Jaynalysis: Courtney's Downward Spiral

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[@kokroughtoss1257]

Weird isn't it. Courtney who started out as a sorta nice girl with a bit of an ego who wanted to win and turned into a selfish monster who cheated and manipulated others to win. Meanwhile, Heather started out as a selfish monster who cheated and manipulated others to win and turned into a sorta nice person with a bit of an ego who wanted to win. It's like Courtney was given the Anakin Skywalker character arc while Heather was given the Vegeta character arc.

[@nicholassims9837]

In a slight defense towards Heather , as far as I could tell, she never did a reckless, selfish borderline idotic stunt that nearly put others at risk. Akin to Vegeta letting Cell become perfect for a better fight or purposely becoming a Majin to goad Goku to fight him despite it bring what brings Buu back as Misterfision talks about in his Dragonball Dissection in Cell arc and Buu arc part 12s . Or Discord abiet for more selfless reasons but disgusting himself as Grogar and reuniting 3 villains Queen Crystlist, Tirek and Cozy Glow to attack Twilight to gain her confidence wasn't a smart move as Misantropny said on her channel . As far as I can tell Heather never had a Majin or Grogar moment

[@nicholassims9837]

You know despite their villainous natures I feel Heather and Alejandro would still be good or at the very least pretty decent parents; I mean I can't really see the two being any worse then Vegeta was during the early Android arc .

[@edencieslowski9310]

Yep, they threw Courtney to the trash

[@11th-lemon]

I don't think Heather ever became nicer. She just suffered from villain decay like any other main antagonist. The only nice thing I ever recall her doing is showing mercy for Sierra after she went bald.

[@nicholassims9837]

@@11th-lemon she did also confront Courtney herself after the kiss . Much like Vegeta, Heather is still unpleasant but not a monster.

[@SnailQueenForever]

I hate what they did to Courtney honestly

[@Duniyah35]

Same

[@thankunext5602]

same i was rooting for her in season one it was such a missed opportunity they screwed her over big time and just forgot all about her character development and relationships in the second and 3rd season and don't even get me started on all stars

[@noah_farmer]

Especially in all stars

[@bingobo2551]

@@thankunext5602 wait what about world tour?

[@thankunext5602]

​@@bingobo2551 i accidently wrote 2rd instead of 3rd lol

[@Zpanda1000]

I think from Courtney's perspective, she tried being polite and respectful and following all the rules only to get voted off by someone cheating in the game. So she felt she was entitled to the win and a fair shot at the money and refused to accept her own shortcomings. Her best redemption would actually come from NOT winning the money but instead taking her loss maturely and realizing that her relationships are more important than the game

[@mrreyes5004]

Okay, see, this is why I prefer actual friggin' _fanfiction_ over what the TD writers did to the characters; seriously, just read "Change of Plans" by JoeMerl and/or "Candy For Your Thoughts?" by Strix Moonwing. Even though only the latter is finished, they both did _so_ much more justice to Courtney's character (specifically right around the time the Courtney-Duncan-Gwen bs popped off after "Greece's Pieces" in TDWT) and do so almost exactly the way you mentioned - her remembering her promise to play _politely, with integrity_ and most of all that the people around her take priority over a big pile of green paper. I know fanfiction gets a bad rep for being cringy and amateur-level storytelling (not entirely unfounded, I admit) but these stories subverted that expectation entirely and actually treat characters like Courtney with the respect she's been deserving for the last decade and a half.

[@xd_lolxd_lol4385]

this one, Unfortunate that writers can't see this

[@evanholloway1692]

Harold only got Courtney eliminated to get revenge on Duncan for bullying him.

[@GemSurge95]

@@mrreyes5004 Thanks for the suggestions! I'm always looking for good fanfics! I'm a fanfic writer myself. Yes. Unfortunately most fanfics are cringe. Though there are some that can be some of the best literature you've ever read.

[@GemSurge95]

@@mrreyes5004 Have you read Total Drama Comeback by The Kobold Necromancer? It's definitely one of the most popular and oldest fics for Total Drama. They fix a lot of problems with the characters that happen after TDI. They also add depth to minor characters like Ezekial and Tyler.

[@trainerhex3354]

Season 1 Courtney would not be proud of who she’s become. And while I don’t think the writers had any deep reasonings for it, I at least like to think that Total Drama broke her. For the first time in her life she’s in a situation where rules are basically thrown out the window. Total Drama is the one thing she can’t conquer and her need to conquer it has pretty much become an addiction and taken her over.

[@gracekim25]

Um given what Chris puts the stars through, that makes TOO MUCH SENSE

[@Doctor4077]

Well yeah, being on a reality show with an increasingly sadistic host that is willing to do anything for "ratings" (if not for his own sick amusement) will do that to anyone. Hell, a lot of characters changed from their season 1 selves. Look at Gwen, Trent, Leshawna, and Duncan. The only person that changed for the "better" was Heather.

[@om58499]

@@Doctor4077 and that why i like Chris i mean the last total drama had a new host and I barely remember him.

[@masterDarts4188]

Sadly that's life. Not everyone develops for the better and some people spiral into worse versions of themselves.

[@shockwavespider3942]

I feel bad for her if total drama never happened nor got voted off due to Harold Rigging the votes or something along those lines like the suitcase being eaten by the shark she wouldn’t have taken a level of jerk ass and gotten help about being allowed to focus on something other than academics the path of greatness and winning be much nicer have a much better and happier life.

[@theearthkingdom7537]

Basically Courtney was a good character in season 1 and then after that the Writers completely ruined her character

[@carlacarrero4975]

The writters so have a biased against her

[@noah_farmer]

I liked her actually until all stars. She should’ve been in the finale but they were so geared to have a mal/zoey finale they made her unbearable the last few episodes

[@venturatheace1]

Same with Gwen

[@Masked_Mastermind]

It's like how Dave used to be a decent character in the beginning of Pahkitew Island but then the writers completely ruined him as a character in the later episodes.

[@TheAeroAvatar]

We need to tell these writers, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH .

[@comfort7383]

i wish courtney stayed a caring character

[@petros6013]

Yeah

[@dazzlingwaffle8543]

Ikr

[@AGJ117]

There was a scene in World Tour where Owen and Izzy got crushed by the plane and she was the only one trying to help them. It was nice to see, but then the Duncan and Gwen love triangle made it's way through and she became awful again.

[@dazzlingwaffle8543]

@@AGJ117 I mean she did kiss her boyfriend but it’s her fault and Duncan’s fault but mostly hers cause she gave him a 100 page paper list about what to change about him if they was going to be In a relationship and I hated that and that probably or is the reason he kissed Gwen

[@alexisschiffer4830]

I loved her friendship with Bridgette. She seemed like one of the few people who didn’t hate/dislike Courtney by the end of season 3. I wish Bridgette was on Team Amazon instead of Team Victory.

[@Brandon_Alexander456]

I'm gonna be the minority that will say this. I liked Courtney as one of the main villains Season 2. People seem to not realize on what a Fallen Hero is. She was level headed and mature and knew what she was doing, and due to her elimination in Season 1, that led to her insanity and selfishness and hotheaded moments. I see that as character development, and I like that. She IS a Fallen Hero.

[@jamallox1125]

Yeah I agree , it seems like everyone has this preconceived idea of what character development is . Her going from mature and occasionally feisty into just flat out a-hole is character development .

