RTX 4070 vs RTX 4080 - DON’T Buy a 4070 Gaming Laptop!

[@JarrodsTech]

⚠ Don't miss out! Save money on your gaming laptop with our daily deals: gaminglaptop.deals 3:31 Meant to say the 4080 is more power efficient. It uses more power, but the FPS improvement is higher. The graph is correct, what I said is wrong.

[@typerightseesight]

gotta do halo infinite its so cpu intensive i wanna see how it does on a laptop.

[@Overthemountaim747]

Warhammer 3 would be a great addition to testing on laptops if possible, cheers.

[@chrisbullock6477]

I think this is all very understood. No different in saying a RTX 4090 is more powerful than a 4070 or 4080 and of course uses more power....

[@thehuman7274]

HELP MEEEEE!!! i have legion y530 after reinstall windows when i plugged monitor in to hdmi intel graphics still work (1-2% 3D) it wasn't like that before, when i plugged in to hdmi cpu 3d shows 0% and gtx1050ti took over all the work, whats the matter (all drivers are fresh)

[@JarrodsTech]

@@typerightseesight That game is in the video.

[@antalpoti]

Jarrod and everyone else: "just buy a 4080 instead of a 4070". Me: "sure blud, lemme pull another 1500€ out of my arsehole"

[@lmaoded4854]

better buy a 3070ti and save money if you don't care about frame generation

[@antalpoti]

@@lmaoded4854 same price as the 4070. I'm not saving a cent.

[@XieRH1988]

the smart thing to do is not buy now but wait for the next generation, so that the previous gen becomes cheaper

[@lmaoded4854]

@@antalpoti you sure about that? cuz in my country 3070ti is way cheaper than 4070

[@JarrodsTech]

I mean, I demonstrated some cases in the video where it's only $200 more, you can't say it's not worth it then :) of course this will not apply everywhere around the world, and will vary based on pricing in your region, but you get the point.

[@istbu12]

don't buy 4050 okay ı will buy 4060, don't buy 4060 okay ı will 4070, don't buy 4070 okay ı will 4080, dont buy 4080...

[@Momentoman]

Click bate

[@Fleepwn]

4070 to 4080 leap seems to be the biggest one. I am not an expert, but based on research I've done lately, 4060 and 4080 absolutely seem to be the best value right now depending on your budget.

[@Zeeboklown]

I got the rtx 4080 laptop gpu (lenova legion 9 pro) and the 4070 laptop chip (in a asus zephyrus m16). But, I only have 16g of ram in the asus, and 64g in the legion, so it's hard to compare no matter what, but the fps drops are so much less on the legion. lol.

[@thraxberserker9960]

@@FleepwnGoofy comparison, you’re going from $1500 range to over $2000 if not $2500

[@RaneKunLovesNightcore]

Fr 😭

[@DarkPanda1]

Me who was thinking to buy 4050 Him: 4060 Is worth spending extra Me: okay then let's go for 4060 Him: 4070 is more superior Me: okay we have come to far let's get 4070 Him: 4080 is much better Me: 😢 Him: I think you should go for 4090 for extra fps Me: bruh ☠️

[@tonygreen42]

In conclusion. 4060 20% better than 4050, 4070 20% better than 4060 , 4080 50-60% better than 4070 and 4090 is 10% better than 4080, so we have 2 leagues 506070 and 8090 , in my opinion 4080 is the best value

[@paolodangelo2981]

It's important to have a good cooling, else performance stay only on the paper.

[@dieaking6475]

​@@paolodangelo2981 nah i would say opt for the i9 processor next to the gpu makes 40 to 60fps run like butter. Yes low frames and still smooth image

[@tommypearson9260]

@@tonygreen42 I don't know man i got a cooling pad for my G5 13620h and 4060-75w with 64gb DDR5-5600 I stay boosted to 2445mhz and it stays about 65-70c on demanding games even though it's 1080p i find it pretty decent and not that far behind a 4070 tbh

[@danielm.595]

​@@tommypearson9260What is your cooling pad's brand?

[@xalex7923]

The difference in Spain is 4070 for 1500€ and 4080 for 2100€. I think ill stay with the 4070 laptop

[@valrond]

Now it's even bigger, you can get 4070 for 1200€, 4080 is still at 2100€. I think it's better to get a 4060, and then geforce now 4080 premium for the heavier games.

[@michaltakac682]

​​@@valrondI'm buying one with RTX4070 cause i can get it for around 900€ brand new with 32gb ddr5 and with an i9 14900HXon the other hand if i would go for RTX4080 it will cost me around 2800€ thats triple of the price so nah for 50% fps increase it's not worth the price it's bs in my case

[@althiln]

​@@michaltakac682its better to get highest CPU and buy dock station for GPU via thunderbolt connection. And get after 4080 super. This video card can survive 2 generations of laptops, so you will update every 5-6 years your videocard.

[@PriyanshGupta2906]

@@michaltakac682 What laptop is it mate? I'm looking for a same spec one in the UK with a QHD+ display which goes around 1880 GBP or 2,228.55 EUR.

[@ZeroEight]

I absolutely love the Power Scaling graph you did, I wish all the reviewers provided this information. I would love to see this graph for the Asus G14 - 4070, 4080 and 4090 variants

[@denshaSai]

Yeah g14 at 125w would be great comparison. His graph did show the gap at 125w as a reference

[@dieaking6475]

​@@denshaSaiI have 4070 140w

[@pedro4205]

At this moment, in BestBuy, the cheapest 4080 is costs 800US$ more than the cheapest 4070.

[@guhbe385]

Yeah 4070s on sale are dropping big where 4080s are not probably because of the big difference.

[@JarrodsTech]

Definitely wasn't the case when I got the screenshots 1-2 weeks ago for the pricing part of the video, so it definitely changes, check our deals site for sales (link in description)

[@kylerclarke2689]

In Canada, the cheapest 4070 is $1700. The cheapest 4080 is $2900. Not exactly chump change.

[@granthancock1944]

Yeah it’s so drastically different it makes the 4070 performance look like a bargain.

[@pedro4205]

@@granthancock1944 If the 3070/ti hadn't "vanished" it would be a better deal also

[@B-max.]

this conclusion of "just buy the more expensive model bro" is exactly why 'Ngreedia' created such a difference in performance between these cards. As consumers, you are being played.

[@OkaySoShit]

Agreed

[@leafbelly]

Being played because you get what you pay for? Mkay

[@tonygreen42]

In conclusion. 4060 20% better than 4050, 4070 20% better than 4060 , 4080 50-60% better than 4070 and 4090 is 10% better than 4080, so we have 2 leagues 506070 and 8090 , in my opinion 4080 is the best value

[@paradoxine6287]

all my fellas hate jason huang

[@rkiwtir1146]

Sure the performance difference is large but the price is also large (Atleast in regions where i can buy it from) Usually it is around 400-600$ difference and then again you're not just looking at the GPU on paper when buying it. The TGP varies by models , plus the screen, cooling, battery life, upgradability all matter of the laptop all matter.

