Analysis: Quake 4 (and why it didn't deserve the hate)

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[@Jarekthegamingdragon]

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[@akshatsharma5051]

Would you do a video on binary domain??? One of my favorite

[@GarytheDean]

Quake 4 was my first and only Quake game. And for that it's near and dear to my heart.

[@stevenlrussell]

My dad could beat your dad up

[@AndroidFerret]

@@stevenlrussell your mum can't cook coffee...

[@AndroidFerret]

Awesome video... Quake was always awesome.. Except quake champions... Not the game play... The micro transaction bullshit

[@PvEGamingChannel]

One thing that's good about Quake 4 is that it has an actual campaign.

[@MasterControl90original]

like quake 1 and 2.... quake 3 is the anomaly

[@PvEGamingChannel]

@@MasterControl90original Does Quake 3 have a campaign?

[@MasterControl90original]

@@PvEGamingChannel nope, just a series of desthmatches with bots

[@trobriandstorm]

@@MasterControl90original yes but its just deathmatch with bots , still a great mp game back then

[@PvEGamingChannel]

@@MasterControl90original Yeah, exactly. Quake 4's advantage is actually having a campaign.

[@killop141]

Can you imagine this game in VR especially the medical augment part lol.

[@LowSkillSurvival]

Horrifying.

[@MideonProductions]

I would love it in VR!

[@AstralPhnx]

That part squeems the hell out of me NORMALLY for goodness sake

[@xl4712]

Team Beef is working on a VR port of it rn

[@TIAGTIWIICTP]

LOL

[@Lyanlolz]

Raven software is underappreciated for their works

[@DenGuleBalje]

They're basically baby ID. I mean they were so good that ID let them make a mainline Quake game AND a Wolfenstein game. Then they made Singularity which basically was Wolfenstein, but with Commies this time

[@sibanbgd100]

@@DenGuleBalje with commies AND time*

[@DenGuleBalje]

@@sibanbgd100 Yes Commies and time travel

[@Devilsblood]

I think they were the same guys that worked on the Wolverine origins game, which is absolutely amazing.

[@cillianennis9921]

even this here game one of the weaker Raven Software games is still far better than most developers worst games. Just look at the people who make the cod games. Raven sadly has been forced to only do cod instead of their own thing maybe one day they'll escape Activisions grasp.

[@bishoplek2762]

Doom 3 and quake 4 took so much of my time

[@Jack_War]

I was a 13 year old fanboy kid for these games and id software, now i am 24 and still fanboy of id software and doom eternal 😍👌

[@bishoplek2762]

@@Jack_War I'm only two years younger than you I know what you mean man

[@kelmad9461]

You still work at gamestop? XD

[@scarecrow2097]

First thing I noticed and loved in this game: its an fps with npc soldiers that are actually useful.

[@ftkingfish203]

Especially Cortez, he even does frickin headshots.

[@tdab3883]

I really love that the soldiers are actual npc ready to fight and not only embellishers to make the fight look big

[@lalo3841]

I think this is one of the few games where I don't need to baby sit the allied NPCs Cough opposing forces cough

[@gub4941]

Love opposing force, but yes, the friendly ai is braindead

[@SpecShadow]

also - Q4 had no sewer level

[@bryinabrt]

@@SpecShadow technically there's the waste disposal facility which is very similar

[@Eldwinn]

my favorite quake game still

[@ghostieeboi]

Wait. This game was HATED!?!?! I love this game!

[@drutarthesavage5156]

I just wanted to write the same thing. Word by word.

[@fartloudYT]

might have been a good game, but it wasnt anything like quake 1, 2 and 3. hate is warranted.

[@somedude3100]

@@fartloudYT "it's different so it's bad"

[@protocetid]

@@somedude3100 nice reduction fallacy

[@somedude3100]

@@protocetid Incorrect. Facts and oversimplification are completely different things. He said it was a good game but because it was different it deserved hate. That's literally his words 1:1. It's an incredibly stupid mindset. Don't start using phrases you don't understand yet.

[@stu2729]

I also really enjoyed the game, but haven´t played it in many years. Fun fact: The german version was extremly censored. For example the whole operation scene was cut out. So you get knocked out, get rescued and when you see yourself in the mirror you´re just suddenly an alien. It was bad.

