Illusions of Time - Secrets to Playing Over the Barline

[@patrickcarroll1754]

Please don't stop making these lessons, Jeff. You're terrific.

[@ahchv]

The finger counting exercise was great. Thank you!

[@TheDesertRat31]

another great video Jeff. Another benefit "hidden" in the lesson on time is a lesson on simplicity and how an easy reapplication of a simple concept can create the illusion of greater complexity. 4/4 time=easy, 3/4 time =easy, diatonic triads =easy, mash it together = sound super hip.... 😎

[@JeffSchneiderMusic]

Great comment, Bob. Thanks!

[@GT-fx8fd]

Great lesson and teaching mate.

[@russnalgillam1279]

Thanks Great examples of this phasing on Stephane Grapelli's solo in Minor Swing (1937), Django Reinhardt's solo in Some of These Days (1935) and Louis Armstrong's solo in When You're Smiling (1929) It might be fun to try to pick them out 🙂

[@gjtube37]

Great lesson and as always very well explained.

[@brianbjur4796]

If you're looking for a cool example of polymeter there's a Porcupine Tree song called "What Happens Now" where there's a section of 7 over 5 over 3, which ends up resolving to 6/8

[@tobbebergman7583]

Great upload Jeff

[@JeffSchneiderMusic]

Thanks!

[@drummerpablo1]

this sounds like it was hard to teach, and you did a great job

[@ThePhunkyPharaoh]

Jeff, could you possibly make a video about developing a good solo arch? I am having trouble with telling a story in my solos and haven't seen a video made by you that covers this important aspect of improvisation. Your explanations are the only thing that help me understand XD

[@cjthechill]

i understood it right away i love that i know rhythm this well lol

[@Nikdrengen1]

Very inspiring, thanks!

[@staror890]

Such material for practice . Great :)

[@alansmollen]

A simple concept, Show the relationship visual of four measures of 3/4 on top of three measures of 4/4. I love hearing theory- music is science as well as art Your speaking speed is almost up to celibrial speed. You are a knowledgeable one! Just, calm down, explain it simple.( I love what your doing)

[@Gnurklesquimp]

I really like what Deamau6 did in 71c, stuff like this works so damn well in progressive.

[@LukeZuniga]

Looks like you just explained metric modulation!

[@samuelokure5686]

I love this

[@JeffSchneiderMusic]

Thanks so much!

[@HollyFayHolverson777]

Great video. It'd be nice if there was more examples of HOW to practice implementing this concept which would help internalize it. I play with a group that LOVES to do this and it's a real challenge NOT lose where beat "one" is at all times.y If anyone has constructive, potentially USEFUL suggestions for practice, I'd really appreciate your feedback. The more specific, the better. Thanks

[@endrebjorgo409]

Discovering your channel has really gotten me into music again, and I'm now considering getting a saxophone. Do you have any suggestions for a beginner sax? Thank you for doing these videos!

[@radekczech6934]

endrebjorgo if you want a starting point for alto look for a yamaha YAS-23 or 26, you can snag one on ebay for 300-500 dollars, as for a good beginner mouthpiece I would look for a meyer 6m or an otto link for jazz.

[@alexisespinoza1290]

Hemiolas are great to play.

[@eRsolja]

dope!

[@cotidiano3941]

hello beautifull video,saludos from spain! can you make a video about how to make nice,cool tensions(i dont know if these word exist in english)or nice disonances saludos keep it rooling :)

[@JayMelloProductions]

When you unconsciously do this so to get a formal understanding gives you so much reinforcement...

[@SungazerDNB]

Thank you!

[@kingblinn]

Well explained but why did you never refer to it by the name polymeter? It could help people to learn more if they know about its use in other music.

[@nathanaelsco479]

Hi, Your link to mouthpiece is obsolete (what's your mouthpiece?)

[@ThomAvella]

I'm fairly certain he rocks a Pillinger NYA.

[@haywoodgiles713]

How bout simplifying the feel with quarter notes (123) (412) (341) (234) --- 1 (while maintaining the shape of the line)! This is how I introduce my students to the concept. Count aloud - 1234. Like normal. Then count aloud every other beat. First on 1&3. Then on 2&4. Then every third beat - (1--4--3--2--1...). The add finger snapping on 2&4.

[@slimyelow]

ONE! two three FOUR! one two THREE! four one TWO! three four ----- ONE!...FOUR!...THREE!...TWO!...ONE!...

[@monkface]

Displacement seems to be the word!

[@666gugi666]

Meshuggah. They are the masters of that. Check out their song "I am colossus" and see if you can find the beat and stay with it. Follow the hi-hat click (on 1,2,3,4, it's very quiet) and the snare (on 3)- so it's just basic 4/4 with the guitars and the bass drum played in triplets grouped between 4 and 2 notes, so the triplets give an illusion of being regular 16th notes, but they aren't, so don't believe them bitches. And on top of that the entire groove is heavily syncopated with simple, but odd groupings playing over the 4/4 bar, so It's basically a total mindfuck, eventhough it totally doesn't sound like that. It's genious and groovier beyond groovy.

[@opinionatorX]

Nice Dee Bops Bro!

[@SungazerDNB]

Please simplify and re explain, I feel dumb. I almost got it though, the beginning is there (and I logically understand it, it's just not clear)

[@Spimp4]

look up hemiola

[@WarrenHenry]

4/4 : / / / / | / / / / | / / / / | / / / / | from measure 1 group each of these fwd slashes in 3. You will have to group over the barline 3x before you get back to beat 1 in measure 4. Hope that helps

[@carsondrum]

isnt this just a hemiola? seems like its being over complicated a lil

[@MarcKellerSax]

There is a difference though. You can play a hemiola in 4/4 without screwing with the metric stress, but if you impose that 3/4 feeling over your 4/4, you get accents on different beats than usual.

[@carsondrum]

DerBoarder metric modulation is what I should've said

[@Spimp4]

I agree. The terms I'd use for this whole vid would be hemiola and metric modulation, and a combination of the two. Although these are avenues to achieve playing over the bar. He does however say it's part of a series of vids he's done concerning this topic.

[@JeffSchneiderMusic]

Yes, hemiola and metric modulation both describe what's going on here.

[@slimyelow]

not a hemiola, it's a sephora!

[@kidprodigio1118]

Man, that intro thoo

[@cameronjames3028]

ah yes, hemiolas, what a great invention

[@roublechoudhary1826]

tempo is not changing

[@wilky1189]

It's not "wrong", it's "jazz"....

[@slimyelow]

and jazz = jizz

[@tobbebergman7583]

1 Person have no rhythm !