[@Paula-zt9ol]

@@jamallox1125 I agree that it is definitely character development, but it is a negative one. I just think people wanted a more positive or nuanced character development for her!

[@antilikka]

I always thought the same 🤷‍♀️

[@zrexy79s11]

Finally, someone who gets it.

[@zrexy79s11]

@@jorjorbanks8876 The show doesn't do that, its the audience that does.

[@joeyburkhart6602]

Fun fact. Bridgette is Courtney’s only listed friend. Everyone else is listed as a enemy.

[@meyoutuberfrend]

These arey fav 2 😂 I guess it's destiny I didn't even know that

[@wig.snatcher]

I swear all stars ruined every single character

[@carlacarrero4975]

@Dennise Hernandez no offense as a Gwen fan even I admit that Allstars is her redemption season and it shows

[@hayamihinata4135]

@@carlacarrero4975 I agree with you there, like the only character who got better in All Stars aside from Gwen was maybe Scott and Alejandro. Lindsay became even dumber, so did Lightning. Jo existed only to get rid of Lightning and to argue with Heather. Sam didn’t need to be in All Stars, he was just boring. Heather was made into an idiot, who got strung along by Alejandro. Sierra was made creepy and Cameron was used for her plot and little else. Zoey was hit with the idiot stick, and do I even need to explain what they did wrong with Mike?

[@carlacarrero4975]

@@hayamihinata4135 actually the jo thing had built up in revenge of the island also heather has always been like this just look at island for example and well I feel like Sierra while her creepyness is isn’t on the same level as world tour cause she gets worse it was still there on purpose cause Sierra was probably written to be super creepy and to show how actually creepy stalkers are or something like in worl tour is not just Cody that feels that way even Gwen and heather demonstrate that they feel like Sierra is creepy too

[@carlacarrero4975]

@Dennise Hernandez hey me too

[@rawr5337]

@@TheCoolSuperPea I 100% agree😭

[@youraveragenickel2177]

Personally, I think that Courtney's downward spiral was actually kicked off because she was unfairly kicked out in season 1 in addition to Duncan convincing her to be bad. I don't think she would've became so antagonistic if both of those events hadn't happened. Also I unironically like Courtney and Scott together. It weirdly makes a lot of sense? With better writing I think it actually could've been good.

[@carlacarrero4975]

I also like Scott and Courtney together when Courtney is with Scott she feels like a nicer person while still having her tuff ness and they were cute and wholesome unlike duncney which is just fighting and having makeouts no hate on the ship just saying the writters so ruined her and the relationship and I think it was so stupid how they tried to use the Cameron kissing Courtney thing to make Courtney into a hypocrite so Gwen could have something against her like it’s not the same thing also have you notice how weirdly Courtney acted around zoey

[@youraveragenickel2177]

@@carlacarrero4975 Yeah, Duncan and Courtney were really toxic together. Also, the Cameron thing was really stupid. It's not like she kissed him intentionally, I have no idea what they were thinking with that. I don't know what was with her irrational hatred for Zoey either. It wasn't really explained other than Zoey was athletic I guess??

[@hayamihinata4135]

@@youraveragenickel2177 I think it was because she saw Zoey as being a big post merge threat, which was fair she did make it to the final three the previous season and only lost because she chose to help Cameron last minute.

[@youraveragenickel2177]

@@hayamihinata4135 That's fair, I just wish her hatred would've started when they weren't on the same team. I'd assume she'd want to keep Zoey around during the team phase so that they could win challenges easier, not just instantly start planning to eliminate her.

[@carlacarrero4975]

@@youraveragenickel2177 I have a theory on why Courtney hates zoey I think Courtney was being possessive of Gwen cause Gwen was probably her only actual real friend that she has ever had and Courtney subconsciously was afraid that Zoey would take that away

[@GenZealous]

Courtney’s downward spiral is actually an interesting way to develop her character, butttt the fact that they’ve kept developing her as that way five seasons by now without a hint of redemption is annoying and probably infuriating to big Courtney fans.

[@SimulatedGoat]

BUTT

[@jfduug4994]

as a courtney fan yeah i’m super annoyed 😭 she and gwen could’ve had a super great and healthy friendship i just want the fiery student counselor with no social skills girl back lmao

[@angietoonz6605]

yeah, i still claim courtney as my favorite character but it annoys me so much.

[@jorjorbanks8876]

Courtney downward spiral isn't what's bad per say, it's just who she becomes is what's horrible.

[@justcallmeeastia7947]

Yeah fr, seriously, I'm over here and i can't deny how upset i am for how they made her this way

[@alexisschiffer4830]

Bridgette seemed like one of the few people who didn’t despise Courtney even after the first three seasons. It was nice to see their interactions when they both in the Killer Bass in season 1. I wish they stayed close. Bridgette should’ve been on Team Amazon imo in World Tour. Not Team Victory. Plus, both of them seemed pretty cool with Gwen (before the Duncan love triangle).

[@danstolte8102]

By now it’s pretty well-established that Courtney isn’t extremely good at making friends. Bridgette is really the only one that we can safely say was her true friend from the get-go. I think the “friendship” between Gwen and Courtney was shoehorned and tenuous at best. I just don’t ever remember Gwen getting such a hardcore desire to befriend a Courtney before season five. But maybe that’s just my faulty memory.

[@wrongplant4694]

If Bridgette was on Team Amazon, who would move to Team Victory

[@veronicajuarez423]

@@wrongplant4694 team Amazon could have been the 6 person team instead of team victory

[@wrongplant4694]

@@veronicajuarez423 I forgot about that. Now that I think about it, if Gwuncan still happened and Courtney got very angry, would Bridgette have trouble picking a side? Since she’s close with both of them.

[@bored9277]

@@danstolte8102 they were very close in WT because they bonded over history

[@otakupower1048]

I hate how they changed so many character’s development from season one in negatives ways that basically just ruined the character for me. I feel like the only good change I can think of is Heather.

[@kamranbaxter8709]

Or Cody (if you ask me)

[@allendepacheco3419]

I remember hating what they did to Trent by bringing that lucky number nine that resulted in a break up with Gwen in season 2. They really did Trent dirty and tried to demonize Gwen to make the plot interesting, but it failed at least to me. The nine thing is way too out of place, and all that romance built up in season was for nothing. I don't mind if they break up, but they should've done a better job.

[@TheCoolSuperPea]

Something I feel NOBODY talks about is Geoff. He was one of my favorites in Island, but in Action they ruined him, and nobody seems to care. Poor Geoff deserved better, at least he won RR.

[@nessys6450]

@@TheCoolSuperPea ? didn’t the cops win

[@meremere5356]

@@TheCoolSuperPea Disagree, Geoff was awesome in the aftermaths.

[@rawr5337]

Courtney swearing is soul healing😩✋😌

[@boomexplosivo]

FR there is something oddly therapeutic and realistic about it

[@k-leb4671]

Well she would totally swear a lot, especially from season 2 onwards. She would probably consider it a major form of catharsis. Unfortunately this is a kid's show.

[@irongirltoni]

Ikr I watched it over like 5 times

[@reyfan011]

I know her character isn’t all about her romances. But I can’t help but think how interesting it would be if Courtney started dating Trent. She wants to become a lawyer, his father is a lawyer, she loves to sing, Trent is a musician. They both can relate to feeling wronged by Duncan and Gwen. Courtney can teach Trent to be more selfish and not such a push over like how he gave up challenges for Gwen. Trent can teach Courtney how to chill and channel her emotions into songs.

