The Mystery of the 2022 Orbea Occam LT

[@masonjohnson5583]

I have the 140 occam, perfect for Minnesota keeps the boring terrain interesting and can handle the double black at Duluth. I have also found this bike is amazing for manuals on trail. It’s a lot of fun to see you make a review with my same bike and a very similar riding style.

[@stinthedude]

140/130 serves me well in Duluth aswell 🤙 eats up everything at spirit though the dh rig is much smoother lol

[@cryx4]

I agree! My 2020 occam makes rides so interesting. Personally, i much prefer its agile, poppy nature over a big monster truck of a bike.

[@mnmtb1469]

I’m in the lower part of MN and I ride an xl but if find it a little slow turning on super tight spots.

[@grasslandsgarage5779]

I'm in MN as well and looking to go up a bit from my SantaCruz Tallboy. I have been riding in Duluth and other spots around here and the Tallboy just gets a bit harsh on rougher stuff that seems to be happening more and more often. How do you guys/gals feel about the LT version of the Occam for mainly MN and trips out to the SW?

[@elnoziya]

Thanks for the video. I ended up buying an Occam 2020 after your reviews, and obviously testing it myself, lol. I love that you provide a general comparison against other bikes and a general overview on quality. We do not have chance to test material as you do, getting that feeling from people like you will help us. If the bike is playful or similar, it is not that important, I cannot even manual in a bmx. How confortable it rides in even, uphill and downhill, performance of the frame, stock wheels and tyres for example, thats very important for a buyer

[@jensonusabicycles]

Glad you enjoyed the new Occam! We haven't had the chance to ride it yet, but our guess at its ride characteristics look to match up with your review. Orbea just made the quintessential trail bike even better. Can't wait to see your thought on the Rallon!

[@JeffKendallWeed]

Thanks! It's been a blast! I haven't even gotten into trying different spring rates and my own parts, either! Though I might have to park the Occam for a bit and just focus on the Rallon, that thing should work great on the more bike park style trails that are closer to home for me!

[@dundundata7603]

@@JeffKendallWeed new Rallon looks pretty rad

[@dzkilnd]

Send Jeff an Evil! The Following for me, but something else suitable for Jeff.

[@jensonusabicycles]

@@dzkilnd Jeff's got an Evil Offering in his lineup currently and has been putting it through its paces. He has several videos that cover his impressions on that bike. Cheers!

[@grasslandsgarage5779]

@@dzkilnd He's got a good review of the Offering :)

[@17even]

Grabbed my H20 LT (150/150) from Jenson (thanks Scott) in preparation for the 2024 season. The thing is a beauty. Im in the Midwest so I don't believe ill need an enduro bike for the time being. Cant wait to take it out and see how it does.

[@dash0173]

"i dont think i had any sweet manuals today" he says as he shows a clip of him manualling for hundreds of feet lol

[@dhones23]

On a single track. On the side of a hill. Around a corner... But it wasn't sweet though, yeah.

[@JeffKendallWeed]

Well, there weren't any that were unusually challenging. Lots of "easy" ones in my book, but none that seemed noteworthy at the time!

[@dash0173]

@@JeffKendallWeed lol fair enough. i figured thats what you meant. just found it funny

[@th_js]

Why not use metric?

[@dash0173]

@@th_js huh?

[@charlesycoker]

I have been on a 2021 Occam with a Fox 150 for a year, such a killer bike! I have a 2022 on order but with a DPXII air rear shock. I do think the longer stroke shock might be a bit better for bigger guys. I would agree on the bike and handling, that is what makes it so awesome. Great for central Texas tight rocky and technical trails and I have taken it to Angel Fire doing DH, Sedona and Bentonville. If want a "capable" bike that is still a lot of fun and nimble check it out. I got mine from Wes at Velorangutan in Austin, he ships everywhere and orders his stock bikes in the custom colors... very cool and a great guy to work with.

[@gabrielmarias972]

Jeff you should test the new Rallon to compare it a bit on climbs descends...and with other enduro-trail contenders will be great

[@mtbeliever5833]

You make great vids bud. Keep them coming. Some of the best on YT

[@JeffKendallWeed]

Thanks so much, I appreciate that!!!

