Jay-Z Is A Better Lyricist Than 2Pac. I Put 2Pac In A Class Of His Own. He’s In His Own Category.

Styles P on Jay-Z being ranked higher than Tupac on Billboard's Top 50 Rappers of all-time list.

[@micahwest2793]

The thing people never take into consideration is Tupac wasn't trying to make his lyrics crazy lyrical. He was speaking to the kids in the ghetto. He wasn't trying to do all kinds of crazy metaphors and double or triple entendre. Because he wasn't trying to have people miss his message.

[@datniggaeazye.5968]

They do take it into consideration which is why the general opinion's that Hov's a better technical lyricist but Pac really moved people and is the GOAT

[@LARK-ht7kd]

@@datniggaeazye.5968 Sorry pac is nowhere near GOAT

[@nivek1660]

Ray Love was helping to write his raps but yea Jay is a fraud too just like Biggie

[@Iknowyoumadnow]

Cause it took hard work to do it, he'll NEVER be on Big L's level

[@onlyJCknows]

Well put

[@StyleOverPolitics]

Jay can spit 16 bars that cant move me at all while Pac can spit one bar that can move the world

[@juliusjujusurratt9568]

Sipping gin before I get to sinning on them brothers empty my clip pass by like he didn't know me everybody ducking my lil homies

[@rnbw_artz]

Stg, I cant listen to even Dear Mama with out ballin my eyes out. Yes, I lost my mother but that song is powerful. Brenda's got a baby. A true story he told where as niggas be making up tragedy. Good point you raised here!

[@StyleOverPolitics]

@@rnbw_artz listen to unconditional love always hits different when times feel hopeless

[@rnbw_artz]

@@StyleOverPolitics 👍🏾 ILL DEFLY CHECK IT OUT

[@justincoffey2692]

My dude this comment right here is complete 🔥 💯💯💯💯 Straight facts

[@aftabbashir4924]

Dont really care if Pac was lyrical or not, man got me bopping to his music more than any other rapper.

[@donaldb93]

PAC words moved the world and he was a poet he was definitely a lyricist just wasn’t the best technical rapper he’s not my favorite but he’s the greatest styles broke it down great

[@oragbaikechukwu7458]

Pac was so lyrical

[@newemoboy1]

Me against the world is very lyrical

[@crews-lj3ph]

​@@newemoboy1 straight facts 💯

[@EazyRocko]

​@@oragbaikechukwu7458 name a Tupac bar that made you go "ooohhh" or made you pause the song

[@KP43-08]

Pac ain’t care about being the best lyricist he just cared about getting his message across and understood 💯

[@fortyglock9698]

And he suceeded😌

[@TheRevolutionary222]

@@fortyglock9698In Just 4 Years 🙏🏾

[@ArtificialIntelligenceSound]

He is one of the greatest lyricists.

[@KP43-08]

@@ArtificialIntelligenceSound wasn’t really his style but certain songs he was really lyrical I agree if he focused more on being lyricist but it doesn’t really matter he was really impactful he was more of a poet but he definitely was lyrical when he was ready🔥🐐

[@ArtificialIntelligenceSound]

@@KP43-08 This is the definition a lyricists. Dictionary Definitions from Oxford Languages · Learn more noun noun: lyricism an artist's expression of emotion in an imaginative and beautiful way; the quality of being lyrical. That is 2pac to the core. What you talking about is technical skills. Which NY rappers back in the day were good at. Dear Mama wasn't technically written but every word connects and it affects the listener emotionally. 2pac is one of the greatest lyricists ever.

[@SwishhGYDS]

No one pour the heart into they lyrics like 2Pac definitely one of a kind

[@JuwanAnderson58]

@Aaron Roberto 😂😂😂 crying more in other people’s comments? 🤡🤡🤡🤡 goat got you triggered

[@marxman300]

​@Aaron Roberto ok boomer

[@buddharp]

"I find it hard to give a F about strangers opinion" Styles P

[@RudolphManor]

Indifference. 💯

[@flying-fijiantv6282]

Pacs music was emotions. He had songs for every emotion and that’s what makes him relevant because we all go through emotions. He touched on things about the community, rape, jail time, losing homies, standing up for women, feeling like “fuck the world”, death, life, partying, drinking, smokin, etc.

[@qqaanon]

Tupac is the only rapper that I know that rapped about smoking roaches. And you can always tell if somebody listen to parking lot when they bring up his music most of the time to bring up hit em up. They never bring up all of the conscious music that he did when he was on death row because he still made conscious music

[@herivaldoagostinho1694]

Pac is poet

[@kingblack3378]

PAC was definitely a lyricist people love to act like pac ain’t give folks bars. But overall pac care about the message and how he delivered it . PAC bars was straight up where you didn’t need to go grab a dictionary to understand what he was saying. PAC moved people and his message was heard and 26+ years later he’s still the topic of conversation. Now that’s legendary. #Classofhisown 🐐

[@brickcityhoodaville5891]

King Black Str8 Facts

[@nivek1660]

The nigga didn’t always write his own lyrics

[@juliusjujusurratt9568]

💯

[@micahwest2793]

Exactly

[@mediacommunications5112]

He ain’t have no bars

[@treyvonwilliams]

Sorry but jay z is not better that 2pac.

[@dn30001]

as long as you rank Pac over Em....I'm good with that

[@dn30001]

@@ijumpjudy he gained points with me when he shot those 2 white off duty cops. But im sure you probably thought he coulda did better.

[@ILoveTheAllCreator]

​@@dn30001 Thanks, as much those pac stans are annoying. I detest theose em stans. 😂

[@columbusohio72]

Facts

[@reemholden9645]

Never. Jay bit other ppl lyrics, hated on plenty rappers ( such as biggie, DMX, and big L) etc. He lived vicariously through DeHaven. And PAC dissed him and he said nothing. Mr Lyrical huh? Nah, PAC had a lot of hate from mad New Yorkers as well. His own hometown.

