Jason Martin says TDE is the BEST West Coast Rap Label EVER - Better Than Death Row

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[@troyterry3226]

The TDE run from 2012-2018 is the greatest run by any independent hip hop label ever.

[@shawnorjiakor]

As far as transitioning into mainstream? I agree. Longevity? Strange Music got it.

[@Npreaper]

@@shawnorjiakorstrange music is weak and not mainstream 😂 they’re like the trailer park of rap music

[@shawnorjiakor]

@@Npreaper They're "trailer park" yet Tech N9ne made millions independently.

[@chadbutler8634]

😂😂 stop it

[@troyterry3226]

@JakeWill-wz5nu those deals were done either in partnership with tde or outside of tde but tde is still independent. Ab Soul isn’t signed to anyone but TDE and has been that way the whole time

[@bigone9820]

I’m a TDE fan but Deathrow had great roster and diamond albums

[@PalatialSlumlord5183]

A great roster with only 4 Classic albums lol

[@VareaIII]

​@PalatialSlumlord5183 how many TDE got?

[@bigone9820]

@@PalatialSlumlord5183 more like 8 “lol”

[@bigone9820]

Outside of Kendrick and sza TDE doesn’t have as much talent as death row snoop dr Dre Tupac and Daz n karupt

[@EBizz85]

FUCKIN THANK YOU FOR MENTIONING 40 and TOO SHORT LA and the media make it seem LA is the whole West Coast which it isn't. Kev showing love

[@biggerthanhiphop7641]

Too short and e40 are 60 year old men that been carrying the bay ..lol ...the bay need new artist .. they biggest artist are old and played out .. when is somebody new gonna push for the bay at a high scale... E40 and too short are not popping . Respectfully

[@Kev_-qm1je]

We created the Independent market in the Bay, from 40, 2 short, Mac Dre, Messy Marv, Tha Jacka , & others

[@ZoneOne2150]

Yeah except for short and 40 water…yall corny ass hell 😅😅

[@Kev_-qm1je]

@@biggerthanhiphop7641 you must not know who Larry June🍊🍊 is, bruh been carrying us in the Bay for the last 5 years, dropping hella consistent projects

[@nl5h]

no you aren't poppin, respectively.

[@youngchief31]

Five albums i can’t live without: Bone Thugs n Harmony - “E. 1999 Eternal” E-40 - “Hall of Game” DMX - “It’s Dark & Hell is Hot” Ab-Soul - “Control System” Juvenile - 400 Degreez

[@davidsolorzano6050]

Damn I’ve been sleep lol If I knew Jason Martin was problem I would’ve clicked on this video sooner 😂

[@donttripp]

That's what I said

[@loonyboyhatch]

Legit didn’t know till you said it. lol

[@johngotti2929]

DEATH ROW AND THATS IT

[@ZoneOne2150]

Death Row - Period Point Blank. TDE…lol da fuq outta here wit dat.

[@ralfiejr34]

Death Row is the greatest hip hop label ever. They had the biggest impact, changed the game for people today and are talked about more than any other label.

[@WHYNOT_MEDIA]

so we arew going to ignore THE CHRONIC, DOGGY STYLE, AND DOGG FOOD

[@mcorley9184]

If u from the house and u was off the porch in the mid 90s Dogg Food was coldest thing we ever heard

[@jesussinaloa9300]

Just Googled it. Death row has sold 150 million records worldwide. TDE has done 10 million. Sure TDE has had a longer run but culturally Deathrow has had a bigger impact. You are more likely to see a 20 year old wearing Death row merch before you see them with TDE merch or a Kendrick Lamar t shirt

[@ralfiejr34]

Facts. DR changed the game forever.

[@linusfingesi2222]

These guys even comparing TDE to DR is just blasphemy at its height....Just a Comparism of the Artists, Impact of its time, records sold under that label in terms of numbers and Impact on culture....Jeez, even comparing them is just ridiculous....Compare the calibre of Artist that were under DR, its impact for LA and the Coast....let me even mention the records - The Chronic, Doggystyle, Dogg Food, AEOM, Makavelli, Murder Was the Case and Above the Rim Sound Tracks and so on.....which TDE album (and i love Kdot, Sza, Ab Soul and crew but damn) comes close to these?