[@Dampfheini]

I just paid 2300 EUR for an I7 13700H and RTX 4080 Laptop and it is amazing. A year ago I paid 1400 Eur for an I7 11800H plus RTX 3060 (95W) laptop which has about one-third the performance but more than half the price. This is in germany. So I do not know what you mean with expensive. Ppl pay way more for their rims here which is just stupid

[@OkaySoShit]

​@@Dampfheinihi

[@bobvance-]

Rims are sexy. You must not be a car guy.@@Dampfheini

[@dsrxride]

@@Dampfheinilass leute doch schöne felgen kaufen 😂 btw welchen laptop hast du?

[@Jonathan-bi8hr]

The voltage limit is an incredibly disingenuous move on nVidia’s part. If they advertised these cards as up to 100w, that would be fine as a marketing tool for efficiency. Instead, they get to advertise more power, more better, without actually delivering on performance

[@MegaMan01]

Yes, and it clearly holds back the 4070 immensely. It's fine to restrict voltage on battery power, but not when it's plugged in. Anyhow, I won't be suckered into buying a more expensive 4080 or any other 4000 series GPU for that matter.

[@tenderandmoist5011]

@@MegaMan01yeah just get last gen at this point, 40 series is massively overpriced and is coming out left and right with false advertising and anti-consumer designs. The least controversal one so far is probably the 4060

[@hemendraravi4787]

is it possible for them to remove this limiter in a future update for nvidia driver ?

[@RyouConcord]

@@MegaMan01 yep yep. it's been difficult to recommend any gaming laptops this generation because of how confusing the names have gotten in relation to the performance you'll ACTUALLY see. I've been recommending last-gen laptops because I know more accurately what sort of performance to expect.

[@aeriagloris4211]

​@@RyouConcordcan you give me some laptop or laptop card recommendations?

[@KevinLeahy-t7n]

As always it just depends on price. If the price difference between a 4070 and 4080 is like 300 even 400 hundred dollars than by all means get a 4080. But right now you can get deals on 4070 laptops that make the price difference more like &700-$900. A Legion with 4070 can be had for like 1600-1700 right now, a 4080 version comes in 2500+. That's a gap in price that is actually bigger than the gap in relative GPU performance, as long as you are fine gaming at 1440p/1600p which these GPU's seem perfectly capable of handling.

[@Cowboy.J]

In Canada, the Legion 7i with a 4080 is going to be about $1,300 more than a Legion 5i with a 4070. Insane price difference, no reason to go for the 4080.

[@nonpondo_]

That's where I'm at rn, I have no idea what the hell to do, it all seems so fucking bad

[@sanizor]

​@nonpondo_ What you did? I'm exact same situation right now haha

[@yogicentralyt]

@sanizor What did you do? I am also in the same situation 😅

[@sanizor]

@yogicentralyt Well I missed the Black Friday offer but if I would had bought 4080 because it's more future proof. 8GB of VRAM will not be enough in few years. I will personally just wait till 5000 series will arrive and buy new laptop then because current one is running semi-fine.

[@yogicentralyt]

@@sanizor should I do the same even though my current one is low end? Cant play any modern aaa games (2017 onwards basically with exception of few). I don't really have a job so relying on parents money. But i am planning on getting a job over summer (idk if i can handle Job and uni...). Guess I should wait one more year and save up for 5000 series, because my dad def aint getting me a 4080 one lol.

[@alexbraundelacruz9690]

I do agree with that statement, but I also think the 4070 has its place in thin and lights. The efficiency of this card is amazing laptops like the x13 and z13 are great examples of that

[@JarrodsTech]

I agree

[@diegobrava]

The 4070 is SO cold. i usualy get 70c in performance mode (Lenovo Legion 5i Pro)

[@commandopml5695]

@@diegobravaIntel or AMD cpu? I'm also thinking to buy 5i Pro with i9 and 4070 so is the laptop a good package overall?

[@FluffScripts]

@@diegobrava weird, on 3070ti legion 5 pro with AMD, I get 90C 💀

[@ctsperformance1755]

4070 is made purposefully bad by NVIDIA, the gap is made artificially HUGE, so the gamers will choose the pricier option. Also there is literally no performance gain between 3070 and 4070 which is laughable :D

[@KeiGGR]

No difference between 3070 and 4070? Then that means I can keep my 3070 laptop for a little longer!

[@TabalugaDragon]

there is 10-15% performance gain, but it's still tiny considering that Lovelace is overall much more energy efficient, even without Frame Generation. They cut the 4070m artificially because it's a popular GPU class, so they can get maximum profit with minimal expenses on manufacturing. In short - a scam.

[@sarthak-ti]

The 4070 is more akin to the 3070ti. But it’s still not great by any metric. The main use I’ve seen of it is power efficiency in thinner laptops but even then it’s not amazing. The only main benefit over the 3070ti is frame gen, but that’s only for the 15 games that support it

[@mobgamerred8555]

@@sarthak-ti and for the ones that are to be released in near future as well

[@keitatsutsumi]

I think you mean the 3070 ti, there’s actually a fair bit of performance improvement from the 3070

[@hoanghanguyenvinh8476]

Haha, i already pulled the trigger on the 4070. It is largely the same as the 3070ti last year. Coming from a 80w 3060 it was very nice. In my country, the 4070 is around 70%- 50% the cost of a 4080 laptop. Sure it can perform x1.5 better, but at nearly 2x the price, i would pause at the thought. The only thing i miss with the 4070 would be 12gb vram, 8 is not really enough in some less optimized game. Also, the chassis that come with 4070 (legion 7i in my case) is a lot nicer than the cheap Gigabyte G5 that was my old laptop. I really appreciate the sound and visual quality improvement that come with the change. Price to performance stop matter when you cross certain threshold that is outside your budget. I would suggest Jarrod make some vids on laptops that are good for their price range, i think that would be for the best. A laptop that could reach 20 usd per frame would not be exactly exciting to an average person if it cost 5k usd to purchase for example. That is a lot of money. I would recommend that if you come from anything 3060 and up, don't. But if you come from 3050 and below, it does make a large change, esp since 4070 chassis are usually higher end model that have some nice features that come along if the budget allow it.

[@ecru_dlh8327]

Looking for a upgrade too my g14 2021 but with a price of between £2,600-3k for a 4080 I think ill sit this gen out

[@manuelmunguia616]

you upgraded from the 3060ti to this 4070? oh brother....

[@hoanghanguyenvinh8476]

@@manuelmunguia616 no, from a laptop 3060 80w to 4070 laptop. The gain is large for me, since it has better speaker , wifi and screen. 3060ti doesnt exist on laptop.

[@siyzerix]

Wait, so why not buy 3070ti laptop? Even the budget models like the nitro 5 pack top tier displays (1440p 165hz 100% srgb panel with at least 300 to 330nit brightness), USB-C charging, pretty decent speakers, good keyboard, great upgradability (more than the legions even), etc. Infact, my 3070ti laptop costed me half as much as a 4070 one in my place. And I was coming from a 1650 + 4600h ideapad 3 gaming laptop. Also, as you move up the tiers the scamminess of gaming laptops start to increase. For example, compare lovelace's gains to pascal's 1070. The gtx 1070 outright doubled the 970m's performance if even more than doubled it. It almost trippled vram and all that for 15% more power draw and kept largely the same price. THAT is a generational leap, not this pathetic rtx 4080's improvement over the rtx 3070ti (yes, the 4080 is really the 4070ti of laptops and the 3070ti is the real rtx 3070m as its the same desktop 3070 chip). Infact, it really should've packed 16gb of vram for its asking price. And the current rtx 4090 simply has too low of a power draw. It should be around 230w and thats entirely possible considering 3 years ago we had 200w laptop GPU's.

