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[@LisardaN_]

Such a nice guy , he plays widow so when he ults his team get walls to!!

[@poison4881]

I want to like your comment but it’s at 69 likes and as a man of culture… I must not like but I do like your comment 🍷🗿

[@deathb1ossom]

It's ok, somebody went ahead and ruined it. Some people like to watch the world burn................

[@Thepersonfromthatplace]

@@poison4881not anyone bozo

[@shiftcraz9032]

Too*

[@eltrylol]

@@shiftcraz9032to*

[@KidTragedy]

This is the first time I've seen someone with actual good game sense cheating subtly, like when he tracked that tracer's recall

[@kamisama9970]

He's not cheating

[@ieevux]

@@kamisama9970 he is

[@NotGahruvey]

@@kamisama9970its kinda hard to tell. Some of the clips are very suspect(tracking through walls) but other times you can tell where the game sense comes in.

[@lukasg4807]

​@NotGahruvey I mean he could be cheating but it's definitely not clear enough to ban off of. Blizzard does pretty much automate bans, heck one of necros's accounts just got banned. I wouldn't be suprised if a full lobby report (or 2 since he was just in a game with twofish) got him autobanned. Problem is there's no real way to do anything about it if you get false banned if you're not a streamer. I'm pretty sure if Jay3 made a smurf and started playing it offline he could get it banned for hacking. Especially if he was typing in chat to piss people off.

[@HolyCowLookAtThatOverThere]

​@NotGahruvey pretty sure this is the same guy karq and flats ended up spectating a different time. He's definitely cheating

[@DaisiesTC]

Man Jay3 missed the Lucio headtracking looking at chat 3 times lmfao

[@SirDiceGuy]

I was literally screaming at my screen. The only time it was really obvious and he missed it

[@mickeyslettuce1606]

i was literally freaking out😭

[@Punk0gothic]

ikr!

[@Cowabungas]

He also missed the wallhack prefire at 9:30

[@MrKogarou]

Yeah I single framed the 2nd half of that lucio jump with the ./, keys, and it was super obvious how that lucio was getting hard locked. Jay3 just barely missed it.

[@twisterduck1944]

This is an example of a good player using soft cheats. Nothing crazy obvious but definitely some suspicious things.

[@ZERO-tb8du]

such as?

[@ever611]

@@ZERO-tb8du 10:06 tell me that snapping on the Lucio doesn't look sus bro

[@WaveOfDestiny]

​​@@ever611i've seen top 500 soldier76 do shit like that, and he missed.

[@ToxicMothBoi]

Wdym not crazy obvious? Ive never used walls myself and i can easily tell bro has got walls on. Also wouldnt be surised if thry had some sort of slight aim help on aswell

[@undeadnoob6108]

9:32 he very obviously is cheating

[@3DRMoretto]

Apparently he might have been using some sort of silent aim or trigger bot aswell. At 15:39 he switches back and forth between Widow and Sigma. He tries to get the Widow but when is "out of screen" because she was behind the rock, the cheat immediately goes to Sigma, who was closer and visible, but he tries to go back to Widow.

[@TruEchoX]

This one is kinda tricky. In almost every instance, I was able to hear whoever it was before he held an angle on a corner. Either this guy is super aware or it really is walls. The main thing I'm sus about it is those hard flicks (+ smooth tracking), It's hard to believe that people can react so fast. So I'm calling hacks.

[@kaspersteenfeldt6108]

flicks is what widow is all about tho. if u main widow, especially in this rank, these flicks are kinda normal

[@Noctua8]

No way you think he's legit. He goes from good aim but nothing special round 1 to frame perfect hard locking round 2. We've all seen pro players and he tracks better than they do, and it isn't even close

[@illitaret8780]

It doesn’t matter, no one makes perfect reads all the time like this.

[@Noctua8]

​@@kaspersteenfeldt6108 his flicks weren't shit special his tracking is what's suspicious

[@kaspersteenfeldt6108]

@@Noctua8 and sometimes he's looking at those same corners without any1 being there.. idk, i saw nothing super sus here, just a good widowplayer

[@wusaint]

Sad part is it looks like they don't have to cheat! Their positioning and all looks spot on.

