Best Batteries for Off Grid Living - Van Life, Tiny Home - Lithium vs AGM

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Jarrod Tocci

Jarrod Tocci

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@JarrodTocci
@JarrodTocci 4 жыл бұрын
Check out more videos from the playlists below and my website for more information: Website: jarrodtocci.com/ Tours Playlist: kzbin.info/aero/PLHrnevETejEMWv5kclacXhH6atb3ax6tl Van Informational Vlog Playlist: kzbin.info/aero/PLHrnevETejEMseRhXNwNjrs5BU7RLpvhg Entertainment Vlog: kzbin.info/aero/PLHrnevETejENxc67U9B7IO0r2H9F5K0oa GHOST Build Playlist: kzbin.info/aero/PLHrnevETejENEalXZqQCA2zR64OG_5yM1
@RestaurantSeatingDesigner
@RestaurantSeatingDesigner 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Jarid can you talk more about the happy Jack system for the beds.. I'm gonna be getting a Prime Minister and I kind of want to use that happy Jack system in the front not the back I'm wondering if it's possible? Or do you think it would interfere with the sliding door on the side? I really need the wall space for other things I have planned for the area so I would like to have a seating and desk area underneath the bed from behind my car seats. Then have the bed above it. This or leave me well space on both sides to do it it is that I need to do and fit in the things that I want. Due to the fact this is my 1st time and I have no clue how the happy Jack system works I really need your help with us thank you so much.
@RestaurantSeatingDesigner
@RestaurantSeatingDesigner 4 жыл бұрын
And for the happy Jack bed system I wanted to be a full size not a Queen. And how much do you think it would cost to get the stuff so I can put it together myself. And where can I get it. You cannot order it from you guys.?????
@bernarddouthit4647
@bernarddouthit4647 3 жыл бұрын
I am just getting started with solar and was about to buy a lead-acid battery, but now understand so much more about them. This is a huge help. Thanks to you both for putting this together.
@NoLimitVanLife
@NoLimitVanLife 4 жыл бұрын
Lightharvest solar has the distribution blocks and power panels that I want for my build and I can't find them anywhere else. I love hearing the owner explain everything because he seemed so passionate about batteries and solar.
@scottmckinney9760
@scottmckinney9760 4 жыл бұрын
Makes me so psyched that I just ordered my system with these guys!!! been getting things set up with John and he has been awesome to deal with. Thanks for the series of vids
@fookdatchit4245
@fookdatchit4245 4 жыл бұрын
Loving this series Jarrod. Learning loads as usual. Thanks m8.
@BBBCanada1
@BBBCanada1 3 жыл бұрын
This is BY FAR THE BEST video I’ve seen on this subject. Very easy to understand and now I know what I have to do. I have 5 acid batteries in my truck and I only need one of these. That would save me on weight and fuel. Thank you. 👍🏼
@islandvibes9076
@islandvibes9076 4 жыл бұрын
JT - love the content. Wish you would do the "what's going on... GUYS!" in every video! That's a JT signature line!
@JarrodTocci
@JarrodTocci 4 жыл бұрын
LOL thanks!
@FBall-im8ui
@FBall-im8ui Жыл бұрын
this guy sells the stuff and does know where its made, nice
@srameypr
@srameypr 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Jarrod - that all-in-one unit is intriguing!
@nomansvan827
@nomansvan827 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! So much information. What a set up for a work trailer to pull behind the van.
@igowhereimtowed6839
@igowhereimtowed6839 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Three years ago I purchased 6 Herewin 12 volt 100 Ah batteries. At that time I paid $520.00 each shipping included. Earlier this year I installed them on my motorhome. With just over 2000 watts of solar on the roof. Posted a video on the installation on my channel.
@Kralphrn
@Kralphrn 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Myles does a great job explaining everything
@melissasmith1727
@melissasmith1727 3 жыл бұрын
Good ideas! Keep up the good work!
@Snarge22
@Snarge22 4 жыл бұрын
Love all this stuff! Noted something that isn't mentioned much is in regards to big natural weather events, and that is these Class B vans (work trucks in fact) to RV conversions, and RVs in general are great for when the weather goes quite bad and the power goes out or one needs to leave. With an RV, and these Promaster/Sprinter/Transit/Chevy-vans, one can exit with a fully self contained vehicle. Or if the power simply goes out, one can move into the RV for a few nights. How easy.
@lightharvestsolar
@lightharvestsolar 4 жыл бұрын
Great point! I've also had lot's of customers simply run an extension cord into the house when power goes out. Having an emergency power system is super handy.
