Good video, very thorough for just the bed. That editor's note was pretty funny too
@eebrannen5 жыл бұрын
What is the length of the bed with the tailgate open. Need to decide what type of in bed camper to build!
@MoragTong_5 жыл бұрын
Why is everyone on here crying about the bed size like its an F-150 or something? The Gladiator is set to compete with the Toyota Tacoma(and similar), which has a 5ft bed in the crew cab configuration. You don't hear people crying about the bed size on that rig. This thing isn't for hauling gravel or 30ft ladders...its a sport truck and its going to sell like CRAZY. Lots of Tacoma owners would love to get Rubicon like off-road ability from the factory and now they can. I will wait until CPO rigs are available in the next year or so...but I am getting one asap. My JKU is great but this is exactly what myself and thousands of Jeep owners have been waiting for. The best part is, all of the new model issues are being squared away on the JL, so this truck should be relatively trouble free.
@thatguy36975 жыл бұрын
I’ll pick one up in two or three years when all the lease return suckers turn them back in.
@AridersLifeYT5 жыл бұрын
Mark my words. Australia has been yearning for a Jeep like this for decades. It will do amazingly well here.
@alikakalanihuia88916 жыл бұрын
A 2-door with a longer bed would definitely be a welcomed option. Can’t imagine me putting a camper on a 5 ft. Bed; I’m 6’4” and my wife is 5’4”.
@markbatzel6 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a 2-door diesel option too but with a 5ft bed it will do fine for a camper. Taco's have been doing it for years. Its not a camper you see on a F-350
@troymcclure90886 жыл бұрын
Am i trippin or is that Conan O'Brien driving at 00:18?
@bway8316 жыл бұрын
Lyle Lanley lol i thought the same
@jivert12586 жыл бұрын
Didn’t expect that haha 😂
@dannyrepo1326 жыл бұрын
Not the same HAIR style..
@OneEphraimite6 жыл бұрын
LMFAO....I was thinking the same exact thing, hahaha.
@MoisesHernandez-ee8ju6 жыл бұрын
That might just be conan
@jacobturner66466 жыл бұрын
That middle position is really clever. Probably didn’t even cost them anything to include it. More trucks should have something like that.
@kanjikevin6 жыл бұрын
I work at Chevy in TX and they've had that for a while. I cant really speak for other makes tho
@grounded2795 жыл бұрын
MOST trucks have had that for at least 10 years.
@AmazingBrando6 жыл бұрын
The black sold it for me. Great details!
@rondail56756 жыл бұрын
I agree, it is very sharp looking. Classy!!
@graphguy6 жыл бұрын
Black is great if you want to detail it every 8 hours.... otherwise it looks like sheet.
@ScratcherHeaven6 жыл бұрын
Black is nice until you drive it off the lot, it’s always dirty
@BinauralBae6 жыл бұрын
I'm still holding out for a 2 door diesel before I get really excited over the Gladiator.
@zacharyhart87506 жыл бұрын
That's what I want or a 2liter turbo.
@BinauralBae6 жыл бұрын
@@zacharyhart8750 I have the turbo in my 2019 Cherokee trailhawk and it's a great engine.
@zacharyhart87506 жыл бұрын
@karuntribs Test drove a new wrangler 2 door with 2liter turbo that thing moved but I wanted more than 3 thousand pounds of towing capacite.
@quailman87606 жыл бұрын
The Wanderer ...and frame design.
@asearcher5206 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure they said they weren't doing any two doors.
@johnnyk6175 жыл бұрын
Finally the video I’ve been looking for, literally for months
@billkuehling72385 жыл бұрын
Nice to see the truck my plant painted lol. Still not in full production just yet but to all those asking for the 2 door version they told us a few have been sent to be cut and made to start a design for the 2 door version so it is coming. Very nice video.
@kenwrightlucky16 жыл бұрын
Single cab , 6ft bed and I'll buy it .
@gen1c8rs886 жыл бұрын
I'd want an single cab/6.5 foot bed Gladiator.
@sqike001ton6 жыл бұрын
Yep single cab 6 to 8 foot bed and less stupid accessories standard and I would be in the market as it sits now its a fleep markted to the weekend warrior types and not a serrious work truck
@segwolfxviii29196 жыл бұрын
@Azog 87 agreed... i dont like the single cab idea.