[@KlebinDaBoca]

Lil bro went from bodyshot bandit to headclicker from one round to another while completely changing his aimstyle. What a gamer.

[@Ayden_Ace]

I didnt see anyone else point it out but at 9:32 you can see him prefire the tracer pretty clearly

[@ambralemon]

Holy hell that one's obvious. No sound to go off of, not even a pixel of the Tracer showed on her screen, just prefired expecting her not to turn mid-jump lmao

[@PKFRAY]

No... you can see the health bar popping.

[@BenjaminHari]

I thought so too but he body shot the tracer few seconds earlier so you COULD argue that he reacted to health bar popping up. But yeah I'm convinced he's cheating as his playstyle is REALLY weird and something just doesn't match.

[@marcoricci3936]

@@PKFRAY we can see it beacause this is the replay mode, he respawned, leave spawn, and make a turn to see the tracer when he shouldn't know where she was

[@DrDemolition]

@@marcoricci3936 i'm pretty sure health bar appears

[@ReebenHauser]

The shot on the Lucio at about 10:05 to 10:07 was either very good tracking or something sussy. Like a slight snap and lock. Do frame by frame. Seemed weird.

[@637marleyy]

Yeah bro you're right if you keep watching as soon lucio in middle of the payload the aim snaps and locks

[@ZERO-tb8du]

he crouched

[@flynnfarron]

​@@ZERO-tb8du It's cringe regardless.

[@Kubonka_]

Yeah after the shot on the lucio the crosshair snaps to the feet of hanzo.

[@pizzagetty4327]

That name looks familiar. I think he got banned mid game in a game Flats was in, then went to cry on both his and KarQ's channel asking them to talk to Blizzard to get him unbanned. His last words before getting banned "I got 3 I'm literally hacking..." xD

[@Snottyfinga]

Yeah thats the same guy ive also had him in a few of my ranked games when he was hacking along time ago in the flats video

[@crizum2475]

Thought the name looked familiar, I believe you are correct

[@michael.koscheck]

you never say that? that's a normal thing to say when you pop off

[@drewdadew]

@@michael.koscheck yeah fr lmao least suspicious think you could say

[@eeveewithcoffee9554]

The Widow I would have said looked fine until he watched Tracer through the walls to pre aim at her. That’s when they made their last mistake

[@illitaret8780]

No this is top elf, this guy makes the perfect reads on everyone’s positioning at all time. He doesn’t get caught out and positions himself for maximum kills, without making mistakes. Cheats are the only way to explain this in my mind.

[@SirDiceGuy]

Tbf it could have been called out by one of his team mates but that time he clearly hard locks on the Lucio as he ults but jay looks at his chat was so infuriating

[@WillowHsu]

i think this can be predicted. if the tracer disappears in that direction, she will come from that direction.

[@umarrii]

This guy was hardware banned btw, he kept trying to stream himself playing Overwatch and every account would get banned lol Said he was quitting because every account he plays on gets banned right away now but I guess hes back trying to get around it and continue to cheat. Also would always duo with Brooks, who idk if theyre a cheater but its so weird to me. I wonder if that was the hanzo on their team too. This guy has been trying to cheat on Overwatch for so long now and tries so hard to cover it up

[@Aimbok]

Someone being hardware banned doesn't mean they cheat. People have been hardware banned simply for being toxic in the past. The problem is, Blizzard has lost all credibility when it comes to bans. Nobody knows what the actual anti-cheat bans are, and what are cheating bans just triggered from mass cheating reports. At least with VAC we know it's the anti-cheat, and not the players having any influence whatsoever on the ban.

[@muteunmute5902]

@@Aimbok The guy didn't write that he thinks he was cheating because he was hwid banned. He just stated that he was. Nice strawman argument.

