Are You A Bad Enough Dude To Watch This Video? | Ranking the NES, Episode 014

[@steve43ful]

I just want to let everyone know that on DOS Caveman Games was known as “Caveman Ughlympics,” thank you.

[@bobbarker1984]

Gee thanks

[@steve43ful]

@@bobbarker1984 🫡

[@jkrycz]

I am always pleased to be reminded that Bad Dudes has the same premise as Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty.

[@kevinkuenn5733]

"Are you a bad enough dude to placate your A.I. girlfriend when she confronts you about the spare decor of your apartment?!"

[@aegisfate117]

That revelation would have saved a lot of time in metal gear. Scanlon

[@michaelkitchin9665]

"Are you a bad enough dude to sword fight the (former) President?"

[@francinethagard875]

iirc the origin of Balloon Fight was that Nintendo had Satoru Iwata and HAL mock up a version of Joust to show to Atari back when they were trying to get Atari to distribute the NES in America. Iwata liked Joust so much that he took what he'd learned about its physics to make Balloon Fight.

[@dukeofthebump]

I first experienced 1942 in the late 90s/early 2000s era of emulation, when things were mostly fine but some games had problems. I 100% thought the audio emulation was broken, I didn't think there was any way it was supposed to sound like that. Holy shit

[@michaelkitchin9665]

I've only played the Amstrad version and it's equally erm ... that. Although there gets a point where the projectiles get lost against the background. Cool.

[@GreatistheWorld]

Don’t get so much mate tossing in video games these days. I think video games should take another crack at the mate toss

[@Mentalocrity]

I think this may be the most gratifying video I’ve ever seen because I got Circus Caper from my cousins as a kid and I got stuck at the *exact same spot* with those gators. That game drove me NUTS and 20 years later I’m vindicated!!

[@nfugitt89]

You were playing this in 2004?

[@mediocrevideos]

circus caper was made by the same studio as dynowarz and dr jekyll and mr hyde AND keith courage in alpha zones, just an unbelievable pedigree

[@ChrisLT]

Feels like at this point, Jeff's said Dynowarz: Destruction of Spondylus out loud more than anyone in existence. As a kid, I thought Caveman Games was a fucking hilarious product. And since that's the only version of Bad Dudes I played, I just assumed that's the one everyone liked.

[@hitchey1978]

I came here for high level Balloon Fight gameplay and I leave feeling satisfied

[@JeffSoulliere]

Been unusually stressed this weekend but the old "Touch 'n' Rank" soothes the soul. Best wishes to you and the whole fam.

[@vincentlee8787]

I can't wait to see where LJN's The Uncanny X-Men winds up. I feel like it has a real shot at dethroning the champ.

[@scottcorso9247]

That game is impossible. It's going to cause Jeff to hemorrhage from his brain.

[@Blaszj]

I've never heard of Trog before but if I had that game as a young kid I would have gone nuts for it. A Pacman power fantasy with a dinosaur that eats people? I would have stood up and danced to every victory screen and I think the science is undervaluing that aspect.

[@niceTCyou]

I was 100% that child. It was NES game where I could get past the 3rd level, and that meant a lot to me. I also thought the dancing was rad, y’know 90s.

[@MA7ERICK]

My brother and I played it 2 player.

[@Celestatiune]

Caveman Games was a birthday present as a kid. I tried to like that game so hard. Hearing Jeff express hope that it won't be dogshit and then feeling all that hope leave immediately is bringing back some memories

[@kiloyardstare]

I absolutely loved Caveman Games as a 12 year old. Only worth playing if you have a human opponent, though.

[@junibug6790]

I remember my dad renting it for my sister and I, being equally hopeful that we stumbled across a great game the whole family could enjoy, then standing back and cackling while we young'uns struggled with the baffling controls.

[@xwize]

jeff coming in clutch with the video of the week

[@konga382]

If nobody's modded the "DUDES" truck paint job into American Truck Simulator yet, then we have failed as a society.

[@ToTheNines87368]

Watching Ballon Fight I would say that looks like an albeit simple but legitimately good time, probably even better with a friend.