[@gundamsdm]

Wow... I'm guessing it's to prevent future nazis or something lol 😁

[@stu2729]

@@gundamsdm Since you mentioned it, they also censored every swastika shown in a video game.

[@stu2729]

@Agent 005 No real reason behind it, I am from germany and in the past the censorship in games was immense! For example in Soldier of Fortune 2 every enemy was replaced with a robot and even the story was changed, so that the robots would "make sense".

[@_gouda7928]

All the marines in Half Life were changed to robots in the German version. Also allied NPCs, upon being killed, just sit down and shake their head.

[@astralfem7225]

@DetSomGömsIsnö its not censored anymore

[@CreativeUsernameHere-r1k]

It's my favorite fps really...why was it hated? It felt great...

[@Grimmations]

Ikr, I feel the same about doom 3

[@guguce28]

Because its a doom 3 repaint but who cares?

[@NSFSponsor]

@@guguce28 Quake 1 was essentially 3D Doom

[@guguce28]

Damion Dixon yeah very true stuff.

[@CreativeUsernameHere-r1k]

@@guguce28 it's nore like a fix for the pioneering of doom...doom was used to pioneer the tech to a level wolfenstein didn't try yet and wuake mastered it always...like return to cast. Wolfenstein than D3 than Q4... same as whit 2.5 d games...

[@xdas11]

I really enjoyed this game wished it had a continuation....

[@ArcturusOTE]

@Agent 005 eh, who knows, maybe after Doom Eternal has it's support cycle ended, maybe iD will give this one a try. Collab with Splash Damage for multiplayer, call in Nine Inch Nails again for the sound and music, and you have the perfect recipe for a Quakeback

[@Elitesolider1023]

I would rather have quake 5 over A. Reboot to continue Kane story. He is definitely up there with doom slayer.

[@DKSON1337]

This game and Return to Castle Wolfenstein are the 2 games that got me so scared as a kid I had to make my dad play them and I just sat there and watched lmao

[@DeadYorick]

Quake 4 is one of my favorite FPS's and I am always genuinely disappointed at how much of a negative reception it still gets to this day for being "generic". It has a really satisfying core gameplay loop and it gets progressively better as it goes on. Once you get to the last 3rd and unlock the shotgun with a magazine it's at its peak. I genuinely prefer it to Doom 3.

[@keith5524]

I was 7 when I played this and experienced that mutilation scene this game scared the hell out of me

[@geoffdb8118]

Damn I was 12 and it fucked me up .. you must be scarred for life

[@kan249]

I liked all the Quakes. Quake 2 was my favorite though.

[@GregFurey98]

This was actually the first quake game I played. I had a great time with it and ended up playing through the rest of the series a few years later.

[@The_Barroth]

Playing through as we speak. I love this game and I wish they’d make another story driven quake Now that doom has wrapped up (for now) I think it’d be a great time to revive quake

[@Lexie_Tyler05]

My dad and I always adored Quake 4, playing multiplayer with the next door neighbour shouting out the window to communicate, while jumping around with rail guns trying to hit each other for hours on end, the good times this game gave will always hold a special place in my heart

[@BrennanTheContentWhisperer]

Obi Wan Kenobi how’d you get Darth Maul in episode 1 if he had the high ground? Shouldn’t he have cut you up instead the other way around

[@lowlow6929]

The moons have aligned our merciful ruler has chosen to share yet another document from the sacred archives

[@thekotabear3262]

This was one of the first FPS games I played as a kid. I have alot of love for this game, and the story while not original had a unique look

[@MrSunburntspring]

This was my first 360 game when I was in middle school, loved the campaign and I remember how the gore always made me want to shut it off but I got used to it. I played Quake 2 on the PC when I was younger but never got to experience the multiplayer until this one. Played it again just recently and I've been silently hoping that with the recent reboots of Doom and Wolfenstein that Quake will get the same treatment. I mean this game was literally left wide open to a sequel, I've always wondered since the 6th grade how playing as kane in Quake 5 would be like. With Quake champions shitting the bed, I don't think we'll ever find out.