[@xblur17]

@@Aimbok Oh look at that, the guy who was cheating in csgo is here to defend another cheater! Classic

[@PVPTACOGUY]

"FLATS HACKUSATES A LEGIT WIDOW AND GETS HIM BANNED | OVERWATCH 2" was his video where flats called hacks on him

[@Illshoothemoon]

LMAO i just saw it, its his friend who he was playing with who posted it being like "my fweind got hateaccused of cheating and he's NOT cheating blah blah blah blah"

[@mortalpoint4167]

@@Illshoothemoonthose guys definitely suck each other off stream, doubt they are just friends

[@sahaakhiyat3703]

Seeing russian nickname in NA server so unusual lol. Cheating Hanzo has nickname "Наркопритон" which means "Crack house"/"Drug den"

[@samuraichamploo5956]

Согласен 😂

[@RaPidChewy]

12:12 bro tracked the Lucio's head perfectly.

[@anettelma123]

fr! players dont track like robot

[@ZERO-tb8du]

lucio was midjump you can track mid jump because its predictable

[@ysljayy219]

@@ZERO-tb8duso you can track that perfect😂😂

[@ysljayy219]

His aim never left the head

[@WaveOfDestiny]

I've seen top 500 soldier 76 track shit like that while having recoil, the jumping makes it predictable

[@tylbi1315]

This is what it looks like when good players soft cheat

[@iloveloona420]

"Soft cheat"? You must be joking

[@tylbi1315]

@@iloveloona420 Yes? Theres an obvious difference between hard locking aka “rage hacking” and soft locking

[@thebelowaveragesaibamen3286]

​@SillyWilly39 oh nah ur restarted 😭

[@iloveloona420]

@@thebelowaveragesaibamen3286 not the ableism 😍😍

[@iloveloona420]

@@tylbi1315 fair, i didnt watch the video in full before i commented that

[@thewelshrocker101]

Widow is a confirmed cheater and has been roasted before in a Flats video.

[@fire1727]

Man twofish had that guy shaking in his boots lmao

[@GoatPersonThing]

fun fact (ive used cheats on ult accounts before bc i was curious) you can stream and hide the esp from OBS, even if its an internal cheat, OBS reads it as a third party overlay

[@Jartran72]

Yeah no shit you can hide the overlay, but it malfunctions sometimes. That is how we got the famous Clara meme. And please don't even try cheats. You are going down some bad roads. Ofcourse if you just wanted to see what cheats there are to recognise them better that is okay I guess.

[@GoatPersonThing]

@@Jartran72 trying it means trying it, nothing else lmao, besides, as a programmer im very familiar with how theyre made, theyre stupidly easy to spot, bigger devs just have too many ppl to keep track of, even bots doesnt rly help, sadly blizzard is also stupid

[@3KoboldsInAtrenchCoat]

Didn’t that live leak guy get banned a couple times already

[@curseofremains1905]

Yeah I thought I recognised the name... Reckon Flats mighta done a vid? Def seen him get accused before

[@TheManofthefuture101]

He got banned while KarQ and Flats were live on Twitch. Flats did a vid on the Widow, and you could clearly see their BattleNet say they were banned from OW2.

[@raddiemiggs]

i was literally coming to the comments to see if anyone else thought he was in another video too

[@fourplayerarcade]

I never realized so many people leave comments before finishing the video.

[@blackblanket0]

@@raddiemiggssame😂

[@legacylionheart]

15:57 he goes to scope Widow, forgets he shouldnt be able to see Widow, so then uses his Ult to have a reason to know widow was there.

[@yere7851]

His teammate pinged the enemy widow there at 15:49

[@yere7851]

And 15:57

[@LeRageuxGentil]

You can even ear the footstep of the widow x) so i don’t agree with you ahah

[@dusteyezz784]

He literally aimed there the moment he heard footsteps, Widow heels are the loudest steps in-game. Couldn't see him so he used walls. Nothing unusual whatsoever.

[@mags6488]

thats so crazy lmaoooo its so obvious that he is trying to make it seem like hes not cheating all game.

