter-gatherer, nomadic herding etc. adequately describe a difference without implying inferiority.

[@Dion_Mustard]

People are not their physical bodies, they are consciousness. When people describe having an out of body or near death experience this is very much verified, the fact that our bodies are irrelevant, and that we each share a universal fundamental consciousness which is non-local.

[@robsmith1a]

In my lifetime the amount of autonomy given to children has changed a lot in the UK where I live. As far as I can remember from the age of eight or nine I would go out with friends, do whatever we wanted and all would be ok as long as we were back in time for tea and didn't cause any trouble. Looking back we did lots of things where we could get hurt but also we learned a lot about doing activities without someone else having to organise them for us. I think it a shame that youngsters don't have that freedom anymore.

[@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings]

To get closer to truth.. Invite/Interview - Nassim Haramain

[@hammyhamsters9210]

Jared didn’t say anything about the topic: what are persons? What are universal in all people and culture?

[@TheTroofSayer]

If we think that raising a child in hunter-gatherer cultures is wild, what about children raised by animals? The topic of feral children relates. For obvious reasons, this is a topic that cannot be formally studied (keeping children in isolation, or having animals raise them, for the purpose of conducting experiments, is not a humane thing to do). Nonetheless, several examples have been discovered and studied. Jean Marc Gaspard Itard got the ball rolling with his study of Victor of Aveyron (raised by wolves).

[@experiencemystique4982]

1:42of the video and here I'm asking...he traveled to Peru and New Guinea to try to understand what's a traditional family concern means? And in my head...why? What happened to yours?

[@bluelotus542]

It may well be that in those places where the struggle for survival is harder, children need to learn to survive through harder lessons, but the principles of struggling and learning are ultimately the same.

[@albertjackson9236]

Person are chemistry in action.

[@heavymeddle28]

Then I can finally call myself an action star 🌟😊

[@DIDUKNOW7777]

If one can think and has a perspective than one is a person irrespective of disability or physical limitations. That's just common sense.

[@francesco5581]

Compared to the different moral choices that some people do in our modern civilization (they steal, they kill, they rape...) i find those cultural differences quite irrelevant.

[@mbiriviri]

Really you think that the only people who make poor moral choices are “in our cities”? Besides being a not very subtle slur it has nothing to do with this conversation-Just somebody taking any opportunity they can to make a poor “moral choice”

[@francesco5581]

@@mbiriviri i understand that it could be misunderstood (changed), but the second part was clear about "cultural differences" to be irrelevant compared to moral choices.

[@ejllamobeolan5025]

A person isn't just human!

[@nsc2443]

All about survival in each one's environment

[@kallianpublico7517]

Whether food water and shelter is provided by Nature, by other creatures or by civilization. Our value systems or evaluations change with each one, as do our taboos. Civilizations are different. What makes each different is their mastery of resources. Not how technologically advanced they are, how intimate their knowledge of Nature is; but if their strategies for employing resources are sustainable. Ultimately if their values are compatible with Nature's. How well they serve Nature's whims or if their service is only flattery. Their place in Nature's Court could be as a jesters, seraglio, bureaucrats, lawyers, accountants, footmen, guards, cryers, military or diplomatic advisors, wizards, queens or princes, rebels or prisoners, or plain subjects. Rivalry with Nature requires a mastery yet to be discovered by history.

[@J.M_Sterken]

Person: universal un/indentified conscious un/social living or dead organism. That's related to that of a human being.

[@dry509]

Have you investigated what creates the ‘I’, the me, the center, in consciousness ?

[@rangerjesse1659]

The U.S. Constitution protects rights of the people and persons. Pro-lifer's will try to argue that a human life is a person, but it is actually the human consciousness that make a person. You can have human life without human consciousness. I would argue that a human zygote has no human consciousness therefore is not a person.

[@SabiazothPsyche]

A "person" is purely a mental, that embodies from its somatic congenital personality and characteristic.

[@najamhaq]

Is it bad sound recording or is it my ears ??

