Jays Fans have TURNED on John Schneider...

Nick Gosse breaks down how Toronto Blue Jays fans have turned on management and John Schneider, and discuss how Jays fans have had enough.
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[@shaneturner1809]

Yes, please fire Schneider and Atkins at the same time

[@bobbrooks6478]

you forgot the biggest problem..Mark Shapiro..he has no baseball savvy.

[@thomastsiopoulos8597]

They and not the players are the problem - I agree. They had a chance to improve the team in the offseason but chose to sit on their hands. Fire the management team and let the new managers rebuild the team.

[@LesBaldwin-g8t]

If you think this team is going anywhere but the golf course post season you are deluded

[@brianpavlidis1833]

Can I ask, why has the hitting coach not been fired?

[@TheChuck181]

Fuck that. Atkins is the one that made the team. Atkins threw Schneider under the bus last year. This is misplaced blame and EXACTLY what Atkins wants to hear. Scapegoat the manager to save his skin.

[@John35541]

It's so easy to blame the manager. The players are not hitting and until they start hitting not much is going to change.

[@TaraCorcoran]

It's Don Mattingly and the hitting coaches that need to go asap

[@billyskittles1036]

Yeah, when an entire team is failing, that’s usually a good sign it’s more a management issue than anything. That’s kind of sports 101, dude.

[@thomastsiopoulos8597]

Management had a chance to do something about the lack of hitting in the offseason but chose to stay put. Their acumen is terrible.

[@mitchelldaly5823]

That’s a separate issue he’s terrible and managing ball games

[@christopherblack4520]

I wanted John Schneider fired last year the plan was not working. The entire seems lost.

[@MrRicobadass]

wtf is he supposed to do? hes getting awful information from Atkins and has a team that cant hit, the bullpen is trash, his hands are tied what is he supposed to do different? martinez hasnt consistently "mashed" anyone at this level. the blue jays fans are quickly becoming the worst and dumbest fans in the MLB

[@XFactor1111]

The Jays have fewer home runs and hits than the Oakland Athletics and Chicago White Sox. Who needs homers when you have Daulton Varsho's infield popups and defensive runs saved and years of control? BEST OUTFIELD DEFENSE IN THE LEAGUE !!!!! Teoscar Hernandez has 19 home runs. More than Vlad+George+Bo combined. Even Gurriel Jr. has more homeruns than Vlad and he can hit in the playoffs, unlike no show Vlad.

[@hangemhi001]

This team can’t consistently win 3 in a row never mind 7 there done man if the team average for fastball contact is one of the lowest in baseball how can the win anything

[@martinrev8487]

Springer is officially the 26th man on the roster, in my view. Unless they want to cut him, that is what he is. I'd get rid of Kiermaier via trade (eat some money) and make Springer a late-inning defensive replacement (Kiermaier's role without starts). We are not just talking bottom of the order here; we are talking no more starts for Springer.

[@allforoneandoneforall]

The onus is mainly on the players.... Atkins must go for many reasons, John S. is not the issue sometimes things work out and sometimes they don't.

[@keithleach1880]

only since last year but i guess him and his computer are safe.Why did he bring up another young player only to have him sit.

[@Peter-cn4hm]

The Blue Jays made the biggest mistake possible! They should have canned Shapiro and Atkins first. Schneider can only use what Atkins says. Atkins is Schneider’s boss. Then, give Schneider a chance to see 8f he does things different without Atkins around. Atkins is a big talker. “ Heap big smoke, but no fire”. That’s Atkins. We’ll do this at the trade deadline and we’ll do that! We’re going to be very active at the trade deadline. Yap yap yap yap, and on it goes, from Atkins mouth. Comes the time for action, Atkins crawls away and hides. Figure it out from there!

[@Desmond24]

Of course Martinez isn't in the starting lineup

[@SChoi380]

Why do people want Atkins fired? You see the stadium with 40,000 fans last night? Seems like Shapiro and Atkins doing exactly what rogers want. Blame dumb Toronto sports fan to keep showing up for a sub 500 team with no farm system or any decent prospects.

[@TheHappynot]

Mickey Mouse club management. Big changes are needed with the lineup and pitching.