[@MyuNeptune]

The hilarious part is when widow acts like they think that enemy is somewhere else and moves instantly back to the spot cuz they moved one step. xDDDDDDD

[@JonathanPerrozzino]

guy's twitch account now says "no one believes me"

[@CQuick30]

At the 9:25 mark, you can tell easily that they are cheating if you slow it down. Aims at the Tracer instantly even though they are crouching and hidden until the last second. Also something Jay3 might be missing is that there are player progression levels now that you can see at the end of matches. Not sure if you can see them if the profile is private though.

[@PKFRAY]

No, you can't see the tracer's showing because of Jay's image on the video. Get the replay and you'll see

[@PKFRAY]

No, you can't see the tracer's showing because of Jay's image on the video. Get the replay and you'll see

[@JB-qq1xz]

This guy must've gone out of his way to peak corners that had no one coming lol... bit of a stretch, it's a shame that the jury has samethink

[@agames7217]

10:05 look at how they lock onto the lucios head here put it on .25 speed they for sure cheating

[@ZERO-tb8du]

look in slow mo after aiming at lucio head he crouched thats why it felt like snapping

[@agames7217]

@@ZERO-tb8du Yes but he was also locked onto his head for a second like perfectly tracking im not talking about the snapping

[@WaveOfDestiny]

Lucio was in mid air, i've seen top 500 track like that, it's good but not superhuman

[@ChocolateHennessy]

The rabbit hole rant at the end took me out 😂😂"Hey Jay3 *tap* *tap* *tap* *tap* according to my calculations *tap* *tap* *tap* *tap*" 🤣💀🤣💀🤣💀🤣

[@me_rinta]

9:33 That shot on Tracer was very sus. I don’t think you can see her from the player’s perspective at all and he still took the shot He clearly is not a bad player I don’t get why would he need the cheats…

[@vinyldimer]

For anyone doubting if he is cheating, go watch the Flats video that Jay watched. At the end, there is a clip from one of this dude's VODs. He literally says he is cheating and that he didn't care about bans because he has two other accounts. And it ends showing him being banned live mid-stream. EDIT: Typo

[@RemedieX]

Bro looked at chat every time the dude cheated lol.

[@jeremiahwallace4480]

It’s funny how the playstyle with walls is the exact same as without 😂

[@Kosovo1G]

This is the most normal Widowmaker gameplay I've seen...

[@KlebinDaBoca]

IP bans are stupid because people can play on the same LAN or subnet as a cheater and become collateral. IP bans are pretty much ineffective because once you get rid of your current gateway IP and get a new one (which can be as easy as a calling your ISP and faking an internet issue), you're ready to go again. MAC/hardware bans, however, are much more effective since you'll pretty much have to buy new hardware (or go through the process of rewriting shit manually which many people doesn't know how to do). TL;DR: HW bans = good; IP bans = bad.

[@MegaOzmoz]

12:07 that lucio micro tracking humanly impossible

[@yere7851]

the lucio jumped so he was moving in a predictable trajectory

[@DaisiesTC]

@@yere7851 ok but nobody is going to perfect headtrack the entire trajectory, they would be aiming where he's going instead lmfao

[@NoeNoeSquare]

​@@yere7851A Lucio's head is not a predictable easy to perfectly track target. When we say predictable motion we're referring to a bap jumping and you holding your crosshair where you know his head will cross, or you playing soldier and smooth tracking his body from distance, not you playing widow and tracking without a millisecond of time off target on a Lucio's head.

[@reinettetinekerr219]

@@yere7851 and that's not how widowmaker players play I believe. It's easier to do a small flick than to track a jumping target. Plus it is also a waste of time

[@merryunbirthday7198]

Absolutely agree, it is even more gross if you see it in .10 speed in replay. Physically not possible

[@rotroot795]

Ommggg it irks me so much both times the Lucio head tracking happened, Jay looked away both times so he'll never see it

[@quackattackz]

“Hey wait I’ve seen this cheater before” “What do you mean he’s brand new”

[@Xokzu]

Imagine having decent game sense and still needing to cheat

[@t9mothy649]

the sigma clip that the guy told u to slow down was the most blatant because hes clearly micro adjusting against his aim assist thats why is jiggles back and forth no legit player will EVER do that while tracking

[@jayandremcmurtry7331]

watch 10:05 at ,25 speed that's beyond a shadow of a doubt.

