Jay Weinberg Explains Shocking Slipknot Firing

[@ChachaChapati]

I feel for the guy. I have no doubt it's money/contract-related. Chris Fehn's firing in 2019 was a sign of things to come for this band/business.

[@ChickenJoe-tq6xd]

Or maybe just maybe other issues similar to why he’s been kicked out of his other bands, you guys here some surface level crap and start assuming everything, can’t even wait until the truth comes out

[@ChachaChapati]

​@@ChickenJoe-tq6xdI know he didn't mesh well in Madball and Against Me, but his tenure in both bands wasn't nearly as long as Slipknot. Maybe like Joey Jordison, we'll never know why.

[@emmanuelcalderon1982]

@@ChickenJoe-tq6xddoubt he would have lasted 10 years if he was the problem

[@MashaT22]

@@emmanuelcalderon1982was about to say the same. Jay wouldn’t last 10 years if he was the issue. He’s def not the issue. They’re dropping members like it’s hot. I also doubt it’s related to contracts and money. Jay would have said that and would have known about negotiations if that were the case. He was blindsided by a damn phone call. After ten years of dedication (according to their own statement), the band should have taken him for a steak dinner at the very least. I’m wondering who made that call. I somehow have a feeling it was done by a manager too and that nobody from the band even had the balls to make that call, let alone face him. He did not deserve to be let go like this.

[@emmanuelcalderon1982]

@@MashaT22 we'll probably never know because the band never explains anything. If Joey didn't speak up before he died we would have never known what happened in that situation. Money is always gonna be what people go to first especially after what happened with Chris.

[@franklyput]

I truly cannot believe that Corey Taylor can have 2 separate side projects, do hundreds of guest spots for other artists, put Slipknot on long hiatuses simply for himself...yet Jay, who took over the role of one of the best metal drummers of all time and grew into his own doing so, can be fired for apparently no reason. I can't imagine he did anything worse than any of those dudes have done. Slipknot isn't a brotherhood or a family. It is the Shawn Crahan and Corey Taylor show. And I certainly hope they fizzle out soon. I think their egos are far too big for the band now. Slipknot died with Paul Gray and Joey Jordison

[@benjaminhould627]

Well said.

[@dypetrod4766]

I'm not a fan of Jay, but you made a very good point. By even Shawn's admission, Corey has been holding the band back more than any of the other members, and this could have been enough reason to let him go long ago, even with the risk of losing his trademark vocals. Cannibal Corpse also took that risk when Chris Barnes started messing up the patterns on the recordings of what came to be the Vile album and when he started holding the band back with the recording process because he was touring with Six Feet Under, and it seems that back then, Chris Barnes had a huge hand in managing the band. The label was pissed off because there was no one else that could sing like Barnes. They took the risk anyway and now Cannibal Corpse is alive and well.

[@brianpinion5844]

all facts !

[@jaynemanning4913]

I see Slipknot ending soon… losing respect for Corey…

[@joelmartin3213]

Maybe Cory needs to be replaceD:)

[@scaranvostok3637]

Losing Paul was a wound. Losing Joey was a paralysis. Losing Chris was the warning. Losing Craig was the death rattle. Losing Jay is the final nail in the coffin.

[@hiroshiwatari4620]

Craig was not fired, he just retired.

[@Youtube-Is-Trash]

Are you illiterate? He never said he was fired.@@hiroshiwatari4620

[@WoockerSocket2]

Yet millions of people will still stream their songs and make them rich! 😂

[@Yokan-]

@@WoockerSocket2and? your point is?

[@887goob3]

Cringe

[@leonshreds]

THEY DID THE SAME THING TO JOEY JORDISON THEY EMAILED HIM WHILE HE WAS IN HOSPITAL FOR HIS NERVE ISSUES DISEASE, IM SORRY I FORGOT WHAT ITS CALLED, RIP LEGEND

[@_lockamy9975]

Joey had Transverse Myelitis. He may have been doing heroine back in the day & the band might’ve been justified for doing what they did, but the band handled it pretty unprofessionally & truly weren’t there for Joey while he suffered

[@airwaydude014]

@@_lockamy9975 Iirc Jim was the only one who visited him in the hospital.

[@PvtAnonymous]

@@airwaydude014 no one knows for sure, but the names thrown in the pit are Jim, Chris and Sid. I honestly think it's Sid. Doesn't really matter though. Talking about brotherhood, but then being neglected by all band members but one, is pretty cruel.

[@Esendor]

I remember reading a biography of the Queen rock band. In the first years (3-6 years) of their activity, Freddie and Brian had health problems, which caused downtime in recording albums and the cancellation of performances. Brian had an ulcer, and then due to gangrene he almost lost his arm. Freddie had ligament inflammation. Then there was another long trial with Trident studio, because of which the group was barely making ends meet due to meager fees. BUT. No one thought of firing anyone, everyone stuck to each other and supported each other, they were like family till the end. What has been happening to Slipknot for the last 13 years is a clear example of how degraded humanity has become.

[@romaretaylor9953]

@@Esendoroh please band members were getting fired over bs since the beginning of time 😂 slipknot are just one target

[@marcosdepaula3593]

letting go of Joey Jordison was controversial as well, it is interesting that the band would speak highly of Joey in the statement about Jay's departure now that Joey is dead. However, in my humble opinion, Joey Jordison was wronged and now Jay Weinberg is being wronged as well, but Jay will rise to the occasion and I am sure he will be highly sought after.

[@lunar_tunes]

The mention of Joey in their statement just feels so unnecessary and manipulative towards us as fans. Not just for the reasons you stated, but also because it seems as if they're actively trying to undermine Jay's contribution and impact on the band. They also know how loved Joey was, and ironically, it seems as if they brought him up in an attempt to soften the blow and overshadow the fact that they did the exact same thing to Jay that they did to Joey. I mean, I guess you could say that they at least had the balls to say something to Jay instead of him finding out via social media like Joey did, but is that really all that much better?

[@BigChieff93]

I don't think that they wanted to believe that he was one of the best drummers of all time and that his contributions to Slipknot helped make it better when he was there (Slipknot was Joey's baby.) I think they thought he would be replaceable and realized as time went on that was not the case, especially after seeing all of the praise from fans and drummers worldwide upon his exit from Slipknot and his passing in life and the comments when new Slipknot was released without Joey. I hate greed and disloyalty. Especially from a band that claimed they were brothers and all that each other had growing up in Des Moines, Iowa. It's painful.