[@vintagedaz]

2Pac didn’t care about lyrics. He wanted to get straight to the point.

[@juliusjujusurratt9568]

Facts 👌 and his projects grew as time went on.

[@nivek1660]

Yea he didn’t care about lyrics. That’s why other Niggas wrote for him on some songs lol

[@lubui2583]

thats kind of the point 😂

[@lubui2583]

@@fruitpac because if u like someone over pac u are a hater. its CRAZY!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@juliusjujusurratt9568]

@@fruitpac when you write bars they're often called lyrics.... And pacs case it was more poetry than anything. He wasn't trying to make a song he was just trying to get out his feelings

[@shannawaller]

NY rappers Always hate on PAC. That’s cute. He was a poet. A lot of rappers are poets. He wasn’t a superior lyricist no but guess what none of them can mess with any of his work. None! That’s his opinion I guess.

[@90svintageflava36]

This video wasn’t hate. He praised Tupac the whole damn video!

[@kent1391]

Lyrically pac was 🗑️

[@jgood4010]

I'm from Cali born and raised of you just talking lyrics Pac wasn't the best he is right but the whole package made him the best rapper to most folks

[@alisalittle817]

Quite opposite, any hate on NY rappers and Singers too. Look how NY rappers were swayed today?! There was a poll, WuTang vs 36 Mafia . South and wherever really promoted hate for women and the love of alcoholism and Substance Abuse to the till. NY more conscious than - and not to mention SWAGG! I mean dapper Dan?

[@chrisd7993]

​@@kent1391 then you dont know lyrics

[@SevenKeys25]

Why is it so hard to comprehend that Pac is not a rapper that spits filler? just saying a bunch of rhyming words is easy to do. But to convey our struggle is poetry. Whatever Pac utter meant something he was the perfect blend of A New York born and California transplant with the privilege to experience different environments and articulate them to everyone not just a certain region but every region. If you sit back and really listen to his voice and no filler raps he make other artist sound immature. Big a goat too but the range of Pac is worldwide.

[@Iknowyoumadnow]

And that's why Big was better

[@SevenKeys25]

@@Iknowyoumadnow Aye Man U entitled to your opinion bruh. The point of your statement is to bait and cause confusion. Yet my comment never said who is better don’t care.

[@Iknowyoumadnow]

@@SevenKeys25 LOOKS LIKE IT WORKED DIDN'T IT BITCH BOY!?? You even said it YOURSELF that he ain't lyrical, FOH BIPOLAR BOY

[@jeanpayano1506]

You will never be considered a great lyricist for just putting in fillers is the word play combined with that story telling that separates a good rapper from a great one

[@UrbanAlchemystic]

Well said and those different environments also include Baltimore Maryland as well don't forget😊 not everybody can come from his background and be able to come up with that. The people that are criticizing him were born and raised in one place so they had to follow the lyrical politics of that area (also having local support as an advantage) but for Pac he bounced around and he was able to put his experiences all into one thing not a lot of people can execute that perfectly as he did. I believe that's what made him stand out how adaptable he was because of him moving around a lot. He went his own way

[@izaiahjohnson9236]

Tupac definitely in his own class

[@pasthuman]

Pac had that Malcom X cadence in his delivery

[@juliusjujusurratt9568]

I love that song where you been

[@erfbgu2643]

More of a MLK cadence/but more Malcolm with the message

[@jazo85]

Wtf.. you must have never heard Malcolm x speak , or you don’t know what cadence means

[@godzjewlz5245]

​@@erfbgu2643 🎯

[@ijumpjudy9830]

@@ijumpjudy 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Malcom X and Orlando are both in the Death Index. 2pac isn't while you on my 🍆

[@dalkurd1]

Poet, rapper, actor, activist. Pac spoke up against the powers that be, unlike todays rappers. Stockholm, Sweden 🇸🇪

[@juliusjujusurratt9568]

I like pac raps better because they came from a place where most people don't take their head at

[@aermax7321]

..💯

[@nivek1660]

Also add homosexual and government plant to Pac’s description

[@TClint850]

@@nivek1660 🥶🧊!!!

[@illmatic9096]

​@nivek1660 all find every reason to hate on pac. Now he an agent and government plant and also homesexual??? Stop with the reaching

[@stephencox8723]

Tracks like Blasphemy, and Me & My Girlfriend are two amazing tracks that show pac's skill as a lyricist. Almost every line in both those songs were double entendres (there's at least 1 triple entendre in each of those that i've picked up on so far). Pac was definitely an extremely skilled lyricist. He just only showed that side of himself 20% of the time. You have to dig through his deep cuts to figure that out. He tends to get underrated for his skills on the mic because all his hits are the tracks where he's tryna be direct.

[@nivek1660]

Me and my girlfriend, another track someone wrote for him. Lesane Crooks was a fraud

[@apuertorican1773]

@@nivek1660 lay off the drugs

[@MansaX]

Blasphemy gets played everyday. Makaveli is shitting on 99% of the garbage coming out today

[@nivek1660]

@@apuertorican1773 Sorry I hurt your feelings because I revealed your idol didn’t write his own raps. Stop idol worshiping. Just ask Ray Love if Pac was the greatest rapper. He used Ray Loves throwaway raps. I’m armed with truth. You emotional and can’t accept your idol was a fraud

[@fredbjamz4956]

That particular album showed how lyrical Pac could be and I feel it was only the beginning

[@arnel925]

Pac lyrics came from his soul. Jay lyrics came from his brain. When u listen to Pac u could cry or ride or die. Cause his lyrics came from the soul.

[@W4R_pOP3._718]

GUY THERE'S ONLY THE SPIRIT/SOUL ; EVERYTHING COMES FROM ONE PLACE . WHAT U HAVE IS DIFFERENCES IN TYPES OF SPIRITS/SOULS .

