The revamped beginner's beehive kit from Vevor. Did they fix it?

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@Ittiz
@Ittiz 4 ай бұрын
I got one of those last year, it was junk and cut wrong. I had to cut a clear sheet of plastic to cover the viewing windows. The frames were so skinny you could easily fit 11 in a box and the bees hated the "waxed" foundation. Wonkey comb everywhere, I had to be super diligent to keep scraping all the wonky comb. Glad they listen to input.
@Huntnlady7
@Huntnlady7 4 ай бұрын
Might not have been beeswax
@Ittiz
@Ittiz 4 ай бұрын
@@Huntnlady7 or they cut it with something at the very least.
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 4 ай бұрын
When I did the review of this kit last year I highly recommended viewers not to buy it, to many issues. Sorry to hear you had a very bad experience with the kit. Thanks for watching, and I hope you will check out more of my bee wrangling/ bee rescues adventures and let me know what you think of them. By the way, I post a new video every Friday morning, and I look forward to hearing from you again soon. God's peace. Mr. Ed
@Ittiz
@Ittiz 4 ай бұрын
@@JeffHorchoff I wish I had seen that review before I purchased, but it sounds spot on! Did you have any issues with the foundation that came with it, or did you just rewax it assuming it was junk to begin with?
@sentimentalbloke7586
@sentimentalbloke7586 4 ай бұрын
Here in Australia we are getting the identical product flogged by the cheaper suppliers and they are manufactured in China, what would the Chinese know about bees and honey as they have people hand pollinating due to the amount of toxic chemicals that they frequently use on their agriculture, they have virtually wiped out bees and other pollinating insects. Sorry although I am a Quaker and feel for them in their self induced dilemma I would be concerned that the lumber would also have been treated, I like my bees way too much to try the stuff.
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 4 ай бұрын
I'm with you 100%. If you want quality, it is going to cost. Going cheap may get you by, but for how long? Thanks for watching. God's peace brother. Mr. Ed
@JennM517
@JennM517 4 ай бұрын
Nice that they listened and made improvements. I received the older type kit for Christmas. I wouldn't have bought that brand based on your previous video. Since I was going to start beekeeping with 2 hives I bought another set so everything would match. One deep and one medium had cracks and one set of deep frame side pieces didn't fit the top bar. I contacted Vevor and they sent me an entire new kit to make it right. I'm not sure how long they'll last but I'm using them. I did add plexiglass to the observation windows, and I like them. My husband who isn't a hands-on participant in my new hobby, actually looked through the windows last weekend with me. I added more wax to the foundations and that helped. I put one foundation in the super without extra wax and they didn't touch it. I also upgraded the bottom boards to Hillco plastic screened bottom boards and I like them.
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 4 ай бұрын
Good for you Jenn, very happy to hear it is working out for you, and I love your upgrade to the HIllco bottom board. Thanks for watching, and I hope you will check out more of my bee wrangling/ bee rescues adventures and let me know what you think of them. By the way, I post a new video every Friday morning, and I look forward to hearing from you again soon. God's peace. Mr. Ed
@JennM517
@JennM517 4 ай бұрын
@@JeffHorchoff I've been binge watching for the last year or so in preparation for my first hives. Love all your videos especially the cut out videos. Need a license here in Georgia for cut outs but I have a swarm trap hoping for a bonus colony. I appreciate you! Best to you Mona and Wreck it Ralph and Good Time Charlie!!
@timan2039
@timan2039 4 ай бұрын
Building up the panels are part of keeping the cost down. If they used an appropriate adhesive they could hold for a good bit.
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 4 ай бұрын
Agreed, and I hope the adhesive will hold up in the elements. Thanks for watching. God's peace. Mr. Ed
@Phil_86
@Phil_86 4 ай бұрын
Glad to see Vevor did listen and make adjustments. I agree with you on the pressed glue joints especially since they are only protected by bee's wax. I've done outside doors just like that, using 1x6 pine that were put through a planer and table saw, primed and painted them with exterior paint. Even so, some of the glued joints have minor separation and thats with exterior/interior cross braces. The cedar they used would be a better wood for exterior purposes ie climate but don't know how long bee's wax would hold up to the elements. Thank you Mr Ed and God Bless!!
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 4 ай бұрын
As a woodworker I know a glue joint is only as good as the glue that was used, especially if the joint is simply a butt joint. If a finger joint is used, adding surface area to the joint, at least more gluing surface is made available and perhaps adding to the longevity of the connectiveness. Hopefully the glue they used was water resistant and the joint holds for a long time. Thank you for your blessings and for watching. God's peace Phil. Mr. Ed
@Phil_86
@Phil_86 4 ай бұрын
@@JeffHorchoff Yes, the right glue is important and I did use Titebond 3 which is there waterproof exterior glue.
@Huntnlady7
@Huntnlady7 4 ай бұрын
@@JeffHorchoff Titebond for the win, even on frames!
@Blackswan19874
@Blackswan19874 4 ай бұрын
Jeff , your concern about the jointed up pieces is warranted , had a Vevor some time ago and after 2 seasons the Florida Sun and humidity twisted up everything ! Plus the Observation windows end up so waxed and propolised you can’t see through them in 3-4 months . Seems they remedied the dovetail joints . Thanks for your revisit . We use the Premier hidden joint boxes now .