[@WarCrimeGaming]

Opinions ahead : I don't see this ship working. I find really uninteresting, lazy and boring (The same can be said about Gwuncan) . And it's certainly not a good way to fix the infamous and hated "Love" Triangle. The only thing this attempt would do is rise the tensions even more. Also, Courtney and Trent talked like 3 times to each other. I prefer Duncney (Island) and Gwent (Island) all the way.

[@danstolte8102]

I am not one to endorse the shipping aspect of TD, but I always thought it would be hilarious to see Courtney go steady with Trent, too. But, after doing more harm than good with his character, I can see why they wouldn’t want to bring back Trent. I think that particular character has been played out and as badly written as he can possibly take. Which is terribly unfortunate because Trent was made out to be a character that we all wanted to genuinely cheer for in season one.

[@jake90009]

@@WarCrimeGaming Courtney is too stuck up. She called Trent a loser once.

[@paigeturner7513]

reyfan011 This.... is... interesting🤭. I also at one point thought about this. Though I thought about like if the two ever went out, it mostly be out of pity; considering these two have limted interactions with eachother. I can see them being friends on a nuetral or mutual understanding. Courtney at first in the aftermath wanted to side with everyone calling him a "loser by choice" but when Trent explains about the number 9 related to his grandfather Courtney wanted to change her answer. In addition she got emotinal like Katie and Sadie did when he played a song in the aftermath about the breakup. I really think there's a lot about Courtney we don't know about or the writers never explain. My theory about Courtney is this: 1. Fact: she only mentions her mother in the series Theory: He parents got a divorced possibly may have been the fact that her father wouldn't change certain tendecies about himself to help support his family. Leading into the next fact. 2. Fact: Courtney attempts to "change" Duncan. Backtrack: Courtney found Duncan attractive enough to kiss in season 1. Theory: Courtney misguided attempts to "change" him was not for his looks. She misinterprets this as she actually wants Duncan to be more faithful and true to her and her feelings and not flirt with other girls while the two were dating. Though because Duncan is a badboy and no one can tell him what to do Courtney's fear ends up being a reality; the fear that she can't control him. (Kinda wish Dawn became more of prominent character to unveil about Courtney's actual past) Evidence: Courtney points out in season 2 how Duncan was quick to flirt and bond with Gwen.( even during the fact that Gwen and Trent was still dating) so Courtney pretty much became toxic to Duncan in season 2 due to the fact of his disloyalty. Backtracking #2 Harold eliminates Courtney. Lindsay tells Courtney in Haute-Campture no one didn't like her that much. These moments possibly led to think that Courtney never actually made any friends and when it came to episode 27 in season 1 she wanted the million for herself( possibly with the thought that Duncan could leave her for the million though this is kinda what happened in Duncan's finale in season 2 and Courtney actually wanted to win season 2. )So she comes back to season 2 with the hopes of being catered like heather was in season 1. Since while remebering what Lindsay has said she decides to make everyone her competion including teammates. Courtney is an excellent strategist but I do feel like she was robbed her chances of winning a season. Overall, I felt like Courtney just wanted to win and the fact that she might've had a dark past where she always in some way loses in her life just saddens me😔

[@olaf-chan-728]

​@@WarCrimeGaming trent talked to someone besides cody and gwen?!?!!?!?!!

[@Amica_friz]

I think that her parents might have been the ones pushing her to doing all the activities she has done, maybe they where the type of parents who want their child to be good at everything and being the so to speak "perfect kid", therefore when Courtney does for the first time a bad thing she is thrilled and wants to do more since she was raised to always act good. I actually think one or both of her parents might be lawyers witch would explain why she knowa so much about the law. P.S. i think an analysis about alejandro, would be really good since he is a really intersting character

[@carlacarrero4975]

Wait I have a new theory what if Courtney’s mom is also her lawyer

[@nessys6450]

smart

[@annasullivan6502]

Yeah it has to do with her lable too type A people are usually competitive and impatient which to some isn't a good thing .

[@BrandonByers7]

that would actually explain a lot

[@MangoMagica]

I like this head canon!

[@MusicGirl881]

In TDI when Courtney was the caring character I really liked her, but as she turned into the entitled preppy brat character I couldn’t stand her being on screen. They should have left her as she was.

[@suelee7620]

Yes. I agree x100.

[@arianavxoiet9050]

@@suelee7620 Um first of all. Lets not forget that GWEN KISSED HER BOYFRIEND?!! THATS THE WHOLE DAMN REASON WHY COURTNEY ACTED LIKE THIS IN SEASON 3. GWEN ACTS AWFUL, BETRAY'S COURTNEY'S TRUST AND GETS NO PUNISHEMENT FOR THIS AT ALL, MEANWHILE COURTNEY HAS TO FACE ALL THE CRITICISMS FOR DOING NOTHING WRONG!! COURTNEY BEING MEAN TO GWEN WAS TOTALLY JUSTIFIED. BUT JUST ONCE WHEN COURTNEY CALLS GWEN OUT ON THE STUPID, CARELESS, BOYFRIEND STEALER THAT SHE IS, THE WORLD TREATS HER LIKE SHES WRONG FOR DOING IT. COURTNEY ISNT THE VILLAIN. GWEN IS.

[@suelee7620]

@@arianavxoiet9050 Ok. Don’t have to be all rude. I was just agreeing that she should’ve stayed a caring character. Yes I agree she was a horrid bitch because the writers made her that way. I was annoyed too.

[@echoxeros5233]

@@arianavxoiet9050 Courtney literally compiled a list of Duncan's imperfections and faults in an attempt to change him.it doesn't get more disrespectful than that.im willing to bet that duncan(HE KISSED GWEN,Gwen is messed up for allowing it tho) wouldn't have did that shit had Courtney not been so overbearing.Everyone is shit.And wasn't Courtney and Duncan broken up when Duncan and Gwen kissed the first time????not saying she deserves to get cheated on,but when you make your partners imperfections PAINFULLY obvious it just makes them seem like a pet to be trained.not a partner.

[@stuartcarter6516]

@@echoxeros5233 fax

[@ShadowGirlie]

Could you talk about Gwen next. She was legit my fav character since Island, but I hated how the writers messed up her relationship with Trent and also refer to her as a villain in the All-Stars series.

[@blueweirdness4023]

Oh wow, I didn't know about her being considered a villain in All Stars since I sort of gave up on it after World Tour. I always felt that she deserved way better, though. She was my favorite character too.

[@masterDarts4188]

I wouldn't say it was messed up. It just didn't work out. It happens. But yeah, All Stars was pretty bad.

[@wrongplant4694]

Gwen used to be my favourite character, until Gwuncan happened, and as usual, All-stars didn’t fix anything

[@lapinoux6581]

@@wrongplant4694 Same!

[@bgos4727]

@@wrongplant4694 exactly

[@cutesykristiiithemeifwabus2887]

My theory is than Harold rigging Courtney out in island started her rain of rage. And then being robbed so many times by being both cheated on and losing all her friends. So I think all the bad things that happened on total drama changed her and not for the positive which people usually negatively treated her in my opinion because of her lack of experience with real friends or relationships

[@jbcatz5]

She’s definitely competitive and both Duncan and Harold contribute to her personality from that point on by showing that breaking the rules can be exhilarating and more successful than just playing by rules. Unlike Duncan, Heather etc, basically the less scrupulous characters, Courtney never learns the limits and exposes herself more as a liability instead of an asset.