@segwolfxviii29196 жыл бұрын
@Gus Goose but its a modified Jeep Wrangler dumbass. The whole point of it is to have a back seat. They should have a Gladiator JL and a Gladiator JLU just like the Wrangler. I know its a hard concept for you to grasp but its ok, youll get there bud.
@mase0026 жыл бұрын
@@segwolfxviii2919 triggered
@timesup63866 жыл бұрын
If you fill the cab with adult passengers you have on reserve payload capacity for the bed to tow. This is a SUV by definition.
@bigtrucklittlerv79696 жыл бұрын
Yes, fill the cab and there is no payload capacity left to tow (tongue weight) or cargo in bed.
@eatcommies13756 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to see all the camper options for that thing.
@Quadratec6 жыл бұрын
Us too!
@bandolero985 жыл бұрын
I want this truck for work & play. As a carpenter sometimes it’s cool if you can get into the back of the clay ungraded lot. I’m exited. Week truck & emphasis on weekender. One vehicle to do it all. Yay
@emileamirsaleh50105 жыл бұрын
I'm just dying to know the price. A well-equipped Wrangler 4-Door Sahara is already north of $50K.
@runningoverland76566 жыл бұрын
I LOVE that they're coming with Falken Wildpeaks. Such an awesome tire and I'm glad they've been recognized over the last few years.
@captainmac99296 жыл бұрын
I keep hearing about it’s all set up to carry a full sheet of plywood. Over, and over, and over. Do THAT many people need to carry plywood??? I had no idea!! LOL!
@Catman17986 жыл бұрын
Captain Mac it’s just to give you a perspective how big it is back there. I’m sure at some point you will be buying at least one piece of plywood lol
@captainmac99296 жыл бұрын
I understand, but plywood? C’mon, it’s an overused measurement in my opinion, lol. I’d love to have one of these trucks but I’m not going to haul plywood, thanks. But I get what they’re doing, over, and over, and over, ..........
@gmwhiteguy6 жыл бұрын
Not just plywood, you got drywall, etc.... a lot of homeowners need to haul things that measure 48” across. It helps it compete with the full size truck market.
@CASANOVAPRO19856 жыл бұрын
im in construction and ive never had to carry that many sheets of plywood. lol
@raylaux82956 жыл бұрын
That what a truck capable of doing 48" sheet plywood.. This is not a truck with a 5' bed. It's a SUV.
@bigbossman59696 жыл бұрын
they should offer the new ram split tailgate on the gladiator pick up
@richs.73736 жыл бұрын
This definitely needs to at least be an aftermarket thing if Jeep won't make it happen.
@Starch-Wreck6 жыл бұрын
How dare they!! The tailgate of a truck is one of the most replaced pieces. Better make it more complicated for some of that extra consumer replacement cash. Or maybe they did you a favor.
@ScratcherHeaven6 жыл бұрын
Just more crap that can break... soft close is enough for now
@bigbossman59696 жыл бұрын
@@ScratcherHeaven thats always been the case. one good thing about it is if u do have any problems years later the hings are replace ble
@ScratcherHeaven6 жыл бұрын
Big Bossman actually my apologies, I really like that option. I was thinking of the new GMC tailgate- with the upper folding section, clever but overly complicated
@OneEphraimite6 жыл бұрын
I always wanted a Hummer but it felt like it was just to much and a little overbearing, but I always believed that if a middle ground could be found with a Jeep pick up truck demonstrating that same rugged military styling it would be a perfect fit for me, and though I was hopeful I didn’t really expect Jeep to meet up with that combined style. Boy was I wrong, they met my hopes with great detail.
@Quadratec6 жыл бұрын
It's a great looking truck, in person it's really impressive.
@dustyweasel416 жыл бұрын
I’ve had a hummer h2 and h3. Although the 3 is like driving a couch, it pales in off road compared to a jeep. The h2 , even though I put 3” lift and 35’s, still didn’t do as well as any jeep I’ve had or have now. Plus the h2 has way too many blind spots for anything serious without a spotter. I’m on #17 for jeeps. Have a 2010 4 door jku with 4” an 35’s. Absolutely my favorite. I’m sure I’ll grab the Gladiator in 5 years, once they get traded in. Let those hummer feelings melt away......zen......Jeeeeep.....