[@buckaroo3589]

My neighbors and their children, unfortunately, are all hunter gatherers.

[@sailorr4287]

Why is that a bad thing?

[@jdf_132]

If children have less freedom in our society compare to hunter societies, could il be that adultes have less freedom too?

[@AceofDlamonds]

Technically yes, but that is kind of a nebulous idea in the first place. Hunter-gatherer or even primitive agricultural societies do not contain millions of people. They stick to their own "race" and will have less new ideas in the culture that create conflict; none of them want to upset the status quo. Whereas in modern societies we have had thousands of years of practice with revolution and seeing how bad things can get if we stay quiet

[@anuragkhunger7471]

Sir Diamond is Yuval Harari's inspirer :)

[@dueldab2117]

It’s all about Memories and the ability to call them. Your memories make you.

[@arnevajsing7120]

Not necesarely. You can still have preferences from birth.

[@PetraKann]

@@arnevajsing7120 so a person who committed a murder or crime but has no memory of the event is innocent and cant be tried for that crime? Is the person that committed the murder a different person?

[@Ploskkky]

" Your memories make you." I tend to agree, but when we recall memories we change them, edit them unknowingly. We do not have pure unaltered memories. So what then does this mean for who we are?

[@dueldab2117]

@@FirstnameLastname-ty1qd they still have them. Just can’t recall them. But they start making new ones immediately.

[@dueldab2117]

@@FirstnameLastname-ty1qd translated in the brain. Memories have language no?

[@marce953]

Persons are as bubbles in air.

[@stringsseeds]

The ultimate definition of "persons" or "no persons" are in Buddhism. The Diamond Sutra says all laws (dharmas) are "no self, no others, no living beings, no life - nothing at all ". This is superficially undestood as emptiness in Madhyamaka (Middle Way). However, in Yogacara Buddhism (Mind-Only), it says that all there is are just 8 Consciousness which each "so-called being" possesses. Other than these 8 Consciousness, and their differentiation, there is really nothing out there. With these 8 Consciousness each, "so-called being", is going through endless cycles of birth and death from INFINITE PAST, and hence takes on different forms and plays different roles. Different forms could be human, or animal. Different roles mean this lifetime one could be your father but in one of the past life times could be your son. So in this scheme of things, 8 Consciousness are like 8 processor chips that are doing the processing and present the entire universe of experiences, different forms could mean that you play the role of superman, ultraman, ironman, zombie, treasure hunter, or any other role in a computer simulation game. Different roles could be you are my team mate now and next game could be my enemy. The "self" concept comes in when you are in the game which you feel so real that there is a "real you" in the game - but there is "no you" or "no-self". Yogacara says the "self" concept arises from 7th Consciousness. If we think of 8th Consciousness as a DVD or data soruce, 7th Consciousness is like the DVD player, the first 6 Consciousnes are like the TV screen, speakes and etc.. All names like human, animals, and so on are emergent and given for convenience for speaking where some of these things might not even exist like superman and ultraman. But we are easily attached to these names, things, and concepts that are devoid of any meaning and reality ultimately. Therefore, there is really "no self, no others, no living beings, no life - nothing at all ".

[@cps_Zen_Run]

Every society has their own norms. Ancient (hunter gatherers) society: Everyone must learn to contribute to the group. Modern: ?? I am clueless how to respond correctly. That’s why I choose science instead of sociology. LOL.

[@S3RAVA3LM]

Which effects the other more: science of sociology?

[@sailorr4287]

Is Lawrence still using the word "primitive" in this way?

[@raspberrypi4970]

The Universe creates infinite idiot's just to eat them.. Rick

[@geraldvaughn8403]

Even Europeans and Americans raise children very differently.

[@hematadopormenos]

The vast majority of persons are not of the human species. Why is it we only talk about human persons?