[@stuartcarter6516]

@@jbcatz5 Really? Because Duncan called her out in Season 2 when she didn't play by the rules and she continued to do it.

[@jake90009]

She even said someone bailed on her in a school project and said "if you want something done right, you do it yourself". Doesn't state the reason that person bailed on her then says the girls first and last name, basically trying to throw her under the bus. That's proof of her not having many real relationships outside of the show. I saw her as grandiose and condescending in the first 12 episodes of TDI. I didn't think she was genuinely nice. I also don't think the writers made a mistake with how they made her character, I think that's how they intended on doing it.

[@Alicewatertribe]

A little bit disappointed her character change in Total Drama World Tour and also announced sorry I didn't recognize the character it was like a whole different person the first season 1 of Courtney's

[@carlacarrero4975]

Have any of you ever notice how hypocritical the show is when it comes to Duncan and Ezekiel like the show tells us that Ezekiel is sexist and needs to be eliminated but Duncan has said a lot of sexist remarks and no one even calls him out except Courtney not even Gwen like what the heck

[@nicholassims9837]

Yeah and Zeke didn't know any better begin homeschooled while Duncan should

[@carlacarrero4975]

@@nicholassims9837 exactly Duncan should really know better and it’s so hypocritical how this show makes a big deal when zeke does it but never says anything when Duncan does it except for Courtney

[@nicholassims9837]

@@carlacarrero4975 plus compared to that Water bending teacher Zeke really dudnt havev that much of a Stay in the Kitchene attitude

[@carlacarrero4975]

@@nicholassims9837 oh you mean that water bending teacher from avatar yeah and there’s also the fact that just like sokka zeke is still young and can learn from his behavior and correct it since it is confirm that he doesn’t have that much knowledge on the real world and in the total drama island special zeke did respect Beth and Lindsay when they told him he had to be respectful of girls

[@nicholassims9837]

@@carlacarrero4975 Maybe instead of being Sexist Zeke should have been weird a real oddball, and didn't know anything on personal space and hugged everybody and burped and tickled them , think Johnny when he was being a huge pest .

[@radiantsana]

Honestly, Action and the rest ruined Courtney’s character. I actually would’ve liked it if she stayed a caring person after season 1, maybe a little bossy, but still caring. Not a borderline psychopath.

[@panpanda9608]

While she still was showing tiny single acts of kindness (She was the one who told Chris that Owen and Izzy need help in the episode in Jamaica), I also think the creators should’ ve created for her a personality with kindness and bossiness combined.

[@shirugipan2112]

@Cookify Fan she literally said that she is a member of a band in her school called "the type A psychotics" lmaooo

[@RockinCrockks]

I personally feel like it was a good change, she was a very good way of showing a fallen hero. I do think that, yes they did do too much with her in all stars. I feel like the turn point was when the whole being bad is cool thing in season one and getting kicked off. Those were two big points in s1 for her which turned her this way, and when she didn’t get what she was working hard for, she turned “evil”. In which I feel like someone in later seasons should’ve talked about her getting kicked of unfairly or stood up for her. Maybe if the whole Duncan thing didn’t get out as fast as it did in s3 maybe Courtney could’ve talked to team Amazon about how she felt and maybe shine some light on why she became the narcissistic person. She was just a product of some wrong-doings, In my personal opinion, they did a decent job with the fallen hero trope. But I loved your discussion abt Courtney too.

[@killermothxd4085]

S1:Nice control freak S2:Evil basically the new heather S3:slightly annoying S5:The Black equivalent of a Karen

[@thomaszloi9444]

Courtney can be mixed since writers can't decide she's south asian or latina, I even made joke for one of my followers on inst and sketched her parents her dad was black jewish because people can't stop arguing about Courtney's race

[@killermothxd4085]

Lmao she’s like Connie from steven universe nobody know what tf she is 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@AGJ117]

@@killermothxd4085 The creators said that she was South Asian. I'm certain that Connie from SU is the same since her last name, Maheswaran, originates from South Asia.

[@carlacarrero4975]

@@killermothxd4085 isn’t Connie Indian thought ?

[@thomaszloi9444]

@@AGJ117 Kauffman said they didn't write or designed Courtney as any nation or race she's just like this. In season 3 creators said she and Alejandro are Hispanic, some writers said she's filipino or east-south asian

[@youtubeguest1657]

The reason why Courtney turned evil probably because A:Her elimination that was caused by Harold B:Duncan cheating on her with Gwen C:the game

[@Alien-f8z]

While I think Heather is more villainous. Courtney is more cold.

[@AqwDragulum]

Honestly Heather didn’t feel like a villain anymore after TDI

[@lederp7151]

@YourPage yeah she just becomes more Chaotic Neutral

[@Hohhot]

@@lederp7151 in TDWT she was more of an anti-hero

[@nicholassims9837]

@Bara Men She had a Hazy Feel Turn

[@tonytotals1411]

@Ryu and Chipp ( I am a girl using my dad’s account) and Courtney is more villainess because Heather did some pretty bad things but Courtney was willing to let others DIE just for the sake of her ambitions

[@Mimiscellaneous]

I will never hate Courtney - she will always be my favorite character. But the writers really did a number on her. I hope in future seasons she’s redeemed and is allowed to grow from her past mistakes. The Gwen + Courtney friendship was awesome - I hope they bring that back. I also hope that with everything that Courtney has been through, she has learned that she can’t change people and she and Duncan can reconcile. They’re really cute together and they both genuinely like each other - they’re just had some growing to do.

[@BratzRockAngels]

I agree. 💗

[@randomname1924]

They could’ve fixed Courtney in All Stars with her realizing that she’s just TOO competitive, and maybe that even if she loved Duncan, she wouldn’t want to end up like him (after breaking up and watching how he fucking explodes Chris’ mansion). Her friendship with Gwen could even extend to a friendship with Zoey, and she could’ve even had gone into the finals with the dilema of winning the money or try and save Mike (as a correct CIT would do). Even if they wanted to keep her as a semi villain (I say this because even if she was antagonistic in TDA, she didn’t outright do horrible things like Heather or Alejandro), they could’ve given her a sort of Yzma - Kronk relationship with Scott. So many missed opportunities.

[@IGummySweetieCakesAlt]

😭Man, Courtney A “FALLEN HERO” I Feel So Bad For Her

[@-stage_number_03-95]

Courtney is a trademark enneagram three. And a very unhealthy one at that. Her self worth is based on how successful she is, and how many people see that success. She doesn’t believe she is lovable on her own. So she must be loved for her accomplishments. I’m betting her parents had the mentality of, “if you do right, you can have anything you want.” She was only loved whenever she did well. And she only received gifts when she did well. I’m assuming that’s why she would lose it whenever things didn’t go her way. “I did everything right! Why can’t I be praised already?!” She’s so divided on being a winner she lost touch with the reality of people. After a few betrayals and her subconscious realization that she couldn’t handle people, I’m betting she gave up on trying to receive validation from her crew for the most part. Shifting on trying to obtain validation from the audience of the show. Thus becoming backstabbing and heartless to those around her. How the audience sees her, and her desired victory at the end was all that mattered to her. Underneath the facade, Courtney is also extremely emotional. She doesn’t know what to do with said emotions. So when she feels like she gets betrayed, that’s all she can focus on. She also can’t handle feelings of guilt or messing up. She has to be perfect to be loved. If she makes mistakes, then she isn’t worth anything. Developing some narcissistic tendencies to combat this fear. I’m sort of rambling at this point. My main point: Courtney went from bad mental health, to worse mental health, and that can happen to anyone. It’s sad, and everyone deserves redemption at the end of the day.