[@kunalbhat4570]

@@siyzerix hahahahhaah brother i have the same one. i got it for 1340 usd what about you

[@Pividol]

You've played right into their hands. The entire purpose of the lower skus is to upsale for the 4080 and 4090

[@sierra5065]

When pointing out how bad of a value the 4070m is you should also include the 4060m. Its ~10% slower but more than 10% cheaper and has the same 8gb vram.

[@exserentia]

Great review. Would add a caveat -- I think the mfgs realize they aren't selling so managed to get a 4070 legion that I paid 4060 prices for (~1350$ w. 7745hx). 4080 capable laptops seem to be outside my price range and would set me back quite a bit more.

[@DiegoAlejandroVargasPaloma]

Your analysis and comparisons as always so thorough and accurate; so helpful to get the full picture. Thank you.

[@shinobishaw7542]

Unfortunately the "just spend more for 4080" didnt reach the box retailers ears. I'm seeing on average a $500-$700 price difference from 4070 to 4080. Also the laptops that come with 4k screens pushes the price to the $3200-$3500 range. You can get a 4070 i9 (H) for under $2400 from most places. Also for me I prefer thin and light laptops.

[@VeeTwoPointOh]

Got one for 18!

[@victorxdavid]

In my country it was a 40 dollar increase in price switching from 4060 to 4070 in the configuration so i think it depends on the deal aswell. But the jump to a 4080 would be a few hundred dollars

[@GewelReal]

I'd save 40$ and get a 2TB SSD

[@aryanreddy7346]

@@GewelReal huh just spend 40$ more its not much when you already spend that much for a 4060

[@4hedron852]

That's the only reason to go for the 4070 lol. 100 or less difference in value. 10% increase in perf if not less.

[@GewelReal]

@@aryanreddy7346 then get 4TB SSD

[@jonasaung6924]

You can't upgrade to 4070 after purchase.. 40 bucks for 4070 from 4060 is just worth it regardless

[@Shashank_Naidu]

Just bought a i9 13900HX with RTX 4070 and I am extremely happy with the purchase. The performance boost with 4080 doesn't justify it's price by any means. In India the difference for the same configuration with RTX 4080 costs around $900 more which is not justified at all. Budget is a thing and it can never end if you keep stretching your means. If 4080 then why not go for 4090, one might also ask? I played Microsoft Flight Sim on the RTX 4070 and it is absolutely a beast in all aspects of gaming and productivity. The i9 13900HX processor and 4070 graphics card are a deadly duo. More than sufficient in all aspects.

[@GatoCurioso-01]

Thanks for sharing, in my case the money difference is not that much as the 900usd that you mentioned between RTX4070 and 4080. I would greatly appreciate your opinion please, I don't know which option to choose for work. I am debating between: Alienware M18 (18" 480hz screen + i9 13900HX + 32GB Ram + RTX 4080 + 1TB NVMe SSD) Vs. Lenovo Legion PRO 7 (16" 240hz screen + i9 13900HX + 64GB Ram + RTX 4070 + 1TB NVMe SSD + 2TB NVMe SSD + ). For the same price for both (about USD$2,000), which one would you select for content creation and especially video editing, rendering, etc.? Starting from the fact that I currently work on content creation and video editing from an HP (15" screen + i7-7500U + 16gb ram + 1gb AMD Radeon + 1TB M.2 SSD) and it lags when I'm editing videos, when It starts to export, it gets quite hot and I practically have to leave it alone in that activity so as not to force it... Thanks in advance!

[@gadielcomas8012]

@@GatoCurioso-01 Legion Pro 7 has better specs and I don't know about Alienware software but Lenovo software is absolutely amazing and you can personalize almost every aspect of the laptop, it's important cause if you have temperature problems you can undervolt it. Since you create content more ram is better but you should investigate about display quality ( coverage of SRGB %, DCIP3 %, Adobe %, etc) also 18" is more visible to work but less portability, so if you use to move with the laptop frequently 16" is better. PD: English isn't my first language, so sorry if something is wrong. If you have something else to ask I have no problem answering.

[@silentspatter6839]

I honestly think you should go with Alienware, I can now say that with confidence and I will tell you why. No matter what specs you are looking into any "gaming" rig released in the last few years is almost guaranteed to run any AAA game properly and will most likely remain that way for 3-5 years depending on selection. However you could have parts or technical issues in that time frame that most companies make you jump through hoops to deal with. Except apparently Alienware, they are such a massive company they can offer remote and on site tech support, parts and accidental damage replacements, etc. I forgot the channel but a reviewer on gaming laptops talks about this subject in depth. If you go through Dell you can get the premium support sub for like 20-25$ a month which offers it all upon purchase of a gaming rig. Any other company you will probably be mailing away your laptop and waiting possibly weeks before you see it again. When spending thousands on a gaming laptop you want the best, fastest, and most affordable and convenient solution to any problems that may occur. For me half the reason for not wanting to spend big bucks on a new gaming laptop was a lack of options when it came to possible technical issues and fast affordable solutions. It would seem only Alienware offers that, I'm about to get the M18 4070 right now as we speak with the premium sub. Games will run great and they will look good doing it, some people are hard core performance snobs when it comes to small percentages of an increase here or there, personally I am more concerned with quality assurance.

[@MTN1601]

Rtx 4070 is barely better than 4060 while 4060 is much cheaper, also only 8gb vram Also 4060 is not much better than 4050 but many people still prefer rtx 4060 because of more vram

[@ayusoraua570]

yea for entry GPU better choice 4060 and for mid go 4080

[@d1kgaws12]

@@ayusoraua570 4080 should NOT be considered “mid tier" due to the high price.

[@ayusoraua570]

@@d1kgaws12 nah if you want high end 4000 series just buy 4090 because the gap between 4090 and 3090 is fcking huge. dont bother buying below 90 series lol

[@darthmortem585]

​@@ayusoraua570Rtx 3090 laptop GPU doesn't exist 💀

[@d1kgaws12]

@@ayusoraua570 Assuming you misunderstood my reply, I was trying to say that because of the 4080's price, we shouldn't be calling that "mid tier". It's priced as a high end card. Also there's no 3090 laptop gpu.

[@panathaninf]

Still... spending 50% more for a laptop to go from 4070 to 4080 is a NO NO

[@jesso2k6]

4060 for less than half the price of the cheapest 4080 I found is the direction I went. More power to you if it's your main gaming rig

[@betruly7894]

I disagree with you Jarrod. And really thanks for the effort in the video great job and very informative. The gap between Laptop 4070 and 4080 is huge now Jan/2024. it is around 1000 to +1500, it make the 4080 not an affordable choice even considering the future proof. a rich one will go for the best, but an average person like me will have a tight limited budged. The RTX 4070 is an excellent choice for whom looking for best performance/price laptop. MSI b12 or b13 is one to consider !!!

[@William1115]

Unfortunatelly in Czech Rep. cheapest 4080 variant is 2800+ $

[@JarrodsTech]

Yeah probably not worth it then.