[@quantumangel737]

@@triforcedestroyer5519 It always seemed to me that all the sadness they "showed" about Paul was fake too ( except Joey), I don't know I might be wrong but it always seemed fake and staged.

[@romaretaylor9953]

@@quantumangel737are you serious? In that press statement video from 2010 Corey was bawling like a baby. Numerous occasions he has as a long time fan I’ve seen how close he and Paul were on the dvd’s, interviews, silly footage whatever. This just feels like slander Tryna Say he and clown are evil people when I highly doubt that I’m not happy rn with jays firing either but geez.

[@romaretaylor9953]

@@triforcedestroyer5519 if you look more into Joeys condition at the time he was let go and see how bad he was becoming live it was clear something was wrong. If he stayed longer he would’ve likely played until he gave out, and I don’t rule out his substance issues either

[@philhurley8907]

I've painfully come to terms with the fact that it's absolutely too easy to stop supporting slipknot as a lifelong fan of them. Nothing should of ever made it easy to lose respect for a band that got me through a lot and shaped me as a drummer. But at this point, pull the plug. It stopped being slipknot long ago.

[@mikepalmer1971]

They are the new Kiss. Just a joke of a traveling circus at this point. They have zero integrity.

[@metallicafamily001]

Same here

[@PSYCHOV3N0M]

Should've or should have. NOT should of.

[@philhurley8907]

@@PSYCHOV3N0M thank you so much. How would anyone understand a single word I said without your correction. That being said the only lesson I want from you is the one that teaches me how to get the 2 minutes of my life back it took to type this. Kick rocks

[@pitonto16]

Ego, money and fame have made Slipknot become everything they used to hate and stood against. This is the real embodiment for “you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.”

[@troym856]

Been saying this!

[@Dusty338]

"All the money in the world can't buy me." Those lyrics are a bit hollow nowadays.

[@jonnyf9049]

seems right, thought the same

[@mushy4023]

they should take the barcodes off their outfits now, they became exactly what they stood against.

[@azaz...]

They are a parody band these days, really and truly they should retire

[@Justynbrodsky123]

They fired the last drummer with an email. At least they upgraded this drum firing with a phone call.

[@BxingOT.M]

They did not have the balls to say it to Joey

[@johnmarkgamayot4434]

Maybe the next time they fire a drummer is during their live show. Great upgrade.

[@kingofthetaters4808]

Fuck man idk how they can so easily and unceremoniously drop him. I know we don’t know all the details but Jay just doesn’t seem like the type of guy you’d go out of your way to fire considering how kind he seems and how much of a beast he is on the kit. whoever made this decision (probably clown) is gunna regret this. He wasn’t Joey but dammit he was the closest thing to Joey we could get.

[@titanfighter12]

He's been kicked out of a lot of bands, but Corey and Clown are probably handfuls themselves

[@Pentaclown84]

its cos only corey and shawn are actual members. the rest are interns and payed less

[@ChickenJoe-tq6xd]

Like guy above said, he’s been kicked out of a few bands, you guys here one thing and pretend you know everything, they were probably having issues with him and decided to drop him for the same reason why his other bands did, doing it like this is more respectable then coming out and telling everyone why exactly he’s being booted off

[@ChickenJoe-tq6xd]

He’s a good drummer but he’s no Joey, easily replaceable

[@arkfaks6778]

@@ChickenJoe-tq6xdso why I still don’t see you in a band? It’s not a hate but really he can play Joey’s song pretty good but you call him “easily replaceable” so you mean joey made a shit and easy songs that can be easily played even by 4yo kid?

[@ianhamilton4772]

Thank you Jay for picking up the torch after Joey, and carrying it with talent , dignity, and your own style of drumming that fit , and complimented the band and its unique sound. This sucks bro. Dunno what else to say man. But thank you.

[@robclass7532]

I have completely lost all respect for Shawn and Corey. Glad I got to see them from 99-06 I have seen them twice since then no where the band they were.

[@scale8125]

A little late for that man. You've ignored the times they've kicked out the past 3 members. Why stop now.

[@rodriguezisrelic]

In the interviews with Corey recently, he's said that Shawn is in total control and he just turns up to work. could be true could be bs. plus reckons he has only a few years left in slipknot. maybe its the beginning of the end.

[@Ryo7_7]

I'm starting to feel the same way. Slipknot is now Slipknot Inc. A Vegas casino act.

[@moonbyul873]

Corey is a little insufferable, but he at least contributes to the sound of Slipknot. I think it's 100% shawn. He has too much pull in the band and plays a part that could be deleted and you'd never know it was missing. His power vs contribution is obnoxious. His interviews are cringe. He's pushing 60 and he acts in interviews like an edgey 17 year old.

[@gregoryjames174]

I've never seen them so them changing members doesn't make me not want to see them any less but I did like Jay and he will be missed.

[@thelolguy007]

There are NINE members in Slipknot. Anyone who’s ever been in band, of the usual, 3, 4 or 5 members know how difficult it can be. But Nine members is crazy, very hard to keep everyone happy and content, and very difficult to get everyone to all agree. There could be so many things going on.

[@blue1133]

Thank you. It's nice to see someone offering a possibility that is not outright "Corey and Clown ruined Slipknot because money" (although not gonna lie, I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case after all...)

[@markrushton1516]

There will be one or two who have the say in the band. Like Henley and Frey in the Eagles.

[@proudsaiyanprince2651]

@@blue1133back in 2016, i drove to Des Moines for a hometown Slipknot show. Chilled out by the busses. Met and spoke with Chris, Sid and Jay. Clown and Corey were the only two I saw that refused to speak or even look at fans. After the show, Jim was outside chilling for a bit with fans while Corey immediately jumped into his big Mercedes with his entourage and took off.

[@derochehope]

The way they did that to Jay is messed up.... couldn't even face him person.

[@drok17games]

What's really screwed up is that they did the same to Joey.