@Huntnlady7
@Huntnlady7 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the recommendation to Lance Honey Farms. I'll try them.
@lavenderlilacproductions
@lavenderlilacproductions 4 ай бұрын
I had my vevor and another pre waxed brand warp pretty badly as well. Couldn't glue the joints. And in both cases the wax coating flaked off after a season.
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 4 ай бұрын
You can't go wrong with Premier, and I just spoke with them yesterday, and they are introducing a beginners beehive kit themselves very soon. And yes, I will be reviewing it. Thanks for watching. God's peace Edward. Mr. Ed
@sixosixo
@sixosixo 4 ай бұрын
I ordered 2 BeeCastle deep boxes with frames and foundation and was very impressed with the quality.
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 4 ай бұрын
They make an excellent product. I did a review on them last year. Thanks for watching, and I hope you will check out more of my bee wrangling/ bee rescues adventures and let me know what you think of them. By the way, I post a new video every Friday morning, and I look forward to hearing from you again soon. God's peace Geoff. Mr. Ed
@gallowaylights
@gallowaylights 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for helping to drive quality equipment sales!😊
@Keanu-x7w
@Keanu-x7w 4 ай бұрын
Great begineer bee kit. If I was young and this was my first hive-I would want a window.
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 4 ай бұрын
The viewing port is attractive to some beekeepers, but I'd prefer to have the hand holds instead of the viewing port. Thanks for watching, and I hope you will check out more of my bee wrangling/ bee rescues adventures and let me know what you think of them. By the way, I post a new video every Friday morning, and I look forward to hearing from you again soon. God's peace. Mr. Ed
@Keanu-x7w
@Keanu-x7w 4 ай бұрын
@@JeffHorchoff Yea, I don't like the port....only if I was a newbie. God Bless You...God Speed.
@kathyhathaway8823
@kathyhathaway8823 4 ай бұрын
Hello Mr. Ed the main thing I saw in this follow up was with yes the window is on the sides SO that makes it that there are NO grab handles in the sides where you pick the boxes up . The grab handles are just on the ends where I do not pick up from the front and back. I think the window is a wast I need handles. Thanks for the unboxing review. I think I would pass on this setup just because on the windows an no handles . Thanks
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 4 ай бұрын
I agree 100%, give me handles not a window. I would pass as well, but there are some out there that will buy simply based on price, and I wonder, in the long run, is it really a bargain. Thanks for watching. God's peace Kathy. Mr. Ed
@thadaylsworth6648
@thadaylsworth6648 4 ай бұрын
I hope to see you on my travels this summer. I am glad that the dovetails were lined up this time.
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 4 ай бұрын
I hope so as well, it's always great meeting folks who follow along with my adventures face to face. They did improve on the milling for sure. Thanks for watching. God's peace Thad. Mr. Ed
@Huntnlady7
@Huntnlady7 4 ай бұрын
Solid bottom board; necessary in the Southwest. Two observation windows on the sides of the hive. All you are going to see is an end frame. That's the last one to be filled. It would make way more sense to have a window in the back. Inner cover has exit ports- the only entrance/exit should be at the bottom. "Waxed", I bought waxed foundation from Amazon, a Chinese supplier, and it was coated with paraffin. The difference was readily apparent. Where is this company located? That should be a clue to whether you want to send them your money. Me, I'm the poorest beekeeper in the USA, so I still build my own. Thank you for the review.
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 4 ай бұрын
I agree on all accounts, very good comment. Thanks for watching, and I hope you will check out more of my bee wrangling/ bee rescues adventures and let me know what you think of them. By the way, I post a new video every Friday morning, and I look forward to hearing from you again soon. God's peace. Mr. Ed
@joebeach7759
@joebeach7759 4 ай бұрын
Great followup review and I'm glad they made the changes
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 4 ай бұрын
I just wish they used solid wood for the sides. In my opinion, that glueing up stuff is a bad thing for wood when it's exposed to the elements. Thanks for watching, and I hope you will check out more of my bee wrangling/ bee rescues adventures and let me know what you think of them. By the way, I post a new video every Friday morning, and I look forward to hearing from you again soon. God's peace Joe. Mr. Ed
@joebeach7759
@joebeach7759 4 ай бұрын
@JeffHorchoff I agree, but at least it has dove tail joints, which will help prevent that from happening. At least it looks like they made it out of cedar which won't rot in the elements
@horsetuna
@horsetuna 4 ай бұрын
I found a native bee queen the other day! I thought she was an ant so tiny! I was gonna let her go today as it was raining but she escaped.
@EvanHofmeyer
@EvanHofmeyer 4 ай бұрын
Hi mr Ed. Nice combo. And jea. I font like the window either. Its a novelty. Not for everyone. It should only be a option. And not the norm.
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 4 ай бұрын
Agreed, God's peace brother. Mr. Ed
@AntonyTrupe
@AntonyTrupe 4 ай бұрын
The "butt joints" are very strong. I make mine like that and have never had an issue in 10 years.