[@vijaykumarvc66]

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[@vijaykumarvc66]

​@@JarrodsTech By the Way I Love The Tech Content Of Your Channel Lot's of ❤ From India

[@ryujim-vo6lq]

crazy ass price

[@zyzzin6950]

In Norway also. Why so expensive? You could buy a car for that price 🤣🤣

[@ElBandito_Gaming]

Hi Jarrod, from that video where you showed that above 100 W all 4060-70 perform the same (capped fps above 100w), I am looking ONLY at 4080 laptops. There is no point getting somethinng above 100W 4060. Thanks again!

[@henryviiifake8244]

Sadly, the 4080 laptops I was looking for were more than I was willing to spend. Luckily, at least these days, you can get some decent 4070 options on sale, which brings those $/frame numbers back in line.

[@gsst6389]

How much where you willing to spend then? My limit atm its 3000$ what about yours?

[@safinman]

@@gsst6389bro get a 4090 for $2600, lenovo legion pro 7i

[@OkaySoShit]

​@@gsst6389lol

[@HazardWolfCorp]

@@gsst6389 if you look around you can even snag a 4090 laptop at 3k, maaaaaybe a few hundred more but its like, if you are already dropping 3 grand whats a few hundred more for max performance for years to come.

[@gydeme]

The reason this comparison doesn't work is that a 4080 is almost always $700 more and is usually featured in totally different laptop bodies. We are talking about much thicker machines. For laptops, portability is king even more so than power. So if you have a 100W 4070 laptop you are likely in a significantly better laptop sweet spot than 4080 laptops for price, power, portability, and battery. I love a chonky powerful laptop as much as the next tech nerd on youtube, but I also recognize the slimmer, more usable machine is a better consumer option

[@Lukashoffmann94]

Different laptop chassis? Pretty much every 4070 laptop, that I know of, can also be found with a 4080 variant. The price is retarded though. An upgrade cost of more than a full desktop 4070ti, which uses the same chip as the laptop 4080, is just scalping. Feels like the oems all signed contracts at the height of the mining boom and now just pass those prices on to their customers.

[@Keevsnick]

@@Lukashoffmann94 Yes! This! You could ALMOST build a whole gaming PC with a 4070 desktop GPU, roughly equivalent to the 4080 laptop GPU, just for the price difference between a 4070 and 4080 laptop. Its insane. There's no middle ground.

[@diegobrava]

@@Keevsnick i agree. Better have a 4070 laptop + 4070ti Desktop than a 4080 laptop.

[@TK-ui2jg]

I bought the 4070 legion slim 7 a couple weeks ago for $1525 before tax. It’s a beast and a 4080 would be too hot in the thin laptop

[@thewinner4x873]

It would just as hot if not cooler due to the same power limit and larger die

[@alanliang9538]

thats kinda overpriced. 4070 laptop in china be selling like 880 USD. so they litterally marked up 700 dollars on you lol

[@churchofsatan2041]

You made a bad choice, stop trying to convince yourself otherwise.

[@myjumpik]

​@@alanliang9538China man, not everyone willing to buy it from there and ship it. Too much hustle. Local shops are the easiest to buy from.

[@darthmortem585]

​@@alanliang9538it's a thin laptop with a GPU in it, no shit it costs more, rnd moment

[@sa1dzhan]

I've bought myself asus zephyrus m16 with rtx 4070 for $1600. I find this purchase a great deal for 2 primary reasons. 1) It was a huge upgrade from my old gtx 1060 6gb laptop that served me well for long 6 years(btw still performs great in not heavy games). 2) And I could not push my budget any further to afford rtx 4080. They are too damn expensive. Therefore, I have no regrets on this regard.

[@marnix9800]

I bought a Lenovo Legion Slim also with a RTX4070 card. the 4080 was €600 more and since I am not a hardcore gamer I don't think it was worth paying that amount.

[@ryans3795]

I just got an 4070 laptop (not recieved yet) becuase I got a 600 dollar sale discount which put the 4080 at over 1000 difference. I currently have an old 970m with 3 gb vram and and a 4 core processor. The 970m is now a 1080 low graphics laptop. Gpu difference is like a 350% increase and cpu is 10% better than my desktop 5800x. This laptop will last me like 4 generations hopefully (maybe more with dlss3)

[@sa1dzhan]

@@ryans3795 good for you. I think rtx 4070 laptops will serve good for at least 4 years. May be sometimes you will have to twitch the graphic settings or just go down to 1080p to play on ultra, but anyways you will get great gaming experience overall. Happy gaming!

[@TishSerg]

@@ryans3795 * me looking at my GT 740M * * cries in pepe *

[@Legitti]

Got myself Legion Pro 7i with RTX 4080, coming from same GTX 1060 and it's great

[@ramabg2]

That 12GB VRAM is further future proofing 4080. Thank you for the insight.

[@patricklecrane9546]

yes! im playing on 2k with my 4080 laptop, and its a beast for the next years

[@henrikg1388]

I could've written this comment on so many channels, but here it is. About two years ago I bought my current laptop with an RTX 3080 16GB, and argued that the amount of VRAM was the best single future proofing feature. Everybody laughed, but I have been proven to be right. I can still run heavy RT titles with low effort, at least on 1440p. The laptop 4070 still will not beat me. Believe me. Frame Gen is just a cheating feature that causes unnecessary lag. I will sit this gen out and maybe even the next. I run almost every title at QHD with RT, problem free, and even some on 4K after some initial stutter. Why the f*ck would I want anything below 4080, and even that is too bloody expensive with less VRAM. That is the reality of (laptop) GPUs today. No progression, but with a huge price hike.

[@GodRishUniverse]

But like if a 4070 is like 1500 usd or 1700 usd max then it may be better in terms of cost per frame.

[@tonydwietwarze]

But it's not at all future proof compared to 12gigs in a 4080.... The Vram is the issue

[@Morhamms357]

Here's the thing you failed to take into consideration with the review: Price ranges. NOT the price difference, (although it's slightly skewed as eg. $200 is 20% of $1,000, but 10% of $2,000) the price RANGE. Your percentages are 110% correct, but the base prices of said laptops are not affordable at all. All the examples you showed were about $2,000 for the 4070 version, which is an absolute gyp. If you have that kind of money to spend, go for the 4080. However, the reality is you can find 4070 laptops at low prices. At least in comparison. Normally, the MSRP hovers around ~$1,500, with it going as low as $1,190 during a sale. However, you will almost *never* find a good 4080 laptop that isn't below $1,500. At the end of they day, you'd be lucky to find a 4070 at a low price, but it's not impossible, and if you find one, that's a good deal. The 4080 comes with an awesome increase in potential and power, but a similarly substantial increase in price... For people with the money to spend to get a 4080 laptop, the video comparing it to the 4090 is much more relevant.

[@donxx1206]

I found a 4070 laptop for 1200 so yeah

[@Morhamms357]

@@donxx1206 Nice. What model was it?

[@donxx1206]

@@Morhamms357 the Msi katana 15

[@thomassleziak1222]

Wow, what a difference from the last generation, I personally have 130w 3070 and I am more than happy, because the difference between 3070 and 3080 was quite little and not worth the money. I didn’t expect this.