[@tw19771]

@@drok17games I'm surprised Jay's lasted this long with how impossible I heard dealing with those guys privately are. They actually did Joey worse. Jay got a phone call, Joey learned that he got fired from some social media post, dude didn't even get a call. I'd consider it as a blessing to Jay, what I think is happening is Shawn's bringing in his son Simon. He's bringing his boy in to shore up his influence over the band. So I'm not even specualating on other drummers. It just seems like "I'm bringing my boy in" play on his part.

[@jeremyhilton6]

They did the same with Joey

[@arkfaks6778]

@@tw19771I really don’t know how his son’s playing but I don’t think he can handle the thing that Joey did😅

[@ShutUpCleanYourMonitor]

it was worse, that was just a text/email if I remember, and they had no clue about his condition, thought he was on drugs etc.@@drok17games

[@speakatron5634]

Jay Weinberg = Class act. Firing your bandmate of 10 years over a phone call = Pure arrogance.

[@straindmind]

It's a corporation, not a band.

[@toddhinmom3090]

Slipknot is a machine. Sometimes parts need replacing. Jay acts shocked but his relationship with other members was strained at best.

[@Grim.Doctor]

Like Linkin Park, more of a brand than a band but worse

[@ville666sora]

This is why I lost interest in Slipknot around the time they fired Joey. I know Joey had health issues but he was still able to drum, but I could also see why they might have chose to let him go. But now there isn't any way people can say this isn't a pattern for them, to fire people for little to no reason just because they feel like it. Corey has seemed to have a massive ego for years now, and it's only gotten worse over the last couple of years. Sad to see.

[@BakuraRy0]

Whatever's happening in the band, we as fans will never get the truth. "Creative differences" is basically "we can find someone who will perform for less money", followed by a middle finger. Clown and Corey, the so-called "de facto leaders" won't say more than that, and Mick, Jim, and Sid never say anything to the press anyway. V-Man won't speak up either, because he might be next, and Pfaff and the other new guy know that it's not their place to say anything. So, silence is all we'll get going forward.

[@alexhollon7526]

I still can't get over how Corey is, legally anyway, considered a "founding member". Buddy, that was Shawn, Paul, and Joey. And they ALL know that.

[@ButtFluster]

Screw slipknot for the way they are behaving. Not because they fired Jay because there HAS to be a legitimate reason. personality clashes, work ethic, talent/ability fading, health are legitimate reasons to fire a band member. But firing over the phone, and not giving the fans a legitimate explanation? Corey is the one always blabbing on interviews and "telling it how it is". Where is he now? F that and F slipknot. People were raging at all those e-goth girls doing tiktok dances to Custer saying it's an insult to the song and the band. F that as well, im going to start doing my own tiktok dances to slipknot now. I'll take them as seriously as they are behaving. Like a whiny entitled pop group.😎😎 Maybe MGK was right when he basically said they are a bunch of whiny man children in masks.

[@BakuraRy0]

​@@alexhollon7526 That's true, but I would guess he got some extra credit for being the front man, so to speak. Although that's just my guess.

[@MHKyo1132]

As much as he isn't a founding member and I understand that, I think it's because his presence and vocals really does have a massive impact to the band. I would say that he probably is the most important member and that's not me saying the rest aren't but the sound would change too much without him

[@Jaxontimothy]

@@MHKyo1132this is all complete facts. There’s a reason they hired Corey to be the new singer. Stone sour was his actual band at the time. Then Slipknot got big he then did stone sour again. Corey is Slipknot wether fans like it or not. You can’t replace his clean vocals and expect the fans to still be there. He’s one of the best metal vox out there. Not just screaming his actual singing voice is just amazing and can pick it out of a lineup of singers. That’s why he can’t be replaced and if they did I know I wouldn’t listen tbh. I thought Paul dying was gonna end them and I’ll always love Paul as the bass player. More than the new guy. Nothing against him just Paul was amazing and one of my faves. As a bass player myself

[@brandonray8409]

Jay was insanely good and no one i thought could hold a candle to joey but jay held his own and completely surprised me! Jay deserved better with this!

[@andrepereira744]

If you feel that way, you will be fine. There are lots of better drummers out there

[@VileSinner666]

It's a shame what happened to Jay. Slipknot lost two incredible drummers. I get why they had to let Joey go. But he got emailed saying he got fired. Now Jay just gets a phone call saying he got let go. This shit ain't right man. Slipknot is going downhill. Gonna be really difficult to have someone fill both drummer's shoes.

[@social191]

Believe me, Slipknot will only get worse. Not that I was ever a fan, but growing up a lot of my friends would always talk about them and say how great of a band they were. 10 years down the line they hate newer stuff.

[@VileSinner666]

@@social191 I loved the Gray Chapter. It felt like a return to form. It felt dark, heavy, and painful. The last two I like. But there's definitely something missing.

[@bazik4]

Whoever takes that spot has gotta have big BALLS, he/she/them/they, better know who the maggots are, because they are not happy right now. That person is going to get dragged through the RINGER FOR A WHILE! GOOD LUCK BUD!

[@twitchiewitch1]

​@bazik4 ... right? But idk what great metal drummer would want to stick their neck out to join a band that fired their last 2 drummers so suddenly & unexpectedly, especially considering 1 of them was a FOUNDER! Who would want to waste their time & add getting kicked out of the worlds biggest metal band to their resume? Someone else here said it 1st & best... "Slipknot is nothing more than the Corey & Clown show now" If they did all this & announce that Clowns son is now the new Slipknot drummer... I won't only not buy anything new from them but I think it wiould be a VERY long time till I even listen to their old shit! It would just pour salt in my disappointment wounds!

[@dcfromthev]

You're saying an email is more personable than a phone call?

[@Jack1999n]

Slipknot's statement still to me seems like the absolute nicest and most professional "thanks, fuck you and have a nice day" I've seen in a long time

[@SHADOWCHASER22]

All hope is gone for slipknot

[@texan_2ocho965]

😂

[@Knailz]

All Band is Gone too.

[@GhostxHours]

Your pfp fits your comment sir.

[@jimjilliker2890]

Hey, That was their last listenable album!