[@oliverbs0417]

I know and he missed it 2x by looking at chat

[@zackbregman4947]

tbf, i heard travers footsteps behind and on side in that whole video

[@texmexsupreme1816]

Doesn't seem like cheats imo. Most of his angles and peeks are based on sound and logical positioning. If he's ceating he's doing a good job of making it seem like a good player

[@Teg8621]

Me sitting here yelling at him to look at the tracking on the Lucio lmao

[@danielmastia87]

10:05 the tracking on the Lucio is a lock-on, and on 12:15 Jay looks away just as that same moment is played in slo-mo

[@honeycrispsnail4032]

how do you even get a duo to cheat with you?? like hypothetically, if i ever brought up legitimately trying to cheat with one of my friends, they’d never play with me again. to have a friend who’s like “yeah, sure man, let me download some hacks too!” is just scummy and weird. i will never understand cheater duos.

[@bazzfromthebackground3696]

I swear I have seen *other* cheater vods with that Widow in them. Like, several vods.

[@lvl10hunter]

It’s the locks on tracer blinks that gave the widow away

[@joemomma2967]

You just watched his entire game and didn’t see a single instance or evidence of him cheating in any way. Never seen this dude in my life either.

[@philpeters3689]

Not using the Ult is a clear giveaway to wall hacks lol. Case closed

[@naqibqari3093]

min 7:04 when he threw the grenade was suspicious

[@michals1108]

Dafran famous player also been using wall hacks once when playing in quick play with me but it was couple months ago, I was stupid and didn’t copy replay file

[@SomeKindaHero117]

Considering that OW2 is Free to Play, I'm not even surprised at the amount of cheaters

[@jplayzow]

It hasn't changed a whole lot. Overwatch has constantly had a host of cheaters even during its $60 phase

[@SomeKindaHero117]

@@jplayzow You have a point

[@Simi1024]

Him trying to ruin overwatch's reputation like that is just so cowardly

[@jplayzow]

He's tracking the tracer way too hard to be legit but also it's not nearly as obvious as a bronze in gm

[@thehoneysprite]

I like how their support was like "report our dps, theyre cheating" then proceeds to continue to heal them....

[@crashgpx]

The biggest thing is the consistency. Players on this level are good yeah, flicks, aim, flank awareness. The thing is that they’re ALWAYS on point, even times that they shouldn’t be, like that sigma shot while they had walls, why would they fight the sig, instead of repositioning to hit the supps? Not really a good player myself, it just seemed off to me to do that. Edit: Doesn’t help his case that he’s openly ban evading, which does go against OW ToS.

[@pooreli]

he got unbanned not long after being banned, his friend did a video on the situation. idk the legitimacy of it all

[@crashgpx]

@@pooreli Yeah this guy seems to constantly be banned and unbanned, it’s legitimately the one of the weirdest things I’ve seen. i remember when flats made his video, the guy said he was banned before for “using a VPN” and was now using another account, which is ban evading.

[@lusteen6318]

Now is the type of time you just wait for the sentence " Its kenzo btw😂"

[@Rixuous]

The amount of times he pre-fired the crouching silent tracer as they were about to turn the corner.... there's no doubt they have walls. Did it at least 15 times

[@Nosferwaifu]

Someone else made a video on this guy too! Honestly its hard for me personally to tell if he's cheating or not, there are instances where its looked like he's maybe seen people through walls but honestly I cant be 100% sure which is so weird.

[@Blakes7_jrs]

He holds his ult for three minutes in the first game 💀

[@thelordofpie7157]

The way his crosshair followed peoples heads sometimes was super sus

[@Levyathyn]

15:56 tracks Illari seamlessly through the pillar.

[@bradleywynn1337]

Look at 10:06 to 10:08, You can clearly see his tracking/cheating right there.

[@doops8165]

tracking is something that every top dps/flex supp player can do; pretty much every player for the team i coach can do that and on top of that he missed lol

[@OblivionPrime]

yep perfect tracking

[@marxmanw3877]

​@@doops8165t500 has good tracking and you can tell when its real unlike this cheating freak.

