This Cheater Pretended to be ARRGE in Overwatch 2 🤣

[@SeanReeser]

Arrge's gameplay is so calm it looks like slow motion sometimes. he would never look this schizo.

[@sith6375]

have you ever watched one of his videos? he literally overthinks everything he does lol

[@skonni44]

@@sith6375”arrge’s GAMEPLAY is so calm” what part didn’t you understand lol😭😭

[@rishi2131]

​@@sith6375I don't think they were saying he doesn't think, just that he doesn't flick around a ton and moves his mouse smoothly

[@sith6375]

@@skonni44 my bad i read it quickly and overlooked that

[@alexdahmane7025]

@@sith6375nice to see a normal person on the internet who admits his mistakes

[@Fools_Requiem]

It wasn't obvious until he switched to Soldier because he was trying to hide it. All of his good shots were long range and could be contributed to luck/Hanzo BS. But then the Genji gets close and he actively tries to avoid locking on because it'll be obvious that he's cheating if he kills the Genji close up. It would have likely snapped to the Genji if he wasn't actively trying to avoid aiming at him.

[@tylbi1315]

Idk man I was the readme guy and the one who itinually called it out it was really obvious to me just to how his shots werent lining up with his positioning etc also there was a kill on me that was edited out that looked really fucking weird to me and made me sus in the 1st place

[@andreamicheli2575]

Nah my guy, this dude hit insane shots back to back. He is too consistent, noteven OWL players are as consistent as this guy.

[@rebornjoker359]

Hanzo BS?

[@Ex3ox]

@@rebornjoker359sometimes Hanzo arrows are the size of a truck or you just hit lucky shots

[@tertozer3543]

You must be low elo then. His Hanzo was already beyond sus at the beginning.

[@keelanruffner5440]

“This is not a Arrge alt account because they said that it was gm/top 500” Jay didn’t need to do that to that guy

[@joegarrison5911]

That man went through enough ELO hell grinding out of Masters

[@hc9068]

@@Read_surah_al-fatihah Still not GM 1 tho lol

[@solarwings1132]

"GM" is still GM regardless, lol ​@@hc9068

[@zendakk]

Jay should consider himself lucky there's not a fucking EU schizo discord full of stream snipers/throwers whose sole purpose is to coordinate ruining his games. Just saying.

[@ncascini01]

I remember that creator event near when OW2 released and when Argge dunked on all the US streamers in top 500. I think Jay could at least acknowledge his skill.

[@Lordin_]

4:50 he was aiming low to flank, but as soon as the widow grappled, he followed her upwards as soon a pixel of her gun appears lol. IDNK how Jay didn't notice it

[@fr-ci6dl]

sound cue ???

[@PX6DEVASTATER]

@@fr-ci6dl He appears to very briefly track her perfectly through the wall before she's actually in view. Sound would give away that she's nearby but he appears to know very specifically where she's at.

[@heyomando1374]

@@fr-ci6dlhe didn’t use sound cues man lol it’s blatantly obvious he is walling and using the aim-assist for pretty much every single arrow all game. One or two questionable shots gives room for benefit of the doubt… 30+ “lucky” shots in one game is not statistically possible to be considered luck. If someone gets the winning lottery ticket 10 times in one year it ain’t luck they’re just cheating the system.

[@theguywithabrain2060]

His Hanzo was really hard to tell, other than the walling, 9:23 is extremely obvious where he locks onto the enemy Hog I don’t think I would’ve noticed that this guy was hacking if I were playing

[@zntei2374]

Jay didn't even catch that, unreal microstrafe reactive speed

[@juicer1155]

jay when the old age starts to catch up 6:05

[@unixerse297]

the schizophrenia hitting hard

[@sunraen]

bwahahahahahahahhaha!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@dominicharvey6048]

This cheater doesn't know what to do when someone gets in his face

[@TisMinnetta]

It’s more like he doesn’t want to fight close up cause that’s when it really kicked in. So most likely this is a player that cheats on a character like genji

[@IxBexSolo]

“Summary started the game off on Hanzo NUR-ticed…” lmaooo 0:20

[@th3bo1azyt57]

Blizzard needs better anti-cheat fr

[@OverwatchSIX]