[@xspotbox4400]

This interview sound more like an anthropology than philosophy. This subject is very wide and complex, but OK, everything could be philosophy this days. Eternal children, that's an interesting idea, living with such a powerful curse must definitely leave traces in a personality development. From what i know a personality begin to form at age two or three years old, when children are completely dependent from a mother. But it's not a tribal thing, we can observe this differences in a modern, urban environment just as well. Some parents pay a lot of attention to their child development, others raise them as pets or even like beasts. There are 3 general parental groups, primitive, modern and idiots, governments need all kinds. But i can't agree with distinction from gatherers to hunters, that's nonsense. What does he means by children posing danger to society, give any child a box of matches, let him loose and entire village will soon burn, for sure. Specially in the modern age, when we're all surrounded by artificial and energetic things. Isolated societies will develop their unique culture and behavior, simply because they lack contacts with other communities and modern cities. So people can behave like a pack of wolves, better say dogs since domesticated animals are most common friends of isolated children. Or they can organize a church and follow certain rituals, can became a hippy commune, work gulag, even oasis for rich and influential families, surrounded by private guards and security cameras, those causing strong sensations of paranoia and schizophrenia. There are so many possibilities this days, much depends on economics, except all people share common global ethics and a culture shaped by the popular media.

[@bertrc2569]

Absolutely agree! Although the video was interesting I was looking for the philosophical/ metaphysical/ biological interrogation. The question is so good.

[@leonoradompor8706]

Justice for my mom, she was given Astrscenica covid jab and shes dead now after 2 weeks of jab.

[@soubhikmukherjee6871]

Persons never existed in the first place. That's something we imagined through God consciousness. In other words, we've been hallucinating and that's also another hallucination. That's something so obvious to awaken spiritual leaders like Christ, Buddha, Mohammed and today's genius Leo Gura.

[@SpiritualPsychotherapyServices]

Is Mr. Gura a spiritual teacher or a spiritual MASTER? 🤔 If you are uncertain of the distinction between the two, I shall be MORE than happy to enlighten you. 😇

[@soubhikmukherjee6871]

@@SpiritualPsychotherapyServices The duality simply doesn't exist.

[@SpiritualPsychotherapyServices]

@@soubhikmukherjee6871 are you ABSOLUTELY certain of that? 🤨

[@soubhikmukherjee6871]

@@SpiritualPsychotherapyServices are you awaken friend??

[@dueldab2117]

Ok Gupta why did it just hurt to slap my imaginary arm?

[@matishakabdullah5874]

All persons are naturally the same but individually different by how one have been nurtured (this is a dynamic process which means a person nuturely can change). There many external factors involve in nurturing such parents, siblings, friends, society, environment and other learning media that plays part in shaping a person. This indicates a dualism of every human being. Prophet Muhammad SAW said a child is born clean in fitrah/natural disposition an; Abu Huraira reported: The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “No child is born but that he is upon natural instinct. His parents make him a Jew, or a Christian, or Magian. As an animal delivers a child with limbs intact, do you detect any flaw?” Then, Abu Huraira recited the verse, “The nature of Allah upon which he has set people,” Q(30:30). In other clean as white paper to be colored

[@xspotbox4400]

Amen to that.

[@quackcharge]

what are UAP?

[@everready2903]

We're individual units of consciousness.

[@channelwarhorse3367]

We are manifest by the qua viz to action to react to heaven if no the garden to life .... we must have substance ...all crew .. pilot plot course Garden Beta ike Circle .....

[@channelwarhorse3367]

Is one thing to know the light, is another to know community or civilization ... we go to Heaven .... for a Garden ...

[@channelwarhorse3367]

For friendship we go Noahic .... life must exist for a garden ... all crew security breach ...alert ...alert ....invisibility is real... draw stone arms .... to the edge we cut more than stone .... by the light we go ....

[@TAROTAI]

@1:38 Make up your mind about _differences_ First you say you were naive about Guineans, being different (psychic) and then Guineans are just like everybody else - then you veer off into 'how friendship is totally utilitarian in New Guinea'??? How about Cannibals (which you did not mention) - Is it Dementia or are you just a fool? You imagine that cannibalistic tribes act/behave much like any other cultures? Cannibalism is still practised in Liberia, as well as the Democratic Republic of the Congo. It was definitively practised in Papua New Guinea as of 2012. It is in full use for cultural reasons and in ritualistic settings in various Melanesian tribes. What an ignoramus to make such sweeping statements about *persons* in world cultures.