[@0003-t6x]

Because Tupac has charisma and is authentic. Jay z isn’t

[@edwardnewsome7200]

“I find it hard to give a F about strangers’ opinions.”

[@jaedot5071]

Pac was more about the message than the art of putting words together. Words could sound good together on a beat but the message be watered down or lost for most rappers

[@canadaman3]

This dude nailed it

[@kelvinmustafa2710]

No he didn’t

[@jackjill8129]

​@@kelvinmustafa2710 he kinda did. Basically everyone got their own opinion.

[@Troi-Anthoni23]

Spot on! 🎯🎯🎯

[@dantheman4838]

I love Styles but I disagree. You can't be a better lyricist unless your lyrical content is superior. Jay's lyrical content is nowhere near Tupac's.

[@Troi-Anthoni23]

@@dantheman4838 Pac's wordplay and metaphors were nowhere near Jay's. Pac was not a lyricist. Yes he made heartfelt music, but so did Whitney Houston lol. If they both battled acapella in a battle rap arena Pac wouldn't shake the room with his bars. That's where their skill set differs. When talking the "sport" of rap, Jay is better. Pac is more a poet 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@KingofNewYorkkk]

DMX and 2Pac are in the same category

[@dalkurd1]

Jay-Z dropped his first album the year he turned 27. Pac passed away at 25

[@rasulsamad5860]

And???

[@juliusjujusurratt9568]

How you going to be Hawaiian Sophie Fame 😂 I love all out

[@Dice-Gamble]

@@rasulsamad5860 don't say "and" like amounting all the lyrics and content he created by 25 wasn't an incredible feat.

[@thecunninlynguist]

​@@juliusjujusurratt9568with Hawaiian Sophie fame kept my name in his music

[@rasulsamad5860]

@Dice G absolutely but stop being a fangeek. Jay-Z broke thru later...and still striving and I prefer pac over Jay-Z

[@davidpeaston8443]

Tupac had lyrics and he had great play on words. And on Makavelli you can tell that he was about to really take it there. Jay Z has a different delivery which makes for different styles. And he may be a more meticulous lyricist than Pac but not necessarily a better one. Pac definitely made you feel him emotionally whereas Jay makes you wanna be cool and head bob a little bit. Both deserve their own spaces.

[@nivek1660]

Tupac didn’t always write his own lyrics

[@juliusjujusurratt9568]

​@@nivek1660...... Didn't always write his own lyrics are you crazy.... Only lyrics he got from somebody was Ray luv for trapped. Tupac has actually wrote lyrics for others. That didn't have their lyrics right before it was time to do the song

[@miclag8701]

Well said David Peaston

[@nivek1660]

There were other tracks Stan, others wrote for him. He’s not in consideration for best lyricists if other niggas penning your raps.

[@BackFatPat]

We’ll said..I couldn’t agree more..

[@siphamandlasithole3243]

Whether Pac was a Great Lyricist or not, he touched Millions of People around the Globe with his Music. There's no Rapper that has ever done that & no Rapper would ever do that in the next 100 Years or so. That's why he's still talked about till this day & will still be talked about in the next 100 Years. LEGEND👏

[@donaldb93]

He was definitely a lyricist just wasn’t the best technical rapper but his words moved ppl if you’re saying a lot of nothing I don’t care how good you rap you aren’t a lyricist if your words don’t move ppl or bring out emotion

[@solitudeisbliss1234]

Being super technical and lyircal is just one aspect of rap. That is what people dont understand. Rappers have their own style and strengths. Pac wasn't trying to be super techinal like nas or eminem lol. What pac mastered was delievery and flow. He had such a unique melodic flow and amazing delivery. You felt what he was saying when he was roaring on a track. Dmx had that and Scarface has that too. Not everyone has to be super techinal lol.

[@UrbanAlchemystic]

Well said it's simply a matter of preference and it adds more variety to the genre some are four bars some are for entertainment or to invoke some type of socially conscious emotion Etc hip-hop is a layered onion I wish people can see it more that way

[@d12cov38]

Pac rapped the way he wanted to rap, people act like he wanted to rap a certain way but couldnt, he knew his lyrics meant something that's why there was clarity

[@jeanpayano1506]

The thing is that you could have both Biggie had the lyricism the flow, cadence and the voice Pac gets elevated alot because of factors unrelated to rap music and im not saying he is trash either

[@ashokathegreat4534]

Jay z is so great lyrically that he cant even rhyme hahaha

[@stephencox8723]

@@mondee5758 that’s not fair to say he lacked in skillset at all. Listen to wherever u r with him and big daddy Kane or tracks like the lunatic on his first album if I die 2nite, bomb first, heartz of men, can’t c me, deadly combination, I got my mind made up, 5 deadly venoms, and a bunch more. if you’re not familiar with pac’s deep cuts it’s easy to make the mistake that he wasn’t technically skilled.

[@caine17ful]

Mofos love saying that but I never felt Hov"s shit like I felt Pac's period.....

[@thecunninlynguist]

Pac had more emotion in his lyrics. He and x were powerful like that. They didn't need to be on some lyrical miracle steez

[@juliusjujusurratt9568]

Funny how you mention X... x always cited Pac one of his favorites. He was an inspiration on trying to help children

[@nivek1660]

Pac was a trained actor but you can’t be in best rapper convo if other Niggas penning your raps

[@thecunninlynguist]

​@@juliusjujusurratt9568yeah. I miss both pac and x.

[@casiemny1219]

So then you agree with what Styles said lol

[@terrelltrammer5787]

Pac was doing 3 or 4 songs a day. You cant focus on tryna be super lyrical putting out that much music. I think he was focused on the emotion of it and the message. The way he dropped and rode the beat was good enough.