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 4 ай бұрын
I have glued literally thousands of feet of wood using a butt joint, and as long as you are using good glue, the joint will last a lifetime. Thanks for watching, and I hope you will check out more of my bee wrangling/ bee rescues adventures and let me know what you think of them. By the way, I post a new video every Friday morning, and I look forward to hearing from you again soon. God's peace Antony. Mr. Ed
@BryanCorner-x3h
@BryanCorner-x3h 4 ай бұрын
When those viewing window covers have wood grain the LEAST they could have done is match the wood grain to the box. That's part of real workmanship.
@joesinakandid528
@joesinakandid528 4 ай бұрын
"User" Time for you to face up to the facts. You're looking at a fully usable, inexpensive hive and not a monumental work of art. If you do, in fact, want a work of art be prepared (and rightly so) for a custom created hive at at least twice the cost. So Jeff, I wonder if the packaging you received will be the updated, " New standard" or if "things" might slip a little towards the way it was before? I guess time will tell.
@JennM517
@JennM517 4 ай бұрын
Mine match.
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 4 ай бұрын
I thought the exact same thing. As a woodworker, those things just stand out. I suppose for many folks, they do not even notice it. Thanks for watching, and I hope you will check out more of my bee wrangling/ bee rescues adventures and let me know what you think of them. By the way, I post a new video every Friday morning, and I look forward to hearing from you again soon. God's peace Bryan. Mr. Ed
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 4 ай бұрын
Joe, that is the real question. Was the package I received the "norm" or was it a special order. I certainly hope it is the norm. Thanks for watching, and I hope you will check out more of my bee wrangling/ bee rescues adventures and let me know what you think of them. By the way, I post a new video every Friday morning, and I look forward to hearing from you again soon. God's peace brother. Mr. Ed
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 4 ай бұрын
Glad to hear that Jenn. God's peace. Mr. Ed
@JJDigitalartStudio
@JJDigitalartStudio 4 ай бұрын
God bless you Jeff. You have so many subs now and you are viral on YT. I still pray for you and the bees. JJ
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 4 ай бұрын
Yours and everyone's else's blessings really do help me, thank you so very much for them and for watching. God's peace JJ. Mr. Ed
@DialedN_07
@DialedN_07 4 ай бұрын
Finally. An honest review where the person doesn't kiss tail the whole time. Appreciate you sir! It doesn't matter what product is being reviewed, you can always find SOMETHING you don't like about it. Most channels just give GLOWING reviews because they got a product for free.
@isabelleblanchet3694
@isabelleblanchet3694 4 ай бұрын
Or they are being paid to say only positive.
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 4 ай бұрын
Every product I review gets an honest assessment from me. If the product can stand on it's own merits, I'm happy to talk about it, and if there are problems that I see, I will talk about that as well. I'm simply trying to give a review that viewers will find helpful if they are considering looking into purchasing it. Thanks for watching, and I hope you will check out more of my bee wrangling/ bee rescues adventures and let me know what you think of them. By the way, I post a new video every Friday morning, and I look forward to hearing from you again soon. God's peace brother. Mr. Ed
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 4 ай бұрын
I try living by the code of "honesty is the best policy," it has worked for me. Thanks for watching, and I hope you will check out more of my bee wrangling/ bee rescues adventures and let me know what you think of them. By the way, I post a new video every Friday morning, and I look forward to hearing from you again soon. God's peace Isabelle. Mr. Ed
@MinnesotaBeekeeper
@MinnesotaBeekeeper 4 ай бұрын
Brother Jeff I wonder how long the waxed exterior will last. I think the Hover was about 4 years. But great price. Glad they listened, to a point. Not using solid single wood for the supers sounds pretty iffy. Thank you sir.
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 4 ай бұрын
Hey Mike! Vevor did take note of most of the items I addressed. Still, gluing up wood to build the sides is not a good thing. Great hearing from you, God's peace brother. Mr. Ed
@sfcmmacro
@sfcmmacro 4 ай бұрын
As a “woodworker” that really good at making “sawdust” I find it really hard to pay so much for simple joinery. I started by making my own Layens hives… in my second d season, I’ve found them to be great for making splits. Now the challenge has been thrown to create a “Langstroth” hive that uses Layens frames for the brood boxes… but 1/2 sizes Layens frames for supers.😊
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 4 ай бұрын
I'm a big, big fan of the Layens hive and the long hive using Lang frames. For old guys like myself with a troublesome back, they are the perfect fit. Thanks for watching, and I hope you will check out more of my bee wrangling/ bee rescues adventures and let me know what you think of them. By the way, I post a new video every Friday morning, and I look forward to hearing from you again soon. God's peace. Mr. Ed
@Drewjober
@Drewjober 4 ай бұрын
I have 2 vevor extractors 8 frame and I modified the baskets to hold the frames shallow and medium frames correctly with stainless parts and finished their welds lol
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 4 ай бұрын
Vevor products are not the top of the line, but they do work, with a bit of adjusting...sometimes. Thanks for watching. God's peace brother. Mr. Ed
@Joeybagofdonuts76
@Joeybagofdonuts76 4 ай бұрын
Those instructions are top-notch. High gloss color. Looks easy enough for a simple mind like me can understand. 😅
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 4 ай бұрын
And me as well! God's peace Joey. Mr. Ed
@bluzervic
@bluzervic 4 ай бұрын
Thanks Mr Ed…. Great evaluation 👍
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 4 ай бұрын
Thank you brother, I hope all is well. God's peace. Mr. Ed
@BrianCooper901
@BrianCooper901 4 ай бұрын
We have some non-wax dipped ones that are edge joined that we primed and painted and they are coming apart at the joints in the sides unfortunately. I think the vents in the viewing glass are not a good idea. The bees will just put propolis in there and if it gets deep enough it will make it hard to get the observation door off.