[@CornellHarris]

Orbea makes some gorgeous bikes. Sick riding and great review!.

[@JeffKendallWeed]

Thanks guys, I appreciate that!

[@peteo3436]

Amazing riding, trails and video. From here it looks like you are living the dream.

[@eliasdanieli5461]

Top notch riding and footage, as always

[@JeffKendallWeed]

Thank you Elias!

[@TheJones_AZ]

Pissed off squirrel at 12:32 ish - Great video and it looks likeyou had alot of fun!

[@ishamw2329]

Hope you ride the Rallon, I’m really interested in that bike! Best reviews and riding!

[@GoatRidesBikes]

I was absolutely in love with my 2016 Occam AM M-Ltd (140/140). Until the Seat Stay cracked. The biggest Orbea Fanboy in the midwest had to fight for 9 months to get it warrantied.

[@Mediarahan003]

They have basically refused to continue warranty support on those lately. Have had nothing but words with our rep for more than a year.

[@grasslandsgarage5779]

Follow up Review please!!! Excited to hear your thoughts after putting in some time on it. The rear coil and overall changes from going from the 140 travel bike to the LT. And I want to watch you do more amazing wheelies and amazing riding style.

[@thatonetexan1390]

Trying to pick my next bike, occam m10 LT, specialized stumpjumper expert, or Santa Cruz Hightower. I ride mostly in Texas with the occasional NWA trip.

[@dylandavies3628]

Hi Jeff, I’m in the process of buying the 2022 m10 lt and I’m interested in knowing if you ever did fit the rear shock offset bushing? Keep up the awesome videos. 👍👍

[@youtubeviewer9523]

About to test ride my new 1 of 20 steel HT!

[@godzillaxred]

i just love the way you ride holy shit i could watch a raw video of you just jumping, manual-ing and wheelie-ing all day

[@FredGreuillet]

Hi, beautiful bike, very hard to get, out of stock for France. How did you manage to get one? Otherwise, once again, great place. Thanks again for this video, See you soon. Fred

[@snbsmtb]

Sick video Dude😎😎🤘🤘

[@64Spokes]

Love the addition of the coil shock. Also I wish maxxis would spec the yellow letter tires on all oe applications

[@JeffKendallWeed]

I don't know if the stock spec for this bike is the yellow or white or what. But I definitely took off the EXO casing before ever riding the bike, I just don;t have time to be getting flats out on the trails! The coil worked better than I anticipated. Granted, I haven't ridden any jump/flow trails yet, but I generally much prefer air suspension to coil.

[@andreweccleston1839]

That is a lovely looking bike. Great video, as always!

[@JeffKendallWeed]

Thanks you Andrew, I appreciate that!

[@richardfox2555]

Hey Jeff, looks like a great wee bike. I thought I'd seen you throw a bike around like that previously, and checked the geo of the HD3 against the Occam. Pretty much welcome back to the future stuff! 150mm travel bikes were always almost the perfect mix of capable fun. :)

[@Bench_mark_113]

Would love your thoughts on coil rear shock. I am coming away from a sb130 lr, I loved that bike, but for long 5-hour rides it felt exhausting, and I want something that I don't have to charge so hard. I am debating b/t the new Float X or the new DHX. I have never ridden a coil, but hear a lot of good things. I ride most northern and southern utah, and prefer steep/tight natural alpine trails.

[@benstep2]

I’m with you. I have an sb100. The longer rides are getting to me. I am also getting some age on me. I am wishing my bike was more small bump compliant and have heard a coil shock would help. I lived and road UTah trails for several years. But now am back in eastern SC. My trails are rooty and rocky sort of Pisgah narl and I find the trails are wearing me out on my firm yeti suspension.

[@ericsharp5079]

Got a buddy looking for a new bike, defiantly gonna have him look at that bike.