[@d-s_94]

@@jimjilliker2890 The Gray Chapter? WANYK was decent too, not their best but neither was Vol: 3 either

[@CaptainMurphy627]

This is ridiculous, they kicked out Joey over the phone, Corey kicked Jim out of Stone Sour over the phone, they kicked out Chris, Craig is gone, we need an explanation, Corey and Clown have tarnished the name of Slipknot, and its really unfortunate, also, love the KSE shirt

[@Missconduct044]

Joey was an email.

[@andrepereira744]

@@Missconduct044 Much better!

[@ghost_to_a_ghost]

This is exactly what I expected to hear. I love slipknot and have since the first record but Corey and Shawn can get f@!ked. they are making it very hard to be a Slipknot fan these days.

[@irenegriffin3050]

I'm done with them. I can't respect them for doing this. First Craig (did he ever come out and say what happened?) and now Jay.

[@mrshaneyt43]

@@irenegriffin3050I’m with you , like many others they have become a music company and not a band .

[@sammitchell3657]

​@@irenegriffin3050they gave zero explanation on craig. But. The guy never spoke. So.

[@irenegriffin3050]

@@mrshaneyt43 similar to Dream Theater dropping Mike Mangini to take back Mike Portnoy. Yeah, pretty much acting like a company or corporation.

[@irenegriffin3050]

@@sammitchell3657 at least Jay did cause otherwise we would never have known. I gave them the benefit of the doubt at first thinking maybe it was a mutual decision. I'm glad Jay explained the truth.

[@sailaway3930]

You can't compare anyone to Joey he was a pioneer and created a very specific style and sound. Having said that Jay definitely has done a very awesome job of filling some very difficult shows, he has proven himself over and over again. Your right we don't know what happens behind the scenes but what seems as a strong point in Jay's tenure with the group I would hope they have a damn good reason for cutting him loose. I'm betting my left but they don't. It is once again a sad day.

[@rodtaylor5476]

At this point, Corey and Clown need to come clean and own their decision. They owe it to the fans.

[@s70rk]

Large corporate entities don't involve the public in their decisions. They'll act like nothing ever happened.

[@00vulture]

lmao you bet

[@andrepereira744]

At this point , they only cared about fans money.

[@BarnDoor-won5ve]

Don't make the mistake of assuming any of them are in charge of anything. You only stay relevant, wealthy, influential, and powerful in the movie and musical industrial complexes if you stay in line and act your role. Remember, Hollywood and music is all entertainment. Performances. They're all actors that portray whomever their target audience needs them to be to be idolized in order to be the influence on minds of which the people who run the industry need to achieve their agendas

[@proudsaiyanprince2651]

@@BarnDoor-won5veexactly. Did anyone else notice in 2019 Corey jumped on the diversity and inclusion train? The first year of the WANYK tour that all he talked about in interviews. Towing the line like a good little boy.

[@chrisstanley4152]

Being in the band is a business. It looks flashy on the outside but everything that happens behind the scenes is a grind. I remember what Dino Cazares said in an interview, that you all need lawyer’s to protect yourself. It’s such a shame that happened to Jay. Handled poorly and very unprofessional by just giving him a phone call. Whatever issues that existed would have worked out if they had a meeting in person to correct them. Guess more stuff will come out eventually.

[@Themaskplague]

Personally I don’t think there was any issues , nothing that Jay was aware of anyway. Hence him saying the decision blindsided him. It’s just a bizarre decision to fire him. But I guarantee we will never get an answer as to why from the band. Just like we never got one as to why they got rid of Craig either

[@sjmphotonyc]

Not only does everyone love and respect Jay but everyone also loves his dad.

[@Jere-on8dn]

Not surprised, joey was fired via email

[@gmanhirt8818]

This is why I respect Limp Bizkit Same 5 original members What other metal band can claim that

[@darksu6947]

A few years ago I was seriously considering kicking the guitar player out of my one man band, but luckily the singer talked me out of it, so I guess my one man band can claim that!

[@romaretaylor9953]

1) Wes came in and out of limp repeatedly over the years. 2) System of a Down. But no music so what does it really Change for us?

[@Pundit07]

Rammstein. Done

[@schneiderdoom2960]

Ask Dave Mustaine

[@brookeemery9571]

Its probably already been said somewhere in the comments but theres no doubt and i believe that craig saw such things coming. He jumped before the axe could fall on him. Silent and observant is far smarter than loud and outspoken

[@autisticcrusader1915]

I recently left a band I was in for three years. I could never imagine in a million years doing something such as quitting via cellphone or test message.

[@hectorvasquez3605]

I tried to text u bro, you're outta the band!

[@autisticcrusader1915]

@@hectorvasquez3605 :(

[@dumbshuck]

Had that happen to me, and spiraled into depression afterwards

[@zombiespongebob6903]

sticky note pad on the guitar case

[@andrepereira744]

@@hectorvasquez3605 Nice!!

[@johnknouse8846]

In my opinion, it’s been a slow downhill slide since Paul died.

[@Harry-xs1dd]

Yeah slipknot died with him

[@Ryo7_7]

That was a really mature statement and makes the decision look even worse.

[@shepshe66]

Jay came into an almost impossible situation. to replace #1. He could not have done Joey or Slipknot any better and we have come to love Jay. This brings back so many bad feels . I wish you all the best you deserve better. ⚡⚡It's all love from me

[@stevehartke]

Did Jay have a number#?

[@tomrister1873]

Been a drummer for 30 years , I've been let go plenty of times. Most of those bands rarely move forward as the should. The reasons maybe , fritters are the only one to not play a stringed instrument. Drummers are alone till they are gone . Joey was the beginning and the end.

[@alexmarr6131]

It literally doesnt make sense - Jay was the bridge that kept the next generation of Knot fans plugged, he was accessible, humble, an amazing live player and was by all accounts a very proffesional and easy to get along with artist!! Have not heard one negative thing about him at all.

[@Remmy0930]

Haven't heard ONE negative thing? Than you don't know very much of Jay's history lol.

[@danb5944]

The only bad thing I heard was the trans calling him a douce at the beginning..I don't really care about this situation but stuff slipknot I hope there's a huge backlash

[@ironlungs1970]

He is KNOWN for being difficult,that isn't saying he should get fired by phone.Thats cowardly shit right there.

[@davidmaverickmcgarraugh3049]

They're going to need to find an absolutely bad ass drummer in order to keep the hard lined maggots satisfied. Good luck, y'all! I still love f*cking Slipknot btw!