@phillee2814
@phillee2814 4 ай бұрын
Absolutely - plus if people really want holes they can easily drill them (I've never known bees to like a draughty home - in nature even large colonies manage with a single, small entrance), versus the impossibility of un-drilling holes once they have been made!
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 4 ай бұрын
I agree, the windows will create more problems with the boxes. Still, there are some folks out there who want that option. Thanks for watching, and I hope you will check out more of my bee wrangling/ bee rescues adventures and let me know what you think of them. By the way, I post a new video every Friday morning, and I look forward to hearing from you again soon. God's peace Brian. Mr. Ed
@davebishop8683
@davebishop8683 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the update.
@johnmallette3143
@johnmallette3143 4 ай бұрын
thank you Jesus again.,..,.stay blessed.,.,peace
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 4 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for your blessings and for watching, it is greatly appreciated. Also, I hope you will check out more of my bee wrangling/ bee rescues adventures and let me know what you think of them. By the way, I post a new video every Friday morning, and I look forward to hearing from you again soon. God's peace John. Mr. Ed
@wpankey57
@wpankey57 4 ай бұрын
Thanks Mr. Ed. I really value your opinion and appreciate your product reviews.
@steveshoemaker6347
@steveshoemaker6347 4 ай бұрын
l think for the $money that is awesome deal + all of the work that went into the making of this Beehive.....Thanks Jeff ans Blessing to you and yours.....LOL I AIN'T LATE THIS TIME..... Old F-4 Phantom ll jet fighter pilot Shoe🇺🇸
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 4 ай бұрын
I did not know you were a pilot, you and Charlie could spend hours sharing your stories and I'd love to be there listening. God's peace Steve. Mr. Ed
@JoseOrtiz-zb7gq
@JoseOrtiz-zb7gq 4 ай бұрын
Wow I really like this . I have been pricing a starter kit at a few different places . This is a great price. Think I'm going to get me one . Ty for the information.
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 4 ай бұрын
Let me know how it works out for you. Glad to have been some help. God's peace Jose. Mr. Ed
@brewman1drummer
@brewman1drummer 4 ай бұрын
vevor! hell of a deal! i would say the joints are to keep it from warping! Nice!
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 4 ай бұрын
The dovetail joint is a great joint, and they have really fixed the issues that were present in the last review. Thanks for watching, and I hope you will check out more of my bee wrangling/ bee rescues adventures and let me know what you think of them. By the way, I post a new video every Friday morning, and I look forward to hearing from you again soon. God's peace brother. Mr. Ed
@honeyandthecoop803
@honeyandthecoop803 4 ай бұрын
Great review Mr.Ed, I agree that a few rubber bands should be included on the frame parts
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 4 ай бұрын
It would just make the packing so much more presentable. They did such a great job with the packaging, why not go a bit further and put some rubber bands on the frame parts? Thanks for watching, and I hope you will check out more of my bee wrangling/ bee rescues adventures and let me know what you think of them. By the way, I post a new video every Friday morning, and I look forward to hearing from you again soon. God's peace. Mr. Ed
@moondog4313
@moondog4313 4 ай бұрын
I wished I could do a couple behives
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 4 ай бұрын
Maybe you could, all you have to do is ask. God's peace brother. Mr. Ed
@terrysaunders8948
@terrysaunders8948 4 ай бұрын
ther nice hives i will be looking in on them god bless you mr ed
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 4 ай бұрын
For an entire beehive, the price is attractive, but I am still a bit leery of the glued sides and the window for viewing. Other than those 2 points it is nice. Thank you for your blessings and for watching. God's peace Terry. Mr. Ed
@williamhesbach4072
@williamhesbach4072 4 ай бұрын
According to Vevor, the box is glued up cedar. Time outside will tell if the glue joints fail, but I doubt they will, given the superior waterproof glue technologies available. Also, the wax coating should help resist water for a long time. The dovetail joints are needed for assembly because they hold without glue, and gluing would not be possible with a waxed joint. The dovetail joints are probably the weak link since they may separate. But again, the wax should help.
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 4 ай бұрын
All very good points, thank you for sharing them. Thanks for watching, and I hope you will check out more of my bee wrangling/ bee rescues adventures and let me know what you think of them. By the way, I post a new video every Friday morning, and I look forward to hearing from you again soon. God's peace William. Mr. Ed
@lewiemcneely9143
@lewiemcneely9143 4 ай бұрын
I percieve a raw deal with an observatio0n port knowing you. God Bless you and the rest of the gang!