[@Yoda-em5mt]

So cool that i'm not the only mtb er that loves moto single track , these trails look so sweet , wheelie ing the moto whoops is so fun aggreed 😁😁

[@edwardsaunders1892]

Hi there thinking about getting the occam lt and was just wondering what size you got and how tall you are, I'm 6ft 1 so would either get a large or and XL but the jump in reach is pretty big. would really appreciate if you got back to me. Thanks, Edward

[@JeffKendallWeed]

Hey Ed, I’m sorry but I don’t have tons of experience with Orbea sizing. That said, I’d probably think the XL would be safer. While it’s bigger than bikes from 10 years ago, it’s still a pretty short bike compared to the modern enduro/trail bikes out there. For only natural, tighter tech trails, the L would be great. The XL would still be pretty nimble, but more stable on anything scary. Hope that helps!

[@edwardsaunders1892]

@@JeffKendallWeed thanks for responding that really helps me out this bike looks so sick

[@gaborpolz3727]

Hi Ed, did you buy the Occam? If yes what size did you choose and how do you fill it? I'm the same high as you and my inseam is 36.3". I tried both and I found the L to be too small for me. The XL is more comtable for me but it is huge.

[@edwardsaunders1892]

@@gaborpolz3727 hi there , I didn't end up buying the occam, ended up going with a norco sight, as the geometry numbers suited my riding style more, got it an xl

[@zoomzoomgt]

Any difference between the orbea h30 2022 vs the 2024 model? What has changed between the 2? Since on paper looks like the same spec. Unless they changed the geo?? Right now i found a 2022 new for about $2100 Canadian. If its literally the same bike than ill get it (just different colours for yr change). Also looking at the kona process 134 and specialized stumpjumper comp alloy. They all roughly the same price. Spec n best $ buck what would you choose and why

[@theshonen8899]

Jeff, I love your videos! But the audio cutting between your voice over and your ride footage is super jarring haha 8:50

[@JeffKendallWeed]

Thanks for the tip! What sort of speakers/headphones are you using? Let me know, that's a key detail as the sound changes drastically between my studio monitors, my van's speakers, my airpods, my lap top, etc.

[@theshonen8899]

@@JeffKendallWeed I'm using desktop speakers but I'm talking more about how you're talking on the voiceover and suddenly there's you talking on the trail in between, like you're interrupting yourself mid-conversation.

[@raduplesea6150]

What size is your handlebar? Thx

[@rabrumf]

For my local trails and style of riding a mid travel bike without the super raked-out dimensions of really slack bikes, works best for me. 150mm that can climb and decend = perfect!

[@cs.adventures]

Deciding between orbea occam, ibis ripmo, and canyon spectral 29. Want to use for mostly trail but be able to hit some jumps as well. Do you have any thoughts?

[@oceangrownkae]

I really enjoyed watching you RIDE❣️❣️ Also LOVE that Sage-SeaFoam Green color on the Occam. It’s a beauty! Edit ✍🏼: Wow 🤩 those S-Turns on day three’s trail were exceptionally enjoyable 👀 ❣️❣️ I 👍🏼 sub’d 💓

[@rlopez9044]

I have the 2021 model and I’ll keep it for ever, great bike!! Anyone knows where are those trails located?

[@ClaytonMSmithson]

I'm getting a MRP Hazzard shock for my Occam and was wondering what your thoughts are about running a progressive coil instead of linear?

[@xav_1029]

Sounds like a really good east coast bike.

[@dundundata7603]

Enjoying my '21 Occam with Fox36/150.

[@aaron.rubinstein]

Can you share any info about the trails you were riding? Especially day 1. Looks amazing.

[@JeffKendallWeed]

I am no longer publishing specific trail beta, sorry Aaron! Everything shown here is public and legal, and can be found on Trailforks. I usually look for rides that have low ratings and a lot of elevation, it usually works ok!

[@PedalingDave]

Without knowing the actual geo, the way you describe it makes me feel like it has some similarities to my Trek Remedy. 150mm travel but not so long nor slack. The Occam style of trail bike is the kind of bike I always hope to have in my quiver.

[@ostankovalex1176]

Remedy is great, can be easily upgraded to 170/160 and to have some slacker angles

[@JustinMayfield]

Hey, that's my tire combo too! Woohoo!

[@scottbatten1937]

I have a 2020 they are very fun bikes to ride I come from the BMX industry an this bike is perfect for my style an would race this in any enduro race….