[@MrTableDesk]

I went to a Hanshin Tigers game when I visited Japan back in like 2011. It was the most fun sports experience Ive ever had.

[@GameThatTune]

OH YES! We talked about Circus Caper on a recent episode, such a weird game!

[@Tenfey]

Got Caveman Games for Christmas, haven't played it in 30 years. Even though I never quite figured out what the hell I was doing, I still look back on it with some nostalgia. Dinosaur Pole-Vaulting is the first mental image I get whenever something causes me to remember this game exists. I was hoping you'd earn the Sweet Dance in Mate Toss, and you didn't disappoint, son

[@ice_queen9]

i like how the catcher in Bases Loaded instantly moves his glove back into the strike zone. nice touch. most of my baseball game strategy is throwing balls into the dirt or curving it inside or outside to try to mess with the other player though, so i don't think this game is for me

[@berroclesecorner]

There is nothing worse than watching something you really enjoyed as a kid (Trog) and realising it's dull as dishwater :(

[@scottcorso9247]

Every which way but Spondylous! Circus Caper gameplay and Jeff's reaction is PURE GOLD!! WORSE THAN ATHENA! hahahaha

[@redbaron2455]

I like that jingle in baloon fight when you win

[@bdre5555]

Yes 1942! It was in the first load of games I got, when I first got my NES for christmas. I got this, the legend of zelda, and Mach rider.

[@Achoohorsey]

Without the arcade sound samples of “OOOh!” and “I’m bad!” This Bad Dudes port is straight up ass

[@IgnatiusAlpha]

Balloon Fight is a classic no doubt. So is Galaga: DEMONS OF DEATH. Pinball Quest is interesting; never saw that one until now! 1942 has a bangin' soundtrack that goes hard. Bad Dudes may be a subpar port compared to the arcade version, but I didn't mind it that much and that Stage 2 music absolutely slays. The most interesting one to me in this bunch though was Circus Caper. I have to look more into that once because I refuse to believe it's worse than Athena.

[@transience242]

Looking forward to 1943. I'm a few years younger than you so 1943 was out by the time I came to the NES, and that was my go-to for the late 80s

[@koalaschola81]

May be nice if the games were highlighted (or texted) with a color/symbol reflective of their general genre to make eyeballing the list a bit easier as things move along when one is considering where a similar game would place so could get an immediate gauge (& reminder of older games already played from said genre) when looking to place something new; e.g. sports games highlighted blue, so when looking to place R.B.I. Baseball, could immediately locate and be reminded of Dusty Diamond and the original Baseball.

[@JeffGerstmannShow]

I was thinking about converting the master version of the list into a spreadsheet, yeah.

[@koalaschola81]

Sounds good. 👍 (The idea came to mind when you told someone in the chat that you felt Bad Dudes was worse than Renegade, but you put it a few spots higher, so I thought I should leave the idea....for the science). @@JeffGerstmannShow

[@liquidcrystal47]

Bases Loaded! I have not seen that in decades. We owned Bases Loaded 2 in my house. I never played the original. Based on this, and my memories of 2, I don't think there was much difference. I definitely remember some of that music.

[@moondark1031]

I don't disagree often with Jeff. But Bad Dudes NES is way better than he thinks. He didn't even do the spin kick. He is Bad at Bad Dudes.

[@bdre5555]

One of the highlights of my weekend! Thanks for uploading this gem!

[@thepenguin55]

It's funny that Jeff immediately pointed to Tiger-Heli as being better than 1942 as the NES versions of both games were made by Micronics. Same goes for three other games on the list: Super Pitfall, Ikari Warriors and Athena. Truly nothing but bangers came out of Micronics.

[@bdre5555]

Caveman games super reminds me of late 80s EGA PC games. Love it

[@bdre5555]

Who knew that Rob Gronkowski was in an NES game

[@ShaolinTechnoMage]

I had only seen 1942 in the arcade... the music in this one sounds like a SYNTEX ERROR on an APPLE IIe over and over again and it is painful... drives me crazy.

[@furrymessiah]

I've been watching this series so long that I can pinpoint to within two spots where Jeff will place the game. Also SPONDEELOOS

[@UberNeuman]

I'm a mediocre dude but I'll watch anyway. lol.