[@johnmackenzie2277]

Atkins and Schneider both need to go

[@jax6588]

Get rid of Schneider springer kermier

[@mitchelldaly5823]

Sell the team

[@kurtisbanks7655]

Atkins and Shipiro you had your chances pack you bags and go immediately

[@OGS2099]

Forget John Schneider, Forget Ross Atkins, Fire Mark SHAPIRO. He's the architect of ALL OF THIS. Why aren't more fans holding him accountable?? Renovations are half his job! Pull weeds from the root!

[@ShooterMcGavin31]

They’re not going on a 7 or 8 game win streak. Stop.

[@johnkim2747]

Fire the manager and the guys from Cleveland please

[@andrewgibson5861]

Jays need to lose Atkins,Shapiro, John Schneider, Vlad, Bo, Kirk and Springer ASAP Vlad and Kirk lost the Jays the game. They combined 0-8 and did nothing multiple times with runners in scoring position.

[@duffyy1]

Fire everyone but that’s wishful thinking. What’s scary is that this management team thinks they are doing a great job.

[@Kevin986_]

I'm so tired of the Jays, I've pretty much moved on. It's just getting tiring

[@RonFromToronto]

Nick, why do we need to find positives? It’s not positive. That’s it. We don’t need to turn our selves into to mental pretzels, cross our eyes, and squint to try to find some way to spin things in a positive way. The competitive window is over. That’s it. End of story.

[@MrRicobadass]

right. so lets just shut it down for the season then.. lock the doors forfeit the remaining games and the fuck with the season right? save the money on the extra staff they wont need anymore, save on electricity and water. perfect system. good thinking MoronFromToronto

[@Me-fs5cy]

Buffalo guys hitting better than the Millionaires

[@BobBanks-m6e]

Why not swop Buffalo with the Jays. Can't be any worse.

[@sjc752]

These players simply aren't that good. Schneider didn't pick these players. That's on Atkins. Fire Atkins.

[@roberthickerty390]

How many times do Atkins and Schnieder need to screw up before you let then go and hire people who know baseball. No sale unless you get rid of management and fire them now to see how new management will affect team performance. If we keep management as is trades and sales will destroy this team. The vision held by Atkins, Shapiro and Schneider is terrible. They have dragged a good team into the basement.

[@alexhsieh9228]

Clearly player don’t want play for Schneider and Atkins. They lose all the respect in club house

[@jaymckeating4989]

The only person to blame is the GM! He had all winter to improve this team, and did nothing! This was never a playoff team as is!!

[@matthewcouch6070]

It’s an 0-6 playoff team at best

[@dookiehoser3051]

Atkins should not be able to sign a new contract manager. He must go and start fresh

[@christopherblack4520]

Would you like Alex Anthopoulos back after the mess he made.

[@dookiehoser3051]

@@christopherblack4520 the closest they have been to winning with under his leadership. he did set the franchise back with all the prospects he let go but lets be honest. any of those prospects he got rid of were all middle of the road players that wouldn't help them get any closer to a pennant

[@christopherblack4520]

@@dookiehoser3051 Traded Thor for Dickie the worst trade in blue jays history

[@adrianau6679]

@@christopherblack4520 That doesn't even compare to the Michael Young trade in 2000.

[@christopherblack4520]

@@adrianau6679 Thor was a great pitcher and Dickie sucked so I would compare to the Michael Young trade in 2000.

[@RaymundAgsulid]

why is John Schneider is still managing this team also Atkins has to go Trade is coming soon.

[@philduchene7833]

i dont understand the optimism this team has shown 0 ability to win more than 3 games in a row. the offense stinks and now the bullpen is disabled so they cant win close games. this team is not even entertaining. i miss 2021

[@barryhall8461]

I don't blame Schneider. ZTHEY ARE NOT HITTING HITTING, FIRE THE HITTING COACHES PERIOD

[@MasonRain]

They should put the jays in the american league west

[@might33duck76]

“Jays fans have TURNED on John Schneider!!!” Lmao for the 100th time this year 🤦‍♂️

[@darinblair2469]

The blow Jay's suck ....period

[@warrenl6863]

Atkins is actually Gavin from Kids In The Hall.