[@chaosstandingc4033]

Oh yeah, because I’m season two she says “I won, so why can’t I have my PRIZE yet?!” So that is probably a true analysis

[@suelee7620]

Some parents she has. I feel terrible for Courtney.

[@Duniyah35]

Can you Talk about Duncan and Gwen character developments next?

[@Duniyah35]

@Dennise Hernandez ok

[@carlacarrero4975]

Character development what character development Duncan literally digressed I get why Gwen because she does get character development but Duncan ?

[@musiclover6944]

@@carlacarrero4975 how does Gwen get character development wtf

[@AqwDragulum]

Development? Lmaoooo they fell off in World Tour

[@Duniyah35]

@@AqwDragulum she devolbs badly-

[@jackielester6473]

I love Courtney, and always will. But she’s so overhated by this fandom. She’s also very misunderstood. She got eliminated unfairly in Island, got insecure about Gwen and Duncan getting to close, got betrayed by Gwen and Duncan, start dating Scott, then Cameron kisses her and sabotage their relationship, they break up and Courtney loses another season. Courtney is very realistic and all her actions are justified. I just wish the writers handled her better.

[@jorjorbanks8876]

Honestly I think she deserves more hate. All the abuse she put in Duncan in action is overlooked and the way she's idolized on tiktok is just horrible.

[@danstolte8102]

Courtney is undoubtedly one of the more intelligent characters to enter the TD fray. However, her biggest downfall, at the end of the day, is that she always has to put herself first - which always blows up in her face. She cannot help but scheme and think that she’s superior than everyone around her. And it’s well-established, by now, that Courtney isn’t particularly good at making friends. If she would actually take time to be considerate and take the higher ground . . . than she should have a solid chance to win a TD season, but she has yet to prove she can do that. And, again, she’s a lot like Heather, but Heather won TDWT by virtue of learning from the error of her ways.

[@danstolte8102]

Duncan shouldn’t be exonerated either. He basically went out of his way to torment Courtney in TDWT for no apparent reason.

[@stuartcarter6516]

@@danstolte8102 yeah after she put him through a season of hell.

[@danstolte8102]

@@stuartcarter6516 I mean sure Courtney was still a brat, but it’s just strange that he would, all of the sudden, resort to retaliatory actions when Courtney’s absolute worst behavior (from TDA) is in the rear view mirror.

[@themidnightbat]

Excellent analysis on my favorite character, Courtney. We need a Duncan analysis now!

[@lovedop6951]

Can your next video if you can man because. Ella and to make it fair to you can vote between. 1.ella 2. Dave 3. Sugar

[@thesilverprincess]

She basically cheated in Action. Other than season 5, action made her awful

[@waikeonglim7703]

You can say that again

[@thomaszloi9444]

Only with case, she got off island unfair and won way back to s2 fairly but special treatment yes it's cheating

[@waikeonglim7703]

@@thomaszloi9444 Seriously, Harold's a total savage cheating the votes

[@carlacarrero4975]

@@thomaszloi9444 honestly it may not have been fair but it was a pretty smart thing to do and honestly Owen should’ve sued Chris for his injury

[@mrboerger1620]

I disagree Courtney was a really fun antagonist in action.

[@gergelygalvacsy2251]

We all know she was supposed to win All Stars. It was apparently the original plan for the season.

[@hayamihinata4135]

I think that the creators just disliked Courtney

[@_tl4z]

@@hayamihinata4135 I believe one of the main writers for all-stars actually HATED Courtney and basically ruined her on purpose. Iirc Courtney was pretty loved by the other writers

[@hayamihinata4135]

@@_tl4z Yeah

[@Masked_Mastermind]

@@_tl4z That explains the abomination that was "Sundae Muddy Sundae", it's like that entire episode was made solely to ruin Courtney's character development to the point where she can no longer be redeemed. She lost her friends, her boyfriend, her character growth, her dignity, everything. She was actually becoming a better person but all of that was flushed down the toilet in this episode. And her bonus clip just ruins her character even further. That episode was just as bad as "Hurl and Go Seek" since that episode completely ruined Dave as a character.

[@pepsicannot]

U know that not true

[@VigilanteLulu]

Pretty solid analysis of how the Perfectionist stained her character! I would love to see an analysis video on Izzy and her chaotic, law-dodging, bomb-blasting antics!

[@thankunext5602]

yess

[@rgg1009]

I can't resist a good character development here. And honestly, Courtney is kinda needing one.

[@rgg1009]

@DJHart Maybe positive, but if it were negative it wouldn't be too bad either. But positive would be better, since she was written as a villain most of the past seasons.

[@Dm34421]

Courtney was flanderized the most

[@hayamihinata4135]

Indeed she did

[@theamanchannel6800]

AND GWEN

[@flawlessfrenchfrie]

@@theamanchannel6800 oh my god they ruined my girl gwen so much, she was one of my favorites

[@theamanchannel6800]

@@flawlessfrenchfrie mine too

[@flawlessfrenchfrie]

@Mitsurugi Jin yup them too wow a lot of them got ruined

[@dawnieedreams]

in Basic Straining and other Island episodes, we saw Courtney actually being very close friends with Bridgette. I honestly think if Bridgette had stayed in the competition longer in other seasons, she could have been a true and close friend to Courtney, possibly helping her not go down the path she ended up going.

[@Sylvrwytch]

I actually thought Courtney's parents may have had a lot to do with her behavior. Considering her wanting to make lists of things to change about guys she dates, she might be following the only example she's known: her parents. One idea I personally think could be a possibility is that Courtney lives with a single mother. Maybe her father abandoned them, which could also have something to do with Courtney's taste in guys. First a juvenile delinquent, Duncan, and then, the "scheming farmboy" Scott, as you put it. Both Duncan and Scott are portrayed as villains in the show, and Courtney has dated them both. So maybe this taste she has for villainous boys could be a way for her to cope with her father's possible absence. Something else is that Courtney's father could be present in her life, but also be involved in criminal activities. And maybe that's part of why Courtney has so many lawyers and a taste for villainous boys. Most of all, maybe the way both of her relationships with Duncan and Scott went was because Courtney was following her parents' example. Sort of like what you said about Jade in your video on her. Maybe Courtney is controlling in relationships because that's what she views as normal because of the example she grew up with.

[@BrandonByers7]

wow that was deep

[@suelee7620]

I think so too. Not all parents are perfect. My gosh, there is no such thing as "perfection." We are all not perfect.

[@paigeturner7513]

Sylvrwytch Oh my gosh. I just said this in responding to another comment !!😳 I honestly didn't know there were other fans who also thought Courtney had a dark past in the beginning. Courtney does have a caring personality she cared about izzy and owen being severely hurt( izzy twice), she got emotional about Trent grandfather and Trent's song about his breakup and she comforted sadie when her and Katie got on two diffrent teams. This side of her is rarely shown due to betrayal. Harold, Duncan and Lindsay really sent Courtney in a downward spiral. If only Dawn and Courtney met...🤔

[@Duniyah35]

I hope to see duncney again in the new TD seasons

[@suelee7620]

Same. You're not alone.