[@maxwellsimoes238]

He WRONG. Each person is diferent. However culture arent person diferently. He explains no sense. No clear evidence igual person.

[@mediocrates3416]

Homeostasis has mass!

[@SpiritualPsychotherapyServices]

How so?

[@mediocrates3416]

@@SpiritualPsychotherapyServices Sean Carrol on Veritasium describes how two particles bound together in a single body can have more or less energy in their binding. When stasis is challenged, energy is added: in homeostasis some of that energy is channeled into the organism's (particle's?) binding energy resulting in a correspondingly tiny mass increase.

[@mediocrates3416]

Interesting prediction: a contain filled with gas and heated should increase its mass and *all* of that increase should be in the walls of the container....? Maybe not all but, more.

[@mediocrates3416]

@@SpiritualPsychotherapyServices 2Veritasium. apparently there's 2.

[@williamesselman3102]

A biological entity with capacity for agency that is created when 23 chromosomes of a male human combine with 23 chromosomes of a female human.

[@alanbeaumont4848]

Except that not everyone human has that perfect set of chromosomes.

[@williamesselman3102]

@@alanbeaumont4848 FairPoint, in the event of biological disorders or abnormality, it can be from 44 to 46 chromosomes.

[@xspotbox4400]

Technically speaking, all humans begin as a woman, since we grow from a woman body organ, but about half of us are born as a man. I'am not into that diversity BS thing, just saying, there are two sexes simply because that's the way our species reproduce, but from perspective of mental abilities we're both exactly the same.

[@williamesselman3102]

@@Bringadingus words mean things.

[@williamesselman3102]

@@xspotbox4400 Studies suggest that there are very small differences in general mental ability between men and women; there are differences in the way their brains process language, information, emotion, and cognition.

[@soubhikmukherjee6871]

Don't interview religious fundamentalists and scientists Robert. Go to the enlightened masters. They know everything about the ultimate nature of reality.

[@SpiritualPsychotherapyServices]