@Beecreative247
@Beecreative247 4 ай бұрын
Hello Mr ED, maybe you remember me from previous comments, but then again, there are a lot of people commenting. I started bee keeping because of your videos, though i live in slovakia, and the things are completly different here, seasons, bees, and honey flows, your videos helped me a lot to make myself confident to start this hobby. I started a new youtube channel, to show my progress, and for people to comment if i make misstakes (which i surely will do) I hope you have time to check out what i did, there is only 1 video on that channel as i am writing this, but next sunday i will do my first checkup. Hoping you be my 8th (!!!!) subscriber and give me some comments of what i do wrong, and maybe tips to do things better. Love your channel, and hope to visit you one time. Greetings Erik, from slovakia
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 4 ай бұрын
Glad to hear you find my channel entertaining and useful. Thank you so much for being a part of it. By the way, I'm a new sub to your channel. God's peace Erik. Mr. Ed
@Beecreative247
@Beecreative247 4 ай бұрын
@@JeffHorchoff thank you so much, i hope not to disapoint you with my progress
@ClaudemirHonorio-yu5ou
@ClaudemirHonorio-yu5ou 4 ай бұрын
Hello Mr Ed,muito boa noite, que coisa mais linda esta caixa em,obra de arte mesmo, parabéns pelo vídeo, que Deus abençoe seu trabalho 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝
@jeffcotton2235
@jeffcotton2235 4 ай бұрын
Did you peel the film off of the plexiglass viewing windows? Doesn't look like it to me. Good Video!
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 4 ай бұрын
I did not, now I'll have to go back and do that. Thanks for pointing that out to me and for watching the video. God's peace Jeff. Mr. Ed
@captbriansbees
@captbriansbees 4 ай бұрын
The observation ports is why I didn’t buy another VEVOR. I did buy 4 deep Propala boxes and love the joints on those. I dipped them in Ecowood.
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 4 ай бұрын
In my opinion, you did VERY well in choosing. You won't regret your choice. God's peace Brian. Mr. Ed
@Huntnlady7
@Huntnlady7 4 ай бұрын
Ecowood- LOL, LOL, LOL. I use oil-based paint on all my hives; inside and out. The New Mexico sun and heat is brutal.
@captbriansbees
@captbriansbees 4 ай бұрын
@@Huntnlady7 Absolutely, I don’t think I would use a wax dipped hive in the heat you experience out there. Do you insulate from the heat?
@markpashia7067
@markpashia7067 4 ай бұрын
Something tells me that the viewing port will melt stuck with the wax coating. Also the risk of water intrusion at the port is not zero. But for the price it could serve some folks.
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 4 ай бұрын
I have to agree on all your points. Thanks for watching. God's peace Mark. Mr. Ed
@heatherlewis3713
@heatherlewis3713 4 ай бұрын
Vevor is a Chinese Company. I don't like that they've used multiple pieces of wood joined together to make the panels. I also wonder what the plastic foundations are made of. They should be food grade plastic. But I bet you there not. I am in a wheelchair & would love a Flow Hive. Their panels use Dovetail joins & are solid pieces of wood. They also use food grade plastic. A Flow Hive wasn't designed for people to be lazy & not look after their bees. They are big on people looking after their bees. It's just certain parts of the process have been made a bit easier. If you can check on your bees & remove some of the honey without disturbing them all the time, that has to be a good thing.
@Burntbranchcreekbees
@Burntbranchcreekbees 4 ай бұрын
Know the boxes are coated with beeswax. Wonder if the glue joints would stand up to dipping those in paraffin/rosin. And if that process would ultimately protect the glue joints from the elements. With as much rain as there is there painting for sure. But how well will the paint adhere to the beeswax? Might be a future video. 😊
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 4 ай бұрын
Those are all questions I have myself. I do love the dovetail joints and the material for the boxes, but the uncertainties of so many other elements of the box would make me apprehensive to buy one. God's peace Russ. Mr. Ed
@AndrewAHayes
@AndrewAHayes 4 ай бұрын
I make my own boxes and frames these days but when I first started I bought a kit from a UK maker and the sides were all made from one board, the frame parts were not banded though. I am not a fan of those observation windows, IMO it is pointless as you cant see anything to inform you apart from there are some bees inside. They claim on their website that coating the hives with bees wax reduces the likleyhood of bees swarming, I had a good giggle at that one!
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 4 ай бұрын
I applaud you for building your own equipment, really cool! The windows are silly, for one, they are on the wrong side. Plus, I'd rather have the handle holes than the window. It's unbelievable what some manufactures will say to sway an uninformed buyer. Thanks for watching, and I hope you will check out more of my bee wrangling/ bee rescues adventures and let me know what you think of them. By the way, I post a new video every Friday morning, and I look forward to hearing from you again soon. God's peace Andrew. Mr. Ed
@JulieRoss-q3q
@JulieRoss-q3q 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for responding. The capped brood in many cells is cracked open a bit as if they were about to emerge but did not. Do you think the force of the extractor could pull them out of just a cracked capping? Wish I could send a pic, not sure how. JR
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 4 ай бұрын
Since you are wanting the honey, it may be worth the chance of using the extractor and then filtering the honey as the honey flows from the honey gate. If larva are ejected while the extractor is running, the filter will catch them and not get into the filtered honey. God's peace Julie. Mr. Ed
@TheBurntSportsman
@TheBurntSportsman 4 ай бұрын
I'm an avid Apimaye user. I got one hive and 1 nuc that are Apimaye and plan to get more of them next year. Not cheap but they'll last a lot longer.