@Jestevez10905 жыл бұрын
1Ephraimite hey I actually came into the truth by stumbling on your channel by chance months ago. Funny I find you randomly commenting on something I wasn’t even going to bother clicking . What are the odds . Maybe it’s the most high. I’m way deeper in understanding now. I feel like I found your channel to get that first step into finding myself as a Hebrew Israelite. Thank you!
@alecmurray78265 жыл бұрын
I've done the math, and it is possible to fit roughly 335 babies in this truck bed. Do with that information what you will.
@scottgutenkunst12265 жыл бұрын
Quick question are they going to manufacture a Gladiator like the S.c.r.a.m.b.l.e.r.? Now i like 4 doors but two would be great to chose from.
@corgily5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Will an ATV fit in the bed ?
@MXvsATV1446 жыл бұрын
those slots in the bed for the 2x6 boards, so boards can clear wheel wells have been in every bed for many decades.
@SSgtG96 жыл бұрын
Plastic anchors for the cargo rail system? Must be for keeping soccer balls from rolling around in the bed.
@paulbivins64835 жыл бұрын
same as on my work truck Toyota and they have held up for years of hauling.
@ronnierebhan2294 жыл бұрын
Soccer balls! Lol (Actually i am a PE teacher!)
@Antiquetractorsetc6 жыл бұрын
I wish there was a regular cab option. I’m not a fan of the 4 doors. I know it’s more space but I’d rather have the regular cab. And and the old online 6 was one of the best engines. Also the option for it to be standard would be cool.
@stovlsuzuki Жыл бұрын
What about the length from the back of the wheel well to the tailgate?for people who use 2 dog kennels in the bed
@AverageCarGuy6 жыл бұрын
Just take my money already!!! When will this thing be available to order ?
@Sloppyjoe965 жыл бұрын
how does this bed compare to other small trucks
@cbr68646 жыл бұрын
Want an underpowered truck with miniature bed that's insanely overpriced then here you go problem solved. Jeep or should I say fiat needs to get back to their roots or they risk losing a huge customer base. Jeep has been living off a name for far too long now
@GuitarSolosInc.6 жыл бұрын
I live and die by my 95 xj. Jeep nowadays is sorority girl, frat boy specific. I don't know how many of these overweight Fiats I've pulled out of puddles, but it's getting ridiculous. The engine barley moves that big body, let alone pushes it through mud. It's kinda funny. My 4,000 dollar xj puts these 50,000 dollar grocery getters to shame!!!!! But you can get some ply wood back there all day. The future of Jeep is looking grim. They ride the fame and power of 20+ yo models that were made by AMC. These Fiats are not even close to the preformance of the AMC Jeep. Maybe on paper, but on the trails they fail on the easiest spots. While all the real jeepers stand by and wait, then have to go get a real Jeep to pull you guys out.
@rudolfire22545 жыл бұрын
insanely over priced? What is the insane price Ryan?
@SPNKr025 жыл бұрын
@@rudolfire2254 I'm sure he will quote a price that includes all of the upgrades and Rubicon set, living in yester years car prices without taking inflation into account
@b4ssfunk3d5 жыл бұрын
@@GuitarSolosInc. I have a 4x4 89 2 Door XJ Pioneer. They rock, it has a completely rebuilt i6 4.0L motor and 3.5 inch suspension, 33 inch procomp tires and Fox 2.0 shocks. Anyone thinking of wasting money on the Gladiator might have to look at an old Jeep Comanche from the Cherokee era. I really think this Pentastar V6 though is weak as hell to be pushing a 4,650 lb car versus the 3200 lb Cherokee being pushed by the venerable 4.0L I6 that churns out 200 hp 280lb ft torque instead of the weak torque numbers we're seeing from the Pentastar compared to it's curb weight. I may end up getting a 4.7L stroker engine with 270HP 320lb ft of torque for my Cherokee someday but I'm just as happy keeping it stock
@GuitarSolosInc.5 жыл бұрын
@@b4ssfunk3d my friend dropped the 4.7 stroker in his 96' Cherokee, hands down the best, most fun jeep to drive in town!! Makes me so fucking jealous!!! Lol.