[@yourname_7721]

Will the producers bringt one out?

[@suelee7620]

@@yourname_7721 I really don’t know

[@yourname_7721]

@@suelee7620 oh ok

[@suelee7620]

@@yourname_7721 Let’s hope

[@gabfthvf]

I always thought that they ruined Courtney's character to make way for Gwuncan. Sucks cause she was my absolute favourite, and they ruined her completely

[@nu3971]

They totally did, and they did that to Trent too. Fresh loved Duncney and Gwent but CN made them break up so Gwuncan could happen :(

[@domenicavallone28]

Courtney was literally only nice & likable in season 1. She got more aggressive, bossy, abusive, insane and extreme each season 😭 she went from being smart and ambitious to ONLY caring about winning! And she was a horrible gf

[@FairyBogFather]

So disappointed with how she was written after season 1. I feel like they could have highlighted some of her flaws without completely flanderizing her character.

[@heyitsfraser7469]

@@FairyBogFather i understand why she became more aggressive tho, harold literally cheated to get her out and nobody cared but then when she sued to get back in everyone accused her of cheating. I would of acted the same way

[@SamuraiGirl02]

@@heyitsfraser7469Plus they were hostile to her when she tried to be civil, further fueling her downward spiral and villainous behaviors. Such as her team blaming her for Owen’s elimination (even though they voted her off despite a heads up she had immunity for that round, thus wasting their votes).

[@Raccoon-Galaxy17]

Been waiting for this do we get a Duncan analysis someday

[@neptuniamarina4924]

Honestly? I didn't mind Courtney & Scotts relationship in All Stars, It was one of the few good developments of that season (before the infamous episode of course) Granted, That might be because Scott is one of the very, very few characters All Stars didn't ruin

[@zahra27khan]

Courtney can choose to grow into a caring and empathetic adult if they choose to bring her character back to the ground. Plenty of people are douchy in their youth then eventually learn to grow and care about anything beyond themselves. I would really love seeing a redemption arc bc that would be better development than anything we got with her out of control downward spiral

[@marquezwilliams9076]

Why do people keep thinking courtney was a saint? Yes she was a little sweet in season 1 but she was still a spoiled princess who judge everyone on the EXACT things she refuses to do. She didn't want to jump off the cliff, she kept mentioning every time about her being a cit, she judged everyone about having fears yet she couldn't overcome her own worse fear. Yes harold was wrong for getting her unfairly kicked off but like lindsey told her on the spa place she would have just gotten kicked off anyway because of how she was.

[@FairyBogFather]

Really hope Courntey gets a redemption and that she and Duncan get back together! Their dynamic was so cute and wholesome in season 1.

[@Jmoney720]

Courtney deserves a second chance to fix what she has done

[@suelee7620]

Agreed

[@warriorofdramaclan8107]

True :(

[@KanaHyoshi]

Courtney not learning from her mistakes could have lead to a fun arc with Gwen befriending her and teaching her humility.

[@theearthkingdom7537]

I really hope they do fix Courtney in the reboot because I really liked her in season 1

[@suelee7620]

Same

[@nutellatubby1943]

They were able to redeem Heather of all people, they could definitely redeem Courtney if they wanted to

[@lexycocoa9979]

Personally I don't really hate Courtney, I'm just disappointed that she turn into Heather after she found out that Harold voted her off just to get back at Duncan.

[@julianbigelow2794]

In the first season, Harold tampered with the votes to get rid of Courtney. He did this to get revenge against Duncan. I remember watching that episode and thinking A, that really isn't fair and B, why wouldn't Harold just tamper with the votes, so that Duncan gets voted out? Looking back on that episode, I am glad that Harold tampered with the votes to get rid of Courtney.

[@CrystalClearWith8BE]

Ever since World Tour and even All Stars, she have a lot of character derailments in there and especially even in her love triangle with Duncan and Gwen. The love triangle have the worst character derailments of all in Total Drama.

[@SwaggyKitty101]

Bruh she was SO annoying in Action. (And World Tour and All Stars)💀

[@SwaggyKitty101]

@Owen and Izzy Fan I understand that but she was still doing to much. Like just because she was mad at Gwen didn't she had to throw challenges and crap /:

[@SwaggyKitty101]

@Owen and Izzy Fan idk, I still think Courtney was doing too much in World Tour

[@11th-lemon]

I never really understood why everyone seems to like her so much. Although she was cool in the first season (in fact, her interactions with Duncan in TDI are among the best interactions ever in the series), she just became annoying in the others. Also, she isn't coming back in the new seasons. They will feature a new cast.

[@njyawndra8609]

Well people still like her even after her fall. People just stay dedicated to characters.

[@davidkonevky7372]

Let's not forget the biggest offense of all, making her and Duncan break up in season 1 by force, and taking out the opportunity of her to grow as a person

[@thesilverprincess]

Suggestion: Beast Boy from Teen Titans. I feel like he would be interesting to look into, and I’m still curious as to why he was the only character in the episode Mad Mod to actually be affected by the Hypnoscreens. I know he’s comic relief but that’s like saying Courtney has lawyers because the voice actress wanted more attention.

[@yasminemurray5417]

AHHH a Courtney video! She's probably the most interesting character to analyze (imo at least)

[@danielmcallister7873]

I feel like it was so genius for the TDI writers to include Courtney as an additional villain other than Heather. It’s so interesting to compare and contrast the two because they’re so similar yet so different. At the end of the day Courtney is smarter but Heather could whoop her ass 😂

[@nu3971]

@@danielmcallister7873 Heather in season 1 relied too much on others (Lindsay and Beth) for the competition, and Courtney was kinda wimpy, but in season 3 Heather was on her A-game which was great to see and Season 2 Courtney dominated the challenges tbh, she kept winning immunity. I'd like to think that before she went on Action she had time to train or something.

[@TheRedRoseofJujutsuKaisen]

I actually like Courtney changed of character because as the series went on we slowly start seeing her fall into a worse version of herself. Also when you think about it, it kinda makes sense because Courtney wasn’t exactly a perfect character to begin with in the first place. Because her flaws started to worsened each season. Also I think Duncan kinda started inspired Courtney to embrace her bad traits.

[@stuartcarter6516]

Yeah, even if he did inspire her to do that, Courtney becomes far worse than him in every season except Island, and Duncan even calls her out. He wanted her to stop, but she didn't.

[@josheydubs]

I actually think that Courtney is worse than Heather as after the first season, Heather does try to be, at least her version of better. Sure Heather stays mean, but Heather never throws a challenge, she never cheats, and overall Heather is genuinely decent to others in season 3. In season 2, when Courtney was the antagonist, I find that she was actually crueler than Heather. Heather never bargained with peoples lives, and she never used any unfair advantages, Heather was just catty and manipulative, Courtney was outwardly violent, condescending, and used outside resources to gain an unfair advantage.

[@makototakara7025]

I doubted that.

[@valeriebernstein9167]

Heather at least admits she's evil. Courtney doesn't.

[@jazmine3621]

Thanks for making this analysis video! Courtney’s my second favorite character (with Heather being the absolute QUEEN). It was tragic to see the writing of the series down spiral and affect some of the most beloved characters of the show (like Courtney, Duncan, Gwen, Trent etc.). I can’t wait for the new Total Drama seasons, and I hope they give justice to the characters that deserve redemption! Now... is it too much to ask for an analysis video on Duncan? 🥺

[@JayniacJr]

I'd love to talk about Duncan or Gwen next.