[@ArmCommander]

I remember Pinball Quest and wishing for more pinball RPG-style games. There was Wizorb (and probably others) which did that for Arkanoid, but a pinball RPG with good physics would be really fun.

[@RetroDrew]

Holy Striker on the SNES is some what similar. So check that out if you haven't

[@joeydavis5568]

Best part of every week!

[@pale_and_rich]

The music in 1942 is morse code.

[@LotteBlueJays]

2:35:45 NPB (Japanese baseball) doesn't have a mercy rule. They do still have ties after 12 innings but there's no mercy rule. Unless I'm misunderstanding and Jeff is talking about a videogame here.

[@houdin654jeff]

Kind of want a sequel/mash up to Caveman Games called Califori-ugh Games.

[@donovaneckstrom]

2:13:53 "The audio gets better the more you listen." Just before you said that my wife pleaded to me to turn down the volume on the TV.

[@BenGoodsonModular]

Caveman Games. A true EA joint. Chuck Rock skin available. Download now.

[@steve43ful]

Athena will always be the worst in my heart.

[@daggereye1]

Can't believe Jeff doesn't like NES Bad Dudes, I loved it as a kid, but it's all we got

[@buzzclikverifyme]

The C64 version of Caveman Games is called Caveman Ugh-lympics, which instantly makes it better.

[@esmerylan]

"Demons of Death" is only slightly more ludicrous than the subtitle Bandai saddled Xevious with: "The Avenger".

[@gimballock5106]

Learning here that Circus Charlie never came out in North America and it's blowing my mind. I guess its exposure was entirely on those various 100in1 bootleg carts!

[@OneDollarWilliam]

Did anyone else, upon hearing Jeff's story about Circus Caper, end up watching several hours of _Moeru! Onii-san_ , or is it just me?

[@MissAshley42]

As someone who returned from an arcade expo recently, I can confidently say that Balloon Fight is better than Joust 2. (I also played Galaga '88 for the first time there, and you can get a triple ship in it.)

[@Digitalbooty]

It seems like Trog is a less interesting version of the Sega arcade game "I'm Sorry," from 1985.

[@Mimekiller]

Never pondered the concept of a pac man game where pac man can whip the ghosts ass up and down the block for drill

[@cbeaumont]

I own a Bad Dudes arcade machine and didn't know!

[@Spirit0f]

My hot take is that Bad Dudes was always a bad game, it's just that the NES port is exceptionally so.

[@dukeofthebump]

They should do a modern day remake of Bad Dudes called Ninja Biden

[@bluechew69]

Everything is worse than Mr. Blue and the Drunkard Chew.

[@octocoq]

One more episode closer to Metal Storm, he said the name of it this episode!

[@Ghadius]

This was a rough patch. Someone suggest a few gems. The man has three kids now and he got Caveman Games, cmon.

[@ElectricVikingTube]

Someone has to say it: Famista actually got started in 1986, and Namco published a new one annually on Nintendo systems through 1997. The World Stadium series, which is basically just Famista divorced from Nintendo, showed up on PC Engine, PS1 and PS2. There's also Kyukai Dochuuki, which is basically a mashup of Yokai Dochuuki and Famista on the Mega Drive. It's not very good!

[@ladambell]

38:08 Oh please. Okay, let me reintroduce you two. Rider, meet dino. Dino, meet rider. EDIT: OOF, the physics in Pinball Quest look absolutely wretched. No wonder I've never heard anyone talk about it ever.

[@vizuz]

Caveman Games seems to use some of the same sound effects as Captain Skyhawk for some reason

[@egilland]

Kung Fu > Balloon Fight is a hell of a take

[@newblakestone]

Had to look up when he said “come on THAG”

[@d.s.i.6722]

Circus Caper: the Sisyphus of Nintendo games

[@RealThatDesignerGuy]

Balloon fight bonus music is pretty rip but that Goldeneye pause music STILL goes harder than it has any right to be.

[@killyouall]

Waiting patiently for Mighty Bomb Jack to pop up

[@MNeely]

Why were there so many prehistoric games during the 8/16 bit generations of consoles?