We dont have one. -They promised a new better game engine (Its still ram and cpu dependant af game- literally the same engine as OW1 sorry to spoil that to you upon deeper dives I am sure SAVITARAX can prove this to you within every single detail imaginable). -They promised PV---LMAOOO E! PVE! Imagine?! -They promised a better sound engine- The emitters arent hitting right since day 1 LOL. (From a sound engineer standpoint). -They promised an amazing anti cheat (LOL?) -They promised that cheaters, duo'd with a mercy pocket or duo'd with whoever, would get banned but especially mercy pockets (Google it, I am not lying) They promised the anti cheat, amongst many many many things my friend. It hasn't been here since day 1. Why would they start now that the games literally rock bottom dead? They have ai running it down in QP to make it seem like we have amazing population in OW2 compared to OW1 with queue times. Yes, its ai in your games and you don't even realize it. The same ai that themselves & Jagex amongst other big title games decided to trial for anti cheat but failed to realize the ai doesnt just pickup on false cheats, itll act on said false cheats causing false bans. Same as the chat bans you see going around when the proof provided is "gg" "lol" "omg nice" "ggwp" "haha" "huge!" etc is the reasoning for the suspension/acc closure & no further tickets can be made to appeal- the same ai is/was "running" that show. Open some eyes. This company hates it's audience but loves their money. Regardless if Bobby is gone. Investors still want results.

[@Redacted_Phantom]

Funny thing is that they have one... Even tho i think is literally either not working or in an extend vacation at this point

[@Fools_Requiem]

Punkbuster would be better than whatever they're using.

[@bradenthegreat111]

they focus on banning players for being toxic instead 😊of

[@Keyz42]

*blizzard needs an anti-cheat

[@mcbread9760]

It's wild to me how Hanzo can pass as 'just good' when aimbotting. People can't wrap their heads around the concept of a projectile aimbot. It's just maths.

[@Equitine]

5:11 had take a moment and sound down bad on that one lmao

[@Izzy_Gamer_Girl45]

I LOVE U SM JAY UR THE BEST!!!

[@besnos7506]

projectile cheats work like this on hanzo, you pull the arrow, aim a little bit, and then the cheats will aim and fire for you, thats why when he was fighting genji he just held the arrow, his cheats weren't firing for him there.

[@M109_KAWEST]

6:36 never a hanzo player can achieve this kill this fast, even the best. You can't process the info down to the mouse this fast, if he was 0.25-0.4s slower he would've been legit. + some of his shots are weird, sometimes he just randomly point in general direction and does 1 perfect STRAIGHT flick

[@realNefOW]

prediction cheats

[@PrometheusXV]

That's a really easy kill, wdym?

[@M109_KAWEST]

@@PrometheusXV its not about being easy or hard, its just that you can't kill him that fast considering he didn't had a visual of him before. But that's not the biggest red flag, biggest are the perfectly straight flicks when aiming randomly

[@zntei2374]

Yeah that's Zen so no footsteps and no sonic there either, yet still perfect lineup lol

[@PrometheusXV]

​@@M109_KAWESTHe's definitely cheating, I'm not questioning that. However, that shot would be pretty normal in GM. You don't need a visual indicator to know where someone is, you can anticipate generally where they are, and then have good crosshair placement. The Zen was spamming shots the entire lead-up to the fight, you should definitely know he's there. I have ~700 hours on Hanzo in mid-high GM. That looked like a pretty standard flanking Hanzo kill.

[@domeryt2197]

I know you probably won’t see this but you make me laugh when I need it most thanks jay ❤️

[@truckerdave8465]

Idk what you’re going though but I hope it gets better ❤

[@Zack-lg9mi]

This honestly makes me mad how can you be that bad with aimbot 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@S_Scaling]

You can all ways tell bc the aimbot auto corrects to a head shot

[@NuxyR3]

15:04 look at the auto lock 😂

[@kingbaco1233]

My favorite quote from any streamer ever is when jay3 said “what’s the difference between a silver mercy and a GM mercy? Their boyfriend.”

[@AndrewOsmond-z9k]

chat in replay when

[@sunraen]

crosshair in replay when

[@Sparxx_]

Not the chocolate starfish lol

[@fishdemslabs5002]

Every time I'm recommended you by YT it's for Hanzo/arrge-sensei references. Every time you pronounce his name wrong. Respect my sensei, it's Arrgh-gehh

[@averagegamer8850]

Ngl accidentally watched jays explanation on 2x speed and I laughed at it

[@Night_Hawk_475]