@Huntnlady7
@Huntnlady7 4 ай бұрын
The ugly plastic ones?
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 4 ай бұрын
Apimaye hives are some of the best hives on the market, I love them. I love going to conferences and find them in attendance, I get to talk with them about their awesome product. Thanks for watching, and I hope you will check out more of my bee wrangling/ bee rescues adventures and let me know what you think of them. By the way, I post a new video every Friday morning, and I look forward to hearing from you again soon. God's peace brother. Mr. Ed
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 4 ай бұрын
I think they look really cool! God's peace. Mr. Ed
@berrrygr
@berrrygr 4 ай бұрын
I noticed they did not have hand holds on the sides. I never lift my boxes from the front and back.
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 4 ай бұрын
That is another reason I would not want the window, I'd rather have a hand hole. Thanks for watching, and I hope you will check out more of my bee wrangling/ bee rescues adventures and let me know what you think of them. By the way, I post a new video every Friday morning, and I look forward to hearing from you again soon. God's peace Gary. Mr. Ed
@beep3r
@beep3r 4 ай бұрын
Solid pieces of wood get more expensive by the width
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 4 ай бұрын
That it does which is one of the reasons these boxes are as inexpensive as they are. Thanks for watching, and I hope you will check out more of my bee wrangling/ bee rescues adventures and let me know what you think of them. By the way, I post a new video every Friday morning, and I look forward to hearing from you again soon. God's peace. Mr. Ed
@cornishsean1
@cornishsean1 4 ай бұрын
Vevor make lots of different products i have a diesel heater for my camper made by them
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 4 ай бұрын
They certainly do, and some of it is really good stuff. Thanks for watching, and I hope you will check out more of my bee wrangling/ bee rescues adventures and let me know what you think of them. By the way, I post a new video every Friday morning, and I look forward to hearing from you again soon. God's peace Sean. Mr. Ed
@philaandrew100
@philaandrew100 4 ай бұрын
I reckon 12 months in a humid environment and the boards will seperate. Coming from China they will have used PVA... But I could be wrong and they may have used PU, only time will tell.
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 4 ай бұрын
My same thoughts, what type of glue did they use? I will say this, other than the glueing of the planks to form the sides, these kits are not bad. But then again, if your boxes fall apart at the seams, what good is it?. Thanks for watching. God's peace Phil. Mr. Ed
@dcrosco1458
@dcrosco1458 4 ай бұрын
I paid 160 for my beginner beehive on amazon same size
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 4 ай бұрын
It pays to shop around. Thanks for watching, and I hope you will check out more of my bee wrangling/ bee rescues adventures and let me know what you think of them. By the way, I post a new video every Friday morning, and I look forward to hearing from you again soon. God's peace. Mr. Ed
@kellybryson7754
@kellybryson7754 4 ай бұрын
Have you tried the Flow Hive yet?
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 4 ай бұрын
I had one 6 years ago. It was not the right fit for me. Thanks for watching, and I hope you will check out more of my bee wrangling/ bee rescues adventures and let me know what you think of them. By the way, I post a new video every Friday morning, and I look forward to hearing from you again soon. God's peace Kelly. Mr. Ed
@raystevens687
@raystevens687 4 ай бұрын
Well Jeff I see ware your coming from with all that gluing. I don't know if you noticed door frames for a house is a bunch of glue ups. The thing I can tell you is keep up with the wax maybe at least once a year and I'm just guessing. Oh I hope you and family and friends are safe with all these crazy Tornadoes.
@GASTONEDUARDOFAJARDOCARR-qx1rt
@GASTONEDUARDOFAJARDOCARR-qx1rt 4 ай бұрын
Hello. Two questions. The transparent plate is to see the population of the hive, that is, is it a strong hive? The other, why is the hole in the lid oval or elongated, how do they feed through that shape of the hole?
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 4 ай бұрын
Observation windows are very common on beehives, it allows the beekeeper to see their bees without opening the hive and having bees come out. Very often the hole on the inner cover is to allow feeding sugar water to the bees internally instead of externally. Thanks for watching, and I hope you will check out more of my bee wrangling/ bee rescues adventures and let me know what you think of them. By the way, I post a new video every Friday morning, and I look forward to hearing from you again soon. God's peace Gaston. Mr. Ed
@GASTONEDUARDOFAJARDOCARR-qx1rt
@GASTONEDUARDOFAJARDOCARR-qx1rt 4 ай бұрын
Thank you very much Mr. Ed. Any doubts will be clarified and explained. From what can be seen, the windows have to be made of a special or particular transparent material, considering that it must adequately isolate the interior temperature of the hive from the outside. On the other hand, I thought there was some difference between the circular holes and the oval holes on the lid, but from what you point out, both fulfill the same function as a feeder. Of course I follow your exploits constantly, because I receive updated videos because I subscribe to your channel, but I would not dare under any circumstances to do what you do, I'm not crazy, XD. God bless you.