[@absoluteego]

jeff played a lot of pinball quest but never figured out you had to buy the stoppers to win?

[@kevinkuenn5733]

I played the Commodore 64 version of Caveman Games a lot, and it's not any better, this is pretty much the same as I remember it. After a while I exclusively played Fire Start, it's the only good event. Maybe the occasional Mate Toss for variety, but that's it.

[@jaredfeuerhelm5691]

Let's try this again. Rider meet dino, dino meet rider.

[@funforalgernon]

2:33:45 top 5 moment in video game history

[@pointblank0020]

Caveman Games is definitely of a time

[@MarkAltosaar]

I thought Jeff said he'd tell a story about 1942 after, but I may have missed it...

[@RT55J]

my guess is that he was gonna mention how 1942 for the NES was developed by Micronics, which was allegedly just one guy

[@MonotoneTim]

I thought Rare did a good job recreating mate toss in Kinect Sports, honestly.

[@BrettLevin4096]

Can anybody explain what genre of music the 1942 background music is? IBM PC keyboard with key stuck down core?

[@QStealth]

Jeff, I am not sure if I am bad enough to watch this. Please let me know if I am bad enough to watch this.

[@ZantetsukenGilgamesh]

Imagine your little sister being kidnapped by a circus 😢

[@msx6800]

i'm bad

[@DoominMacGruber]

How can I get in on these live streams? Or am I dumb and these are pre-recorded with no audience? Is Patreon the way?

[@pointblank0020]

Friday mornings

[@bigerich]

Twitch, this is the stream VOD

[@robbush2942]

Bought Johnny Turbo's Arcade: Bad Dudes on the switch awhile back for £6 and enjoyed and played it more than tears of the kingdom that cost me £59

[@Dishamonpow]

Neat.

[@The_Halfway_Channel]

NES Bad Dudes is the only Bad Dudes I knew of....I hated it as a kid.

[@AntiSocialHero]

I don’t have much experience with Trog, but it looks like it is meant to be played as a competitive same screen score chase. I think that is why it shows your character Bloop winning at the end of each stage. Seems really boring single player.

[@xtlm]

1:05:48 "Is Renegade Better? Yes! Absolutely!" As he is actively placing Bad Dudes 5 places higher then Renegade lol. This list is a sham!! Where is the science!! lol

[@Gafgarion45]

I got to that part, had to listen to it again, then scroll through the comments to see if anybody mentioned it. I have to imagine it was just a heat of the moment thing, but I just don't think this scientific list will pass a peer review.

[@KrunchyTheClown78]

Yet another game that was ported to the Atari 7800, and that version mercilessly craps all over the NES version.

[@SatansLtlBaby]

we had caveman games (caveman ugh-lypics) on our PC when we were kids. it was a terrible port. not that the source material was anything to write home about either.

[@glueball]

mario party is the event game of the now

[@redbaron2455]

that clown game.. how did it get licensed

[@takaroth]

oh my god this 1942 music is an atrocity, I remember the game from the arcade and it was so much better than this

[@takaroth]

actually thinking about it i might be thinking of the sequel but, still

[@johnnada6855]

Somehow i could never get to like the nes., i got hooked with the genesis, then pc, then the ps1 back then., i respect some nes games, i kinda like mario 2 and 3, and zelda, but the rest... i know there are some interesting weird famicom games people been translating, but still, i don´t like much the nes or the 2600 or the comodore, i remember my older cousins playing and i did have a nes but didn´t really like it

[@OrinLinwe]

...This is two for two of inscrutably terrible vaulting in mediocre sport-events games.

[@beatchef]

Balloon Fight reminds me how good the music on black box NES games were. Also the band YMCK are masters of making crazy complicated versions of this sound, and in fact were hired to do the music for the first party Nintendo puzzle game PiCOPiCT/PiCTOBiTS which features all re-arranged classic NES game music. The re-arranged Super Mario Bros castle stage music goes so hard it's silly.

[@beatchef]

Balloon Fight is a lot of fun, but could really have done with a level editor so you can make your own stages, or even better create your own Balloon Trip levels for friends to beat. Maybe using codes.

[@seafooddotcom]

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