[@karenkennedy5253]

Ross Atkins needs to stop blaming all his mistakes on the MANGER. Atkins did nothing to help better the team. Its not the mangers fault the players arent hitting. ATKINS NEEDS TO GO.

[@amyb3737]

Atkins needs to be gone YESTERDAY! No doubt, Schneider has also made some horrible moves...pinch hitting Springer is just one of many. BUT. At some point it is on the players to start performing. They need to start hitting. That's what it comes down to.

[@renlyackerman]

Well Orelvis isn't starting tonight either.

[@kermitfrog593]

Springer should only pinch-hit when the Jays are up or down 10-0. He's the hitter equivalent of an innings eater.

[@archangelgabriel5316]

Pathetic, losing needs to be a problem. They cant accept losing.

[@ArtRobichaud]

You don't have to fire John Snyder. But send him down to the triple-a. Where he was before and where he was so productive with the young players. Don't forget, Don Mattingly. Is there for one of the most productive baseball managers in history? Give him a shot at it, see what happens

[@pchan-wb9qw]

It"s a combination of players underperforming and a manager who should not be in MLB, at best he is an A or AA manager, I'm sure he's a really nice guy 'n stuff but this team needs a real MLB manager with experience, someone who is not afraid to hurt delicate feelings, the object of the game is to win. Sit the vets who are simply not playing well and let the kids play, they need experience and if we're going to lose then at least the younguns gain playing time in the majors. These guys are no fun to watch, at best, if they're lucky, a .500 team.

[@beckypetersen2680]

No, why are the Blue Jays fans so ready to just react? if every team did what you all are suggesting, half of the MLB teams would be firing their managers about now. That's silly.

[@davissinclair4945]

Atkins and his "Modern Analytics" needs to go before Schneider.

[@beckymunro2071]

I don't think it's the players fault. It's not just 1 or 2 players in a slump. It's been the entire team for the past year +. I don't believe this is a player problem. It's a manager/coaching problem.

[@MickLoud999]

I am still fuming at vlad. 7th inning 2-0 count. the next pitch...he didn't even flinch as he left the bat on his shoulder and watched a 90mph cutter that didn't cut go right down the middle. Seriously if you dissected the strike zone it would have been dead centre! Then he starts swinging at pitches inside off the plate and grounds out!!! Vlad has to be the dumbest player in mlb right now.

[@derrickd111]

My expectations are that this team will miss the playoffs (hope for WS but not looking good), the reason to watch now is to see the kids play and then see what they can do next year (hopefully without Turner and Kiermaier).

[@glimmo43]

Atkins hasn’t given Schneider the roster to succeed.

[@gcanada3005]

Nope, ownership pulled the plug last offseason. Rogers wanted the team to tank so they have an excuse to cut payroll in half and start the rebuild

[@Aebischer1984]

Charlie was fired with a winning record. Schinder should of been fired months ago.

[@Andrew-mw4md]

This is the perfect season to suck, 2 of the worst teams in the league are not eligible for the draft lottery. This team needs 3 bullpen arms including a closer, a starting pitcher, and a clean up hitter. If they don't sell off now, they will be continually stuck in the mushy middle

[@alanmurr6562]

Well when you have a president who believes who the field manager is is not important, then you will have a GM who has had to fire 3 managers in 5 years. And it is not a case of is the team so bad because of JS or the players? It's both. Not to mention the two lame-brains who are in charge of the front office.

[@SanjuroCA]

so they called Orelvis Martinez but immediately he goes to the bench. What's the point of even calling him up? What a shit show this magmt is.

[@kermitfrog593]

We turned on Schneider long time ago. Blowing that Yankee sweep by bringing in Swanson was the last straw for me.

[@DailyWordsofWisdom888]

I'm triggered.

[@ryand34561]

I'm tired of being disappointed with an entire team that is top 10 in payroll. Fire Atkins, then let the new GM clean house and rebuild as he sees fit.