[@xXTheHDNoobXX]

Not very comparable, Death Row never had to deal with the streaming & blog era. You can sell 10 records but it does not necessarily mean that only 10 people heard it. Off of 10 records you can have 100 plays, or thousands, or you could have played it 0 times. If we were to count 8-12 plays of a streaming album as a record sale than TDE would be crazy high, might not pass Death Row but it would be closer. I believe the streaming services all count there album sales at a crazy high play. For example; for 10 tracks on 1 album you would need to play all of those tracks a combined amount of 1500 times before Spotify counts that as an album sale. If you take GKMC’s total streams and actually count 1 play of a song off of that album as a sale, GKMC would have sold upwards of a billion album sales.

[@linusfingesi2222]

@@xXTheHDNoobXX You think GKMC would outsell Doogy Style and the Chronic if they were released at the same time!? GKMC would not even get close to AEOM in sales.....if those albums came out with Streaming as a possibility I can confidently say Doggystyle would do Thriller numbers.

[@jesussinaloa9300]

​​@@xXTheHDNoobXXeven removing the record sales, outside of Kendrick...do you honestly believe the roster on TDE impacted the culture like Dr. Dre, Snoop, and Tupac? I would even go as far as to say Suge Knight is more influential than than the rappers on TDE (outside of Kendrick). It's not even close

[@JefeDeJefes8484]

TDE is dope. I'm born and raised in the beach but there is no comparison to Death Row/Tha Row especially in it's heyday.

[@theenlightmentchannel3842]

your right but if your looking at how TDE is all about the music not how Death Row was heavily into violence & gang banging!

[@mcorley9184]

record sales and cultural influence its not close. Death Row change culture all over the world. Music still timeless like 30 years later. We’ll see how TDE holds up in 30yrs. God bless the West

[@BklynZu]

This is a great conversation but this would be better if they had someone that was actually a little older to talk about what was actually going on in the early to the mid '90s at the height of Death Row Records

[@tahutira480]

That Death Row tree is untouchable, hands down. Influence, impact, setting standards, classics, and immortal. If you mention Death Row Records, people are likely to know it.

[@marlonglanton4372]

There was a tiny mom & pop record label called Death Row Might have heard of it?

[@traceatroj240]

TDE has done incredible on how they do their things......

[@luggerphilippe8409]

He said they have two of the biggest artist Who is the second person SZA?

[@traceatroj240]

People will always count Kendrick lamar as TDE/PgLang...... I think that's why he said that

[@Kev_-qm1je]

My Top 5 Westcoast Albums of All time: 1.Quik- Safe & Sound 2. E-40 - In a Major Way 3. Suga Free - Street Gospel 4. K Dot- Section 80 5. Snoop Dogg- Tha Last Meal

[@nell4158]

I’m going to play angels advocate and say death row but I’m from the Frisco (San Francisco) and they just taking about LA we have some some record labels that been around up in the Bay and Sac that don’t get props like they should

[@biggerthanhiphop7641]

No bay label could ever compare to deathrow ..sic wid it ? Get low records? Thizz records ? They all local jokers ..deathrow took over the world .. this took over the bay ..big difference

[@ez-fecta]

This interview 💯💯💯💯

[@KingJu42]

Dpg dog food hold its own with any album west or east!!

[@LilHondaCivic808]

💯🔥🔥🔥

[@RuthIessVillain]

mannn listen! dogg food is a classic for real, I was just listening to it earlier at the gym

[@MarkHallOfFame]

On my mama!!!😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨🔥🔥🔥

[@ACERVELIBEATZ]

Do we got a "problem" lol.....LIKE WHAAAAAAT - who this Jason Martin dude 🤔🤑💯💰💸🤣😂🔥🎯💀

[@AK-ky3ou]

“problem” became a problem, had to revert to his gubment name.

[@jdirtdapimp]

I was thinking the same thing lol but I'm a savant so I knew who it was

[@marcuskirkland8431]

Interesting discussion. Man! I gotta go with death row. Even tho I love TDE. I would LOVE to produce for them. But ROW was a machine

[@v.i.p7992]

I agree.

[@SickWorldEntTV]

It’s Deathrow they was dropping back to back classics out the gate

[@Masito83]

For over 2 decades Safe + Sound was my favorite Quik album and then one random day in the barber shop I was talked into giving it and Balance & Options a ball to back listen...and Balance & Options is better imo...humbly of course! 😂

[@d-train510]

Even TDE would laugh at this shit 🤣

[@luggerphilippe8409]

Yeah he tripping for real 😂 like people who don't even like the Row got to admit there the ones who gave birth to everyone else.. Even if he said Aftermath I would understand..