[@PR-WAY]

Hold Ya Head, Ambitionz Az Ridah, Ballad Of A Dead Souldier, Holla At Me, Hearts Of Men, When Thugs Cry OG the list goes on theres to many to name hes got nothing but hits, His lyrics a unmatched to me plus his voice is God like you can feel it

[@Bidness100]

💯

[@JonJon-co3zj]

Also never forget dear mama

[@anybodycangetit8359]

Kiluminati, lil homies, this aint livin, fvck all yall, definition of a thug, reincarnated, 16 on deathrow, i wonder if heaven got a ghetto. I can go on wanna see.

[@_unclecharles_]

i think this is a very good take. if we talking lyrical abilty no pac is not better than Jay-Z but the thing Pac had that Jay lacks was his ability to evoke feelings from listeners. you can listen to Jay and just be impressed by what he said but u listen to Pac and he might not say anything intricate but you definitely felt something. he rapped with a passion that u couldn't ignore

[@antoniomaxwell1698]

Agree on that

[@daweeza42]

The funny thing is some people will say Jay isn’t lyrical compared to Nas. I honestly think Pac, Jay, and Nas are all lyrical in there own right. Clearly they all have different styles, but when some people act like Pac ain’t lyrical it’s crazy to me.

[@TrevorJacksonTV]

Facts

[@d12cov38]

Greatness is measured by impact, Pac is great, the lyrical shit is brought up by new york people in trying to take away from Pac greatness.

[@jundean5292]

Eminem better than Jay lyrically so lyrics alone dont make Jay higher than Pac on the list

[@mspennyisaac]

I definitely didn’t care about the list or that Jay Z was ranked ahead of Tupac. I can relate to Styles saying that he doesn’t care if someone else believes their favorite rapper is better because I’m so confident in mine. But literally nobody will ever compare to Pac. 🤷🏾‍♀️🐐

[@juliusjujusurratt9568]

Jay-Z was more of the mafioso life ..... 2pac was speaking on topics that were affecting the world

[@jallison5457]

Lyrics catch the ear, them real words catch the soul, it’s the stuff you can relate to that put certain rappers high on peoples list. That’s why Pac and DMX get looked at differently than other rappers.

[@jackjill8129]

Exactly that's what it comes down to. You can be the best lyrical miracle rapper ever but if you don't know how to deliver what you're saying then it doesn't matter.

[@_nom_]

But tbh, Pac was a better lyracist. 2Pacalpse now and a bunch of his unreleased stuff is super incredible.

[@diz354]

Lyrical - (of literature, art, or music) expressing the writer's emotions in an imaginative and beautiful way. By the definition, 2Pac is not only a lyricist, he’s one of the best!

[@alanduff1054]

FACTS... the ONLY spitter fuQin with Pac is NAS

[@deusvult9372]

Pac is one of the best song writers period. Sure he didn't use punchlines , he used poetic words. So to me he's the best lyrically. It just depends on the styles you prefer. I think pacs lyrics were more emotion and poetic driven. His mission was to be more than just a rapper. He used his God given gift of writing to spread his message through rap music. He wasn't a technical rapper. He used his craft to transform the culture. Sadly people only appreciated pac once he died. Then everyone started listening to his music. Pac was only a kid when he wrote these masterpieces, like changes and the rest of his catalog. Pacs music is about the message, not crafty wordplay.

[@W4R_pOP3._718]

GUY IF HE WASN'T CRAFTY AND ABLE TO WOW U WTG HIS WORDPLAY HE ABSOLUTELY CANT BE THE BEST LYRICALLY UNLESS U PERSONALLY TRULY LACK UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THAT MEANS. PAC MUSIC/WORDS MAY RESONATE/U FEEL THE MOST, BUT HE ABSOLUTELY WASN'T THE BEST LYRICALLY ON ANY LEVEL .

[@emergeNvr]

Lyrics are felt and 2pac was the best to ever do it rhyming and all,shit that man is the Goat

[@amaniadore3602]

The definition of lyricism is an intense personal quality expressive of feeling & emotion in an art. There was no greater lyricist than Pac.💯

[@streetbaby8026]

Love the definition 💯

[@joeyscribbles6220]

Pac used lyrical techniques he used multistage, internals etc in his raps. And used similes and he had tracks where he specifically focused on the lyrics like both first. Me and my girlfriend, blasphemy, troublesome 96 Now Jay is a better lyricist but Jay is a better pure rapper off of witty lyricism than everybody except Eminem in the tier he's in. Pac however is the better overall rap artist and is more versatile than Jay, and more creative and better artist

[@gbrazor]

😆 😆 😆 😆 😂 😂

[@H.L.S.98]

I listen to music to feel emotion. Rappers that can create crazy rhyme schemes etc just for the sake of it doesn’t do anything for me. That’s just like lyrical gymnastics. PAC makes you feel something uttering just one sentence! He’s in a league of his own.

[@michaelpratchett4415]

Metaphors and wordplay are NOT lyrics. Lyrics have SUBSTANCE not fluff. Get a dictionary

[@sparkz_fly]

Did he just say Jada was too high on the list in front of Styles. He's crazy!

[@TheAlkebulanTrust]

Both are great lyricists. A lyricist isn't just an MC that can have crazy wordplay but can also have content and delivery that impacts your brain and soul. To be a lyricist you have to be a poet. We all listen to certain MCs for different reasons

[@Rich-km7pr]

THANK YOU! 👏🏾

[@Stress7820]

Most of the time when someone ask if an Emcee is dope lyricist first thing thing u think is the Lyrical Miracle stuff.. Eminem, Sean price Kendrick Jadakiss cole I'll even throw Ludacris in there. But passionate powerfull poet messenger Profit Pac was it hands down nobody listens to 2pac for the Lyrical Miracle songs.. truth and facts here 💯

[@RudolphManor]

2PAC IS WAY BETTER THAN JAY LYRICALLY! 💯

[@smerk_11]

PAC’s music always gets you through

[@jiggna11]

Pac touched peoples heart b/c he had conviction, passion about the plight of Black people b/c he comes from The Panthers household. He related thru the struggle and it was real and raw. I mean from Brenda Got A Baby, Dear Mama, Thugs Passion, etc. He just had ranges to his artistry. Pac was different!