[@ryanarchuleta6231]

Quake 4 has one of my favorite video game shotguns.

[@blacklabel131]

I got my grandma to buy me this when i was like 8 or something, oooooohhh the look on her face when she saw the opening scene xD

[@AllardRT]

>video title about how Quake 4 didn't deserve the hate Aight, got my attention >PS1 startup sound at the beginning I'd like to inform you that I am clicking those Like and Subscribe buttons, good sir.

[@jerglow]

On xbox it was awesome too because it came with a great port of quake 2

[@trobriandstorm]

Never found the original Activision version with the extra disc, its pretty rare nowadays.

[@paulnathanmullock6214]

@@trobriandstorm I found it on eBay once for I think 150 lol.

[@jerglow]

Shit really 150? I'm sitting on gold lol

[@wadelockard5592]

@@jerglow www.ebay.com/itm/Replacement-Bonus-Disc-For-Quake-4-For-Xbox-360-Very-Good-8466-/262900753873 no you're not lol

[@jankudahl2065]

Quake 4 - False Dawn DLC Jarek or anyone else tried this?

[@davorbrijacak]

Awesome mod. Better than original game, but very short.

[@KainiaKaria]

My only problem with Quake 4 are the vehicle sequences.

[@luisfillipiantonio5953]

I played Quake 4 when I was 5 (and replayed it when I was 8, thanks big brother). It was my favorite game at the time and I thought it was very scary, I even had a nightmare about it. I still have a nice memory from playing it on a cold winter all cozy and seeing the flying dwarfs fucking the corpses. good times, great nostalgia I had when I replayed it a few months ago

[@sigma_delta]

when 2005/hd era gaming is old school, I feel old :(

[@Viviana088]

1:07 Perfectly balanced as all things should be!

[@GojiraRising]

Gotta love Trent Reznor's theme.

[@Makron220]

Chris Vrenna made the Q4 main theme.

[@GojiraRising]

@@Makron220 I meant to say that the game reminds me of Trent Reznor's theme.😄

[@HoveringNebula]

By far a fantastic traumatizing experience, if that makes sense. I've never been too bugged out by wanton gore, but Quake IV is still a game that gives me a thousand meter stare time to time. There's really not many horror games that can do that to a person.

[@ErebosGR]

Man, the Strogg-ification scene was so intense it almost gave me PTSD.

[@wisedragon3359]

I still play Quake 4 alot on my 360 to this day and I love it.

[@itzjustkris7964]

Quake 4 and halo were one of the first games I ever played and halo 2 and 3 bioshock and quake 4 are some of my favorite games ever …it was so scary and cool and just so interesting…tbh I thought it was a halo game for a long time

[@tominatorxx]

I hear the music of Rise of The Triad (2013 reamake) in the background. Love that soundtrack!

[@Vladiator]

My generalization of this game is that it's DOOM 3 but more action-focused with that later-Quake coat of paint. It's fine, I beat it a few times but I never thought it was amazing. It really only got hate because Quake 2 and Quake 3 completely derailed the serie's focus. Is Quake MP-focused or SP-focused? I don't even know how to feel about that. It's still a good game so no problem from me.

[@wub9044]

Hmm... I'm honestly curious what would Jarek think about this one little game called 'Bedlam'. That game where you travel through history of FPS games.

[@koosa6289]

I just started playing it for the first time and i love it!. The shooting feels sooo good

[@geoffdb8118]

Me too.. if you are on PC, get the 4x ai upscaled textures mod from moddb .. they look excellent. Also use reshade for color correction and ambient occlusion and the game looks amazing. Peace

[@covenantslayer1]

I remember this actually being the first Quake game I ever played years back on the 360 and surprisingly part of the reason it's pretty easy to get a 360 copy is cause Bethesda did a rerelease of that version a year after it hit Steam (though it doesn't come with the 360 port of Quake 2 like the Activision release did). And noting on the amount of hate Quake 4 gets, some people despise it so much that they say it killed the franchise (despite Quake Wars and Quake Champions coming out).

[@stephentibbens9844]

Dude Quake 4 was awesome! I love this game I still have the game disc for my xbox 360. This game was one my first introduction to ID software & Raven software games. It blows my mind that people hated this game.