[@jamesrock9446]

They need to hire Kris Knoblauch after the NHL post season

[@Myn6211]

Get rid of Atkins and John Schneider. Get someone in there that will light a fire under the players. Vlad is just about the worst. He runs off the field faster than he runs to first base when he manages to hit a ball. He is lazy and definitely not his father. The bullpen needs serious help. The first step though is to get rid of the management that is making such poor decisions be that for acquisitions or game play.

[@brianburk4508]

You are what's wrong with this team,optimistic till the end😢

[@michaelwhiter4308]

Team owners are like politicians, they don’t want to commit the money to win in fear they will loose money, so they bullshit the fans into believing they want to win. They simply don’t care, it is solely about the money!

[@lawrenceeustache9422]

thanks for not trying to sugar coat and think they still have a chance which they don`t , you`re right lots of changes have to be made coaching and players

[@MrBrickboy38]

Baseball fans haven’t turned on him.social media has

[@2222aaaa3333]

the owner i guess is ed rogers you never see him at the game, he obviously would be pointed out by dan schulman and the sportsnet broadcast of the blue jays games . so that tells me he does not care about the team. Or he would have an emergency meeting with the board of directors and discuss whether they should fire the gm president and manager because they have obviously fucked up the team

[@scottmarwood7654]

They are not a playoff contender. Just stop.

[@ruckus0960]

Just not a good manager. It’s so bad I can’t believe he makes the decisions on his own

[@shaunhulme9222]

The jay's suck this year period !

[@terencew7716]

Toronto will not make the playoffs

[@thebiologicalrealist]

Anyone who says John Schneider is the worst Jays manager ever is revealing either their youthful inexperience or geriatric cognitive decline.

[@Desmond24]

Both Nick and Vlad got a haircut on the same day

[@jackuzzi5251]

Yeah they do want to sell they're old core. Bo has to go.

[@MurrayGarceau]

To me that seems to be getting rid of the wrong guy

[@huhwhathuhwhat525]

The Audio is horrible

[@LowkeiProductions]

wdym turned, jays fans were never a keen to him

[@ryananderson5202]

This team is a mess

[@TheRoddix]

When Springer was put in to pinch-hit, I just wanted to turn the game off. He’s having a rough go so why put him in over others. Made no sense. We need a change.

[@gurrarai]

Let's face it, John schneider is a player pleaser and not a hard ass coach which is should be ! They won't fire him during the season

[@ClaireMontgomery-if4qc]

Does anyone else think that Springer's decline is causing the team's decline? Getting rid of him should be priority number 1. Who cares abour Rogers money. Hes leading the team downward by example. If you guys did a video on this, you could show it through the statistics. It seems like ehen he hits well, the team hits well and vice versa.

[@Warren-BCBOY]

The players we need hitting simply suck at clutch moments. Schneider has been trying to shake things up and i get that bit putting Springer in to pinch hit was such a bad move. The bullpen isnt good enough to shut teams down either.

[@bfcraigable]

John S is a good manager (at the minor league level where mistakes are tolerated so as to learn from them), but so many mistakes can't be tolerated at this level.) He needs to be let go to make room for a manager with considerable major league experience. There are several out there.

[@karlmacinnis3110]

I was pissed that George springer pinched hit for the young right fielder what the hell is he doing

[@tabletopcorner2357]

These players are capable of hitting the ball. But the coach needs to go. He has done many questionable moves going back to last year. You got a GM that sucks and does nothing. You have an owner that prefers to reno the Rogers Center instead of putting money into product on the field. As long as these head cases are in charge, we have the same result every year at this point. That is why I lost interest in this team a while ago. My second team Boston at least is turning a corner. The best Jays teams were 1985, 1987, 1993, and 2015. Those teams were what the Blue Jays were as opposed to this nonsense now. They need a big change to happen...who knows.

[@MrRicobadass]

youre regurgitating BS.. Rogers didnt put money into the field and not on the field. they have the 7th highest payroll. they didnt not pay players to build a field. use your head. they have overpaid staff that isnt performing and the coaching staff like guillermo martinez and don mattingly.