[@ykmitchell]

Jay didn't have enough range to be in the Pac conversation in '96. Jay never had a 2Pac level of impact on hip-hop nor the culture in general. Still hasn't touched on as much subject matter so I'm not going to compare 30 years of Jay-Z bars to 3-4 years of 2Pac. That window has closed.

[@nicklove3963]

Clearly never listened to Hov. Probably can’t even name 5 songs

[@chinoejio]

Pac was his own category. He was lyrical enough to get him through those 90s. Movie star, activist, sex symbol etc. The better lyricist talk is mute at this time. If your a fan of music in general, Styles P said nothing wrong here. Although his performance on a Makaveli is underrated at times by NY.

[@nivek1660]

With the help of other Niggas assisting writing his raps. All of these rap dudes are frauds. We were deceived

[@Severed89]

Bro got styles P on here 💯💯💯 real humble dude underrated as hell.

[@nehemiahbrumfield896]

What’s a better lyricist, lyrical spiritual lol pac’s word play is superior pac’s story telling is superior what makes jay z a better lyricist than Tupac

[@brunojosuequifanda3733]

2pac dont waz a wordsmith.Biggie,Nas,Jay,Pun,Big L,Em,Rakim,Ras kass are fare beyond Pac lyrically😂😂😂😂.Pac bite Nas I gave you power .

[@nehemiahbrumfield896]

Disagree Tupac died #1 while jay Z first album was flopping biggie hadn’t released an album in almost two years nas couldn’t mess with him and the rest of them nobody knew

[@brunojosuequifanda3733]

@@nehemiahbrumfield896 lyrically they far superior to PAC.Its Not about album sales or who Woz more famous,PAC Bite Nas i Gave you more power and maked me and my girlfriend,PAC Also Bite Ras Kass hard on The Don kiluminty album😂😂😂😂😂,on top of that Biggie and Nas have 5 mic's classic albums and lyricist of The year.Pac waz a great songwriter and a good actor 👌

[@joeyscribbles6220]

Pac used lyrical techniques he used multi syllabic rhymes, internals etc in his raps. And used similes and he had tracks where he specifically focused on the lyrics like both first. Me and my girlfriend, blasphemy, troublesome 96 Now Jay is a better lyricist but Jay is a better pure rapper off of witty lyricism than everybody except Eminem in the tier he's in. Pac however is the better overall rap artist and is more versatile than Jay, and more creative and better artist

[@deathitself6985]

Pacs unreleased tracks hit different so many bangers

[@Camjj89]

That’s all I’ve been bumpin to lately. Secretz of War is 🔥🔥🔥

[@trealcity]

2pac lyrics was excellent and he even dumbed it down so how he aint lyrical when he not trying

[@nivek1660]

But he didn’t write all of his lyrics

[@PreachMooreComedy]

What wordplay does Pac have to match Andre 3000 or Kendrick or Rass Kass or Rakim?

[@thecunninlynguist]

​@@PreachMooreComedylyricism doesn't always mean word play

[@jeanpayano1506]

Pac got repetitive once he got to Deathrow alot of his music was about riding on enemies sadly as much as his fans say they loved his message they seem to glorify and revered the times where his message was watered down and focused on negativity, in my eyes the real 2pac died on Me Against the world

[@papiking1991]

@@PreachMooreComedy give me some word play from Andre 3000 and Kendrick and others ..?! Because y’all just be saying shit

[@yaboi-ru4532]

Alot of ppl forget that it took JayZ his entire career just to be mentioned along the likes of a man (Pac) that created an entire discography and had extra time to venture into movies back when JayZ was still trying to find his sound because lets keep it a buck, JayZ wasnt a factor when Pac was alive. So its really no comparison between the two because Pac was fully establised as the goat before his death at 25 when Jays career was in diapers at damn near 30.

[@juliusjujusurratt9568]

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[@quawiyali3277]

THAT IS A FACT!

[@UrbanAlchemystic]

I'm glad somebody said it it's not even a fair comparison

[@nivek1660]

They’re both frauds. Biggie was too

[@THUGGO773]

Pac is always the standard of comparison in rap like Jordan is to basketball

[@blikblin8351]

Factz

[@nivek1660]

My standard is Ray Love writing 2Pac’s lyrics so is Ray Love the greatest since he wrote for 2Pac your idol, the guy who used to hang out in gay clubs. Ask Queen Latifah

[@ybklyn87]

DELUSIONAL.

[@jhardi_official366]

The standard should be nas and his illmatic album

[@jabaristandberry3437]

Emotion >>>>lyrics that’s why pac music hit different compared to all them nyc lyricists 💯

[@KingofNewYorkkk]

DMX

[@jabaristandberry3437]

@@KingofNewYorkkk DMx was lowkey a emotion artist to but he had lyricism also

[@nivek1660]

Pac aka MC New York was a New Yorker but he didn’t always wrist his own raps

[@KingofNewYorkkk]

@@jabaristandberry3437 DMX was both. X started as a battle MC in the early 90’s with his spellbound style. In 94 he found his voice. X was relatable because he spoke on real life situations just like PAC.

[@kennethjackson]

Lyricist in New York mean best metaphors, while everyone else believes lyrics encompasses emotions and words. Pac was a lyricist, just no bullshit metaphor crap every New Yorker thinks. People felt Pac emotional felt raps(also lyrics). Just say Jay-Z the best metaphor speaker, even though half his lines came from Big and Pac. A lyricist is a writer not metaphor speaker sir.