[@vindeta360]

Looks like a fun bike!!

[@directgrover]

Wheelies for days mate! Well done!

[@non_clemente]

This is the category of bike which i imagine complements your riding, wonder how you'd asses the Transition Scout?

[@randyatwork4647]

Where did you do these rides? Can you add them in this episode's info? Thanks!

[@seanthompson5589]

Can you review the rallon?

[@TheJjyoung333]

What size did you ride? At 5'9.5" 31.75" inseam, I'm questioning medium or large occam LT. Thanks

[@philipkelsey840]

I'm 5'10" on a 2017 Large and definitely wouldn't want to be on a Medium. I don't think the geo has changed too much. I reckon you'd be good on the Large.

[@jsobol12]

I’m 5’9 and question the same thing…. I am leaning towards a Sz large….. I hear they are sized a bit smaller than most frames.. hmmm 🤔

[@MarkoStele]

I'm 5'9.5 31.70" inseam and I'm driving 2020 occam LTD SIZE S looking perfect fit for me

[@Chuckolicious]

What's it weigh in at?

[@TheMTBRider96]

how do you compare it with the Offering V2?

[@mamachihaoui534]

How much does heures weight

[@kwilson4880]

Man this looks like a fun bike, might need one now

[@JeffKendallWeed]

It's totally fun! For the right locale, it's an absolutely rad bike.

[@insanebmxthomas]

Jeff, what happened to WTB tires on your bikes? I have a 180mm Canyon Torque and crazy like i am, i'm looking for tires that can run higher pressures and take a beating; i want to do some urban freeride and would prefer tires with low rolling resistance that won't blow up on impact due to higher pressures.

[@hotmale1971]

can you review a Zerode Katipo with a belt drive. I'll like to get a PNW review about a gearbox and a belt drive system. Thank you. ;)

[@Biking_with_Akiva]

After watching a few of your videos I’m convinced you can ride a Unicycle downhill 🤙🏾 fantastic video and riding Jeff

[@timkirkpatrick1519]

Hi, what size is the frame?

[@davidh585]

Random question - do you still have the LT on hand? I'm trying to find out the shock tune code on the DHX2.

[@V.Philly]

Would love to see you ride a Mondraker Jeff

[@Jurrb_]

This is gonna be a fun vid

[@JeffKendallWeed]

Thanks Rodian, enjoy!

[@nagval7592]

Какой размер рамы был? Мedium?

[@kazenokami5133]

Man I would love to ride there 🍂

[@smurfgudrun]

Great review thanks! I am trying to find a "do it all reasonbly well" -bike and finally trying to choose between the Ripley AF Deore build (4200USD locally Sweden) or Orbea Occam H30(2850USD locally - the budget alt.) or Occam H10 (4200USD locally). I mostly ride natural quite flat singletrack locally and like technical (not very downhill focused) riding. But I also take trips to the mountains with long days in the saddle and would like to try some local XC/Gravel amatuer races for fun with ligther tyres. I fully understand no bike is ideal for all of this but which one, also considering the Swedish pricing, would you recoomend? Very thankful for your feedback! Love your channel.

[@ryanmiskin]

I immediately recognized the macride spacer.

[@bimmerfan729]

So is anything really different from the previous occam you rode? Could you slap say a 160 fork on the previous gen and a longer stroke shock to make this new one? Future project bike......?

[@JeffKendallWeed]

Bobby, very little is different on this Occam than the other one I rode. Just the linkage and shock. A few others have asked about the 160 fork- I am guessing but I would think the bike was built around a 140 fork for the most part, so I'd hesitate with a 160. I'll ask the orbea guys tho!

[@zsilet74]

Did a doubletake on your headset spacer... Both my bikes are "MacRide Ready". My kiddo doesn't want to ride anything else : ).

[@christofferosterberg5185]

How well does it climb? Bobbing a lot?

[@jack91522]

Do you feel rhe medium fits you well? Is this as confidence inspiring as the hd4?