[@siyzerix]

Wait till you compare lovelace's gains to pascal's gains. Pascal outright doubled performance over maxwell at every tier except the xx50 class tier. And even that was a 45 to 55% boost to performance. The gtx 1070 nearly trippled the 970m's 3gb vram and doubled its performance all for slightly more energy use. The 150w rtx 2070 super was a nice 40% improvement over the 1070 for mostly similar prices.

[@GewelReal]

​@@siyzerixAda increased margins why whopping 100% this gen! Imlressive!

[@thomassleziak1222]

@@siyzerix Got you, good to know, thanks for the info :D I wasn’t interested in graphic cards back then. I meant difference between 70 and 80 series tho, should have written in better :D

[@siyzerix]

@@GewelReal Now Jensen can finally buy his dream leather jacket. Yay!

[@siyzerix]

@@thomassleziak1222 Well, the 4080 is barely 60% faster than a pathetic 4070 (which lets be real is really a 4060). The gtx 1070 was also 60% faster than the gtx 980m when it came out AND used the same amount of power at that. So either way lovelace is a fail on the low to midrange in terms of performance improvement. And even at the high end, its performance improvements pale in comparison to pascal. Just for reference, during pascal we had SLI 1070 and 1080 laptops. So you can imagine the mockery they made out of maxwell's mobile GPU's.

[@dark346kv]

Title. Don't buy a 4070. Me having bought a 4070 3 hours ago

[@tumblevid]

Lol...4070 is a great GPU..tbh..

[@feraldrgn]

The 4080M might blow the 4070M away in performance, but it's not as if you'll get bad performance from the latter (especially if you undervolt). I think if you want decent performance but want to save a bit on the laptop cost (a same spec laptop with a 4080M instead of a 4070M is £700 more expensive from a store near me) as well as your electricity bill, the 4070M is good enough comparatively: 4070M: 115 Watt (35 - 115 Watt TGP), 4080M: 150 Watt (60 - 150 Watt TGP)

[@fastcheetah9281]

As a person who is buying a new gaming computer where the budget is 2000 USD, I could never.

[@BlueWorld93]

*Forza Horizon 5 does use more than 8GB of Vram @4K Extreme (even @ Ultra). Have had massive issues with my old 3070 at this resolution... until I dropped the settings (esp. textures) a bit.

[@JarrodsTech]

Indeed, which is why I featured it.

[@vijaykumarvc66]

​@@JarrodsTech ​​Acer Predator Helios 16 Gaming Laptop 13th Gen Intel Core i9 (Windows 11 Home/16 GB RAM/1 TB SSD/NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 4070) PH16-71 Please Review This Laptop ASAP Most of them wanted to buy it coz it's rivalry is with Lenovo Legion Laptops

[@vijaykumarvc66]

​@@JarrodsTech lot's Of ❤ From India Brother love your Tech Videos😅

[@Mushroom_AU]

I have a question I bought an MSI 16" 144Hz, Core i9 12900H, RTX 4080 12GB, 16GB DDR5 RAM 4800-Mhz, 1TB SSD, 1080p Camera and Thunderbolt 10G 6E WiFi for 1.9k USD, is it a good deal?

[@dudeeebackout6279]

What laptop are you using for the 4070 representation? Feel like some of those benchmark results are very very low. I have a 4070 Lenovo Legion 5I Pro and on Metro Exodus Enhanced ultra everything 1440P 144hz I get at least 70-90FPS at all times

[@zyzzin6950]

Yeah I agree! I have Legion 5 slim with RTX 4070 / Ryzen 7840HS. I get also around 70-90 fps on most games on 1440p 165 hz

[@01HAH371]

Same here i9-13900hx and 4070 legion 5i pro In 2k ultra most games 70-90 with lenovo legion performance mode on But i think here in the video showing actual capabilities of the laptop without dlss and fg i mean But still the manufacturer of the laptop plays a big role which lenovo legion brand is a very good one indeed

[@_Valkohl_]

I would love to buy a RTX 4080 laptop. But they all cost over $3,000 AUD. And my RTX 4070 Laptop was only $1,700 AUD on sale and it came with a 165hz 1440p display. So its easier to just say things than it is to do things.

[@frieza1016]

het Jarrod, are there plans to review the framework laptop 16 by any chances ? (wouldn't be suprised if the awnser was no, since its quite an expensive AF laptop)

[@cameronbosch1213]

He said he would _only_ if Framework sends one over for review. And it seems like they will.

[@frieza1016]

@@cameronbosch1213 did I miss the video where he said that, or the info was release to only some people?

[@kny1701]

didnt you release a review recently saying your favorite laptop was a legion 7i with a 4070

[@bisnavanaxi]

Yeah why ??? We need clarification on this. Why is your favorite is 4070 laptop

[@gridvid]

The only reason to get the 4080 is the 4 gig memory

[@henrytuttle]

As of 4 months after this video, there's a 4070 laptop (HP Victus) at costco for $999. I can't find ANY 4080s for less than $2000 (closer to mid $2000s). There are probably other differences, but I can't afford $2000 anyway.

[@aadharbagale8022]

Legion 7 pro almost maxed out 4080 was for like 1900 You add rakuten rebate and student discount ,price was around 1450

[@Alleged_Mercenary]

They are when the 4070 is $1080 and the 4080 is $3000.

[@Xen0gears515]

To summarize, the 4070 is just a re-branded 3070 ti but with better efficiency. And 4080 is the true next gen gpu.

[@viliambena6767]

Me playing on rtx 2060 4k with DLSS quality 😂 god of war had 50 to 60 FPS with original settings

[@VegitoBlackityBlack]

Ok

[@lil_brumski]

Lol

[@Fender178]

Depending on what games you play the RTX 4070 Laptop isn't worth it due to the 8GB of vRAM that it has vs a 4080 Laptop.

[@pedroalbuquerquebs]

Other than DLSS3 my 3070 Ti is basically the same as the 4070. This year is pretty underwhelming GPU-size, since you need to bump one tier (70 to 80) to get considerably better performance. Only the CPUs got a nice improvement, but partially thanks to "raw power" since last year "H" CPUs were prevalent (the Alder Lake "HX" CPUs did not see widespread use). This year both Intel and AMD decided to just release slightly power limited Desktop CPUs and their top tier Mobile offering.

[@Risa222]

The only advantage in 4070 is AV1 enconder, which is irrelevant if you don´t work with videos or stream.

[@stefdezy1562]

Have you actually tested them against one another? In all of my testing, the 4070 beat the 3070ti by ~10%+ *before* frame-gen. The gap has seemingly only gotten wider with driver updates too. With DLSS3, of course, the results are incomparable altogether. Regardless, the generational gap *should* have been larger, but I suppose a premium is to be paid for innovation. Dev’s very well may eventually begin to rely on technologies such as frame-gen for more and more graphically demanding titles in the future (perhaps a few series’ down the line), when games become near-impossible to run through traditional means. By that time, such technology will no doubt be heavily developed and matured into a state that it wouldn’t make much sense *not* to use it. However, for the time being, I suppose said premium is to be paid for the possibility of future innovation, which kinda sucks. Again, the generational leap should have been larger, regardless.

[@SegaFan-dm9ch]

that's surely not true because all independ benchmarks show that the 4070 is much better...Sorry

[@stizzywitdaglizzy9301]

Unfortunately, no. The 4070 is still 5-15% faster on average than a 3070ti in pure rasterized-performance. However, to be fair, that *is* quite close considering the generational gap, relatively speaking (before frame-gen, at least).