🐟 02. A BRIEF SYNOPSIS OF “LIFE”: Everything, both perceptible and imperceptible - that is, any gross or subtle OBJECT within the material universe which can ever be perceived with the cognitive faculties, plus the SUBJECT (the observer of all phenomena) - is to what most persons generally refer when they use the term “God”, since they usually conceive of the Primeval Creator as being the Perfect Person, and “God” (capitalized) is a personal epithet of the Unconditioned Absolute. However, this anthropomorphized conception of The Absolute is a fictional character of divers mythologies. According to most every enlightened sage in the history of this planet, the Ultimate Reality is, far more logically, Absolutely NOTHING, or conversely, Absolutely EVERYTHING - otherwise called “The Tao”, “The Great Spirit”, “Brahman”, “Pure Consciousness”, “Eternal Awareness”, “Independent Existence”, “The Ground of All Being”, “Uncaused Nature”, “The Undifferentiated Substratum of Reality”, “The Unified Field”, et cetera - yet, as alluded to above, inaccurately referred to as a personal deity by the masses (e.g. “God”, “Allah”, “Yahweh”, “Bhagavan”, etc.). In other words, rather than the Supreme Truth being a separate, Blissful, Supra-Conscious Being (The Godhead Himself or The Goddess), Ultimate Reality is Eternal-Existence Limitless-Awareness Unconditional-Peace ITSELF. That which can be perceived, can not be perceiving! Because the Unmanifested Absolute is infinite creative potentiality, “it” actualizes as EVERYTHING, in the form of ephemeral, cyclical universes. In the case of our particular universe, we reside in a cosmos consisting of space-time, matter and energy, without, of course, neglecting the most fundamental dimension of existence (i.e. conscious awareness - although, “it” is, being the subject, by literal definition, non-existent). Just as a knife cannot cut itself, nor the mind comprehend itself, nor the eyes see themselves, The Absolute cannot know Itself (or at least objectively EXPERIENCE Itself), and so, has manifested this phenomenal universe within Itself for the purpose of experiencing Itself, particularly through the lives of self-aware beings, such as we sophisticated humans. Therefore, this world of duality is really just a play of consciousness within Consciousness, in the same way that a dream is a person's sleeping narrative set within the life-story of an “awakened” individual. APPARENTLY, this universe, composed of “mind and matter”, was created with the primal act (the so-called “Big Bang”), which started, supposedly, as a minute, slightly uneven ball of light, which in turn, was instigated, ultimately, by Extra-Temporal Supra-Consciousness. From that first deed, every motion or action that has ever occurred has been a direct (though, almost exclusively, an indirect) result of it. Just as all the extant energy in the universe was once contained within the inchoate singularity, Infinite Consciousness was NECESSARILY present at the beginning of the universe, and is in no way an epiphenomenon of a neural network. Discrete consciousness, on the other hand, is entirely dependent on the neurological faculty of individual animals (the more highly-evolved the species, the greater its cognitive abilities). “Sarvam khalvidam brahma” (a Sanskrit maxim from the “Chandogya Upanishad”, meaning “all this is indeed Brahman” or “everything is the Universal Self alone”). There is NAUGHT but Eternal Being, Conscious Awareness, Causeless Peace - and you are, quintessentially, that! This “Theory of Everything” can be more succinctly expressed by the mathematical equation: E=A͚ (Everything is Infinite Awareness). HUMANS are essentially this Eternally-Aware-Peace, acting through an extraordinarily-complex biological organism, comprised of the eight rudimentary elements - pseudo-ego (the assumed sense of self), intellect, mind, solids, liquids, gases, heat (fire), and ether (three-dimensional space). When one peers into a mirror, one doesn't normally mistake the reflected image to be one's real self, yet that is how we humans conventionally view our ever-mutating form. We are, rather, in a fundamental sense, that which witnesses all transitory appearances. Everything which can be presently perceived, both tangible and immaterial, including we human beings, is a culmination of that primary manifestation. That is the most accurate and rational explanation for “karma” - everything was preordained from the initial spark, and every action since has unfolded as it was predestined in ETERNITY, via an ever-forward-moving trajectory. The notion of retributive (“tit-for-tat”) karma is just that - an unverified notion. Likewise, the idea of a distinct, reincarnating “soul” or “spirit” is largely a fallacious belief. Whatever state in which we currently find ourselves, is the result of two factors - our genetic make-up at conception and our present-life conditioning (which may include mutating genetic code). Every choice ever made by every human and non-human animal was determined by those two factors ALONE. Therefore, free-will is purely illusory, despite what most believe. Chapter 11 insightfully demonstrates this truism. As a consequence of residing within this dualistic universe, we experience a lifelong series of fluctuating, transient pleasures and pains, which can take the form of physical, emotional, and/or financial pleasure or pain. Surprisingly to most, suffering and pain are NOT synonymous. Suffering is due to a false sense of personal agency - the belief that one is a separate, independent author of one’s thoughts, emotions, and deeds, and that, likewise, other persons are autonomous agents, with complete volition to act, think, and feel as they wish. Another way of stating the same concept is as follows: suffering is due to the intellect being unwilling to accept life as it manifests moment by moment. There are five SYMPTOMS of suffering, all of which are psychological in nature: 1. Guilt 2. Blame 3. Pride 4. Anxiety 5. Regrets about the past and expectations for the future These types of suffering are the result of not properly understanding what was explained above - that life is a series of happenings and NOT caused by the individual living beings. No living creature, including Homo sapiens, has personal free-will. There is only the Universal, Divine Will at play, acting through every body, to which William Shakespeare famously alluded when he scribed “All the world's a stage, and all the men and women merely players.” The human organism is essentially a biopsychological machine, comprised of the five gross material elements (which can be perceived with the five senses) and the three subtle material elements (the three levels of cognition, which consist of abstract thought objects), listed above. Cont...