[@andreamicheli2575]

​@@doops8165You would flick to where the Lucio head will be, not perfectly track the whole trajectory. He is playing Widow not Soldier.

[@ZERO-tb8du]

@@andreamicheli2575 lucio was mid jump. best chance for u to get a shot as a widow / hitscan

[@lovelysix6296]

I was literally one shorted by a Hanzo through a wall in quick play. I saw it through the replay. Insane how his cheat system failed so bad that he killed me through a wall

[@637marleyy]

That's called backtrack

[@M6tcgapx]

Just so everyone knows, the guy has been banned like 5 times for cheating and claimed to have more accounts that haven't been banned

[@Risinqq]

Source

[@danielkim9997]

This guy is a streamer under the same name. He's streaming widow right now.

[@hachiibuzz]

When i encounter these type of players and I say something i usually get bullied in the chat by their entire team and probably get reported too cuz why not

[@zubungothebest3825]

I thought you were talking about necros lol

[@EndlessApocalypse]

From 9:30 - 10:15 it was stupidly obvious there was wall hacks and toggle lock on. He pre-fired tracer that didnt peak and then obviously locked onto the lucio mid air. It was subtle until that point

[@iSuckAtGamesGG]

he 100% made a new account, which explains why he doesn't have the gold gun for widow, but in flats he does

[@mentarium9741]

sometimes you take off the gold gun though. especially for certain skins that look better without. i've done it plenty. that's not proof of much. account level would be much better but blizzard decided to get rid of that

[@BreakersOnMyWrists]

9:32 she didn't see tracer, she has no Intel, yet she still fired knowing full well Tracer isn't flanking or positioning elsewhere. She knows tracers over there. Either top tier game sense or this widows BLATANTLY WALLHAXXIIING

[@Bigzoe202Gaming]

I like how they want their dps to be reported after winning the game

[@levirooney9957]

actually really scummy to wait until the game is over to tell people your tm8s are cheating.

[@kiraokami6965]

Wasn't sure if this was the same guy as Flats' video as I recalled him and KarQ in a match with a similar name trying to plug a Hello Fresh account or something when Flats and KarQ were on Defense. Then you showed the clip and, yep, same guy. According to Flats' video, him and KarQ were playing against him and he was accused of cheating. Think he was teamed with one of the supports. They first decided to draw, but someone on the other side decided to push the win. They reviewed the replay and Flats decided he was and reported him. He (widow) headshots a Cassady and then does it again a few seconds later immediately when the immortality drops after the Mercy rezzed him. A split second frame shot. Usually, that's where those videos end, but evidently, KarQ had some more footage from a day or two later. Not only did Q CATCH him being banned while livestreaming, but also making the comment about how he had two more accounts, this wasn't his first time being banned, and if this one was banned, he'd make another one, yada, yada, yada. Since he's back, it's another account. Blizzard really needs to not just ban accounts, but IPs since so many cheaters are simply making another account after being banned.

[@ryanmoore5643]

man can you imagine, being banned for cheating and then going back to cheating??? like bro you were dumb enough to get caught once it'll happen again until ip bans occur. I mean yeah he can just make a new account but like he's creating a loop that only one thing can stop. And thats being good enough to not use hacks at all!

[@Xeyvian]

12:46 I've ran into 20 or so people with the same name in game. There are 2 profiles of the liveleak guy with exactly the same names on OW search, both level 1s and both locked. So looks like he just re-created the account.

[@spacerocket6915]

I think it’s funny how other games you can’t tell if someone’s cheating, but you play overwatch and everyone has a sixth sense that somethings off. Even funnier as a player when you do things like twofish to purposely bait them into making their cheats more obvious. The way he baited the widow shot without even peaking a side first point was hilarious

[@incognitomode940]

What if he did a vid of bronze vs gm buts bronze has wall hacks for the whole game

[@Jartran72]

so he is not the normal bronze with rage hacks, he is actually a decent player with okay game sense. You can tell they have some mechanical skill when they would keep their crosshair perfeclty on the same spot when moving, they knew how to set up against tracers blinking in. They are certainly capable of plat-diamond. Though it is painfully obvious that they have walls and there are some quite sus moments in there too regarding aim. The one that stood out most to me was at 10:06. If you slow it down you can see the soft aimlock tracking inhumanly perfect. Though in normal speed it looked fine. It is a nice change of pace to see a better cheater for once.