[@Smart_boy2001]

Why your laptops benchmarks always XMG

[@shirokuro73]

I got the 4070 Asus Zephyrus G14 and I'm honestly quite happy with it. I got it for a good price. It would have been another $750 to move up to the 4080 and while I seriously considered it, that's a big difference. So far, it runs everything I want pretty well.

[@bean_ctm724]

What do you play

[@railgun1935]

Even the 3070ti Or a 4060 would run almost. Similarly.

[@shirokuro73]

@@railgun1935 yes probably. I was intending to get the 4060 TBH but then best buy did a discount on the 4070, I got it for I think $100 more than the 4060, at that price I figured why not get the extra little bump.

[@railgun1935]

@@shirokuro73 would have done the same..

[@mr.poteitou]

​@@railgun1935still 100 its not a big deal bruh

[@saif3r]

I just bought Aorus 2023 with 4070. 4080 is around 1.2k$ more with Aorus 2022. I was fighting with myself to see it it's worth it and decided to go with redesigned Aorus with weaker GPU. I watched tons of your videos and the one about redesigned aorus helped me make this decision. Also, sick t-shirt as usual. I'm listening to Anno 1696 atm, loving the album so far.

[@pavsofficial4284]

I was close to buying a laptop, but then got a desktop. For gaming laptops in general are more expensive and thier gpu cards are not max TGP 💀. You can get better performance for cheaper with a desktop pc

[@lil_brumski]

We don't care.

[@d1kgaws12]

Nvidia really wants us consumers to shoot for the 4080. We can resist by skipping this generation and waiting until Nvidia doesn’t butcher the consumer grade products, thinking the broke will buy the top tier cards. Make them offer better bang for the buck in consumer grade products. Don’t let them get away with trying to hypnotize the consumers who can’t eat for a year if they get a 4080 laptop shoot for it anyways. Teach them to NOT give the most expensive cards the best bang for your buck, because the people who buy the top tier cards do NOT care, and the consumers buying 50-70 series cards DO. Make them AT LEAST make a 4070 Ti that’s similarly priced to the 4070 but performs MUCH closer to the 4080 (but not too much closer), and price the 4070 like a 4060, the 4060 like a 4050, etc because that’s what these cards are. Not everyone goes crazy with AI. I prefer not needing all that AI to get good gains.

[@darshitgohel6485]

Jarrod fell into sales tricks by Nvidia 😂 offcourse they won't let 4070 perform because no one bought 3080/90s last year, now they're just tricking us, giving 4060 an 8gb vram, same as 4070, and the next option is +4gb, and plus 100ss of dollars.

[@Lannu-cw7dm]

After this video i canceled my alienware x16 4070 order and upgraded to 4080 😂😅❤ thank you for all hard work, excellent video.

[@kimnorberg9783]

Here in Europe cheapest model～1400 euro vs 2300, I would still consider a 4070 or 4060 laptop

[@rodrimora]

A Lenovo legion 5 doesn’t even have the option of a 4080 in Spain neither does the legion 7

[@OkaySoShit]

I already

[@keitatsutsumi]

I already bought the Legion pro 5 4070 because it was one sale, it’s still going to be a nice upgrade over my 1060 3gb… 😂😂

[@marius2361]

Which is the 4070 though? Because I can say that the 4080 is a 4070 and the 4070 is a 4060. In any case, one would be more powerful, 50% more Vram but insanely highly priced. The other one is downgraded it is not even worth looking at it, especially with that voltage limit

[@gemik]

Damn you European prices ! And yeah i realized a couple weeks back that the 4070 was just not cutting it, i get about the same timespy with my asus rog strix G15 advantage edition with the 5900hx + 6800m combo and new ram (2021 laptop) While some 4080 laptop run as good as my 7600x/4070ti ddr5 desktop. Nice

[@gemik]

Also the MSRP difference and the cost per frame difference is usually not that weird. Interesting how they made the mid range laptop really poorly priced (illogical)

[@bogotstogoskiing]

It's worth noting that the Zephyrus M16 with a 4080 comes with a mini led display which is substantially better than any of those other screens. I had a Zephyrus purchased with a 4070 that I was supposed to pick up today but ended up cancelling it because it didn't have the mini led.

[@Rapunzel879]

It's also worth noting that the CPU in the Zephyrus (13900H) is a massive downgrade compared to the top-of-the-line (13900HX) that is available on non-mini LED laptops. You are trading perfomance for brightness, which is simply ludicrous.

[@Cenot4ph]

great that it has a good screen, but it sacrifices on everything else. Lenovo's cooling solution is just a lot better for instance

[@bogotstogoskiing]

@@Rapunzel879 Ah, I didn't realize the processor difference! That's a good point.

[@bogotstogoskiing]

Ended up buying the Legion today. It's on sale for $2249 with a 4080, 32gb, 1tb nvme if you use Coupert. Thanks!

[@Rapunzel879]

@@bogotstogoskiing Congrats! I''ve gone with the Gygabyte Aorus 17x with a 4090, 32GB, and 2TB nvme. After a couple of months of wait, I'm getting it tomrrow!

[@D1smantle]

Nvidia really took the saying "Go big or go home" a bit too literal

[@RyomaE28]

This generation the best options are a 4060 or 4080. 4050 has only 6 gb vram and is pretty dismal. 4060 is a good balance between affordable and vram. 4070 is only 10% more performance than 4060 and way far off from the 4080 in terms of performance. 4090 is for people who aren't worried about budget and usually go for the best of the best anyway. The biggest decisions are between a 4060 and 3070Ti. While the 3070Ti is definitely better without considering FG, the newer gen laptops offer better CPU solutions for people who want to use their laptop as an actual laptop and not a desktop replacement.

[@siyzerix]

Yeah, but 4060 laptops also cost more than 3070ti laptops, and generally the 3070ti laptops pack a similar tier of CPU to the 4060 ones (remember the 13th gen H series is just 12th gen rebranded). And if the 4060 is barely 12% faster than the 3060 at 1440p, well the 3070ti will be a very solid 15-20% faster than the 4060 at 1440p. Best bet is to just grab a 3070ti laptop which already gives you performance very close to a 3080ti mobile and just wait it out till rtx 5000 for what is hopefully an actual upgrade. And don't put your hopes on AMD. They're going to disappoint once again. Their rx7600S already costs more than 3060 laptops yet performs the same.

[@RyomaE28]

@@siyzerix I'm moreso comparing a 7840 hs + 4060 combo to a 6800H + 3070Ti combo. I want battery life and portability as well. If it was pure compute power then there's no comparison that the 3070Ti is faster. But unfortunately there's no 7840HS + 3070Ti combo and the HX series from AMD or any Intel processor are battery hogs. For the HS processors I've seen 4060 laptops around 1100$ whereas most 3070Ti laptops are above that in the 1300$ range. The Acer Nitro 5 is cheap for 1000$ but it's also a lower tier laptop than say the Helios 300 3070Ti I'm not keeping any hope from amd gpus unfortunately, but their phoenix range CPUs are really good

[@siyzerix]

@@RyomaE28 Yeah, but the nitro 5's not that much worse than most options either. For starters it packs the full power 3070ti 150w. And for the lack in battery life you do get a 2.5' bay. Its also a fair bit cheaper than most other full power 3070ti laptops and even 4060 and 4050 laptops. Obviously if your top priority is battery life, then go for a 4060 laptop. But the 6800h nitro 5 should get half decent battery life at around 5 to 6 hr if tuned. Cause my intel version gets like 4hr. Most of the full power 4060 laptops aren't that much more portable than the nitro 5 and the more portable options are a fair bit expensive.