[@TheHodgePod20]

​@@ironlungs1970so a drummer being a drummer?

[@Dusty338]

Here's the thing: We may never know the true reasons for Jay's dismissal and there are always two sides to every story. But whoever manages Slipknot's public relations should also be fired. The social media post was unnecessarily cold to a guy who gave 10 years of his life to the band, regardless of whatever factors led to his firing. And then deleting the post because of the backlash it caused? Not a good look for the Slipknot camp.

[@notsnackbar]

They've done that with any announcement of lineup changes. Post goes up for a few hours, post comes down so people don't all flock to it and cause drama in the comments

[@m4ggo7515]

Craig was fired like 5/6 months ago and we still don't know why, now this?

[@coldblizzard5880]

EXACTLY! Dude it’s like Slipknot is a shell of its former self. Crazy…

[@Nile8765]

@@coldblizzard5880 unfortunately, slipknot is a monopoly for shawn and corey now and thats just straight up sad. What happened to the love and music. Watching clips of them from 1999+ is just sad. THey were a brotherhood.

[@vegastrix]

Craig was not fired he just retired

[@m4ggo7515]

@@vegastrix Slipknot just said they parted ways tho?

[@LithiumBC]

​@@m4ggo7515that doesn't he just didn't retire though, what?

[@frvermusic9665]

Remember when Jay was first hired, Shawn was asked if he'd ever be an equal member and answered something to the effect of "never?" That about sums up the way the new guys will always be treated. They are nothing more than glorified expendable employees. The "band" is just an illusion at this point, it's a business and there's always another guy who will do the job for less. They suck the creative ideas out of them and move on to the next one.

[@headless0ptomist198]

I've been a fan since the MFKR days and I'm usually pretty good at separating the art from the artists but these guys are really pushing it, it's not a band or a brotherhood anymore. It's just a business, if they lose anymore members they should just call it "The Clown and Corey Show featuring. Some masks you like"

[@andrepereira744]

Sure you were

[@vVDrewciferVv]

​@@andrepereira744🥱

[@milhouse777]

I wish luck to the next drummer who takes over in the band, because he will be under a lot of pressure and stress. Jay wasn't Joey, but most Slipknot fans like him because he's always been a die-hard fan of the band.

[@E11-u1n]

Jay was dope gonna miss him

[@rubaidaallen2764]

Awesome. Saw him with the band last year 🔥🔥🔥 They did him real dirty. Best of luck to him.

[@d0n315]

Slipknot is done. I saw them live in 2001 and I’m soooo great full that I saw them with all original members at the pinnacle of their success!

[@romaretaylor9953]

Let me guess Iowa was the last album you liked from them

[@deathbyslipknot]

@@andrepereira744 No. But Iowa is boring now.

[@deathbyslipknot]

ligma@@andrepereira744

[@romaretaylor9953]

@@andrepereira744 I don’t think they have any truly bad albums I’ll say that. But I think we are your your kind is one of their best records currently standing 🤷🏾‍♂️ I’m standing on that

[@Nanno00]

I’m still in shock over this. I honestly think Slipknot has effed up. First with Craig and now with Jay.

[@emmanuelcalderon1982]

What happened to Paul was tragic, but the way they fired Joey was an absolute shock. When they fired Chris that was it for me. This band has no loyalty.

[@vivianaisabelacunasanhueza8848]

😭 jay

[@romaretaylor9953]

@@emmanuelcalderon1982Chris sued them and didn’t even win that case how are you fully on his side?

[@notsnackbar]

​@@romaretaylor9953settled out of court* - he got SOMETHING

[@mattbarker1411]

​@@romaretaylor9953they settled out of court..... that means he was going to win, and the band was trying to save face by not having the details put out via a process called DISCOVERY.

[@russellmcbride1242]

Sometimes rejection is protection. Wishing Jay the best! Rock on!!!🤘

[@Bearlyontime]

Thank you for the solid update, you're the best 👍🏾

[@ApprenticeBailey]

I am gonna go ahead and say that Jay…knows just as much as we do. Simply put, Slipknot is a theatrical band and operates as a business. Clown (Shawn) is the head of the business and decides most of the decisions and choices for the band. I would not be surprised if none of the band members (except Clown) knew about the Hive Mind music video until it was released. Many of the members (Such as Corey and even Jim I believe), have stated that Slipknot is more of a job that they clock in and out of. When they clock out, they go home and rest. I believe Corey has even went on saying that Slipknot is Clowns baby and his thing and that he and clown have barely really communicated to each other for a year or two. That’s what Slipknot is, it is Clowns project. It is his baby. With all of that said, I would not be surprised if Jay knows just as much as we do, and does not know why he is out of the band.

[@andrepereira744]

Acording to his own words, Jay knew as much as the fans. He got phone call and that was it.

[@yellowjacket548]

Someone in that band has become a little overzealous. Like you said, nobody knows the "behind the scenes" story, but it seems to me Jay was doing an outstanding job. Jay will continue to do well in his career. He has time now to explore. I can't wait to see where he ends up. Best of luck Jay!

[@ashcaston2490]

A lot of us grew up listening to Slipknot, their music is a part of our childhood. And now we’re having to watch people we used to look up to, turn into the kind of musicians nobody wants to work with. It’s a shame, Jay is an insanely talented man and class act.

[@soultribe9]

We all wonder how a several-times awarded as the best metal drummer during the last 10 years could be suddenly fired. We all know Jay put all his best energy, passion and love in every hit and he will continue doing it no matter where he goes. Anyway, we will continue supporting and loving Jay.

[@hoxton_hummingbird]

You just answered your own question. He's well awarded, he can use that to negotiate more money..

[@soultribe9]

@@hoxton_hummingbird yeah right, but not everything is about money

[@hoxton_hummingbird]

@@soultribe9 you're talking about a company, not a band here anymore.. And companies are mostly about the money.

[@soultribe9]

@@hoxton_hummingbird no, I'm not. What I mean is about what you said "he can use that to negociate more money". After an episode like this, Maybe he's not thinking about money in the first place.