[@isaacelijah6516]

East Coast rappers dont like 2 Pac 😢😢😢. 2pac is the best man. Never ever 👍. RIP 🙏

[@roshayerving1182]

Jay has never impacted my heart or mind listening to him EVER! Pac will forever be better than Jay-Z. He has accomplished great things in his lifetime.

[@AstronautKid89]

You can go anywhere in the world and 2pac is a household name. You can go to Kentucky, ask if they’ve heard of jay z they’ll be like “tf is that”

[@pay_it_forward_franklin4469]

#peace do you know why?

[@aermax7321]

..rs !!!

[@kactusjaxson2965]

Ngga I lived in Kentucky, people know who Jay Z is. Quit saying dumb shyt

[@slk1805]

Somebody would tell you, the guy who's married to Beyoncé. Oh, I know him. I didn't know he was a rapper though lol

[@thelastdon9000]

Now y'all definitely lying bruh people definitely know Jay-Z as a rapper

[@vickiewalker8592]

You said it right style. He is in a class by itself. Okay no one touch him

[@blikblin8351]

No body touches him , straight on his own level . Im writing from Africa and till this day we still feel him and love him. We do play Jay z that much. Naaa

[@dobblino778]

Don't ask a born and raised dude shit bout PAC's ranking.. They'll always say Jay Z and BIG over 2pac

[@heezyhines2209]

I'm from Jersey originally I'm 45 & I like Pac well better than Jay all around tbh Jay isn't in my top list or anything, No hate either I've Liked records/albums of his but for my preference, there was & also actively now are clearly better lyricists .. All opinion of course 💪💯

[@cliffh.2432]

Why do people get so offended about somebody saying Pac wasn’t a lyricist. He wasn’t. Being a poet isn’t the same thing. If that’s the case a poet is a lyricist? No. Doesn’t mean he wasn’t impactful, but don’t make up stuff about him because you glorify him like a god. It is what it is. Everybody can’t be compared, some are just in their own class. It doesn’t make him less of an artist, but to claim he was a lyricist is stretching it.

[@jonathancoleman6482]

PAC was definitely a lyricist

[@Tru-Feel]

Tupac really is in a class of his own. It’s just the beat selection, the meaningful lyrics, his hard delivery, story telling, topic matter, & just a lot of substance behind his rhymes. he was finna do sum revolutionary shit in the entertainment bidnezz. Pac was destroying his competition dissed tf out of everybody. nobody had nothing to say. but when he died almost everybody he dissed blew tf up! most ppl pac messed with got blacc balled. so it’s a slippery slope but Tupac Shakur definitely the 🐐

[@sheronbyrd1442]

NY rappers never gonna give PAC his props but Pac entirely outclass everyone on the MIC

[@jflip31]

PAC’s lyrics and raps is what they would call in battle rap, roomshakers and haymakers, mixed with poetry and passion

[@ybklyn87]

FALSE.

[@jflip31]

@@ybklyn87 factory

[@justone807]

nigga what?!?! Ain't nuttin bout that shit haymaker or room shaker.. knowledge yea but nahhh nigga lol

[@athirdwhy9734]

I agree, and even when it comes to lyricism people have their own definition of what it means and believe that Pac was lyrical, so to each their own. Personally, I'd pick Pac over Jay any day, but I've never rewound a Pac verse to hear his wordplay over and over again whereas I do that for Jay all the time. When I rewind a Pac verse it's to re-experience the gravity, depth, passion, and emotions of what he said, which I've never done for a Jay-Z song.

[@lioicxc6827]

2Pac didn't need lyrics to be better than Jay and all of you NY rappers. All he needed was his own style.

[@juliusjujusurratt9568]

Listen to that song own style with him and Greg nice❤

[@nivek1660]

And other niggas help write his own raps

[@lioicxc6827]

@@juliusjujusurratt9568 yes i remember that

[@lioicxc6827]

@@nivek1660 keep hating

[@nivek1660]

@@lioicxc6827 Ray Love wrote trapped. It’s facts, look it up. Stop being an idol worshipper.

[@jaythawriter4940]

I’ll never put Jay ahead of pac. PAC touches the soul. Jay can never do that.

[@Lassy632]

Jay-Z is never in life better Lyricist than Tupac Shakur!!!!!!! Pac is a legend please do not compare him with no rapper!!!!

[@58ways2prosper]

RIP Tupac…. Pac was the first Emo-conscious rapper to turn gangsta. Church. The reason most blacks can’t see that Pac’s lyricism is marginal when compared to Hov, Pharoah Monche, Eminem, or Nas is because there is a lie going around that says “All blacks know hip hop music!” That’s a blatant lie. Before whites heard Vanilla Ice, blacks outside of NY were the first Americans to diss hip hop and write it off as trash. Ask your grandma for the receipts. She has ‘em.

[@detreyusbetts2596]

Most of these dudes is bias PAC was a better lyricist he words actually meant something.

[@AllikRellik]

Y'all all saying he NOT a lyricist. He never said Pac wasn't a lyricist. Pac clearly IS a lyricist. He's incredible. But he said Jay was a better lyricist because that's what Jay focused on. Being a better lyricist than everybody. Pac focused on making ppl feel him and feel where he was coming from. He definitely IS in a class of his own. I honestly think they ALL are really. Jay is incredible whether ppl falsely believe or hate it or not. We all judge Jay to his degree of what he SO called did, but Pac did alot of wild shyt and all of them did. And so did we. And we HATE being judged but always judging others. Our narrative should be based on praying that our life paths change for the better, for ourselves and each other, and that our talents are STILL displayed as great. None the less.