[@malcolmmuhammad7993]

2Pac had a 5 year run 91 thru 96

[@dosemusicplug]

I 100% agree with kev and his perspective.

[@cassandraclark5499]

This nixxa smoking BIG DOPE

[@Artislife1992]

And they’re the best label of the 2010’s aswell. 💯💯💯

[@rhythmgangsta760]

A Deathrow compilation vs a TDE compilation at the peak of Deathrows height would be un fuccn fair‼️ #Deathrow 🏆

[@ce.2037]

Maybe !

[@AK-ky3ou]

This foo ain’t old enough to know any different.

[@loonyboyhatch]

No bro is definitely old enough he’s three years older than me and I remember the entire death row run and still listen to most those albums… the issue is he’s biased because he came up with black hippie… i’m from Del Amo just like ab soul I remember when all these cats started off, ima go with death row but the more I think about it it is kinda close do to TDE’s longevity and music quality.

[@ShadStu804]

Problem right TDE hell of a run. death row impact on culture, the stories the artists and big albums.

[@bbe388]

good debate but its Death Row...

[@bigone9820]

Thizz entertainment was a big wave….you had to be there

[@TopHat5900]

Better than Ruthless Records, Death Row, Aftermath and EMPIRE??? Knock it off

[@KingCristo]

YES. Sza. That's what will ALWAYS propel them to the top. NONE of them had a SZA. #TDE 🐐👑🥋

[@isaaclouis105]

Yes

[@Chris24799]

Yes, what the hell you talkin about

[@naaimshareef]

Top dog entertainment is better than DEATH ROW RECORDS whatever. Death Row is arguably the greatest hip hop record label of all times, we are all entitle to our opnions- but saying TDE is better than Death Row a legendary icon hip hop record label please. Also to correct the brother Jason Martin Death Row had a five years of ruling and being the most powerful and the most succesful hip hop record label in history from 1992-1996.

[@kizz9391]

@@KingCristoLMAO. There is not enough success on TDE outside of SZA & Kendrick that hold a candle to Death Row.

[@JaHar101]

Off top I can only think of like 4 Death Row Albums that’s are amazing. The chronic Doggystyle Dogg food All Eyez on Me (Let me know me know if I’m forgetting some) Now let’s do TDE GKMC TPAB DAMN Oxymoron Blank Face Blue Lips Control System HERBERT Chasing Summer Redemption The suns tirade THIB SOS Ctrl I can keep going … 90059 Habits & contradictions Cilvia Demo Section.80 MM&TBS Do What Thou Wilt Like what are we talking about. I understand Deathrow has classics but TDE has been putting out amazing bodies of work for like 20 years … I can only name 4 death row albums that I love ..

[@BowersLA]

TDE has the longest run in WC history…. Death Row’s impact is much greater than them. Take away Kendrick, there’s no one that’s had the impact of Dre, Snoop and Pac.

[@Ant_Sherm]

SZA???????? you got teenage white girls fucking with SZA dawg...she may be as big/influential as Kdot if not more.

[@biggerthanhiphop7641]

Tde has no comparison to Deathrow .... the impact was crazy ... the whole world wanted to be them ... Tde is a great consistent label but they do not have that cultural impact ... most current rappers dont even desire to sign with Tde

[@MarkHallOfFame]

I love TDE to Death. Kendrick in my top 3 dead or alive…but Death Row was DIFFERENT!!!

[@AdrienneWSU]

I mean ZERO disrespect to the many very talented TDE Artists, because they are indeed very talented! However, I think TDE gets so much credit primarily because of SZA and Kendrick. And More so Kendrick because they handled SZA horrifically. If Kendrick Lamar was not on TDE, many of the other rappers would not be as successful as they are, and they still aren’t as successful as they deserve to be. I can’t help but wonder if they focused on their money maker primarily, and neglected everyone else. SZA blew all the way up to Whitney Houston type levels once Kendrick was no longer on TDE. Im not saying the artists never had personal struggles that hindered things. But their output rates were unheard of. SZA was spazzing out on Twitter, and Reason was being attacked by TDE President, Moose live on stream!