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The ANTIDOTE to all mental anguish is to firstly discern pain from suffering, then to achieve complete relief from that miserable state of existence, by abandoning the erroneous belief in personal authorship, and abiding in the primordial sense of being (the unqualified “I am”, which is one's core identity). This is the very same peace which is experienced each night during the dreamless phase of the sleep cycle. This "resting imperturbably as Flawless Awareness" can be practiced on a regular basis, until it is fully assimilated and integrated into one's life. Every person, from time immemorial, has been either intentionally or unwittingly seeking such causeless peace, most commonly by practicing one of the four systems of YOGA (religion) delineated in the sixteenth chapter of this work, or else in creating wealth and the acquisition of material possessions, or in psycho-physical pleasures. That peace of mind is often referred to as “happiness”, “joy”, or “love”, and often presumed to be a temporal state, since many assume, incorrectly, that continuous peace is unavailable in this life. Fortunately, that is not the case - it is eminently possible to live one's life acquainted with unbroken peace of mind, if destined. Following DHARMA (frameworks of authentic religion and societal duties) is not guaranteed to achieve that desired tranquillity of mind, but even so, it is beneficial for individuals, since it establishes a structure which enables one to more easily elevate oneself beyond the mundane, animalistic platform (i.e. the base pursuits of eating, sleeping and mating). Intrinsic to dharma is the division of the adult male population into the four classes of society and the inherent role of girls and women in society, as fully elucidated in latter chapters of this Holy Scripture. So, now that you understand life, and the reason why we are suffering here in this (ostensively) material universe, you are now able to be liberated from all mental suffering, RIGHT? WRONG! It is imperative to approach an authentic spiritual master to assist you to come to the above realization, by slowly undoing your past conditioning. Just as you have been conditioned over an entire lifetime to think one way, you need to be re-conditioned to think another way (in alignment with your essential identity as The Divine). For one who has himself for a teacher, that man has a veritable fool as his teacher. Even if you adhere closely to the precepts of a competent teacher, you may still not come to a full understanding of life, but if you are sincere, humble and dedicated, you will definitely find more peace in your daily life - all of which was DESTINED to occur, of course. Furthermore, if you are suitably-qualified and it was ordained, you may be fortunate enough to receive discipline from one of the EXTREMELY rare fully-enlightened masters residing on earth at any given time (perchance even the current World Teacher himself), and subsequently realize the aforementioned fundamental concepts, by diligently studying authoritative doctrines (especially the most accurate and complete of all extant Scriptures, this “Final Instruction Sheet for Humanity”), serving your guru with great reverence and devotion, and by deliberately avoiding undue harm to oneself, to other individuals, to society as a whole, and to the natural environment, including other life forms. Most beneficially, you are urged to become VEGAN, since carnism (the destructive ideology which supports the use and consumption of animal products, especially for “food”) is, apart from illegitimate (non-monarchical) governance and feminism, arguably the foremost existential crisis. Best wishes for your unique, personal journey towards unalloyed peace and HAPPINESS! “The gateway to knowledge is ignorance”. “You are this universe and you are creating it at every moment, because, you see, it starts now. It didn't begin in the past - there IS no past.” ************* “Find out who you REALLY are so that when death comes…there is no-one to kill, for while you are identified with your role, with your name, with your ego, there is someone to kill. But when you are identified with the whole universe, death finds you already annihilated and there’s no-one to kill”. ************* “A wise Rabbi once said 'If I am I because you are you, and you are you because I am I, then I am not I, and you are not you'. In other words, we are not separate.” ************* “Better to have a short life that is full of what you like doing, than a long life spent in a miserable way.” ************* “The meaning of life is life itself.” Professor Dr. Alan Wilson Watts, British-American Philosopher. (06/01/1915 - 16/11/1973). “What you seek is seeking you.” ************* “Don't you know yet? It is your light that lights the worlds.” ************* “Stop acting so small. You are the universe in ecstatic motion.” ************* “We are one. Everything in the universe is within you. Ask all from yourself.” ************* “The lamps are different, but the light is the same.” Jalāl ad-Dīn Muhammad Rūmī, Persian Sunni Muslim poet, jurist, Islamic scholar, theologian, and Sufi mystic. (30/09/1207 - 17/12/1273).