@jarrodcarrigan3498
@jarrodcarrigan3498 4 ай бұрын
Mr. Jeff VEVOR has a lot to work on customer service wise last year I bought one of their extractors and I had no issues it was well built and an excellent asset to my business. I recommended it to a freind and theirs arrived damaged and VEVOR refused to give a full refund or even offer to replace it that is just sorry customer service if you could speak to your contact at VEVOR please inform them they really need to work on customer service they seem to highly value you opinion thanks God Bless Your brother in Christ, Jarrod
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 4 ай бұрын
So very sorry to hear of your friends issue with Vevor, and I will pass along your comment to my contact at Vevor. Thank you for your blessings and for watching. God's peace Jarrod. Mr. Ed
@9realitycheck9
@9realitycheck9 4 ай бұрын
Potentially the ports allow more moisture into the hive. That alone is a no-go for me.
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 4 ай бұрын
As the bees will close off any opening that will allow air to go where they don't want it to go, that is not an issue for me. However, as the bees will also cover the plexiglass over time, it seems to me a silly novelty, and I would much rather have the handle holes in the sides than the window. God's peace brother. Mr. Ed
@Tj-ot4jp
@Tj-ot4jp 4 ай бұрын
There is no way I would use a hive box that has been made out of bits, buy cheap buy twice. Also I've just looked on a UK website and they give a 12 month warranty, I have boxes that are 8yrs old.
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 4 ай бұрын
I'm with you on that, solid sides are less problematic. I have boxes that are over 12 years old....but only a few. Thanks for watching. God's peace brother. Mr. Ed
@Huntnlady7
@Huntnlady7 4 ай бұрын
I have one bottom box left from last century, but the base board needs to be removed- its plywood that is de-laminating. I will refurbish it with a solid board and it should last longer than I do!
@ericb8993
@ericb8993 4 ай бұрын
Does the inner cover have a secondary entrance? I've purchased a couple on Amazon that did not.
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 4 ай бұрын
It did not have a notch in the inner cover. Thanks for watching, and I hope you will check out more of my bee wrangling/ bee rescues adventures and let me know what you think of them. By the way, I post a new video every Friday morning, and I look forward to hearing from you again soon. God's peace Eric. Mr. Ed
@Huntnlady7
@Huntnlady7 4 ай бұрын
I saw two notches on the inner cover. Bad choice; there should be only one entrance
@apveening
@apveening 4 ай бұрын
Good review. But is this a Wednesday special or another accidental early release? I would love for it to be the former, in case of the latter I know I won't have to wear out the F5-button on Friday ;)
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 4 ай бұрын
This is just a special edition release, there will be the regular posting tomorrow so be ready. Thanks for watching. God's peace brother. Mr. Ed
@apveening
@apveening 4 ай бұрын
@@JeffHorchoff Thanks
@Joeybagofdonuts76
@Joeybagofdonuts76 4 ай бұрын
I watched a video by Fredrick Dunn. It had me wondering. Do you notice any jumping spiders around your hives?
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 4 ай бұрын
I really have not noticed the spiders, though I have seen a few when out working the bees, I see more lizards and roaches than anything else. I love watching Professor Fred's videos as well, he's such a interesting man and so full of knowledge. God's peace brother. Mr. Ed
@JulieRoss-q3q
@JulieRoss-q3q 4 ай бұрын
Here I am In Carmel Valley on my family property with my bees and chickens. I had a hive go down , no bees left in box one day . They left some dead brood on a few frames and some honey as well. I am wondering how messy it would be to spin out the honey in my extractor. Would the larva be extracted as well tho most is capped but some has just the small poked out start of the bee coming out. With the centripetal force of the extractor pull the lava out of those tiny holes in the capping? It’s about a six or eight sq or round inch area of honey on each frame. I’ve learned a lot from just the few videos I’ve watched on your channel, but I don’t know if you’ve done a video on this subject. I could sure use this honey.
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 4 ай бұрын
An extractor is a very helpful tool when processing honey, and by using one, the comb is only uncapped leaving the frame with all the wax on it. My opinion, I would use the extractor. However, if brood is still in the frame, make sure you do not uncap it or else it would be spun out in the honey. I hope it works for you. Thanks for watching. God's peace Julie. Mr. Ed
@rich3784
@rich3784 15 күн бұрын
How did you make out with the storm?
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 14 күн бұрын
We did just fine, and if you check out the video link below I give a few more details. Thank you for your concern and for watching. God's peace Rich. Mr. Ed kzbin.info/www/bejne/inO8Z6B-rbOlask
@richardmetryhoney
@richardmetryhoney 4 ай бұрын
no for that monet it should all be solid wood
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 4 ай бұрын
l would have to agree with you on that point. Thanks for watching, and I hope you will check out more of my bee wrangling/ bee rescues adventures and let me know what you think of them. By the way, I post a new video every Friday morning, and I look forward to hearing from you again soon. God's peace Richard. Mr. Ed
@johnadams1600
@johnadams1600 4 ай бұрын
why all beehive are made of wood ? is there any kind of plastic beehive ?