[@BThatDope]

I think TDE got Death Row beat by classics. Just count the championships

[@K12127]

Like he said 49 and short. There was plenty in the bay. We been always been independent getting that bag up here

[@EBizz85]

40 😂 you accidentally put 49

[@ZoneOne2150]

This dude isssss tripping! Death Row allll damn day!!

[@LilHondaCivic808]

Naw they never made the black hippy album so they ruined it with that 💯

[@jesussinaloa9300]

even removing the record sales, outside of Kendrick...do you honestly believe the roster on TDE impacted the culture like Dr. Dre, Snoop, and Tupac. I would even go as far as to say Suge Knight is more influential than than the rappers on TDE (outside of Kendrick). It's not even close

[@oreo519]

2001 🐐!

[@StefanCirkel]

Top 5 westcoast albums all eyes on me , dogg food , streets is a mutha , cronic, doggys5yle

[@BigDernSr]

I beg to differ, on this side of the map, we only play Kendrick as far as TDE goes. I don't think anyone here knows any other artists or albums. No hate just facts.

[@jallison5457]

It’s Deathrow period.

[@blacckthe1834]

Cube was tryin to push his sons

[@Kayplaya]

2001>Chronic FASHO and I’m with Kev it aged better but Doggystyle best album from Death Row

[@AeonLux_]

Damn even better than Diamond Lane? ◇ C'mon Prob!

[@CuttinHam]

Definitely Diamond Lane Is A Terrible Label or w.e tf it Is

[@AeonLux_]

@@CuttinHam ahem... that's why it's called SARCASM

[@nl5h]

death row woulda been longer without the beef and strife. TDE did it right.

[@altin12]

1 Dr dre - The Chronic 2 Snoop Doggy Dog - doggystlye 3 Above the Rim soundtrack album 4 Dogg Pound - dogg food 5 2Pac All Eyes On Me 6 Makaveli The 7 day theory Get the fuck outta here! DEATHROW 🐐🐐

[@tdslaps]

I can’t name 1 artist on the label this def cap lol.

[@ryancarona4199]

I was confused like is that problem

[@LilHondaCivic808]

9:30 he got that grin becuz it sounds stupid lmao

[@gunrightsmafia9867]

Hell na not better than death row!! They produced a billionaire in dre and a legend in snoop, Lady of rage,Daz and kurupt, dj quik, like na I can say tde is better then death row!!! I think everybody just got a bad taste for suge!!!

[@eastyassyoungbangg]

Death Row had a way bigger impact but TDE did it right

[@VareaIII]

Stop the cap!

[@LamarPierceII]

Tde glizzards

[@obrianthomas3661]

Stop the cap it’s not better than aftermath or death row they up there tho

[@obrianthomas3661]

Death row solder over a 100 million records after math sold over 100 million albums

[@A-Kings-Cut]

TDE >

[@Lilballcstgg]

Lol he trippin best ever cap westside connection is

[@mackstacks8913]

TDE might be the better label/company in terms of their overall talent from production to MCs to singers and songwriters but TDE has never been bigger than Death Row at their peak. Not at any point.

[@Itsjustinmills]

Death row then TDE

[@jamaalneal]

Not even fucking close. 2 pac has outsold TDE whole roster by his self. TDE has the longevity but if we talking numbers an impact DeathRow blows them out the water!!!!!!!

[@chadbutler8634]

😂😂 that an overhyped rapper and a r&b singer but their the greatest ever

[@user-it1uq4iu7r]

Death row the only competition

[@dodgerblue5658]

Death Row > TDE hands down!

[@Ifnotme_thenwho]

Death Row is the biggest

[@48Peri]

Desthrow

[@kekeedordu8422]

nah deathrow is the best black owned label ever .

[@donnellwaters6852]

Stop the CAP…Deathrow is the best ever

[@nickbrakz7913]

This guy cannot be from California talking this bull jive..I a huge kendrick fan, but he’s yet to match pac global influence…Grandmothers in New Delhi know who pac is..Chill with the Cap….

[@BlueJayFromDa9]

Yeah Jason trippin’ on this 1………

[@glenncaradine7655]

Problem wrong Nate Dogg Snoop Pac Daz Kurupt stop it…..