[@hoxton_hummingbird]

@@soultribe9 sorry, i think we got it confused. What I was trying to imply was that, yes, awards show your skill. So he should know how good a drummer he really is and how much he's worth compared to what they pay him. If they don't want to pay him what he deserves, they either have to let him go or he's got to agree to earn less..

[@chasekemp6915]

You’re awesome dude. Your delivery and dedication are definitely on display

[@SINGHDASLAYA]

I hope that whatever next comes for Jay is a roaring success. It sucks how cutthroat Slipknot have become with even very profitable "employees". Jim, Mick and Sid better get contingency plans put in place.

[@SINGHDASLAYA]

@@triforcedestroyer5519 Corey is soo emotional that all it takes for you to get back into his good graces no matter the bs you put the band through is being the 1st phonecall after a knee surgery. I honestly think that maybe Jim could be next as he did next to no writing for The End So Far as he had a pandemic writers block. I was shocked that the most passive non-offensive member in Craig was booted out a couple months ago.

[@SINGHDASLAYA]

@@triforcedestroyer5519 We still haven't heard about why that change was made so we are all in the dark when it comes to Craig.

[@romaretaylor9953]

⁠​⁠@@triforcedestroyer5519I’m willing to bet money Craig left on his own terms and possibly helped get Zac into his place cause he Was revealed the same day. Craig is so quiet tho it makes sense we don’t hear from him on that.

[@andrepereira744]

@@SINGHDASLAYA And we never will. They almost never said anything about ex-members and when they did, was drama, bs and lies.

[@chadhenry961]

This reminds me of what happened with Mushroomhead several years back when they went through a bunch of sudden lineup changes and former members saying it was due to one founding member, and to a lesser extent his second in command, holding all the power. So some mushroomhead fan' is gonna say Slipknot copied them again

[@demirie385]

I’m pretty sure that I saw a post from Jay saying he was so happy to be a part of the band for 10 years (I think it was the anniversary of his joining) like a week or so before, which makes me feel even worse for him

[@natemartin69]

This might be the best thing for his career, who knows the music he's able to put drums on now. He's free of Slipknot in one light, but is out of his dream job... that's a tough pill to swallow, keep rocking Jay 🤘

[@charlesrocks]

Membership changes??? Dude members have been straight up dying. Slipknot is going the way of KISS. Vegas residency at The Sphere when?

[@gorshok_loshok]

Joey was fired by an email Jay was fired by a phone call Slipknot is NOT evolving

[@d-s_94]

Who would have thought that ultimately, the mask that Shawn wears would be exactly what he became..? 😞

[@tomgreenfan]

me

[@raymondtorres3525]

This breaks my heart 💔 I think jay was the closest we can get to joey.... Joey can never ever be replaced but Joey did a fantastic job and was a maggot just like the rest of us he grew up to listening to Slipknot he will be missed. But as a fan there was no reason for them to fire him ! And evolving is a excuse to fire him us fans have lost Paul and Joey and we can never get them back. This is a sad day keep rocking jay we will be behind you no matter what ! Horns high 🤘😈🤘 damn you Slipknot !!!! 😡😡😡😡😡

[@christianmusician16]

Slipknot really likes to do drummers dirty - something similar happened to Joey in 2013

[@proudsaiyanprince2651]

Imagine you grow up listening to a band, eventually get to become a member and play for a decade. The fans accept you as a real member and you help the band enter a new renaissance era, then they just throw you away like trash. This band used to be cool.

[@AtomicBear18]

IMO Shawn's "artistic" ego and Corey's EVERYTHING ego has screwed everything up. They've corporatized their brand for their own sake's and left their former bandmates and friends, and the fans to feel robbed. .5 The Gray Chapter felt like a healthy step forward and natural evolution of their sound. There is a certain atmosphere or energy that all Slipknot records have had from the very beginning, all the way through .5. I don't know if I am alone in saying this, but it is entirely missing on WANYK and TESF. Perhaps its to do with the lack of the band being in a tough spot mentally, physically, or financially and being able to channel that into their music. I am not saying that they should put themselves in said position. But I believe if keen-eared fans are able to pick up on this, then the band should too and not release half-assed music that's made to bring in more checks. Its not about being less heavy than before. For example: Snuff, Vermillion pt 2, XIX, and Goodbye all have that essential Slipknot mystique, vibe, spirit, what-have-you... Not heavy sonically, but resonate and move something in you in a dark and somber way. Even through the chaos of People = Shit, Disasterpiece, Eyeless, (insert any ridiculously heavy and chaotic track from their first 2 albums), the underlying "Slipknot" SPIRIT remains. Completely gone from every track on WANYK and TESF. My second point is the firing of Jim Root from Stone Sour. How are you going to tell me that Corey had issues with Jim in Stone Sour, but is okay and buddies with him in Slipknot. The group feels like it is being held together by a symbiotic transactional relationship in the form of a paycheck. Its a sad existence that the band has become. Countless listens on all Slipknot records including MFKR, but only 2 for WANYK and one painful listen to TESF. I am sorry for the long winded comment but it was something I have had inside for a long time and this is the perfect place to put it. Last thing: Please tell me I am not alone in this feeling.

[@romaretaylor9953]

Some of what you said I agree with but I don’t get how you are this down on We are not your kind. That album kicked ass and def has that spirit still in the music, Birth of the Cruel, Nero Forte, Red Flag, Solway Firth, A Liars Funeral, Not Long for this World. I’m sorry I can’t co-sign that at all I really like that album. TESF wasn’t great but def can tell it wasn’t baked as long as it should’ve been. Also Jim himself said He and Corey got closer again after he left stone sour (again idk if Corey really was the one who fired him cause Jim also said his attitude at the time likely didn’t help a lot of things)

[@boundbyhonor8382]

anyone else notice the last song Jay posted on his youtube page? it was posted the day before slipknot announced him being fired.

[@ricardobjj24]

Jay was the closest thing to Joe that I've seen. He had that same style and look it's a shame that he's not with them anymore

[@UndercoverNormie]

Yeah, I'm a drummer and a big Jordison fan and I was always extremely impressed with Jay. This is a big loss that was done in a cold and disgusting way. Hard to find any excuse to behave that way towards someone a decade on in the band. I've been pretty disinterested in their new music for a long time but damn.