@tommycristaldi90373 жыл бұрын
That was the biggest concern for me. Can it fit a 4x8 sheet of ply wow. They did think of that. Great Job Jeep!
@genius-no5sl5 жыл бұрын
Damn I love Jeep so clever and rugged just top notch products
@slinky41986 жыл бұрын
I have a big question do you guys ever come out to Toledo, Ohio for Jeepfest?
@VoodooCrab5 жыл бұрын
How about a measurement from the top of the bed to the top of the cab? Thanks.
@donalddday77415 жыл бұрын
So if the full size pick up cost is 40,000 to 60,000 why are all the midsize pick ups 35,000 to 50,000 ? Shouldn’t they be 20,000 to 35,000 seeing they are 5/10s to 8/10s the size ?
@HomenetAV4 жыл бұрын
Yep Home store weekender is about right. Especially at 17.5 bed depth using this for work and adding a low profile tool box makes that bed stupid small.
@ameermauri55476 жыл бұрын
Best truck for me I will lease one when it comes out and probably buy my next one.
@junercevallos84236 жыл бұрын
How will the hard top come out given that there is a bed in the back. Will you be able to slide the hardtop to the rear until you can pick it up and put it down.
@toddjpiascik36536 жыл бұрын
Gotta sell a soft top truck cap like truck topper for it...that's what I wanna buy for it when I get mine!
@TheTonyjara4 жыл бұрын
How easy is it to remove the whole bed?...for a possible Rv build?
@michaelpawluk67916 жыл бұрын
Need a 2 door variant. This thing is too big to be called a Jeep
@battycowboy6 жыл бұрын
MikhailBarracuda91 so the wagoner don’t count as a Jeep or a j10 or the original gladiator hum ?
@nickmos7725 жыл бұрын
How long is the tailgate though? Trying see if my sportsman 1000 will fit with the tailgate down. It will fit width wise he tight though...
@randalmarcum49943 жыл бұрын
will it except a 5th wheel setup in the bed
@michaeldidomenico91155 жыл бұрын
how many lbs can the tail gate hold when it is half way up, for loading items like plywood?
@alexmaclean16 жыл бұрын
Man if you could buy it in a 2 door with a real bed, this could be awesome. As is, it's just a longer less capable wrangler with a bed that's too small to be useful.
@markbatzel6 жыл бұрын
I agree wit the 2-door option but this is aimed at the Overland market for sure. Its not meant to be a full tilt pickup just like the Tacoma. Max towing on a Taco is 6800; this is 7650. A lot of people said the same thing about the JKU when it was first released. Now look at the market. Put this on 40's and look out...
@R3dWolf243 жыл бұрын
What about a cross section measurement from corner to corner?
@thoughtloop17375 жыл бұрын
Please do a video on the standard Dana 44 Axels vs the wide Dana 44 Axels you get with the max towing package
@frankiereyes65885 жыл бұрын
Quesion!!! The mopar after market part such as the accessories storage for the bed will take the space; and can hold 1600 pounds on top of the cover. So can a motorcycle or a ATV can be place on top? @Quadratec
@maldenfoster5 жыл бұрын
Frankie Reyes I would believe it could support it from my video research
@frankiereyes65885 жыл бұрын
@@maldenfoster thank you.
@nismofury6 жыл бұрын
I have that same tape measure. Hopefully I will have the same truck.
@posey-xc3nc6 жыл бұрын
I wonder that if you inserted the vertical 2x6 (@2:30) if 48" wide plywood will still clear the vertical tapers he measured previously at the base of the vertical taper at 1:19
@Quadratec6 жыл бұрын
As soon as we have one, we are headed straight to the lumber yard for plywood, Rob needs his plywood.
@buffalolizard3 жыл бұрын
What would max width camper top be?
@jaysteranka39045 жыл бұрын
I have a question about options? Will a power or manual sliding rear window be available? Also will a 12 volt outlet be available in the bed for camping purposes?
@josephavery46775 жыл бұрын
There is a sliding rear window option and a 12 V option for the rear.
@mitchellgrant38345 жыл бұрын
How much weight can the tail gate hold in the middle position?
@thomasrossi316 жыл бұрын
I love the look of the canvas soft cap.
@EddiTaru2 жыл бұрын
This will be the best mid size truck ever made.