He looked really obvious to me, I just don't think Jay3 was paying attention that much. His aim was often flicking directly onto a headshot and then just as quickly the aim is returning back to EXACTLY where he was aiming before the kill. See: @3:05 on Ana, @5:29 on Widow, and @12:18 on Widow. And the other half of his other flicks are just as weird for different reasons - where they flick to a head and don't overshoot at all and after the shot his aim just rests there for a moment. I'm guessing his tool was returning his aim to where it had been if his mouse was moving when he shot, and was letting it rest if he hadn't been moving his mouse, which is why when it rests on a head it does so for an extended period of time - because he wasn't moving his mouse and he takes a moment to begin doing so again. Generally flicks will "follow through" in the same direction aftewards, or will zig-zag back, but not exactly to where they originated from. Where as all of this cheaters flicks were either stopping on a head or returning back to his original aim position - both of which are known behaviors for cheat tools. (Why his is doing both and not just one I'm not sure, I guessed above that it had to do with whether he was moving his mouse at the time of the shot or not). I would've felt uncomfortable watching this guy's killcams on me in the match, but I wouldn't have been certain enough during the match to actually ask for a draw either because one-off kill cams are always hard to judge. But looking at the full replay I was pretty convinced well before the soldier swap.

[@cactichris9829]

This guy is going like side to side but when I play hanzo it’s mostly flicks and arcs other than just random shooting

[@icedcreamgaming]

When you can't figure out what the hanzo was doing third point in the mega with genji. I think his cheat may have been pushing his crosshair up to avoid firing at the deflect

[@DevilousCipher]

Flats is way faster at realizing they're using cheats, he taught me well on that lol

[@zalulu-uk5cu]

I like how the higher ranked players handle cheaters like this yet everytime someone mentions someone is suspicious you get shamed for it by everyone in the lobby, atleast thats my experience

[@Dillydilly2020]

15:50 chocolate starfish wtf jay

[@speccysquaregolike9629]

lol not the sonic arrow during their widow's ult 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@azraelspeaks]

When it comes to reporting, I edge on the side of "yeah they are" when they are this close and let Blizzard hopefully figure it out.

[@dinolino7635]

looks like an average gold hanzo in every of my matches

[@Numenex]

Crazy that people still can’t seem to spell Soilder 76 right, it’s so simple.

[@TwisTeeaa]

Always a mercy helping the cheater.

[@kambido890]

It became obvious to me when Genji bladed him. If you look, he was confused but his aim, kinda like super strong aim assist, tracked the Genji's movements but he didn't shot likely bc he was still lost.

[@Hades-d3f]

bro when he plays soldier he was the ultimate activate all the time bruh

[@Grantsta]

“Jay3 where can I buy cheats?” “Ask your mom.” NO FUCKING WAY 💀💀💀

[@fr00tiie]

5:20 : YES. whenever i'm over to my boyfriend's place and i take a nap i love hearing him type or do whatever he's doing on his computer. it's so relaxing. best way to fall asleep fr

[@jibbedyjoojajoo]

can confirm my friend has one of those big chunky keyboards or whatever

[@olivethesilly]

hanzo cheats are the hardest to know for sure, because the character just looks like bullshit even when youre playing him. a legit player will look like theyre cheating if they hit a few shots, and then cheaters can look legit because theyll miss as well. projectile cheats just predict where the person will be based off their current velocity, so if someone has good movement the cheat will miss regularly

[@pederslothzuricho7685]

3:33 he gave himself away, you may say Zen has footsteps but you'd be wrong. This was a dead giveaway. For not to mention he is out of range for the sound listener for a Volley too.

[@Trathien-]

teammates can ping that and he was shooting

[@X3r0Gaming]

And I’m still stuck in gold with top 500 cheaters like this

[@skyhopper2610]

When I played ow2 hanzo is by far my fave character and the fact that people have to cheat on him to get kill is funny af

[@jackw3302]

7:25 He's trying not to get his auto aim to engage.

[@rotarbogdan6850]

"chocolate starfish😟😟"

[@DeadByMarcy]

Blizz should use the Valorant Anti-Cheat 💀

[@jackykoning]

Dude looks like hes cheating the entire time though. Look carefully at how whenever he shoots the game just flicks the frame it happens and flicks right back to where it was. I look at it this way. Humans are not perfect, when you start movement you are going to continue that movement until you decide to change it. You can't then change it 3ms later your body isn't fast enough. So making a circle and clicking is fine but going towards a target and then making 3 micro adjustments in 2 frames that is a big red flag.

[@ncascini01]

The funny thing about this cheater is that he doesn't know how worthless the dps role is. It doesn't matter if you hit every shot on soldier. In OW2, the dps is the support the support is the dps.