[@jazmine3621]

@@JayniacJr Exciting!! Thanks dude!! 💓

[@cedricfowler3465]

11:42- Scott is more ambitious than Duncan which Courtney would find appealing. However, Scott didn't seem to mind taking orders from her so she wouldn't be challenged by him as much as Duncan.

[@suelee7620]

Courtney will always be my favorite character only in Season 1. But her character development went all the way down to negative. If she didn't create a ridiculous 32 page letter of being the "Perfect BF," her relationship with Duncan would've gone smooth. Ok, she doesn't know how a relationship works, but she still loves Duncan. I know deep down she is a good person, but the writers just made her to a bitch. I'm sorry, but that what I feel. I just feel so sorry for her. She needs a redemption. I really want her back with the Duncan.

[@sisser8565]

I love the fact that you are wearing a Courtney cosplay at the end 🤩🤩🤩

[@JayniacJr]

Thanks for noticing!

[@Ali-gk3xy]

The fact that this video has no dislikes is really impressive, props to your analysis man!

[@roxananava592]

Season 2, she became abusive towards Duncan, despite him cheating on her, she STILL needs to at least apologise to him. Or mature a little bit, since if she ever became an adult that will kick her in the butt.

[@averagejohn47]

Do you think there is a possibility they would do a reunion season? They went so off the rails with this survivor style season and the kindergarten spinoff

[@bankrollskillet1811]

Total drama reunion made by blu productions was taken down by the creators of total drama. But reuploads can still be found on youtube.

[@ximenasophia3135]

It was announced almost a month ago that HBO Max is producing two more seasons of TDI!

[@saekotanaka2328]

Can we all agree that All-Stars didn't exist,Gwen and Trent stayed together,Courtney accepted Duncan for who he is,and the only thing that exists for Season 3 are Noah's scenes and Alejandro x Heather

[@Third7Plays]

TDI: A cool series that introduced cool characters TDAS: ChArAcTeR bUtChErInG!!!!!!

[@ptassa270]

In the total drama world, there are no heroes or villains, only people who want to be famous and people who want it more.

[@shawncarter5434]

The writers did Courtney wrong

[@tygrademello6841]

I love how you wore a Courtney style shirt for this. A plus details

[@HxH2011DRA]

LOL love how this man just gave up on trying to make sense of season 5 XD

[@keecko8169]

i feel a courtney duncan redemtpino is needed, duncan finally accepting who he is, and courtney acceptin her failures

[@myboytylerb]

Courtney was my favorite on island, my all time favorite on action, the person I wanted to win world tour and the person I thought was actually gonna win all stars. To me it makes sense she would double cross Gwen and Scott after what they did to her. The only thing that I can agree on with most people is how badly her boot episode was written. Even in the bonus clip she could have SO taken on those sharks like she did in action👊💪

[@doomguy676]

She went from a likable character in season 1 to a total annoyance in season 2.

[@diegodubber2140]

Since Action, she became more and more of a shrew

[@augustinensang3109]

Can Harold be next Total Drama character to be analyzed?

[@augustrempelewert4377]

You do an excellent job pointing out the aspects of Courtney's personality that set her up for her descent into villainy. Beyond the points you made, I think that a lot of Courtney's development as a character is shaped by the people around her -- most of all, Duncan. Duncan finds her competitiveness, her passion, and her temper attractive (at least early on, before he becomes disillusioned and tired of being in an abusive relationship), and thus encourages those traits. He also persuades her to break out of the strict set of behavioral guidelines that she imposes on herself for the first 11 episodes of the show. This is a TERRIBLE combination, because Courtney has a really hard time distinguishing between "rules that can be broken without consequence" and "basic human decency," and once she stops operating by the book she's defined almost entirely by her fiery passion and need for everything to be perfect, with nothing left to hold those traits in check. That's why she's such a monster in season 2. I think that Courtney's fallen so far that she'd be harder to redeem than almost any other character (exceptions: Mal, Sugar, Scarlett, Amy, maybe Blaineley, and of course Chris). However, I do believe that it could be done. If we're discussing how to go about redeeming Courtney, here are my suggestions: Step 1: Put her in a relatively low-key season; something more like season 1 than seasons 4-6, where a) not every episode is deadly, b) violence isn't directly encouraged, and c) rule-flouting antagonists like Heather and Jo comprise less than 15% of the contestants. Step 2: Don't give her or anyone else special treatment. At least, no more special treatment than the kind Lindsay sometimes gets. Also, impose consequences for cheating. Step 3: Make sure that Duncan, Gwen, and Harold are nowhere to be seen. ESPECIALLY not Duncan. If you must include Gwen or Harold, put them on a different team than Courtney and limit their interactions with her as much as possible. Step 4: Pair her up with characters who can coax her better qualities back out. My personal favorite candidates are Bridgette and Brick. Bridgette is the only character left on Total Drama that Courtney has befriended WITHOUT later burning bridges with. She's one of the show's most normal characters: a lot like season 3 Gwen (aka the Gwen that Courtney befriended) in temperament, but calmer, gentler, and more idealistic. She's not an idiot or weakling that Courtney can push around or dismiss, which means that there's a chance of Courtney actually listening to her advice. In "Basic Straining," Bridgette was approving of Courtney's newfound looseness, but also advised her to exercise moderation, which is exactly what she needed. She would encourage Courtney to chill out, and to be compassionate and reasonable. Also worth noting: since a) Bridgette's relationship with Geoff is the most stable, perfectly-matched relationship on the show, and b) I can't imagine Courtney being interested in Geoff under any circumstances, the chances of Bridgette becoming a romantic rival for Courtney like Gwen did are almost zero. (I can only see it happening if both girls are on a team with Alejandro and neither Geoff nor Heather is competing.) Brick would also be a fantastic friend, ally, sidekick, and possible love interest for Courtney. He would respond readily to Courtney's attempts to take charge, which would put him on her good side. He pairs the by-the-book attitude Courtney once had with the physical resilience and kindly nature of Tyler and Owen. Like Bridgette, he would encourage Courtney to do the right thing and look out for others, but his more orderly mindset means that he's more likely to say it in a way that resonates with Courtney. Step 5: Make sure that Courtney's team wins a majority of challenges in the early part of the season. That way, she's less likely to be voted off early on for being insufferable, which will give her more time to become the person we want her to be. These, I believe, would be the optimal conditions for a Courtney redemption arc. If there's no external pressure on her to be fierce and mean, and if she doesn't start off the season already wanting revenge on someone, then she'll be more open to being influenced by good people, and thus more likely to become a good person once again.

[@RandomSkyeRoses]

Do you think Courtney is capable of killing someone?

[@augustrempelewert4377]

@@RandomSkyeRoses That's a really good question. Straight-up on-purpose murder by her own hand? Probably not. If she got her hands on Duncan or Gwen at the height of her anger at them, I can see her beating them to a bloody pulp, but I feel like she'd probably stop before the point of inflicting lethal damage. Let me know if you disagree. But a manslaughter-type situation, where she puts someone in a life-or-death situation and then stands back to watch? Yes. Definitely. She's already come close on multiple occasions. In "Total Drama Drama Drama Drama Island," there's a moment where Owen, Tyler, DJ, and Cody are dangling from Courtney's hot-air balloon, and she threatens to let them fall to their deaths if they don't give her the million-dollar case. In "Dial M for Merger," she has the only quick escape from a building that's set to explode, and she says she'll only let the others escape with her if they all promise to split the prize money with her if they win. In "The Princess Pride," she knocks Justin off the top of a tower, causing him to be badly injured. I'm pretty sure there are more examples too. Courtney isn't a killer yet, but she's violent when angry and terrifyingly ruthless when someone gets between her and something she wants.