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 4 ай бұрын
Beehives are also made from polyethylene and plastic, both of which make fine bee hives. Thanks for watching, and I hope you will check out more of my bee wrangling/ bee rescues adventures and let me know what you think of them. By the way, I post a new video every Friday morning, and I look forward to hearing from you again soon. God's peace John. Mr. Ed
@MerleFunk-x9x
@MerleFunk-x9x 4 ай бұрын
What is the ratio of sugar and water
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 4 ай бұрын
I do not feed our bees, but when I have to feed bees that are taken from a removal, I feed them honey. Thanks for watching. God's peace Merle. Mr. Ed
@cheneysherry50
@cheneysherry50 4 ай бұрын
Are those coffins behind you i am as scared of them as roachs?😮
@jeanmichler2330
@jeanmichler2330 4 ай бұрын
Yep, they make coffins at the abby.
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 4 ай бұрын
Yes, they are caskets and I help build them as well as take care of the bees for the monks. The great news is there are NO roaches in the caskets. God's peace Sherry. Mr. Ed
@cheneysherry50
@cheneysherry50 4 ай бұрын
@@JeffHorchoff that's funny.
@WrenchHead
@WrenchHead 4 ай бұрын
​@JeffHorchoff have you made any caskets that look like beehives? 😂 ...ya know, for any beekeepers last rights.
@boomdagreatred4070
@boomdagreatred4070 4 ай бұрын
you hve rubber bands why didnt you use them
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 4 ай бұрын
I was implying the manufacture should use them when crating the package. In truth, it's no big deal. Thanks for watching, and I hope you will check out more of my bee wrangling/ bee rescues adventures and let me know what you think of them. By the way, I post a new video every Friday morning, and I look forward to hearing from you again soon. God's peace. Mr. Ed
@pigslayer275
@pigslayer275 4 ай бұрын
Should've called it the Beeginner's Beehive kit, missed opportunity....
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 4 ай бұрын
I sure wish I had thought of that, I love it! Thanks for watching, and I hope you will check out more of my bee wrangling/ bee rescues adventures and let me know what you think of them. By the way, I post a new video every Friday morning, and I look forward to hearing from you again soon. God's peace. Mr. Ed
@regiaquiarato7898
@regiaquiarato7898 2 ай бұрын
👍🏻🐝🇧🇷
@beesintheweeds
@beesintheweeds 3 ай бұрын
Hey Jeff! Nice video my friend. Vevor sent me the exact same kit to review recently. As with everything, I thought it had some pros and cons. I do appreciate the wood and heavy wax coating. My review can be found here if you are interested. kzbin.info/www/bejne/haCtpnejrrqrkNUsi=YQiF-Y2bHGkEiRvl Also, I can’t tell from your video but I don’t think you removed the protective film that coats the plexiglass. It should be on both sides and I had to use a box cutter to get it started to peal off. The windows are MUCH more clear and viewable after removing. Cheers and God Bless!
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 3 ай бұрын
I did forget to remove the covering initially, but did so afterwards. Not a bad product and for budget minded beekeepers a serious contender. Great job on the review as well. Thanks for watching. God's peace brother. Mr. Ed
@raystevens687
@raystevens687 4 ай бұрын
Well that bottom wood 🪵 looks alike pallet wood 🪵 to me.
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 4 ай бұрын
Definitely not top quality, but with a bargain price it's very possible to not get quality. God's peace Ray. Mr. Ed
@brettellis1837
@brettellis1837 4 ай бұрын
Nice.😂
@davidmorrisii69
@davidmorrisii69 4 ай бұрын
Mr Ed, is at it again, spreading happiness, lol!.. love ❤️ ya!.
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 4 ай бұрын
Thank you David for your kind words and for taking the time to watch the video. And remember, every Friday I post a little bit more happiness. God's peace brother. Mr. Ed
@davidmorrisii69
@davidmorrisii69 4 ай бұрын
@JeffHorchoff ❤️ ya, I need all the happiness, I can get, I been sad for a long time ⌛️!.
@tarheelbeekeeper3971
@tarheelbeekeeper3971 4 ай бұрын
I believe in the saying you get what you pay for, wax coating isn’t going to hold up the same as wax dipped, and I agree one piece construction in the panels would be better
@timothymitchell8310
@timothymitchell8310 4 ай бұрын
Hey Jeff you should show vids of bees in those hives . It would also show if the weather affects the boxes as you’ve suggested. Venting a viewing window doesn’t make sense if the fill them with propolis
@JeffHorchoff
@JeffHorchoff 4 ай бұрын
I'm really not interested in promoting the Vevor hives as there are issues that still need addressing. Still, for the cost conscience minded person, they are an option and that is the reason I made the video. Thanks for watching, and I hope you will check out more of my bee wrangling/ bee rescues adventures and let me know what you think of them. By the way, I post a new video every Friday morning, and I look forward to hearing from you again soon. God's peace Timothy. Mr. Ed
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