[@honorfirst7506]

2Pac’s lyrics are more recited, & felt, than Jay Z, or Styles, or Biggie lyrics. Most the world don’t want to hear people rap like, what New York rappers think are the best rappers. Just facts.

[@myrontaylor5310]

Really dope to hear Styles express and admit how great 'Pac was and still is. I really feel like DMX is also in that class wit' Pac. And I really don't see how if you like one you don't feel the other they both had deep souls that touched people even still 'til this day. And Styles ain't no slouch either, when it comes to hardcore gritty real life lyrics, this is the guy to listen to much like Prodigy from Mobb Deep.

[@harveymcelroy9332]

Great comparison of gritty lyricists wit Prodigy and Styles

[@Toxic_Troll1]

Dmx was far from pacs level

[@myrontaylor5310]

@@Toxic_Troll1 Not same class or level but same type though. Think Toyota Avalon vs a Mercedes S-Class sedan.

[@pluggedthug]

If he is in a class of his own than that would put him in the goat category

[@TyG2k9]

Not really. You can be a great lawyer among 1000s of great lawyers, but the only difference is you also run a restaurant. Definitely puts you in a separate class, but doesn't mean you're the best.

[@ybklyn87]

NAH.

[@thomaschatman3743]

@@TyG2k9 he is the goat. He did all this by 25, 26 years later we still talking about him

[@TyG2k9]

@@thomaschatman3743people still talk about Jordan, and yet there are many who will debate his goat status. Pac is a legend. But there will NEVER be a greatest rapper unless there's no one to debate it.

[@thomaschatman3743]

@@TyG2k9 consensus got Jordan and pac as goats in their space

[@ndeed725]

If BIG was still alive Hip Hop would be different……. If PAC was still alive the World would be different……..

[@KwameGalmer]

He must ain't heard "If I Die 2nite". Pac had lyrics.

[@juliusjujusurratt9568]

Holla at me. Off all eyez on me. People cannot say that pac was not a lyrics'

[@MurvMuzik]

Still i rise

[@AD214]

Nah fr or “F***** wit the wrong nigga”

[@casiemny1219]

He heard them. They are 🔥. I don’t think they change his opinion

[@warrent1668]

​@@juliusjujusurratt9568 Most people are saying that he is a trash lyricist but I Disagree. He lyrically was better than Jay-Z Nas idk about Biggie debatable but also lyrically better than west coast rappers too. I feel like his flow was kinda shaky and offbeat at times.

[@STell743]

To the one Pac Stan that keeps talking about Pac going diamond. It took 18 years for that to happen. It was certified diamond in 2014. So please @ me. I do my research and don't act off emotions. And yeah Jay is a better spitter than Pac. Pac had more emotion in some of his songs. But Jay had Regrets,You must Love Me, and Song Cry.

[@TT-hn5cm]

I respect him for this both of those guys are great let’s stop going against each other and pray for each other 🙏🏼 rip PAC

[@cjparks7881]

2pac wasnt a lyricist but he was an established poet.

[@minzy421]

Jay Z "am not a writer am a biter" he bit off loads of peoples styles. Big L out rapped Jay in the 1998 radio freestyle

[@juliusjujusurratt9568]

I remember Cam did that!!! Lmao he said biggie made two albums you stole from both😂😂😂😂😂

[@dch7774]

Plus jay remixed pacs song me and my girlfriend soooo basically copy pac to make a hit …. But do ppl give pac credit for that??

[@UrbanAlchemystic]

Also bit off a major chunk off of Camp Lo as well

[@brogaming950]

Taking a couple words is not biting.people act like he took whole verses.

[@juliusjujusurratt9568]

@@dch7774 thing about Jay-Z he was actually talking about a female Beyonce pac was talking about a pistol if that ain't gangsta I don't know what is

[@peterthegreat100]

People confuse lyracism with being a lyracist. By definition nobody had better lyracism than Tupac Shakur, Lyr·i·cism noun an artist's expression of emotion in an imaginative and beautiful way; the quality of being lyrical.

[@UptownAlleyFashion]

It’s all about how you interpret what lyricism is. New Yorkers tend to equate lyrical skill by way of how complex you write. Lyricism to me is how real you can be, how passionate, how you get your point across and how you’re able to connect to your demographic. With that being said, Tupac is by far the best lyricist ever, if you ask me.

[@dch7774]

And lil ceasar I’ll cut your young as up and leave you in pieces ……I thought that was pretty lyrical…… pizza pizza lmao

[@nasirjones-bey6565]

Great point!!!

[@UrbanAlchemystic]

Well said. It's a matter of preference really. Being that that's where hip-hop was cultivated I can see why they're so passionate about their view on all things hiphop they're more of like the Hip Hop purists I low-key expect them be a little overly critical considering the obvious. Southern rappers aren't that lyrical either but they don't really say too much about them only the West. Every Coast has their own spin on it, if everybody was trying to be lyrical then they would accuse everybody of trying to be like them

[@nasirjones-bey6565]

@@UrbanAlchemystic I don't respect it at all. Tupac's lyrics stand up to and exceed NY hip hop standards. The brother is former MC New York. The bias comes in from the Biggie beef. They will scrutinize and critique Pacs lyric ability but crown Lil Wayne as some profound Lyricist 😂😂😂. Total joke

[@BabsW]

Tupac's lyricism is underrated- he had some very lyrical songs: "If I Die 2Nite", "Got My Mind Made Up", "Blasphemy", and "Hail Mary" for example. He got busy lyrically when he wanted to.

[@254Kenya]

Definitely always listening to Pac when at my lowest 😔

[@Wickedblackjuggalo19]

I agree with Styles Jay is a top notch lyricist with 3 solid classic hard body of albums going all the way into the blueprint era

[@jamesbarnes7045]

Jay z is the most overrated rapper in history

[@papiking1991]

Top notch my ass … the same dude who steal lyrics !