[@a1m4thah3d]

"If you're 555 then I'm....555 too". Its not about the music anymore, its about a franchise. I totally expect Shaun's son to take on drum duty for Slipknot. I remember seeing an interview a while back where they'd like the band to continue even if there were no original members left and I THINK they joked about even having their kids replace them or something. Corey's already said he might have 5 years left in him. How much you want to bet he gets HIS kid to replace him? Honestly though, I'm done with Slipknot. I couldn't even get through their last album without skipping through every song.

[@dostwood5103]

I only got into Slipknot a few months ago in the Summer and have listened to all their albums… and I’m kinda with ya. Their last album sucked. The only person I’d be okay with replacing Corey is if they brought Anders back. He recent did the Mate. Feed. Kill. Repeat tour, after all. Would be perfectly full circle.

[@delix787]

Joey got an email, Jay got a phone call. Who’s gonna be next? will it be by an envelope? 💀

[@ThomasHFirearmland]

Carrier pigeon for sure

[@manifestationsofasort]

Slipknot is trying their damned hardest to make being a Slipknot fan as difficult as possible. I honestly don't care about who the next drummer will be, I just want to know the WHOLE story, no lies or PR statements.

[@twitchiewitch1]

I understand your allegiance to Slipknot bcuz I feel that way about Manson. He got me thru the worst times in my life & hung the moon as far as I'm concerned. I myself have LOVED Slipknot through the yrs & their shows are AMAZING! BUT... I just can't go thru this again w them. Firing Joey the way they did & how they did was bad enough but like a bad or toxic relationship & bcuz Jay was such a good replacement... I forgave them despite the animosity I still felt deep down & the pain I felt for Joey, but THIS... this is like a verbally abusive relationship that just stepped way over the line & punched me in the face! I have lost faith that our relationship could ever be the same or whole again. 1 of my ,NO...my very 1st favorite metal bands as a kid, my introduction to metal at about 12 yrs old was Metallica (Ride the Lightning) I grew up w them & branched out to other same genre bands... but Metallica always had the special place of being my 1st! I've seen them 12-15 times live & from the Black album on they became more & more "corporate-ee" more & more of a brand & commodity then the hard hitting face melting metal God's that they were, their music reflected it & I stopped listening. This is how I am starting to feel about Slipknot! We aren't "the Slipknot Fam" anymore. There was nothing broken w Jay, we LOVED him & he did a lot more than "honored" Joeys spirit & style. This just feels so wrong of them, they not only broke Jays heart but mine too & I can see I'm far from alone in this opinion. BOOOOOO Corey & Clown! BOO! BOO! BOOOOO!

[@EnvxyOnHigh]

Unfortunately,if Simon crahan joins slipknot it’s a shit move getting rid of a perfectly good drummer just so you could get your son in and griffin Taylor even said he wanted to start something different with Simon so I don’t think that’s gonna happen

[@nwerd7584]

Thats what nepotism is, and anyone with power seems to exploit it.

[@MykytaStasevych]

Ngl I cannot feel that bad for Jay considering him leaving his prev band the same way. He just left saying nothing trading them for Slipknot. He got what he deserved

[@andrewvanhalen1984]

The last Slipknot album I bought was .5 the Grey Chapter. And it will remain the last album I ever buy from this band.

[@stormnoiseeffects2664]

Damn, the thumbnail seemed like there was an interview with him. Feels pretty sleazy.

[@Brandon-eq7hk]

If he had no idea that this was coming then that is really messed up. It means the rest of the band was two facing him and being cool to his face while plotting the end of his career. That is not how a band is supposed to work. You know, family, brotherhood, Communication? This sounds more like a cutthroat business decision. Whats weird is this happens with all bands with a costume gimmick. Mushroomhead and Ghost are good examples of revolving door bands.

[@andrepereira744]

Nonsense. this happens all the time with all types of bands.

[@dapaintbrush6965]

I was so pissed when I found out about Jay not being apart of slipknot anymore. So happy I got to see him play at download this year. Hopefully you create your own or become a new mamber in other band. ❤️❤️🔥🔥

[@demongrunt7]

Maggot since I was 10, I’m 33! Very sad to see Slipknot dissolve Corey and clown seem to be removing everyone. It will be disgusting when Sid, mick and Jim are kicked like what they did to Chris, Craig and now jay!

[@Missconduct044]

At this point I want jim, mick and sid to leave, collect the other members and create a new band called “untied” or “origi-knot” just to spite Corey and Clown. I mean, we’re almost there right? U can get Anders the og singer, Chris, Craig and Jay.

[@Mike-su2xg]

I know for a fact, that slipknot has been taking a huge dump on their fans for a while now. They are not only losing an amazing monster on the drums, but have already lost the love and respect from thousands of fans.

[@alexhollon7526]

I love how people are only now saying "hey, something is up..." Buddy if these alarms didn't go off as soon as Chris was gone, hell since Joey was gone because of how it was handled, even with the substance abuse in mind, I don't know what to tell you.

[@andrepereira744]

Exactly! Its the FANatism talking

[@DedgyVanced]

This sends a very alarming message to potential new drummers when you think about it

[@drewb007]

Absolutely. I mean, there are still plenty of people who would take the gig if offered, but they at least know now that they are entering into a band too cowardly to have a face-to-face convo when it comes to changes. What they did to Jay is one thing, but the way they did it is classless cowardice.

[@Missconduct044]

@@drewb007Well if ur daddy is an og member of the band you’ll have nothing to worry about. Wait for it….clowns kid is going to be the new drummer. 😐

[@DedgyVanced]

@@Missconduct044 doubt it, but we'll see

[@drewb007]

@@Missconduct044 We're all waiting and if that's the case then it's not about whether they have the right to do that (they do... It's their band) but more about the fact that they would have lied to their fans and most of all; Jay. If they want to go that route, they should have just said so...No need to posture about creative choices and all that shit. Should be interesting.

[@Missconduct044]

@@drewb007 When have they ever gone the right way about “removing” a member? I feel like they’ve been trying to prep everyone for this for awhile now. Saying moronic crap like slipknot is an entity and it doesn’t matter whose in the masks. Pretending like ppl would pay headliner prices to see a slipknot cover band. Insane to see how disconnected from reality corey and clown are.