[@RyomaE28]

@@siyzerix Yep it's pretty good value for money in the current market. Looking at the Lenovo Legion Slim 5 and if and when the Slim 7 AMD arrives I guess I'll pay a bit more for the portability

[@siyzerix]

@@RyomaE28 How much more portable is it though? 2.2kg vs 2 to 2.4kg for most other laptops? Maybe its a bit smaller in other dimensions but man, that soldered ram really is a slap in the face. If you're going portable why not get a g14? Has the same soldered ram too.

[@nightowl3582]

Going from the 4070 to the 4080 is a big jump, unfortunately. It's crazy how much GPUs are now.

[@DirtyHardSock]

It'll get better sweet flower. The 5000 series in 2025 will be half the cost of the 4000 series and up to 4x more powerful due to a new patented 3D chip design that basically packs 4 GPUs on one chip.

[@maximusasauluk7359]

I'm glad you mentioned the lower wattage of the 4080 on the Asus M16, makes me reconsider my options 🤔

[@ingaz6565]

To be honest, the sweet spot is still the 3070Ti, im skipping the four thousand series, hopefully Nvidia does better next year with the five thousand generation.

[@lil_brumski]

We're not getting 5000 series next year.

[@jasonaltman7164]

Right, but if you’re really committed to not spending $2000, but you really need a new laptop, you’re not getting one with a 4080. It’s a different enough price tier that it’s catering to a different audience.

[@DavidPruitt]

The problem with this is the larger liquid cooled laptop. Once you start factoring in cost and smaller laptops I'm betting these numbers would change. A lot. I bought one with a 4070 based on sales price and form factor. I would be more interested in the same comparison on a more thermally constrained system. My 4070 starts to thermal throttle after a while, I'm sure a 4080 would throttle even worse.

[@s.flaizlett]

I’m having long game sessions on Legion Pro 7 with 4080 and there’s no problems with the throttling. All works fine and gameplay is really smooth.

[@pablothecactus5048]

THANK YOU JARROD! Your site is amazing, I've had a budget of 1500 dollars and I managed to purchase a 4070 Lenovo Legion 5 pro. And it would be even cheaper without customs clearance. If I compare it to the price in Ukraine It would be worth 1500 dollars more! 3200 dollars THAT IS CRAZY!!! Even 1000 dollars is a crazy amount of money here. Once more THANK YOU!!!

[@joelconolly5574]

4070 would be great for thinner designs like the Legion Slim and Zephyrus. Otherwise, it's disappointing to see that Nvidia gimped the lower offerings in favour of the higher tier just like their desktop GPU lineup. Worst of all? This will be in favour of the Ti version coming out next year.

[@JarrodsTech]

Yeah 4070 makes sense there. I am testing the Blade 14 at the moment and it's basically the same as a way thicker laptop - doesn't make sense there, but it does have good efficiency and make sense in much smaller devices.

[@joelconolly5574]

@@JarrodsTech hope we see more of these thin and light with top of the line specs even if just 4070. Though better if companies treat such low wattage GPUs with more thin and light offerings and just the right cooling capacities.

[@naipigidi]

Still sucks ngl

[@SomberThought]

Thank you for all this. Just watched it and landed a sick Pro 7i with a 4080 for less than 2100usd from your site. That is bonkers even in April of 24. The 2070 pro 5i is being sent back unopened today. And the 2070 5i was 50 dollars more! You saved me money and sent my machine into the stratosphere

[@KingdomWithin7]

well not everyone can afford the 4080 so a 4070 isn't such a bad idea.

[@TabalugaDragon]

Thanks for the comparison. Is the 4060 vs 4070 on the way? Also, I think you should stop including the Witcher 3 in these comparisons(at least in 4K), clearly it's an outlier simply because the game doesn't work correctly at 4K. 99%+ of modern, properly-made games are GPU-bound in this resolution.

[@JarrodsTech]

Yes it's next, maybe 3 weeks away though.

[@Rodrifuuu]

Jarrod, I think you could have compared at least a few games at the same power limit to show differences that are not attributed to power alone.

[@panathaninf]

lately it seems that the price of 4070 laptops have gone closer to 4060 ones than the 4080. Probably Nvidia adapted the price of 4070 according to performance

[@mohammedakeel7189]

Price wise, the only sweet spots in this gen of gaming laptops are the 4060 ($1100) and the 4080 ($2000).

[@vitaliibraslavets]

Here in Europe is more like 4060 1500€ at least but most are way more expensive and 4080 is like 3000€ at cheapest currently.

[@MTN1601]

in Vietnam, the cheapest laptop with rtx 4060 is only 1065$ (converted) while the 4080 one is 3237$ (converted), literally 3x times more expensive

[@toblobs]

This narrows down the selection of value for money to 4080 and 4060

[@JarrodsTech]

They do seem to be the best of what we've got

[@Leocardion1]

Go for the 4080 ;)

[@gnarl12]

The price difference is so great its almost comical. $500+ at least

[@aytraf]

The cap on the 4070 seems artificial and a well-motivated move to be honest.

[@chawaratthaworncheewin8955]

This video released, after I just brought 4070 legion pro 5 😂

[@JarrodsTech]

Don't get me wrong, the 4070 still performs good, just depends on the price difference at the end of the day.

[@lil_brumski]

You made a big mistake, just give me your 4070 laptop and buy a 4090 laptop for your self 😂😂😂

[@dwanzil_]

In India, the 4080 variants are about 30% - 50% (at least) more costly compared to their 4070 counterparts.

[@siyzerix]

And the 3070ti nitro 5 is half the cost of a 4070 laptop

[@stefdezy1562]

@@siyzerix Maybe in the US. I live literally only 2.5 hours from the border (in Canada), and here, 4070 notebook's are basically the same price as 3070ti's, making the choice a no-brainer. Most places outside the US, whether you live in India like OP, or a short-drive of the border like me, follow very similar price trends. 4080/4090's often go for ~$1000+ more than a 4070, while the 4070 is only slightly more $ than previous generation 3070ti's as store's typically cannot afford the same sales as in the US due to currency conversion and shipping costs. It sucks. Seeing some of the deals consistently showing up in the US is something I don't think I'll ever get used to lol (i.e., 3070ti notebooks for

[@micha8701]

​@@stefdezy1562nah, shipping costs and convertions are just stupid greed excuse. If shipping costs and duty are lower than price diffrence diffrence, then there is no point of buying local. Like this cheaper shop need to profit anyway and shipping multiple part always lower costs.