[@soubhikmukherjee6871]

@@SpiritualPsychotherapyServices great 👍. Then spread this message of love and compassion ❤💜. Best of luck.

[@markupton1417]

And who are those "enlightened masters" he should talk with?

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@@soubhikmukherjee6871 To read the remaining twenty-nine chapters of “A Final Instruction Sheet for Humanity”, which are the most authoritative, accurate and complete spiritual precepts extant, Email: [e-mail] with the acronym “FISH” in the subject field. 🐟 “The gateway to KNOWLEDGE is ignorance”. 🤓 Incidentally, Souvik, thanks for wishing me the best LUCK, but I don’t believe in luck. The term “luck” implies some degree of chance and I know for a fact that NOTHING happens purely by chance. 😇

[@cvsree]

Consciousness + ego = person Pure consciousness = God Person - ego = ???

[@garychartrand7378]

I like your formulation. = Pure Soul (our true eternal selves)

[@holgerjrgensen2166]

There is No living thing, - Mr. Kuhn. All Living Beings, are Life-Units, all life-units have their own 'personality'. (and Eternal Consciousness)

[@ericgamble2517]

Are you people educated out of your minds this is total crap.

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🐟 10. EGO (THE SENSE OF SELF): The Latin first-person singular pronoun, “EGO” (“I”, in English) has been incorporated into the English language, yet with a rather unorthodox import, particularly in spiritual circles, where it is used as a noun, although it is a poor translation of the Sanskrit “ahaṃkāra”, which is more accurately a verb. Most persons misuse the word for “an exaggerated sense of self-importance”, “arrogance”, “conceit” or “haughtiness”, etc. Compare the concepts of egoity in this chapter with the Freudian concept of “The I” (“Das Ich”, in German). “Ahaṃ” simply means “I/Ego”, and “ahaṃkāra” means “Creating the I/self”, or “Activating the sense of self”, or “Constructing one's identity”. As an aside, some Sanskrit scholars have noticed that the word “ahaṃ” is formed of a+ha+ṃ, a triad of Śiva (a), Śakti (ha) and bindu (ṃ). The whole Sanskrit alphabet is enclosed by those two syllables, just as the Greek tongue begins and ends with “alpha” and “omega”, respectively. “I am the Alpha and the Omega!”, said God in the book of “Revelations”. Incidentally, the palindrome of “ahaṃ” is “mahā”, meaning “GREAT”. The most accurate definition of “Ego/I” is: “the self, which is a conscious PERSON”. A human person is the Stainless Consciousness of Source, acting through a particular body-mind complex, which in turn, is an ever-morphing biological organism. As explained elsewhere in this Holy Scripture, the body-mind complex is more accurately described as a process (a verb) rather than a fixed object (a noun), which is why the sages of ancient India (properly called “Bhārata”) preferred to categorize all transient phenomena as “unreal/non-existent” (“asat”, in Sanskrit), rather than “real/existent” (“sat”, in Sanskrit). So how do “you” feel now that it has been demonstrated that “you” are non-existent? :-) Therefore, whenever the word “ego” is heard in practically any spiritual/religious context, it is not to be taken LITERALLY (“I”) but in the sense of “ahaṃkāra” (a mistaken sense of self-identity, or sometimes as a synonym for superciliousness). Inept Sanskrit-to-English translators are probably guilty for this misunderstanding. False egoity (“ahaṃkāra”) is an errant conception of oneself. In other words, it is the idea that “I am an independent agent, with the volition to freely think, feel and behave as I choose”, instead of simply an unqualified “I AM” (“ahaṃ”, in Sanskrit) or at the very least, “I am all-encompassing existence” (“ahaṃ brahmāsmi”, in Sanskrit). Simply put, it is identification with anything not of the actual self/Self. In practical terms, it is any noun or adjective placed after the expression “I am”. For example, “I am a woman” or “I am rich”. So, when the true self (which is Brahman, the TOTALITY of existence) misidentifies itself with a particular body-mind