@okeen52656 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a single cab version with the same short bed, and overall shorter wheelbase. Not all of us are sold on the new long wheelbase Jeeps. A single cab long bed version seems to be a popular request as well. As it stands, I'm not convinced we'll be seeing a lot of these on the road/trail.
@rondail56756 жыл бұрын
Great review! Great looking Jeep\Truck. Love the the black color. What is the price as shown?
@Quadratec6 жыл бұрын
The official price has not yet been released
@archithlon5 жыл бұрын
How about a Camper Unit on top of the rear part of the Gladiator? What about a hook clutch for horse trailor, may be from Cimarron?
@elvaledecolima5 жыл бұрын
How many sheets of plywood can put on there ?
@dustinhallmark64386 жыл бұрын
Is the tailgate dampened while opening it or do you have to hold it while you open it?
@gta4viceman6 жыл бұрын
my question and maybe its been answered, where do the bolts go for the JT, like in the JL you would just but them in the back under the floor
@Quadratec6 жыл бұрын
If you're talking about the hardtop and door hardware, there is a spot behind the rear seat when you fold down the driver side to store them when you take the doors off and the hard top off.
@dids_lfc41133 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know the actual weight of the bed??? please??
@amolloh6 жыл бұрын
Dude, where you taking all the plywood?
@Quadratec6 жыл бұрын
Rob has an extensive plywood collection.
@Sig721Tau6 жыл бұрын
@@Quadratec 😀😁😂🤣
@ChiefDoesStuff5 жыл бұрын
How long is the bed with the tailgate down?
@apolonioman54796 жыл бұрын
That black color is so sick.
@morgandc225 жыл бұрын
I assume the front of the bed is removable? So you could have a longer bed under a canopy?
@josephavery46775 жыл бұрын
No. The bed is a true pick up bed , unlike the scrambler, that I think that you're talking about.
@raylaux82956 жыл бұрын
D44 or D60
@singh1234165 жыл бұрын
That bed is smaller than my bath tub
@TheEvilganon46 жыл бұрын
Nobody is buying this to haul plywood.
@zacharyhart87506 жыл бұрын
I would buy this to go camping and haul plywood great all around truck.
@GuitarSolosInc.6 жыл бұрын
@@zacharyhart8750 wait till you drive it and realize it doesn't have enough power to get you up that hill to your favorite camp site. It's overweight for that little engine. Plus camping gear. Your sitting in a tiny puddle with all four wheels spinning. It reminds me of how Hummer tried to do it. And failed catastrophically.
@zacharyhart87506 жыл бұрын
@@GuitarSolosInc. you realize this is like the Chevy Colorado. I would say it weights the same as a Chevy Colorado because it has a soft top and alumumin panels and the motor puts out about the same power.
@GuitarSolosInc.6 жыл бұрын
Zach, I don't know how many Chevy Colorados I've pulled through mud. No power in these new v6's. I'm saying none of the new "suv's" have any power. Unless you do a lot of work to it. Would have to put locking diffs on the front and the rear. New transfer case, bigger gearing. Bigger Axel's. It won't make it stock. Whereas a stock 90's Wrangler will, all day everyday. And they just get tougher the further back you go. They dumbed down 4x4's for emissions reasons and consumer reasons. More sorority girls will drive these than outdoors men. Fiat knows that. It's just not a capable off road vehicle. Note that all he talked about was cargo. He didn't mention approach, departure, break over, nothing. It's not an off road vehicle. It's a grocery getter. So is the Colorado. The real 4x4's are gone bud. You have to build it if you want it. A Suzuki Samari would make these look like a Barbie Jeep out in the sticks. A Nissan patrol would leave this thing. My xj would have to pull it out. Just like the stupid jks, every weekend.
@timesup63866 жыл бұрын
Those tailgate cables will fail
@soledadmonstabreh6 жыл бұрын
Incoming recall from FCA LUL
@semiauto31486 жыл бұрын
Without a doubt ! How many sheets of plywood would that hold before it snaps?
@coop42746 жыл бұрын
All new pickups use cables and have for years lmao.
@GuitarSolosInc.6 жыл бұрын
I bet the engine will go first.
@buffalobmf6 жыл бұрын
picks been using them for years
@bigtrucklittlerv79696 жыл бұрын
1,600lbs. is not the bed payload. Payload capacity is all passengers and cargo weight. Get you facts correct.