@cathylivingston368
@cathylivingston368 4 жыл бұрын
I've been full-timing for two years in a Transit 250, but haven't "built" out any permanent features like solar, power, water, etc., precisely because of the high expense and technical expertise required for me to maintain those systems. I'm with Miles..."We have the technology; we can change the world we live in!" Especially now, in Paradise, California, we're experiencing frequent power shut-offs due to fire danger, along with earthquake "swarms" occurring very near high-voltage lines and power generation sites. And, solar "economics," it seems, only applies to those "special" folks who OWN their own home. Thanks for sharing your passion...I'm with you!
@pedrogarcia4140
@pedrogarcia4140 4 жыл бұрын
Super informative in Batteries! You gotta have the right battery set-up to go Solar. That portable Power Station is a game changer.
@LivingProcess
@LivingProcess 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant as always! Love that we share the passion to save the world ♻️🌿☀️
@michaeltonkin9004
@michaeltonkin9004 4 жыл бұрын
I have just ordered 3x 200amh slim batteries for my van build in 48 Volt. I am in Australia and 48 Volt is the latest and greatest and also cheaper than 12 Volt. The Inverter and all the gear to run it is Victron.
@juliansiegmund2369
@juliansiegmund2369 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting... I was wondering about this. Question though, how would you go about charging 12v stuff?
@daniel.messick
@daniel.messick 4 жыл бұрын
Next video with Miles you should give him a minute or two at the end to just speak in technical terms to make everyone appreciate how much he simplifies language.
@dean167
@dean167 4 жыл бұрын
Fair play mate ! I can gurentee this has helped a lot of us !
@JackWrobel
@JackWrobel 4 жыл бұрын
I've been farting around with SLA and lithium batteries for years and this video would have saved me so much money and time
@KamberKahu
@KamberKahu 4 жыл бұрын
Miles rocks!
@jayspell179
@jayspell179 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, Jarrod!
@James-be7cz
@James-be7cz 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid. Thanks a lot for the advice.
@mattsolomon6292
@mattsolomon6292 4 жыл бұрын
Time for the build using two portable power plants! One for the lights and pumps, one for the cooking and fun.
@sprinterdiscovery
@sprinterdiscovery 4 жыл бұрын
Love your content, and learned a lot Jarrod! Is there a 24v 100ah Lithium battery available with built-in ability to output 12v?
@this-is-slammin-549
@this-is-slammin-549 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@jaywebb9973
@jaywebb9973 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent info!!
@limitlesscoker6669
@limitlesscoker6669 3 жыл бұрын
Would like to know what Miles thinks about Maryland solar with their military grade flexible panels. If he’s ever had experience with
@RestaurantSeatingDesigner
@RestaurantSeatingDesigner 4 жыл бұрын
I'm getting my Van real soon.. I had really had my heart on for the new ford 4 by 4 transit but it cost too much. So i am looking at the pro master ,still has a very high price Tag but at least it's $10000 cheaper.🤗 And for some reason in Las Vegas is getting really heard teacher hands on a Van. Some my most important question is when I 1st start on the van do i start on the electrical 1st then work around it? Thinking that's what I gotta do but I definitely want to get a package together from you guys to put together my solar and power package ,will need to be strong enough to winterize My Van. And I like the solar panel said don't have all the squares on .. the newer one that gets more sunlight without any obstructions.
@RobertBadgett
@RobertBadgett 4 жыл бұрын
What is the battery in the 1800wh system for $1150? LiFePO4?
@toutmoncoeur
@toutmoncoeur 3 жыл бұрын
We're all a little bit in love with miles. At this point
@simon8864
@simon8864 3 жыл бұрын
Lead acid batteries will initially give massive current to start an engine but that current quickly tailes off. For starting engines they're great. But not good for much else.
@soxxy8588
@soxxy8588 2 жыл бұрын
Question if you have time. What would I need to run 1Kw all day every day?
@ducksinarowpatience
@ducksinarowpatience 3 жыл бұрын
Does this run ceiling fan? What about AC. I have pets!
@serenas8144
@serenas8144 4 жыл бұрын
I'm still looking for someone to install my solar and to my RV and to help me with my build in Fort Lauderdale, I have been looking for a month, to no avail. I'm in Fort Lauderdale Florida. Do y'all know anyone? Thank you
@simonefire
@simonefire 4 жыл бұрын
Check out Mango Vans in Miami
@DavidTaylor-hk9ir
@DavidTaylor-hk9ir 4 жыл бұрын
What is the low temperature battery shut off, please?