organism, it is “pseudo-ego” (ahaṃkāra) but when the self/Self identifies with Conscious Awareness (Brahman), acting through the body-mind organism, it is the “authentic ego” (“ātman/Paramātmāṇ”, in Sanskrit). Obviously, this misidentification with one's mind and body, or name and form (“nāma-rūpa”, in Sanskrit) is not a flaw of the Flawless Absolute, but merely a play of the divine comedy (“līlā”, in Sanskrit). Alternatively, one could claim that it is, rather, the PSEUDO-EGO which misidentifies as the real self/Self. In that case, when the pseudo-ego identifies as the Universal Self, it is the true ego. This may occur during or following a peak experience of cosmic awakening, or it may ensue after a period of yogic practice (see Chapter 16 for a description of the four systems of yoga/religion). In my particular case, following decades of earnest religious practice, I rarely lose sight of the realization that I am, essentially, the All. Yet, even that understanding and realization was destined from all eternity (see the next chapter). Humans usually believe that they are the body-mind organism. Those who have awakened (or at least spiritually aware) consider themselves to NOT be their body-mind. One who is truly enlightened knows for certain that he is both a human being on the relative level, but quintessentially the very ground of being in the Absolute sense. That which can perceive any impermanent phenomenon is the real self/ego/I. When properly analysed, the phrase “I am Spirit” or “I am All” (“ahaṃ brahmāsmi”, in Sanskrit) means “I, the ego (the relative persona) am Nothing/Everything/Brahman/Tao/Spirit (the Absolute Ground of Being)”. Chapter 06 explores further the nature of the Supreme Self. Finally, it could be argued, with some degree of merit, that since the English language already has a word for oneself (“I”), that we ought to keep using the English dictionary definition of “ego” (as the false sense of oneself). However, because the great majority of advanced religionists and spiritual practitioners outside Bhārata (India) who speak of these concepts, base their language on Sanskrit and/or Pali, it is far more accurate to separate “ego” (ahaṃ) from “false egoity” (ahaṃkāra). The LITERAL translation should predominate, to avoid ambiguity. “The first and foremost of all thoughts, the primeval thought in the mind of every man, is the thought ‘I’. It is only after the birth of this thought that any other thoughts can arise at all. It is only after the first personal pronoun, ‘I’, has arisen in the mind that the second personal pronoun, ‘you’, can make its appearance. If you could mentally follow the ‘I’ thread until it led you back to its source you would discover that, just as it is the first thought to appear, so it is the last to disappear. This is a matter which can be experienced.” Venkataraman Iyer (AKA Śri Ramana Maharshi), South Indian Sage. “Consciousness is never experienced in the plural, only in the singular. Even in the pathological cases of split consciousness or double personality the two persons alternate, they are never manifest simultaneously. In a dream we do perform several characters at the same time, but not indiscriminately: we are one of them; in him we act and speak directly, while we often eagerly await the answer or response of another person, unaware of the fact that it is we who control his movements and his speech just as much as our own. ... Each of us has the indisputable impression that the sum total of his own experience and memory forms a unit, quite distinct from that of any other person. He refers to it as 'I'. What is this 'I'? If you analyse it closely, you will, I think, find that it is just a little bit more than a collection of single data (experiences and memories), namely the canvas upon which they are collected. And you will, on close introspection, find that what you really mean by 'I' is that ground-stuff upon which they are collected.” From the epilogue to “What is Life?”, Erwin Rudolf Josef Alexander Schrödinger, Austrian Physicist.