@ThunderCat19D6 жыл бұрын
Bed payload is the maximum amount of weight the bed is rated to handle gvw is what you are talking about and is total weight the vehicle can carry following DOT guidelines.
@5stardave6 жыл бұрын
@@ThunderCat19D GVWR is the total weight the truck is capable of including the truck's own weight. Payload is the GVWR minus the curb weight of an empty truck. According to the Gladiator presentation: 1,600 lbs is the vehicles payload, not the bed payload.
@bigtrucklittlerv79696 жыл бұрын
@@ThunderCat19D There is no bed payload on this vehicle. The drivers door pillar has a payload sticker that says "Payload capacity is all passengers and cargo loaded in vehicle" GVW is weight total loaded. GVWR IS MAX WEIGHT VEHICLE CAN WEIGH.
@ariash18able6 жыл бұрын
so you saying no fatties allowed? jk.
@brandonhawkins32666 жыл бұрын
Not about the bed but what is the ground clearance?
@trevorwondrow65966 жыл бұрын
Does a standard atv fit in the bed?
@gladgear66245 жыл бұрын
Whats the dimension from the box topside to the top of the cab?
@screes6206 жыл бұрын
It's way too long. I want a 2dr cab short bed, 100 inch wheelbase version.
@bevonmckoy52675 жыл бұрын
Is there an option of a bed cab
@roadfly3606 жыл бұрын
Can you get a retractable step under the rear bumper ?
@Quadratec6 жыл бұрын
Not an available factory option that we've seen, but I'm sure there will be aftermarket options!
@jdkoz985 жыл бұрын
If they make a performance version to fight the raptor I’m down, 500 awd horse power and fox suspension pl
@jaysteranka39045 жыл бұрын
I just had one more question? Will there be an option for a winch on the front of that truck?
@josephavery46775 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@philipwood87766 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that black is nice looking
@gwot5 жыл бұрын
what are the indents on the wheel wells for?
@jackrotter94346 жыл бұрын
Lots of negative comments below :/ But very nice to see practical and clever/simple things the engineers at Jeep are coming up with!
@Quadratec6 жыл бұрын
It's not for everyone, but all the little touches make it a well thought out vehicle.
@dpt44026 жыл бұрын
Are the rear tires that close to the body that the bed couldn't be a true 48" as it is so close with just under 2" per side needed or is it some dumb rule that puts the vehicle in a different class.
@steffen707-6 жыл бұрын
what about the 2x6 indent over the wheel wells?
@gerardpritchard6576 жыл бұрын
I can't wait to see this thing!
@thatguy36975 жыл бұрын
Ponytail half shaved head guy at :13 is super excited
@gibbethoskins86215 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see some modified Gladiators 🤤
@MeatyGoulash6 жыл бұрын
Any idea on price ???
@johnriley91416 жыл бұрын
How much payload dose it hold
@1903tx5 жыл бұрын
No stake pockets?
@ru55laye6 жыл бұрын
I cant wait to see this in the UK
@JeepTJWheelin5 жыл бұрын
Where's the Crew Chief? Now that's worth waiting on.
@pilotelliott6 жыл бұрын
I was there last Saturday, the only problem I had was the tailgate handle was very flimsy. Very thin piece of plastic
@adanlopez52516 жыл бұрын
Make a 2 door
@TheTonyjara4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if ya can order a gladiator without the bed?....probably not?...would like to build a Diy camper starting with a Diy flat bed.
@tombailey60366 жыл бұрын
How about a diesel with CTIS!!
@eduardodedios82136 жыл бұрын
MPG? Price?
@johnhenderson68405 жыл бұрын
does anyone know prices on these yet????
@teop78876 жыл бұрын
I want one!!! Great job 👍
@UBAYBE6 жыл бұрын
I sure hope jeep, ram, Chrysler fixes thier air suspension issues in cold weather...
@UBAYBE6 жыл бұрын
@John barfneck send me a picture of what that looks like... point is... I paid alot for the air suspension...
@VoodooCrab5 жыл бұрын
Does GM and Ford hire people to troll Jeep on KZbin? You would think people wait until they have actually seen and driven a vehicle before forming such negative opinions on display here.