[@eminemfan50098]

Never knew people disliked this game, I think it's great.

[@Pbmarron]

I loved Quake IV. It was one of my first Xbox 360 games, and I still play the hell out of it today.

[@benterry2681]

Wish they did a vr port like they did for doom 3

[@jaigray5422]

Dont care what anyone says I enjoyed quake 4 and dont get the hate for it either. it's a solid old school shooter done in the Doom 3 engine. It's not as old school as quake 1 or 2 but it's it's own game with it's own unique feeling and I enjoyed it. And the story is pretty good if you pay attention to it.

[@nekocatism]

I wish we would have a proper sequel to Quake 1 with NIИ ambient

[@ArcturusOTE]

So a return to Lovecraftian action horror as well as a much more heavier emphasis on fantasy elements? Yea that seems like a good idea

[@nekocatism]

@@ArcturusOTE Yup, exactly that. Also nailguns.

[@onion69420]

Played with ambient lighting for more fos, didn't knew it was this bad.

[@timothykirby4406]

I’m playing it now for the first time and it’s a lot of fun. If you love fps games on pc definitely play it.

[@kammyabhainn3053]

Quake 1 is my personal favourite

[@VetriVade]

I love the weapons in quake 4, I think they're some of the coolest looking guns in gaming. In quake champions I use every q4 gun I can get haha

[@marcosulu214]

I play first person shooter games for 20 years now. In my opinion Quake 4 has the best and smoothest shooting and aiming. I dont even know why. It gives wonderful feedback.

[@silversolitaire1519]

I’ve been playing through it recently, and I’m pretty happy with it.

[@Kondzio717]

Played it last year, and really had a bang. Especially the first half of the game was pretty climatic, almost felt like playing Verhoeven 'Starship Troopers'.

[@xacslayerx3014]

I think a lot of the hate was from people who were expecting a game more like Q3A or maybe even Quake 1, to this day I still want a proper sequel to Q1 but it didn't stop me from enjoying Q4, it is a solid game, the strogg transformation scene was sick.

[@Themanwithn0eyes]

This was one of my earliest games I played on the 360 and I remember hearing about the hate against it and never understood why. I enjoyed it since I played the first two (via N64. Hadn't played the PC verions yet). So yeah there's that. On a side note I did play the Quake II copy it came with.

[@KusmaUksus]

I like how the hate back then was its a generic fps. Im from that time and I don't know what fps they were playing because the selection wasn't that big. I haven't seen a sifi shooter with this much gore in it anywhere else execpt doom. Whis was also theirs. Can't bunnyhop in campaing= bad. Thats all it is. It plays exactly like the older quakes minus the cocaine

[@LuisPerez-5]

I loved Quake 4. The ship landing was one of the most mind-blowing things I saw in games

[@VioletElite4]

I remember that level when the Strogg capture you and cut off your limbs and put Strogg parts inside you. Still bonechilling to this day.

[@urazsoktay5275]

Quake 4 is an amazing game. And for it' s age it looks fantastic.

[@PvEGamingChannel]

I'm starting to get jealous of your ability to beat games. I just keep getting distracted by another game I want to play whenever I try to beat a game to the point that my PC is almost full and just can't get myself to finish one. I can't even muster the energy anymore to turn on my PC. It's like some kind of gaming anxiety.

[@marcosulu214]

Hey, friend. I can understand you. There are always so many good offers, that we keep buying and buying. But i stopped that someday. I told myself that the games will become cheap again someday, but in the next summer or winter sale it will be even cheaper. I started to finish my "old" games and stopped buying new games. My newest game is from January 2018 and there are still more than 100 unplayed games in my library. Today i only buy games when they are absolutely classics and really really cheap. There is no reason to buy more than 3 "tripple a" games per year, if there are still so many good games like quake 4 from 2005 waiting for you. Today i ordered black and white 2 at amazon for 1,50€ but thats because this game has a special place in my heart. Both games came out arround 2004/2005 and both still have amazing graphics.