[@RandomSkyeRoses]

@@augustrempelewert4377 What if she stabbed Gwen and she enjoyed doing it? She gets a taste for killing and gets a bloodlust for it

[@augustrempelewert4377]

@@RandomSkyeRoses That seems unlikely to me. I think Courtney still has enough good inside her that if she stabbed someone to death in a fit of anger she'd at least feel bad about it (even if it was Gwen). That said, if you're interested in writing a dark and edgy Total Drama fanfic, "Courtney goes off the deep end and starts killing the other contestants" isn't the worst premise I've seen.

[@RandomSkyeRoses]

@@augustrempelewert4377 What if Courtney stabbed Gwen and she survived? Courtney feels like she's a monster and believes her life is over. Duncan still sees the good in her and convinces her that she can still be a good person

[@SuperstarYT]

I was waiting for this! Courtney is great!

[@mastermind2246]

She became super unbearable in Action. I wanted to throw a brick at her sometimes even though she's only a cartoon character lol. Heather is even more likeable that her.

[@danielmcallister7873]

Heather is straightforward. She says what she really thinks, no matter how brutal 😂 Courtney is a snarky mouthed girl but unlike Heather has nothing to back it up, she’s just a b!tch tbh. Still love her tho she’s an iconic baddie 🙏🦄

[@jfduug4994]

omg thank you for making this i always thought it was so weird how her character flipped so hard after s1. she was so amazing in S1 i want that timeline back lol WE COULDA HAD A BAD BITCH!!! 💟

[@utahsrainbowsprinkles]

She was one of my favorite characters, but Action and All Stars ruined her which is sad because she was such a unique character I loved her interactions with Lindsay, Gwen, Bridgette and ESPECIALLY DUNCAN *Also Duncney forever, I love them so much and I wish they never got ruined :D* 🌈🦄💖

[@User6891-l5e]

Same. The reboot of season 1 might not have the og cast but I think season 2 will have some of the og cast. So I hope Courtney and Duncan are there. And ur right duncney needs to be fixed. And Gwent of course.

[@mezaweirdo4727]

What Gwen did was wrong, but I do think Courtney went a bit to far, betraying her only real friend, even after she saw how bad she felt. I do not like what the show did to her.

[@brandonkellingsworth3341]

Okay but I love the alliteration with the “c’s”

[@sinovagen]

I call every character that has a relationship with Gwen who goes crazy, Gwen'd. I reserved it only for Duncan or Trent, but it may also apply to Courtney.

[@juanferrer5924]

Took me forever to realize that courtney throwing up ice cream sandwich was basically censored alcohol poisoning

[@courtneysfg2147]

Thank you so much for this analysis! It’s really well done! And it’s nice to know that there are plenty of people that actually looked for the good in Courtney after season 1. But the special changed things for the worse.

[@OpticalSorcerer]

I can respect her for being competitive, but when she became vindictive, constantly tried to control Duncan, and let her negative emotions dictate her decisions, I had to let her go. To be fair, she wasn't the only person who got screwed over. Leshawna wasn't as clever in season 3, easily tricked by Alejandro, and her (somewhat) friendship with Heather was retconned; Gwen becoming self-conscious and less confident was very disappointing from season 3 onwards, and Trent's downspiral felt out of place in season 2.

[@hayamihinata4135]

Courtney was my favorite character in island so I was extremely upset as she became less likable.

[@6ustavocosta]

Im probably one of the few persons who likes Courtney in All Stars. Duncan was who kissed Gwen, and that made the girls friendship sink, because a mistake, a mistake that accidently happens in TDAS with Cameron, where we have a Courtney seeing the other side. Gwen genuines tried made them friends again and it was working very well. Until well, Courtney prioritizes the game as everyone should do when we are in final 5 duh. She is not being the annoying cheater from S2 or Obcessive girl from S3, she was back to s1 good character but with a bit of heather. You can say that going for original plan she would be in the finals but would she win? Against Scott the odds would be in favor, she cared abt him less than she cared abt gwen so se could manipulate him and win, while against gwen would be a fair and harder game. Well i like to believe she indeed voted in herself in the end of the episode to prove that she and gwen are in good terms now, you see that she was with doubts abt that instead of a "why would i do that?", she is not perfect, she has flaws but i think she got redemption and genuines wants gwen as a friend

[@nonamesorry7135]

I feel like her relationship with Duncan contributed a lot to her darker side comming out to light much more.

[@bakedbeans5494]

Duncan wasn't really a bad boy.

[@d4c_reznor470]

Remember in the TDI finale (the 1 hour special that sets up Action) where she discovered the island was really just a TV set? Apparently the writers didn’t because that could have been her smoking gun to get Chris arrested again, and then maybe win All Stars

[@mindymulligan2397]

Bruh idc what the comments say, Courtney is still my favorite character

[@nessys6450]

me too the writers did her wrong

[@uhno6454]

SAME

[@njyawndra8609]

Agreed.

[@angietoonz6605]

always has been, always will be. I haven't watched past season 3, so idc.

[@SIRCTRL]

sameee

[@Alexmary]

HOLY GEEZ THANK YOU MENTIONING THE 32 PAGE THING FOR CHANGING DUNCAN. That shiz pissed me off

[@Alien-f8z]

I prefer Courtney as a villain. She doesn't need to be friends with Gwen. She should be friends with Heather.

[@carlacarrero4975]

That wouldn’t make sense at all

[@Alien-f8z]

@@carlacarrero4975 why wouldn't it

[@pastelkei690]

@@Alien-f8z Maybe because she was caring at first? Idk but to me she seems more like an anti-villain.

[@Alien-f8z]

@@pastelkei690 That could be for her own gain.

[@CelinaAtangana]

Woahhh so cool that you mention Total Drama Reunion!! I voiced the Judge at Chris's trial at the beginning and the news reporter Jan that Courtney watches on tv. Love ur videos Jayniac!!

[@chipi397]

0:04 she looks scary when front facing

[@twinberwolves4231]

9:07, the "Super Hero-ld" episode is a play on Harold's name. Super Harold.

[@honestybaddie]

1:15 Jesus that’s a lot of words that begin with C

[@jojo-iy8bv]

they ruined her like she was one of the best characters in season 1 she was caring, strong, and passionate the writers made her such a bad character after season 1. Also i have a head canon that courtney lives in a toxic household what i mean by that is her parents probably gaslight her and tell her she's not good enough or that she's a disappointment if she doesn't meet their standards. That ties in with her being a perfectionist she wants everything to go a certain way because if there's one flaw she'd feel like a disappointment to her parents, like you said her family probably is involved with the law and lawyers get really busy so her parents probably aren't even around but when they are they gaslight her. She has mastered so many skills at such a young age it's incredible i feel like she only did all that stuff to hopefully make her parents proud. She needs a redemption arc. Also Bridget, Gwen, and Courtney would have an amazing friendship tbh