[@stefdezy1562]

@@micha8701 that’s the point. Shipping costs and conversion fees are nearly never cheaper than buying local. Remember, despite being “foreign,” these shops still get much better prices than consumers because they buy in bulk or have partnership deals. Neither of which are available to the regular consumer. However, they also control when older products go on sale (or don’t, in this case). Edit: spelling

[@siyzerix]

@@stefdezy1562 In india the 3070ti is literally cheaper than a 4050 140w laptop and half the price of a 4070. Of course once stock dries up it'll jack up in price

[@t-90islife95]

Sadly there's no cheap 4080 here in my country The worth of a 4080 laptop here in my country is like one Big Bike 😅😂

[@adamlittle595]

So if I'm understanding this correctly, if I'm deciding between a model of the ROG Zephyrus M16 would I be better off getting the 4070 version with the slimmer profile/thermals of the Zephyrus? The 4080 would thermal throttle and wouldn't be as powerful because of the 145W power limit? At that point if form factor isn't THAT important to me, would it just make sense to bite the bullet and get the ROG Strix Scar 16 with the 4080 with it having 175W?

[@mitchp30]

That what I was thinking too, the 4080 is in the same form factor/cooling setup as a 4070, but pushes 40-75 more watts.. it's probably less likely to thermal throttle on the 4070 so would it make better sense to get the 70 for long term?

[@DuWha]

After price matching at Best Buy and with the dell sale, and the 10% coupon added on made it go down to 1300$ usd with the 16GB DDR5 Ram, I7 13709HX, 4070, 2560-1600 Resolution. The 4080 model for me was 2,822$. I already own a 4090 beast desktop rig and needed something weaker to play old games like medieval 2. For that price difference and the great sale I got, I can’t justify the price gap at all, plus ultra settings aren’t really needed in games at all especially with the small screen and beautiful panel as it’s not the R2 line. Honestly for the price I got I think it blows the 4080 model out of the water for price to performance, also the weight of the m18 4080 model with the big battery doesn’t really make it portable at all, while my m16 is a lot less weighty and can take it around a lot easier. Overall very happy with my purchase

[@KoiAquaponics]

I just picked up an Aorus 15x with 13900hx and rtx 4070. Only paid $1200, and it runs games fine. It's also not needing to render 4k but only 144p. I put the extra money in an m2 drive and more ram.

[@michaelvictordimayuga3759]

Best value right now? My recently bought MSI Vector GP78HX 13V. Intel i9 13980HX, RTX 4080, 2560x1600, 240 Hz QHD screen. All that beastly performance for nearly 2100 GBP (I live in the UK).

[@karimjerbi7084]

4070 vs 3080 please!

[@JarrodsTech]

We don't have any 3080 laptops here to test with :(

[@zyzzin6950]

See if you can do another test with Lenovo Legion. I get around 70-90 fps on average with most games on 1440p with 4070 and Ryzen 7840HS. Something here is not right. This can be due to system optimization or more power watt consumption. Laptop brands is also very important to compare because some manufacturers have better cooling system which allows better power consumption.

[@ikennaonyegbula6062]

Nah, in Canada, the difference between a 4070 and a 4080 is like a thousand dollars.

[@DeadBeefTech]

Ouch. Nvidia really upselling the RTX 4080 12GB laptop here with the 4070's weak 8GB vram buffer. At least the 8GB VRAM it isn't as much of a concern for 1080p on laptops compared to desktop where you have bigger monitors... until you add a larger external display to your laptop.

[@ObomXD]

Hey Jarrod! Can you please maybe review the MSI Bravo 15 with the RTX 4060? I believe it uses a 105W GPU which is exactly the sweet spot for performance as shown in your previous videos and it is sitting at a reasonable price.

[@ElenarMT]

I bought a Acer Predator Helios Core i9-13900HX, 16GB DDR5 (5200Mhz) with an RTX 4070 for £1500. That's with a 16 inch 1600x1200 display. A huge upgrade from my i9 Clevo, DDR4 (3200Mhz) with its RTX 2080 and 17" HD display. It's also less than half of what I paid for the Clevo. I'm a 46 year old man who won't notice anything over 60fps and probably won't notice the difference in the HD vs 2k display. Plus I am a Data Literacy Lecturer, so need something sensible-ish. Given that I have a mortgage and other commitments, even the £1500 I paid for this laptop made me question my sanity. Still, fairly happy with it. There will always be a bigger damn fish, especially on Star Wars Day (when I posted this). It's been an issue I've struggled with since I got into computers in the early1980s. Buy something you can afford now, or save up for the bigger better thing - which when you're ready, is still replaced by an even bigger and better thing

[@lefton_open15]

Is that laptop good at gaming??

[@revenantwolzart]

If there is a price difference of more than 500 USD then 4070 is a good option for most people as it can come in thinner more portable laptops, and 4080 is an overkill for casual gamers at QHD+

[@MaDDeX93]

Overkill? :D 8GB vram is bare minimum nowdays.

[@MrPrototype248]

​@MaDDeX93 true but you can still play fine with it.

[@rynetemp]

Thank you so much, Jarrod! This helped me make the decision to get the MSI GP68HX on discount which has a 4080 in it while being substantially less expensive than most other RTX 4080 laptops.

[@weeqs1636]

Are you happy with it ? I bought it today and I wasn’t sure either I’d go with one that have better resolution 1440p and larger screen but with a 4070 or the MSI

[@rynetemp]

​@@weeqs1636 I'm very happy with the purchase as I got it for $2499 discounted from $3000 in my local currency. That actually made it comparable to some of the more higher-end 4070 laptops which can retail for around $2500 or a little less although less premium 4070 laptops can be found for a lot less. Been using the GP68HX Vector for 1.5 months now. I would totally take the GP68HX Vector over another laptop with a 1440p screen and a mobile 4070. The issue with the mobile 4070 is that it only has 8Gb VRAM which is going to age poorly especially at 1440P. The most VRAM-intensive games are already eating up ~9Gb VRAM at a time at 1080P ultra settings such as Hogwarts Legacy or The Last of Us Part 1. That is going to cause stuttering on a mobile RTX 4070. I would not be surprised if in about 2 years the RTX 4070 can barely handle 1440P and even has trouble at 1080P on higher settings. It is only going to be worse at 1440P. The mobile RTX 4080 in the GP68HX Vector has 12Gb of VRAM and is quite powerful which will allow it to age well with a 1080P screen. I plan to keep new computers for at least 4-5 years. I might have to turn down settings at the tail-end of that timeline but we do have DLSS now to help improve framerates. I don't think you will regret buying the GP68HX Vector. The configuration for your GP68HX Vector might be a bit different depending on region. Mine has a 12th-gen Intel Core i9 12900HX and 32Gb of DDR5 RAM in addition to the 4080 which made the cost worth it for me. I can see that the last-gen i9 could have been a cost-saving measure but it keeps up with the 13th-gen i7 13700HX which makes it a non-issue for me. The 1080P also seems to be a reasonable cost-saving measure - it doesn't have G-Sync or Advanced Optimus although those are not deal-breakers for me. All the other RTX 4080 laptops available started at ~$3500 in my currency which made the GP68HX vector a great deal! It would be cool to see @JarrodsTech review it and give his thoughts on some of the cost-saving measures and apply his in-depth testing to it. @GizmoSlipTech and @TechGuyBeau do have reviews and benchmarks on it in case you want to see them

[@SUPERKLIKACZpl]

Who has 4070 in a laptop, he does not laugh in the circus...🤷

[@thraxberserker9960]

4080 laptops are literally like $1000 more than 4070 ones in the United States 😂😂😂