[@user-it1uq4iu7r]

Jason Martin ? That’s problem lol

[@Flashy9824]

😂😂😂😂😂 better than aftermath let’s see Eminem 50 cent game g unit 🤔 nope..better then ruthless nwa Michele doc 🤔 nah better than death row dr Dre snoop dogg pound dj quik Nate dogg jewels 2pac 🤔 hellllllllllllll no!! Kendrick is definitely on pac n cubes tier as goats bit tde don’t have the overall firepower like death row..

[@jesussinaloa9300]

Facts. Outside of Kendrick and Sza, Suge Knight is more famous than TDE's roster and he don't even rap lmao

[@WizDomSon]

2001 is so much better produced than Chronic

[@troyterry3226]

But the chronic has much better song writing.

[@WizDomSon]

@@troyterry3226 That's difficult to contest. I will re listen.

[@Big-tj4cr]

Boi shut up

[@theenlightmentchannel3842]

TDE is celebrating 20yrs with having Kendrick Lamar & Sza being huge artist with no violence or controversy! Jay Rock, Q, & Ab Soul being part of that label! Yes Death Row was great but look how it crashed and burned! Top Dawg and Punch kept that label running for 20yrs!! C’mon

[@jesussinaloa9300]

Take the top 5 artist from TDE (Kendrick, Sza, School Boy Q, Ab Soul, Jay Rock) and compare them to the top 5 Death Row artist (Snoop, Dr. Dre, Tupac, Dogg Pound, Lady of Rage) for sales and cultural impact, it's not even close. 4 out of the 5 death row artist have platinum albums, not just singles....albums. 2Pac has a diamond selling album on Death Row and Snoop was at his prime popularity wise and sold 4 million on Doggy style alone.

[@AdrienneWSU]

I don’t like the way TDE appears to treat their artists. And blames the fans on twitter when sales aren’t what they wanted. Top Dawg and Punch say crazy stuff to fans at times, I don’t like HOW Top Handled GQ magazine after they put Kendrick on the Cover. I also don’t like how that Toronto Artist had to sue Top for his money back for a Kendrick feature he paid for, Kendrick recorded it, but Top wouldn’t release it or return the money because “he felt disrespected.” He had to print a letter to Kendrick in a Canada newspaper. And Sue him. Top didn’t show up in court, which is admitting defeat, and guy won.

[@theenlightmentchannel3842]

@@AdrienneWSU Ok look at all the things Suge Knight & Death Row we’re doing! A 20yrs established and still going. TDE is still here!

[@AdrienneWSU]

@@theenlightmentchannel3842 Oh the heinous criminal activities Deathrow was doing is no match to hardly any other label…ever. Lol. There were other with criminal roots, but not that deep at that time. Young Thugs YSL is similar. But I still think Suge was more feared nationally. Lol…I was just starting some often overlooked flaws that bother me about TDE. Not saying Deathrow was better….and Deathrow is still here. Snoop owns it now.

[@AdrienneWSU]

There has definitely been controversy, not deadly violence with firearms. TDE has been very criticized for how they have treated SZA and Reason especially! And for now allowing artists to consistently drop music and stay relevant. Ab-Soul tried to unalive himself by jumping off of a building, a car broke his fall I believe. Most people believe the true reason Kendrick didn’t release music for 5 years was that he was in contract re-negotiations after winning his Pulitzer, and eventually wanted to leave the label.

[@EddyMorra]

Problem is the most boring west coast rapper ever

[@jasonmartin50m]

@eddymorra I bet ya bitch thinks different

[@andresito619]

Deathrow will forever be the greatest WC record label

[@PalatialSlumlord5183]

Pac only got bigger than he was due to the publicity stunt he pulled on Biggie knowing damn well he didnt have anything to do with him being setup which in fact was dry snitching. His career was average lyke damn near every other rapper until his 4th album All Eyes On Me came out with the hype surrounding it. TDE's run is way better than Death Row's was, ppl tend to get caught up in the moment.

[@Shuvon95]

TDE made better music that mattered.

[@luggerphilippe8409]

Who's the second biggest artist he's speaking of SZA?

[@Shuvon95]

@@luggerphilippe8409 SZA lowkey signed to another label because TDE couldn’t market her really good so Top gave her to RCA but she still their lil sis. I would say schoolboy but crash talk disappointed me.

[@luggerphilippe8409]

@@Shuvon95 Ok but who is he talking of?

[@biggerthanhiphop7641]

Deathrow and aftermath ..people forget easy