[@sycom-]

It was obvious he was cheating early on, when he’s in closer range, the micro flicks instantly adjust for strafing movements, you can’t see it on long range shots because the micro flicks are too small to see at full speed

[@scoott8605]

It definitely was not obvious if you didn’t know prior to watching the video most people would maybe raise an eyebrow here and there but it wasn’t until he was on soldier that it was bleedingly obvious

[@sycom-]

@@scoott8605 jay3 didn’t know for sure that he was cheating up until he pulled the soldier out, but I was 50% sure with the weird prediction shot at 1:58 on the zen, 80% sure with the shot on the widow at 2:10 and 100% sure after the shot on the genji at 2:57 the micro flick on the genji was blatant and idk how Jay or anyone else didn’t see it.

[@antonsokolov4622]

lol @ the A-D spam. Arrge never does that lol

[@amaateraasuuu]

mannn i love arrge

[@AdzzyM]

marry him then

[@amaateraasuuu]

@@AdzzyM i would 😭

[@OverwatchSIX]

@@AdzzyM My wife would suck Arrge so dry he would blow dust for a week.

[@jibbedyjoojajoo]

i love cheese duh-dum

[@ant4hed]

People need to stop calling them "hackers". They don't code or do anything but DL some suss malware program on their comp and CHEAT (some people make the cheats and test it but it's VERY RARE). Please start calling them "cheaters", the "hacker" term people use puts em on a pedestal lol. Just how I feel XD

[@triplet5375]

I wonder if blizzard will ever fix that horrible sound when rewinding in replay.

[@ramonvelasquez8431]

I wonder why are we seeing so many cheaters lately. Other content creators have several videos from the last few weeks where they go against cheaters. I play in metal ranks and I have encountered some of my own too.

[@zointisarenazi]

Free game ez to make accounts cheat again not to mention cheats has spoofer so even if u get ip banned u can still play same pc. Also cheating is a very profitable business to point ukrain bought whole cheating site

[@Revalusion]

Everyone here like "i knew i knew i knew" like Hanzo doesn't look like this NORMALLY and is why nobody likes him because he's basically feast or famine. Half the time GM hunt down people that other players weren't aware of at the time. All top 500 looks like this kind of BS headpopping, enemy ult tracking almost down to the percent, enemy movement predicting stuff. The only thing i saw that was weird with him is his mouse is slower than anyone else at that level i see playing hanzo and no one mentioned that. dude was so slow he couldn't even reasonably turn and run when genji ulted right next to him with reflect up.

[@maneater]

15:50 excuse me? 🤨

[@DeikRoschmann-bf1rj]

Yeah the reason why cheaters with aimbot never really come to like grandmaster or close is because they think that aimbot is all you need. No need for cooldown tracking or shit like that

[@imperialdra-mon5907]

nah its the real kenzo alt acount ahahahaha

[@austinhunt6566]

I don’t try to draw anymore bc the one time I tried to draw(we had a leaver) they enemy team went along with it until overtime and bodied my team and we lost

[@jonapokadev]

Which bayerdynamic's headphones do you use Jay3

[@ARINOXMUSIC]

It looks like the DT990 black edition

[@iuhp957]

Ngl this cheater was edging us the whole time :)

[@XWeedhunterX]

I mean if he kept going on Hanzo he could have gotten away with murder but he slipped up when kitten said soldier and it's chocolate star fish. Hanzo play was a bit sus at times, but nothing that was definite evidence or as in cs when we had overwatch cases ( people could look at recorded demos of reported players) Evidence beyond reasonable doubt.

[@AtriseOW]

Solider.The sound of widowsteps still scares the shit outta me. Because then you know shes close, watching you from her scope ready to hit the shot.

[@tylbi1315]

I feel like a genius for being the one who called him out ngl

[@ShawnKavanagh]

Cheers to the other players This guy can pound sand

[@CamSpaghett]

I could send in a vod of ximmers and show how similar it is to aimbot

[@32dylan23]

I'm almost certain that the mercy was in another cheater duo video or at least another video jay made

[@razgrizfps]

8 mins in and I’m not convinced this guy is cheating at all UPDATE: He is cheating

[@fithfith-un2cg]

Some games i get headshot by hanzo and when i check the kill cam the arrow is littearly following me even his crosshair placement doesnt look like headshot and i think i might be lagging and he is way too good could that be cheat?