[@groovelife415]

Slipknot is all ego and money now. The original members are total divas. It's obvious from their statement that they never considered Jay a member. I believe the nice comment they made about Joey wasn't actually aimed at Joey, it was meant to be an insult to Jay. They did Joey dirty and trashed him in the media after they fired him too.

[@vilespecter]

They literally pulled a Joey Jordison on Joey Jordison's replacement.

[@justxull9278]

I dont see why we need to know the reason. But Jay 100% does deserve to know

[@neotheone6796]

Slipknot is from my home town been going to their shows before anyone knew who tf they was small bars in the 90’s and I’m ashamed they why they dismissed him like that. He literally breathed new life into them kept them going livin his dream and they straight up booted his azz.. The only respectable replacement in my opinion is Shawns son Still didn’t have to do Jay like that

[@derochehope]

Shoot and they even fired Joey by email.

[@erronblack6763]

Shawns son? Lmao you just wanna see clown take it all don’t you?

[@neotheone6796]

@@erronblack6763 I legitimately see that as a beautiful thing being a father myself seems like a pass the torch type thing But didn’t have to do Jay like that

[@nwerd7584]

@@neotheone6796 thats called NEPOTISM.

[@OiAvogadro]

@@neotheone6796 Shawns son will never see the light of day in Slipknot. He's got his own thing & that's how it should stay, period. For the good of both parties. Would be way too gimmicky, and would turn a serious amount of fans away, especially how they've treated Jay & everyone else. I've always been wary of Slipknot ever since Jordison was "fired/left/fired/left/fired/etc etc" and how he was treated until his death - are you beginning to see the pattern here? The band doesn't have as much respect for the fans or their "members" EMPLOYEES cough - as they claim to do so, not anymore at least. And secondly I'm not sure a 19 year old wants to be out on tour/recording with people nearly 3x his age, as good as an opportunity it is. This whole situation is nonsense and it's the final nail for me personally, I'll watch on from a distance but I won't be investing myself as much as I used to. This band is a hollow shell of it's former self.

[@michaelenechase]

At least he got a phone call. Joey didn't even get that....

[@s0ccer96]

This just pisses me off. How t’f do you fire a band member over the damn phone?!

[@INDRIDCOLD83]

Because Cory and Clown are cowards.

[@ZackGriser]

Well Joey was emailed when he was fired. What's your point?

[@veronicadavanzo2064]

I wonder how they treated him at his last show knowing that they were going to fire him two days later. Smh

[@irenegriffin3050]

This is sad! So damn cold! Fuck the band, I'm following whatever project he goes to next. It's not like he couldn't play or that he wasn't working hard enough to warrant just getting dropped like that. I can't respect a band that is willing to do that to someone.

[@trisharoot501]

Jay is totally amazing and I was beyond impressed when he stepped in the big shoes and high bar that Joey J created. Jay had the stamina, skill and his attitude totally fit the band. Devastating events often have a silver lining and one day it will make sense. I can't wait to see what the future has to hold for Jay . Same for slipknot ofcourse.

[@medicman5278]

On face value this is a total classless act by Slipknot. Jay was a perfect fit and filled the huge shoes of Joey. They rewarded his total commitment to the band by firing him with phone call? What cowards! Rock on Jay! The fans love you!

[@OiAvogadro]

I'm sorry but Shawn's son will never see the light of day in Slipknot. He's got his own thing & that's how it should stay, period. For the good of both parties. Would be way too gimmicky, and would turn a serious amount of fans away, especially how they've treated Jay & everyone else. I've always been wary of Slipknot ever since Jordison was "fired/left/fired/left/fired/etc etc" and how he was treated until his death - are you beginning to see the pattern here? The band doesn't have as much respect for the fans or their "members" EMPLOYEES cough - as they claim to do so, not anymore at least. And secondly I'm not sure a 19 year old wants to be out on tour/recording with people nearly 3x his age, as good as an opportunity it is. This whole situation is nonsense and it's the final nail for me personally, I'll watch on from a distance but I won't be investing myself as much as I used to. This band is a hollow shell of it's former self, literally.

[@willk.illyouii5583]

I recall them doing the exact same thing to another drummer they fired... god speed joey.🤘

[@wolfgangfegelein2450]

It's just sad what Corey and Clown have become.

[@ZackGriser]

They've already made their mark in the industry, so whatever happens happens. I will always be loyal no matter what

[@JamieDrumz]

Thank you very much for such a professional, slick, clean and direct, informative video

[@pigxstix]

I get that they might have their reasons to do this, fine. It's there business. But what's f*ked up is to blindside the guy and just leave him there holding his bleeding ass and scratching his head wondering WTF just happened. That's not good business. That's not good manners. That's just sh*tty. He, or fans, may agree or disagree with it and that's fine but there should be no confusion over it. The guy should have the respect of clarity.

[@dustinshaver3173]

Look at what they did to joey ! Are we really surprised they did this to Jay !

[@mikehunt3668]

Im a bit ashamed of this community. No one knows in detail what is going on but all i can see in every feed going is speculation and rumours. They hear one thing and then go on like they know everything. All in all be respectful guys. I get it, we’re all in the dark but this is just plain stupid what you’re all doing. I just wish all the best for Jay and hope that he will do well for himself in the future. With talent like his i have no doubt that this isn’t the end for him.

[@danielwieten8617]

People are mentioning Mangini as a joke because he was let go from Dream Theater. There’s no way he could play those parts. At least not with any proper conviction

[@sorin_ea6]

He could, he is technically superior to most drummers out there even at 60. The guy is definitely not the fit for Slipknot though.

[@Nurgles_Rot_]

Yeah I can't see him at 60+ running these parts in a mask...you trying to kill this guy? 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@tmurra2]

I was fired from my dream job 2 years ago in the same fashion that Jay was let go. I know exactly how he feels. My boss called me on the phone and said "as of tomorrow you no longer work for", us after 19 years. It's like a death! An extreme insult!

[@enjoyerofsilence]

Evolving? He is a drummer. What do they need to create that would require them to remove a drummer?

[@MR.PRESIDENTOFFICIAL]

lol exactly...

[@sonnyford2407]

How in the world does Clown look at all 9 members of this band and think JAY is the weak link

[@zerofayt6107]

Corey and Shawn seem to be turning into gene and paul.