@DavidTaylor-hk9ir
@DavidTaylor-hk9ir 4 жыл бұрын
Do you need a designated battery charger for the lions battery ?
@DavidTaylor-hk9ir
@DavidTaylor-hk9ir 4 жыл бұрын
May I use a regular good battery charger ?
@DavidTaylor-hk9ir
@DavidTaylor-hk9ir 4 жыл бұрын
Can the lions be connected in series 48 v ?
@TucciDaGucci
@TucciDaGucci 2 жыл бұрын
I'm looking for a..."What to look for in a battery..." PAST difference between Lithium & Lead acid. Like, give me 3 power usage situations 1) mimum power draw system, like a few appliances 2) few appliances and AC 3) Hardcore power system...max power draw system...AC, appliances...2nd alternators...Tell me what I need to look for in batteries, accessories & hardware for each situation.
@thomas-ms6st
@thomas-ms6st 4 жыл бұрын
what heater was miles talking about heating the snow off windshield and heat the rest of the van??
@lightharvestsolar
@lightharvestsolar 3 жыл бұрын
Just a tiny electric heater from home depot or wherever.
@sandygraham7943
@sandygraham7943 4 жыл бұрын
What lithium batteries can be charged in extreme cold temps ???? 20 to 35 below zero .
@jeremycowan4214
@jeremycowan4214 4 жыл бұрын
I have been on the fence about lithium batteries due to the 5 months of cold. -20 to -40 C. My van has a wabasto knock off heater, but I can never guarantee the batteries are going to stay above zero all day everyday, sometimes the van might not be used for a week or to. should one stick with lead acid ?
@JarrodTocci
@JarrodTocci 4 жыл бұрын
Some lithium have Low Temp batteries. They tend to be more expensive but they are able to handle colder weather much better so that's why they started making them. I'd still go with lithium and try and find a way to keep them warm enough for those 5 months. My opinion
@mtbgo7860
@mtbgo7860 3 жыл бұрын
Lion batteries are not appropriate for a van or moving vehicle. The terminals and cases are not sealed and can cause issues when in moisture and movement.
@JarrodTocci
@JarrodTocci 3 жыл бұрын
Umm they are sealed 😂 so not sure where you’re getting your info from
@mtbgo7860
@mtbgo7860 3 жыл бұрын
@@JarrodTocci kzbin.info/www/bejne/gYPIaoeNeqqif5I
@mtbgo7860
@mtbgo7860 3 жыл бұрын
@@JarrodTocci not sealed. Check the video.
@mtbgo7860
@mtbgo7860 3 жыл бұрын
@@JarrodTocci Where are you getting your information from? 😂. Clearly...lion energy batteries are not safe for vans or anything that moves.
@SkypowerwithKarl
@SkypowerwithKarl 4 жыл бұрын
Starter batteries are lead acid because they can handle the extreme momentary surge current of a starter, 400+ amps. The best 100 amp hour lithium batteries max out at 200 amps for 30 seconds or 100 amps continuous. Other than that the lithium batteries are far superior. If you need more current capacity from a lithium, you run them in parallel.
@duanehundley
@duanehundley 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know much about solar or bms systems but I know that wiring in parallel or series is easy. I'm not sure why he makes that a point that he thinks sounds difficult.
@mightystreaming933
@mightystreaming933 4 жыл бұрын
Lithium dont like cold or heat so there wirthless.. AGM works in all weather
@Housemouse7777
@Housemouse7777 3 жыл бұрын
Ive been talking about this for a decade...lol.
@ryanambsdorf2859
@ryanambsdorf2859 4 жыл бұрын
F me and my poor choice of expensive gel batteries :(
@JarrodTocci
@JarrodTocci 4 жыл бұрын
No worries! We have all been there. My first van also had gels. With a certain charge controller you can upgrade to lithiums in the future
@apocolypse11
@apocolypse11 3 жыл бұрын
Acid battery obsolete exactly
@glen7463
@glen7463 3 жыл бұрын
If you fly drones you wouldn’t want a charged lithium in a room while your asleep
@glensalmon3695
@glensalmon3695 4 жыл бұрын
bias towards lithium. not well versed in agm.
@JarrodTocci
@JarrodTocci 4 жыл бұрын
Are you saying yourself or us? I personally have had both is 2 different vans, so I'd say I'm qualified. If you're speaking for yourself then trust me you're not missing out on a lot not knowing too much on agm. And Light Harvest Solar is extremally knowledgeable in all batteries and doesn't carry agm because of knowing what they know.