[@edward97112]

7:01 really obvious walling, like who tf will walk with pov facing a wall if he can't see anything

[@Iwantbrains247]

Hanzo looked to have only walls. then he went soldier and it is fulll on aimbotting.

[@kaitofv]

He looked like a legit t500 hanzo til soldier came out

[@sergiofernandes718]

SOLIDER76 😂😂😂😂😂

[@liathedoll]

Also Arrge wouldnt be playing Pharah and Soldier XD

[@kharn1542]

this guy's cheats are wall and triggerbot

[@salarmosavi9189]

ok his cheats are funky at close range on hanzo apparently. The moment with sombra and then against genji, it's obvious he is keeping his crossair at center but its not doing the thing it should be doing, thus looking so stupid like he is just looking at center screen while completely lost.

[@leonelgros3831]

thats because the cheat probably calculates the trajectory of the enemy to get those headshots, and at close range it cant calculate the trajectory as well because the window for the arrow to hit becomes much shorter probably doesnt calculate that fast im assuming, you can also see his aim correct itself and after shooting it goes back to where he was previously aiming

[@sunraen]

ebay aimbot

[@jonathanm1992]

Wall + aimbot

[@CarlHellsing5527]

honestly i believe its just your always gonna have those players who wanna win not matter what even if their team mate knows it and will still boost them just to have more wins under their belt. i don't know honestly i don't see the reason to cheat in games.

[@hakainodoragon5807]

Did Blizzard Buff Hanzo delay to full charge his arrow? as i can see, he got instant charge :), so instant full damage.

[@qeritrium]

No, it still takes like 0.7 sec

[@KnJ0715]

sad part is if the part before the soldier was shown and was told that it was a streamer/youtuber everyone would be defending it hard. There are so many weird and sus behaviors from high profile content creator in all games.

[@skonni44]

oh idk maybe bc content creator aren’t expected to… yk… cheat….

[@KnJ0715]

@@skonni44 Yeah and neither are pro athletes. Where there is fame and money cheating will find it's way.

[@triplet5375]

Unrelated but with saving overwatch highlights, it takes so much longer than it used to, ow1 it took like 5 seconds now like 5 minutes

[@janime5393]

omg my mate dashy is in the vid hes the widow

[@therickeffect7466]

2:18 bro fucking curved that arrow

[@q110071137p]

Where can I download anti-cheat for this game?

[@devinedictatorshipgaming]

ow has a cheater issue hopefully things change next season

[@AdzzyM]

Slow motion hanzo headshots are satisfying asf tho

[@killersnipez1765]

That’s some wild gameplay if that man is not cheating js noting looked to sus no hard aim bot for sure but walls is possible but he dident show much

[@cooltwittertag]

anyone who didnt immediately saw hes cheating is smoking smth

[@JaidenGueho]

I love you I am like a gold or plat on Xbox and your my favorite overwatch player

[@metakirbo]

i dont think he hacking until soldier but then again if he could hit the hanzo shots i think he hit all the soldier

[@Splashbang_OW]

Cheating and still can't focus on anything but the enemy tank. 🤣

[@marleyx580]

Does anyone know if jay has a brother that plays smite?

[@krystofon]

arrges gameplay does look very sus.. like for example the way he doesnt look at flankers but waits until they get into his horizon on their own looks veeery sussy to me.I think he learned it by using wallhacks.

[@wondertriplover]

5:32 that was actually a super cool shot. you know, besides the cheating elephant in the room...

[@Peaches_Juice]

Dear god they can never spell soldier

[@Julxey]

Maybe he has a good gaming sense

[@TheGreatMaou]

lmao Ren526 in his chat must have been watching something else because this shit does not look normal for GM/top 500, his game sense was complete garbage. everytime someone got in his face in the beginning he freaks the fuck out

[@boltok9584]

does Jay not realize they have different types of aimbots? like there is hitscan tracking an projectile tracking? his Long range kills on his hanzo were all tracking/predicting, but felt like he toggled at close ranges constantly plenty of walls.

[@okok-sf9yk]

I dont think he was cheating as hanzo tbh

[@forever618]

what ranking?

[@sunraen]

he says at the beginning (gm/t500 EU)

[@forever618]

@@sunraen I mean ths match

[@sunraen]

@@forever618 i'm assuming the match is that rank

[@nevermindthebull0cks]

Typical hanzo bs, plus you expect top ranks to make cracked shots, I'm glad he turned it up for the soldier. Then he was top of owl level aim there.