[@Nocaption666]

Jay z is not that lyricist fuck jay 😂

[@monsieurframes]

Pac was 25 when he died, my Nigga used to spoke with his HEART, he didn't gave a fuck about being a " lyricist " my dude's legendary.

[@riccowilliams5483]

Pac was A PREACHER when he rapped.. that's why he resonated so much....

[@thecunninlynguist]

Really depends on how the term lyricist is used cause pac was lyrical in his own right. He was no canibus, Chino xl ass lyricist, but he was still a lyricist.

[@nivek1660]

If other niggas are writing your raps then you are automatically disqualified from being a great lyricist.

[@gina8587]

I'm starting to realize what really made Pac great was his voice... His lyrics were on point, but his voice was so unique.

[@Therealrellsfa1]

Pac is bigger then a lyricist!!His lyrical genius embodied the message in a way that every generation will always try to figure him out,something Jay Z will never accomplish dead or alive!!He told the world that ppl will talk about him years after he's gone & guess what,he was right!!

[@nivek1660]

And sometimes he even used other Niggas lyrics such as Ray Love for Trapped

[@ILoveTheAllCreator]

🧢 He lost the message when he turned gang gang

[@FrankyWorldPeace]

Jay Z: "and you know its bad when your sister is mad and your son gotta grow up like this my dad?!" Makaveli: "Watch me paint a perfect vision, this life we livin', got us all meetin' up in prison. Last week I got a letter from my road dog, written in blood Sayin', "Please show a playa love"- hold ya head! (Hold it!)" But they'll tell you Jigga is more lyrical smh. RIP Makaveli

[@lubui2583]

jay is on another level. heres a simple one for you to comprehend since you love simple basic lyrics.. "I father, I brooklyn-Dodger them, i jack, I rob, I sin, aw man, im jackie roninson, except when i run base, i dodge the pin". conversation over!!!

[@SuperNova-lo3pb]

Let's be honest, only New York based fans see Nas, Jay-Z and Biggie as being better than 2pac. But to the rest of the world, 2pac holds the #1 spot.

[@blikblin8351]

At the back of their mind they know he was .

[@deehood9241]

Lol why yal be mad when somebody say pac ain’t number 1…top 20 is still good..yal funny 😂

[@SuperNova-lo3pb]

@@deehood9241 I'm suppose to be mad because i'm telling it how it is?

[@deehood9241]

Your one person..how u gonna say the rest of the world think pac #1…u can’t speak for the world…some people think it’s pac, some think jay, some think biggie…some think nas….etc etc….shit these young dudes might think it’s young boy…what u said is an opinion which is fine…but pac fans get mad when people say someone better like that’s hate…everyone can’t be Jordan…gotta have some magic, bird,kareem, Kobe, Lebron too

[@SuperNova-lo3pb]

@@deehood9241 I travel alot between Europe and Africa. I've been in Asia...But I guess you're right on this one. I can't speak for the rest of the world. But hey, world wide records sales do, sold out world tours do, general brand awereness does. Keep believing that the world exists out of the 5 boroughs. Meanwhile I have to explain to my colleagues that that dude Beyonce is married to, is actually a rapper called Jay-Z.

[@fuhyou3223]

There was another rapper from Michigan that made Dear Momma in 1993 called Damion The Demon Seed. Look it up and figured out who got what from who. Apparently Damion wasn’t pleased and let Pac know it.

[@jeanpayano1506]

When it came to the list honestly I didnt care I know my guy (Biggie) will always be mentioned in the Mount Rushmore of hip hop with just 2 albums

[@HotRodakaMadMax]

Got to loves Styles P. Jay gets really upset when people don’t say Jay is the best. We all can’t be clones of each other when it comes to people’s favorite rapper. But if ask me Pac is miles above Jay Z.

[@Mir4rmdaSouf]

Man Pac had words wit emotions that stood out and shook the world . Jay Z never move the world like that imo, but he has top tier music though .

[@leeshawnwilliams6286]

He didn't say Pac wasn't a lyricist he just said he thinks Jay is better.

[@thomaschatman3743]

No he didn't, he said jay is a better lyricist but pac id is a poet and in a league of his own. He can't be compared to

[@itsmewhatshisface9386]

The one thing I will give Jay-Z a lot of credit for, and I mean, a whole lot, and that's getting Beyoncé to say I do

[@agz873]

Pac would’ve beat him to that too, she only got with Jay cuz of his status

[@Thetruthseeker90]

Ayo styles p clearly don't listen to pac like that for him to say some bs like that , they all on a east coast trip in NYC. Ask the niggas n jersey and they gone give u the real. I'm from Jersey. Most of the outlaws are from my city Newark NJ. And we EAST COAST. but we still gone keep it real. Pac was is and always will be the Greatest.

[@yaboyaang5639]

I saw Styles P at a grocery store in Los Angeles yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything. He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?” I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying. The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter. When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.

[@syzer8676]

Wow what a story, maybe he was having a bad day ...we all do. If not then man sound like he a real Ahole

[@JaeRocReacts]

man said im bored in this room, let me tell a false story unprovoked & hopefully someone believes it

[@svenwald9199]

nice try troll

[@user-bn8ui9wm3u]

😂😂 would anyone recognize this man in a grocery store?

[@wweisawseome]

@@JaeRocReacts It’s a copypasta lol

[@adnanojd]

PAC over Joe camel in all aspects of life, In a class way above.

[@gsportsgaming9387]

Pacs music takes you through ALL the human emotions

[@MajesteDeFrance-lg3zv]

Any song is lyrical no matter the genre yet what NY rappers overly emphasis is punchlines which is a technique taken from Comedy not songwriting. NYC rappers often engage each other in playing the dozens using punches which is a culture in NY but battle rapping is big money game just as Cassidy. Respect to NYC way because that's where Rap Music originate.