[@willisfigueroa6841]

Schapiro hired a rookie GM ( Atkins ) who hired a rookie manager ( Montoya ) and then replaced him with another rookie manager ( Schneider ). Either Schapiro is a micromanager and/or no one experienced wants to work for him. Either way the first change needs to happen at the top. Why Jansen didnt pinch hit for Kirk down a run in the eighth inning with a man on base is proof Schneider is not qualified to manage a team with aspirations to make the playoffs. Fire Atkins and Schneider and Schapiro wont do it then fire Schapiro.

[@MrRicobadass]

we already know that shapiro is an awful micro manager. its the reason AA left and went to Atlanta. then he helped them build a contending team.. after he left the year he made toronto a contending team in 2015..

[@christopherblack4520]

@@MrRicobadass After Alex Anthopoulos made a mess in Toronto he went to LA did nothing to help then he went to Atlanta a team already built he did nothing. AA was hated in Toronto did not win anything just made bad trades signed bad contracts and did not want the blame the team needed to rebuild.

[@MrRicobadass]

@@christopherblack4520 anthopolous did the best he could at the time. the bad contracts were for a win now team. it was a win now team that just fell short. those contracts would have looked great if they would have won a WS. but the lack of a WS title made him look worse than it was. Anthopolous needed to be left alone and do what he needed. Shapiro looking over his shoulder isnt what he needed. Shapiro is useless.

[@christopherblack4520]

@@MrRicobadass Shapiro was hired after AA made the mess. People forget how hated AA was. Should of, could of would of does not win a WS.

[@Seen469]

Hire John Gibson

[@BobBanks-m6e]

No, Buck Showalter is free

[@christopherblack4520]

Hell no

[@kingess-jay2961]

A bit of both. Not arguing the questionnable in game decisions, he also can't play for the players. I don't blame fans for being fed up and I also don’t think firing Schneider alone fixes this team.

[@toddgeorge7421]

The term must win has lost all meaning...

[@fogoisland2000]

You’re down by one in the eight with one of the best closers in baseball coming up the ninth. Varsho gets on. Schneider’s thought pattern is let’s not steal a base at any point in the next three at bats even though Varsho has decent speed. Then with one out he pulls a player that has hit an home run off the pitcher on the mound and puts in a player that has a sub .200 average on the season. Then with the final at bat instead of bringing in Janson you leave Kirk a sub .200, extremely slow catcher in the game and he grounds out.

[@TheTraderGuy]

They turned on him like....three years ago. Maybe ten.

[@OCDFarming]

Was at the game yesterday and found it funny how Schneider talks about the rules of the ballpark. Every time he asked the fans to either not smoke or drink responsibly, I would laugh and say the minute he does his job, is the minute I'll do my part. Lit up a cig every inning and drank 42 beers.

[@peterjeffery8495]

Daulton Varsho stranded on 1st last night, not turned loose to steal. The fastest man on the team...a one run game...8th inning. What a complete waste of space Schneider is! Boston literally stole the game out from under Schneider and his lame-brain trust. OUT OUT OUT!

[@John35541]

Why is it that pitchers have to be perfect but hitters, well, not so much?

[@joanneredmond7069]

Addison Barger had said that he had hit a home run off of him before. Springer needs to be sent down to triple A and let the Buffalo boys play. Schneider needs to go.

[@imraanbulbulia80]

Springer can't be sent down to triple A. He has veteran service time so he could refuse an assignment to the minors Iif he even had any options to begin with. It is just time to eat that contract and non tender him. Not our money

[@imraanbulbulia80]

John Schneider makes a lot of questionable decisions but he isn't the worst we've had. The blame should be on Shatkins for constructing this lineup.

[@Poppinwheeeeellllllieeeeez]

Nick reminds me of "Guy Smiley" from Sesame Street.

[@Me-fs5cy]

What's Bo going to do 😂😂

[@bfcraigable]

Bo needs to go and get a fresh start elsewhere. New team, new league new and fresh attitude. L A dodgers need a shortstop with Mookie Betts injured.

[@joeleger9990]

I believe Houk pitched a no decision last night. Tonight it is Bello a RHP

[@joeleger9990]

Tonight it is Bello a RHP for the red sox

[@omegasenpaiz]

And they should