[@amphorax]

everytime i look over at chat theres one - four people just yappin random shit

[@cawfeecatt1553]

2:40 twofish might be wall too here.

[@exterminator1776]

Love how they're trying to hide it with sonic and widow ult

[@Mikuroko69]

And that's why Player boarders should come back and Private Profiles should go away. I don't mind the "toxicity" that comes with it. We have plenty of that already, makes no difference.

[@stormyseas5193]

Wasnt there a flats video with the same guy a while back? That name looks familiar

[@vape42069]

These guys were apart of the Samito video where both dps on both teams were rage hacking lol

[@xathlak]

He literally tracks some peoples heads when they're behind walls and they don't have any skills giving visiblity. Also pre-fires sometimes when people don't actually come out from behind the wall and he shouldn't know they're there.

[@DeathcoreCowboy]

Nah, thats just Kephrii on his alt account where he doesnt hide in the sky and hold Valorant angles all game

[@arthurhouston5685]

Even if he is cheating normally cheaters arent this good. Hes probably the cheater with the best game sense we have seen on this channel.

[@ambralemon]

Issue is, the argument "good players don't cheat" is sadly just copium, a half-truth since everywhere but at top level that's usually the case considering cheats will inevitably boost you for a while, but- at the top level, even tho OW top player don't usually actually care too much since there's little to gain from it lately, those who do and are willing to cheat get a great deal of advantage over non-cheaters, even at the same skill level. No amount of gamesense can fill the void of an enemy's active attempt to be unpredictable. If in a situation it's literally a 50/50 on what your prediction on their position will be, you'll 1) have just a rough estimate of it without cheats and 2) still have a chance to have predicted wrong. With walls you remove those issues

[@duskzer0816]

Widow was only waiting ta corners when someone was coming. Clearly walling lol

[@glassyloss4715]

Ngl I've been watching this guy for a while fully aware he cheats.. what's funny about him is he still often plays with them off? Like, completely off.. he still plays fine when that happens too. Pretty weird he hacks at all because he definitely isn't the worst

[@hythere]

Looks like Liveleak has a triggerbot

[@brownboy0357]

At 15:55 I’m not really sure but I think he saw two fish by walling but didn’t wanna make it obvious so he ultra for walls, not sure but it was weird for sure

[@brownboy0357]

And more than that, it’s not like he saw him shoot from their pov so it’d be hard to argue that they know they were there

[@doops8165]

he heard the shot go off on his left so he looked, honestly i dont think he is cheating and if he is, then he doesnt need to bc he hides it so well that it seems pointless

[@Warpgate8]

Not hacking some people have point to bone gamesense when u play a game for so long u build habits like pathways and shit.

[@rubenk.6004]

I wish blizzard had the money and means to ban cheater live during the game as Riot do

[@hoppake-nl]

I literally just watched the one from Flats with the same cheater from like a year ago or something. The kid was pissed off when he was banned lol

[@sachko_ow]

9:54 to 10:14 , please guys, stop saying his aim is legit xD

[@ZERO-tb8du]

they were literly mid jump bro if a enemy is midjump and you are a hanzo or a widow or mcree or even soldier you SHOULD BE ABLE TO HIT THE SHOTS if not then go and practice

[@sachko_ow]

@@ZERO-tb8du I can, it's just too clean here, too perfect. It's not legit that's all. I mean, look at the tracking xD Are you blind?

[@Boydgraud]

what did we expect from someone named liveleakklub LMAO

[@EliXMommyOcco]

i wanna see some hardware bans make these cheaters really work for it if they want to play again

[@Berna505_]

10:06 tracking on lucion goes crazy wtf

[@CoDJumpMaster]

He missed half the obvious softlocks by looking at chat lol