@lightharvestsolar
@lightharvestsolar 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed, I have a HEAVY bias against AGM's. The worst economics of all the choices and obsolete performance. Once upon a time they were the only thing we could put inside and they worked so we used them. Those days are long gone and now there are much better options. I have approximately 35,000 off grid hours on AGM's, designed hundreds of systems, blah blah blah, for perspectives sake.
@davidjones1393
@davidjones1393 4 жыл бұрын
OOOOOOO MAN
@tamo9520
@tamo9520 4 жыл бұрын
I wish he would have showed us that power station & pointed out all the outlets, if it had any, or the various different outlets, again, if it had any, and what can be plugged into it, instead of using just a ''words"! Some of us need to have hands-on to understand: he says, "I can cook on that, I can boil water on that, . . ." so, does it have an element inside? Does it open up like a camp stove? I know it doesn't, & now if anyone is reading my post, they also know, but if they didn't, . . . . .?
@JarrodTocci
@JarrodTocci 4 жыл бұрын
I'll be doing video on his power stations separate
@tamo9520
@tamo9520 4 жыл бұрын
@@JarrodTocci Perfect. that would be awesome! Luv your information! Thank you!
@RimdarRanch
@RimdarRanch 4 жыл бұрын
EVERYONE will agree Lithium are better. NOT everyone can afford them or get "sponsored " them. I run 600Ah of AGM Batteries. I can't afford the $6000.00 to buy Lithium, or the 300Ah that I can now use. MAYBE if Battle Born and the other companies didn't give away as many they could drop the prices for the every-day guy like myself. JMO
@JarrodTocci
@JarrodTocci 4 жыл бұрын
As someone that has had both and understands your point of view, I'm saying that it will cost more over the long run by using AGM. I think most that have had both will agree with me there as well. Cost of certain lithium batteries are coming down to a reasonable cost. Again in mine, and others, opinion it's very worth the upfront cost
@RimdarRanch
@RimdarRanch 4 жыл бұрын
@@JarrodTocci When you're on a Bologna budget ( Social Security ) you just can't afford Filet Mignon.
@islandvibes9076
@islandvibes9076 4 жыл бұрын
@gerald Darnell - while I see what you're saying, understand that sometimes, you're gonna get what you pay for - AGMs are cheaper, but require more care and won't last as long in the long run. As JT said, the cost will pay off in the long run.
@Lawiah0
@Lawiah0 3 жыл бұрын
lead carbon battery
@jamesshrewsbury2610
@jamesshrewsbury2610 4 жыл бұрын
This guy might be a good business man but he doesn't know much about batteries . He is talking a bunch of bs to boot . Sorry man he just doesn't know , I would NOT buy anything from him.
@JarrodTocci
@JarrodTocci 4 жыл бұрын
But you didn't say what he's bs'ing about. Do some research and checking because I've been doing this a long time and I know a good company when I see one
@freejack5555
@freejack5555 4 жыл бұрын
Another highly biased lithium battery vs AGM battery video. There are ZERO AGM battery sponsors on KZbin so its no wonder why you never see any pro AGM battery videos. Have you ever used an AGM battery? Ever looked at how an AGM battery performs at a 20% or 30% DOD instead of the 50%? Hell you didn't have your van long enough to ruin an AGM battery but you prophesizing how they are bad. You'd need 300 amp hours of Lithium to compete with my 600 amp hours of AGM. My one worry is not discharging too much and you still have that same worry plus you have to deal with cold batteries, bad charging and a host of other problems that will kill your lithium way faster than my AGMs. I can screw them up 3 times before I spent the money you would have on lithium. Oh and an AGM can't run anything like a lithium? I run everything off mine including my 13.5k BTU AC unit. And please don't tell me about these lithium warranties. I've read them and they are all very tricky. I hear people saying all the time certain batteries have 10 year warranties and then you read them and its a prorated refund on a repurchase only.
@bjbhehir
@bjbhehir 4 жыл бұрын
Free Jack from AGM!
@freejack5555
@freejack5555 4 жыл бұрын
@@bjbhehir BJ your lithium
@Espiritiv
@Espiritiv Жыл бұрын
Agm doesn'tt have nearly as many charge cycles. You might as well try to convince us ICE is better than EV when clearly it's not based on total cost over there useful life
@Mylifelovingit
@Mylifelovingit 3 жыл бұрын
Nope.
@craigslist04
@craigslist04 4 жыл бұрын
Lead is Dead man...
@rickowens4397
@rickowens4397 2 жыл бұрын
Fast-talkers skip so much. Thumbs down.
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