[@JeffKendallWeed]

Hey Jackson, the medium is a tad small, but overall works fine. I'm 5'8". No, the HD4 is more confidence inspiring. It's slacker and longer feeling, and has much more progressive suspension. But the Occam is a lot easier and more efficient for flatter, chunkier, less bike park style terrain.

[@jack91522]

@@JeffKendallWeed The reason I asked is because the medium HD4 fit me well and I loved the bike. The small Rallon has the same geo eventhough their size chart puts me in a medium which sounds pretty big. The occam geo seems to be overall smaller and the medium might be perfect. Sizing is confusing. So I'm thinking since the medium HD4 fits me well, why shouldn't I just purchase a bike using the reach and stack numbers of the HD4 even if it puts me in a small or extra small?

[@stevenh766]

Has anyone ever told you that you look like Bill Allen? I like to think that you're simply Cru Jones living out the dream a few years after taking the win at Hell Track.

[@huntinfishinlovineveryday1424]

How does LT climb compared to previous 140 mm travel Occam?

[@JeffKendallWeed]

Same same. You’ll notice tire and wheel weight more than anything else.

[@etiennebenard8245]

Does it feel more capable than the last version? Sick content 👌

[@MasterBlaster69]

I love bikes that do not fit cleanly in to one category. They are the most fun!

[@JeffKendallWeed]

Hahaha often yes! But only if you know what you're signing up for!

[@joshmarks3954]

Still loving my ripmo Af.

[@iFlashCaotix]

Can someone tell me what MTB shoes do jeff use? 😀

[@kwic73]

I’ve been thinking about throwing a 160 36 on my 140 Occam to slacken it out a bit. Is this a good idea or too much fork for my bike?

[@DullBoyJack]

I really don't think adding 20mm is too much. It will raise the bottom bracket and slacken the seat tube a bit, but I think it's worth it. On top of that you can run more sag so that your ride height doesn't change that much, and the fork will be plusher too. Hell, I put a 120mm fork on my old hardtail that came with an 80mm (don't do that)

[@dundundata7603]

people have done it, I think it makes even more sense with the LT. I don't think its supported by orbea though

[@SourCrouter]

Test out the new rocky mtn element

[@RH-vp8gr]

I had an occam but the xl was too short for me being 6.3. It was a fantastic bike but it felt too tall at the front which made it feel short. Went for a ripmo in xl and fits me perfectly. Strange how numbers are similar between bikes but fit is a lot different. Orbea needs to drop a couple of cm off the head tube length I think to make it feel less tall.

[@dundundata7603]

i do have 150mm fork so it raises stack height even more. i put the stem below spacers and inverted the stem, and i night get bars with less rise. if doing more downhill higher bars might make more sense.

[@Montezuma0]

So slamming the stem didn’t make it fit better? I’m 6.4 so that’s concerning that it didn’t fit you well. Funny how the Ripmo has the exact same reach but fits you better just because of the lower stack?

[@willbros1499]

I'm thinking 160mm fork??? :-) Little longer wheelbase, .5 degree slacker, and maybe that would help the stability at speed a bit. I'm pretty sure the Occam has an integrated headset, but the new 9point8 angleset might be another option to get even another degree. At that point...I guess it turns into a wannabe enduro bike. I enjoyed riding the Occam as well, and I think it's a really good bike. It's definitely not as stable feeling at speed as the Ripmo. I didn't get the chance to take it on a long trail ride, but I would have liked to compare the pedal efficiency a bit more, because unless I felt considerably fresher at mile 15 or so, I wouldn't see a reason anyone would choose the Occam over the the Ripmo or Ripmo AF. To me, they felt very comparable in climbing, but the Ripmo is just a more capable bike, as you alluded to. Maybe it is a "more capable trail bike" with the extra travel, but in a way, that's sort of the spot where the Ripmo lands and what has made it a desirable bike for so many riders.

[@RACCHIETTO]

I was thinking about a 160mm fork as well, i wonder if the saddle position would be too slack for steep climbs, my current bike has a 73 degree STA, it's a hardtail but the fork is fully extended on steep climbs, when it gets above a 10% grade and it's rocky it starts to be very noticeable, i'd like the STA to be a bit steeper so i slide forward on the seat, but it's not ideal for me.