[@xmop1000]

I think the game overall is good, not too bad and not too great. For me, it feels like a Doom 3 standalone expansion rather than a Quake game, Which is why somebody might not like it, but it’s not a bad game per se.

[@We_Are_Borg_478]

Truth be told, the machine gun was what got me hooked. It's single shot mode is amazing and the scoping was icing on the cake.

[@XniperXx]

What about enemy territory quake wars? Would love a revisit!

[@rodrigof.r.desouza3587]

Up until Q4 my favorite singleplayer-oriented Quake was Q2, which made me like Q4 even more for being a sequel to that game. At the time I thought it was much better than Doom 3, since you already started right into the action and there was even some vehicle/mech levels (which I also thought that were amazing, TBH). Enemy designs were incredible and the arsenal was deadly and efficient (at least there was actual flashlights on some weapons, too).

[@dirtyworkgames184]

Quake 4 was my first arena fps. I loved it

[@5hane9ro]

Despite sci-fi shooters being my favorite genre I'm surprised the only experience I have with the quake series is quake 4's demo on 360, game still looks as fun as I can remember. Need to actually buy this one

[@thetwistedworldofa.f.m7794]

6:35 at least quake 4 won't shoot up the school

[@RamrodAI]

I loved the storyline to be honest. It basically was just a follow up to Quake 2. It didn't need to have a super complicated and in-depth story line. It's basically just a war against a race that threatens Earth and other worlds' survival. And the gunplay I enjoyed very much as well. It wasn't ground breaking and I think that's what people want....every subsequint game has to be ground breaking for some reason.

[@johncarterlamb]

Quake 4 was my first game on my Xbox 360 and is still in my top 10 to this day

[@coffee0093]

I love quake 4 the shooting in the game is so satisfying, I think I got all the achievements for it on Xbox. I just wish that someday we get a sequel to the original quake like quake 4 does to quake 2.

[@nbleys5696]

Dude I really appreciate you doing this video! Quake 4 is one of my Favorite FPS games a long with the 1st F.E.A.R! I've been praying to the Game Gods for a sequel to Quake 4 every I finished it back in 2005. I think it's a great game. We need more quality/ creative FPS games. Enough of Call of Duty and Battlefield already. Whatever happened to the amazing quality and creativity. Like for example Chronicles of Riddick Escape from Butcher Bay! 😎

[@compmanio36]

Got this for 4 bucks at Big Lots and play it at least once a year. That texture issue patch also makes a big fix to frame rate problems so I highly recommend it.

[@ZioMcCall]

Uuuh,ROTT 2013 soundtrack as background.Good tastes.

[@Zaspor]

I always never understood the hate myself. It was pretty cool to me!

[@necromaniac1375]

best quake game

[@pseudogiant6504]

Quake4 is hated? It is like a sister game to Doom 3 with many enjoyable additions and I love it. Raven showed their talent yet again with that game but as with many of Raven's games, Quake4 was also sadly forgotten.

[@DileepNow]

Quake 4 is a great game and my favourite Quake campaign. It fills me with dread about what humanity could turn into, which I think is more horrifying or in a way more "lovecraftian" than shooting tentacle monsters which I think the haters wanted.

[@brainsorbet2853]

Played this recently. Really fun game and absolutely did not deserve the hate. Especially loved the level design

[@bigdog517]

I want a remake of this and Enemy Territory

[@97Imserious]

gunplay is really top notch. and the stroggification part... best moment in gaming history

[@thetankhunter100]

Hey great video could you do a video on Freedom Fighters?

[@jazz8000]

Yeah man, sorry to say but Jarek suffers a rare disease, he can't play games that aren't FPSkappa

[@ironhide9220]

Always wondering why stroggs everytime when see me screams CLITOOOR or CLITAAAR. It was so fun. Ah nostalgia.