[@tomtricks6838]

awesome riding love the channel makes me so envious i wish i had the money to get riding a proper bike like that beauty😍

[@JeffKendallWeed]

Thanks Tom! Run what ya brung, and have a great time!

[@SamMose]

Interesting it came with yellow logod maxis tires 🤨

[@JeffKendallWeed]

Sam, I never even noticed! In too much of a hurry to get the EXO off and the DD on- the bike was dropped off at noon and I had to get my kid from school on it at 3pm that same day!

[@onlyfoolriding8223]

The most annoying part of watching these reviews: you can't even get your hands on anything for at least another 6-12 months. Fucking blows, man.

[@DullBoyJack]

Crazy how a bike with a 65.5 HTA could feel "not that slack"! I sort of wonder what it'd feel like with another degree...

[@JeffKendallWeed]

Well, that's measured with stock tires, I had a DHR II in back and the bike certainly felt steeper than my Ripley AF. But I think the overall set up works awesome in the right place- more natural trails in areas that arent crazy steep. I'm excited to get into dialing this thing in!

[@BBurton1231]

Would it be possible to add a headset that allows one to slacken the head angle another degree? Would that change the ride quality much?

[@DullBoyJack]

@@BBurton1231 yes, there are a bunch. I just put a Works Components 1.5° headset on my bike, which incidentally got it right to 65.5 too. Its more stable but definitely takes a bit more effort to get the bike to turn in now. Honestly I dont know if I'd do it on a brand new bike though. If you're gonna do that, might as well just get what you want out of the gate. It worked great for me though as my riding style has changed since I got the bike 4 years ago, and $80 is cheaper than a new bike!

[@marathonrunner715]

That bike is so sick but why is it so expensive? Our companies need to make their own parts in the United States and come up with ways to make really cool stuff faster and more efficiently. In short these companies really suck at making bikes and the prices reflects that

[@laurynasjagelo5075]

440 chainstays are not that *short*, especially for a Medium bike

[@JeffKendallWeed]

The short top tube makes the rear end feel a lot shorter. The first gen Ibis Ripley was like that, I believe they were 445 stays but the bike was *SO* easy to manual. The short top tube brings a lot of weight to the rear of the bike.

[@bimmerfan729]

The stock Occam seat is hands down the worst ever....😂

[@rpiian]

Jeff have you ridden the aluminium version of this? I’ve been curious how the carbon compares to the alloy in terms of ride quality (carbon sounds super stiff but is alloy too noodly?). Nice vids as always - cheers!

[@dundundata7603]

I've been on the alloy and it felt fine, hard to tell the difference between the carbon. My carbon occam doesn't feel too stiff, actually quite a plush with the suspension.

[@rpiian]

@@dundundata7603 Right on - appreciate the comments!

[@adlar2005]

Let's keep it simple - Orbea or Ibis?

[@blacksheepmtb6533]

How is everyone just pretending you aren't using WTB tires anymore??

[@JeffKendallWeed]

Ah I still have WTB tires on my Offering! And will continue to ride them mixed in with some other brands. I want to do a proper tire comparison, so I need more breadth of experience with Maxxis and Schwalbe first. Stay tuned!

[@MertanantaChannel]

Nice Brother, greetings 2 pedals, Mertananta's KZbin Channel is also absent, Brother 🤘

[@JeffKendallWeed]

Howdy Mertananta!

[@sladasafari]

This is not the orbea occam h20lt , this is a 10k occam

[@lagwall]

You pedal in a wheelie, you coast through a manual

[@kapnobataii]

Hey jeff, it's a BIcycle, not a UNIcycle bruh. you don't have to ride on one wheel all the time :)

[@diltd3989]

love the guy, dont like how his mouth looks when he talks.

[@HeadCase55]

Glad I'm not the only one thinking that lol

[@mtbboy1993]

Hambini makes Orbea not seem so enticing. He has mentioned Orbea few times as being bad. from a quality, tolerance standpoint.

[@Sunshine-wn5ev]

Nervous over 30mph lmao. Yea most won’t see those speeds

[@durace99]

Why play with that ocaam. ? Get a Rallon