[@MrKOLCOO]

I actually liked the game, also the ,,upgrades,, were cool ( getting the strog body, and then the weapons upgrades - they could do moře with it ) i kinda hope for quake 5

[@cikame]

As you alluded to i think because the game lacked an obvious hook people aren't interested in it, the hook in Doom 3 is obvious, it's dark and scary and even now there aren't many games like it, then Quake 4 comes along and is just a really solid enjoyable shooter and didn't stand out to people, besides that stroggification sequence :P. Another example, i got the game for christmas along with FEAR and COD2, everyone was talking about FEAR at the time it was really impressive and scary, i loved COD2 for its explosive fast paced WW2 action and awesome multiplayer, then there was Quake 4 which, at the time, i didn't really get on with. Fast forward i replayed it a few years ago and i love it, no one makes games like this anymore, in a world where COD and BF are pretty much the only shooters you're lucky if you even get a campaign in those, DOOM came and broke up the tedium a bit, but if you're looking for a single player shooter campaign to heal your soul Quake 4's got your back.

[@fearthepointman3134]

Nice! I just played this a couple of months ago. Great game and finally got a copy with the quake 2 bonus disc.

[@originalityisdead.9513]

I've never actually played this, I picked up the physical copy on PC for next to nothing not long ago. I might give it a go.

[@mrsnippysnoopa8300]

quake 4 is not a bad game. it got the doom 3 treatment.

[@bg8580]

I hope raven software will get to make their own game one day. Such a great studio.

[@Fleetwood369]

I always loved quake 4.

[@matsnilson7727]

I bought this used just for the included X360 port of Quake 2, but I'll probably play it eventually. Never had any interest in Quake 4 when it was released - I think I was still furious about Quake 3 not having a single player story (a fact that dawned on me AFTER buying and installing it) - but I think I'm finally somewhat calm now... 20years later.

[@QuantaStarfire]

I know this is an old video, but I just wanted to say that the thing that sours me on Quake 4 (which had good single player) is that it came out around a time when not only was the fast-paced, frenetic style of old-school deathmatching falling by the wayside, but multiplayer shooter games in general were shifting from dedicated servers and extensive modding and mapping support to company-run matchmaking servers and paid DLC maps. I feel like a Quake 4 with stellar multiplayer and a vibrant modding community would have made EA and Activision (among others) think twice before closing the walls around their big shooter franchises in favor of their current live service model.

[@hanchiman]

I am probably the few who loved this game, what I loved was the scripted scenes and brief NPC that make you feel like you are not alone. It took another 2 years before Call of Duty 4 turns up and improved scripted FPS and NPC genre. Although the game did drag on too long at some point

[@Jun-fm1kp]

This gives me Doom 3 vibes

[@graveelk5499]

i love to play this game from time to time

[@Rimasta1]

I played this at a friends house and I loved it. People hated this game? It was a gem.

[@El_Dr_Tacco]

Quake 4 was my first game on Xbox360 and i loved it. Now with quake 2 remake it makes quake 4 more consistent. It has aged to good for moderna days.

[@John_Raynor]

just one question ... Please links to Soundtrack in background :D

[@bryanoterodaza1870]

Thank you for making a video about Quake 4 I have been waiting someone to make a video like this I have been playing Doom 3 for a long time since my early childhood age by the way it was released on August 3, 2004 on the PC 1 year 2 months and 15 days later Quake 4 came out to PC on October 18, 2005 which its 14 months and 15 days or 441 days. This was the best video game I ever played since I was 10 years old since 4th Grade back in the year 2011. I heard about this back in the 2009 which it is the late 2000s when I was in 3rd Grade of Elementary School after turning 9 years old or New Year's Day 2010 When the decade 2000s was going to end the That video game came out on October 18, 2005 the day of my birthday when I turned 5 years old that day and I told my dad since it came out that year which I never heard about it I wanted to buy and play it that day back in those old days when video games were good nowadays there all expensive garbage and waste of money when Quake IV came out in 2005 was $20 US Dollars which they were good prices those days I still play video games from that year they were the best ones ever since I was in Pre-School time flies and escapes I rather invent a time machine and a time portal in the future to back to this year Music was good that year video games too! KZbin also came out which its 14 years old and it will turn 15 on February 14 2020 This is one of my favorite FPS video games ever still the best video game ever made in the whole world thanks a lot to ID Software and Raven Software for making this visoe game I love it a trillion!

[@zenmanalex7548]

This was my first Quake and man i was stunned by it , i love boomer shooters, but was born right during the modern age so i find this game a good mix of both elements