Jeju Air crash: Most of 181 people onboard feared dead in South Korea's Muan

[@rekker2688]

Tragic, no matter what caused the incident. May all the lost souls Rest in peace. 💔

[@newsbandi2002]

Still counting 61

[@rekker2688]

@@newsbandi2002 179 of 181 souls perished. Only 2 reported survivors

[@bobafett5757]

@@newsbandi2002 Counting until when ?

[@barrygriffiths139]

So so tragic all those poor souls ,WHY

[@bobafett5757]

@@rekker2688 Its accident not incident

[@marks6663]

It did not "veer off the runway". It was on the runway. The only runway in the world that has a wall at the end.

[@petesmith9472]

Depends which direction they were landing….rwy 170 has buildings and a beach at 250m beyond the centreline

[@jo2832]

If you actually look at Muan Intl Airport on Google, you will see a wall at the end of runway 01 because there is a road at the end of the runway, and slightly further down the runway are hotels, the wall was there so a plane dosent wipe out a dozen cars and possibly run into the hotels, though I doubt it would reach the hotels. EDIT: the other side of the runway runway 16 also has a wall, this side faces what looks to be a construction site owned by the runway, I'm not sure but this wall also looks shorter then the one on runway 01.

[@miguelgarzon6475]

I have to agree. A lot of questions about this particular 'incident' especially since they've been trying so hard to scare people from flying.

[@KainsAddiction]

It DEFINITELY veered off to the right due to virtually no directional control at slow speeds with no landing gear. I swear if you dont know sh t about the industry dont post.

[@Delver639]

Not the only one with a wall at the end, no, unfortunately. Many airports and airfields are surrounded by city buildings these days. However, the aircraft was way way very fast during the emergency landing. On that speed they would need 3 full runways to stop completely.

That was no bird strike. Flaps were not extended, which indicates loss of hydraulic flight surface controls. Something far more serious than a bird strike occurred here. Edit: Some great comments have suggested that there was indeed a bird strike, thank you for adding that information. But it's still a mystery as to why we don't see flaps or gear. Watching the video in slow motion, it also appears that at least one thrust reverser failed to deploy and the other may not have fully deployed. I looked at Flight Radar 24, and the last reported airspeed shows at 154knotts. From what little I understand, that low a speed shouldn't be possible without flaps; so the flaps might have been retracted for TOGA at the last minute. It looks like an emergency occurred in the last segment of the flight which caused the workload on the flight deck to increase dramatically and quickly. The pilots may not have had time to react appropriately. Thank you so much to all the wonderful commentors who added the latest information.

[@edwardrichardson5567]

If It's a Boeing, they still have mechanical back-up system in the event of total hydraulics loss...

[@20891]

What makes you expert

[@blaa1459]

@@20891you don’t need to be an expert to know that

[@TheJeffatan]

Why land on such a short runway? Surely divert to a longer runway??

[@edwinchong]

those flaps can be operated electronically

[@ronaldchristenkkson]

"We apologise for the concern caused." Understatement of this century.

[@tocreatee5736]

what about 181 people?

[@bobdebouwer7835]

They are Koreans. Not westerners who sue for 3 million when the flight attendant spilled coffee.

[@hollyk-0077]

Right, you say that when you accidentally bump into someone while walking.

[@cathymarshall7064]

I am so sorry this happened. I pray for all and families.

[@honor9lite1337]

,🙏🙏🙏

[@lovegrace5466]

The nose gear was still up. Couldn't see the main landing gear. I supposed it was ok. It looked like the plane has difficulty of stopping the plane and reached the end of runway.

[@jigsaw2253]

Why are you apologizing nerd?

[@d1want34]

a brickwall at the end of the runway, crazy

[@Meditationmusic-wf9xi]

And 2024 not over crazy

[@suzyfarnham3165]

It was a earth bank wasn't it? Many airports have them.

[@mr.gorillaz8449]

every pilot that ever flew there must have thought that was a bad idea

[@ronaldphoong]

The landing was quite smooth until it hit the wall. Normally, it's a net barrier. What's a wall doing at the end of a runway?

[@ramprabath7352]

Automatic open close system should be there on wall?

[@mindful47]

I believe pilots will always do their best . Some things are just beyond control. God bless.

[@mr.gorillaz8449]

building a giant wall at an airport in the middle of farmland is not beyond control

[@candisham1978]

@@mr.gorillaz8449the wall isn’t the issue, clearly it was the landing gear. Had there not been a wall, do you know how long it still would have taken for this aircraft to come to a stop as fast as it was going? At that speed and instability, any little thing it touched would have turned the aircraft into a spinning nightmare and likely would have broken apart in a fiery spectacle, no wall needed.

[@Alex-oe6ww]

@@candisham1978 Very valid point, wall or no wall the plane would have likely broken up. A quick check on google maps there is only 997m of land until it hits water, there are embankments, guard rails, poles and a 3 star hotel that could have been struck. I think it's also fair to point out that with no embankment - there may have been a chance that more than 2 passengers survived - as the embankment literally flattened the fuselage from cockpit to the tail.

[@georgehill3087]

@@candisham1978 Look at the map, there's plenty of grass field to any plane to slide to a stop. Yes, the aircraft could still tumble and explode, but it also may not. That reinforced concrete wall took away any possibility of it coming to a stop safely.

[@4x4r974]

@@candisham1978 its against international regulations to have structures and equipment that is not frangible. in this case everyone was alive when the plane crash landed. unfortunately the reinforced concrete wall made all the difference here ..

[@6346n]

Why is there an earthen embankment at the end of the runway? That is an unacceptable landing hazard. If that embankment was not there there probably would not have been ANY loss of life. I've seen this kind of crap before. This is how an airport itself kills people!! The airport itself should be held liable for the deaths. There is no way this incident should have been fatal!! Outrageous!

[@rcinthesky]

sure buddy... lets make sure EVERY runway is 10 miles long just in case.... something will always happen somewhere...

[@djibicisse]

@@rcintheskyway too short for emergency landing

[@diogobotelho5141]

I was wondering the same but I read that the dirt wall is there to protect residences

[@peterkoh5632]

find out the facts first before jumping to conclusions or let your emotions get the better of you.

[@dolparimoonform]

it’s a localizer installation mound.

[@JoaoSantos-np9ii]

The wall at the end of the runway is beyond me.

[@mr.gorillaz8449]

the wall is to make sure no unwanted visitors get into the airport :)

[@290revolver290]

Exactly, the wall makes no sense.

[@ricky_pigeon]

Its to stop birds.

[@JoaoSantos-np9ii]

And is very effective stopping planes apparently.

[@mark11967AD]

Landing on that particular runway with all that fuel makes no sense. Perhaps the pilots were unaware of the gear failure until it was too late and had tried a touch and go take off.. ? Horrific ending. So sorry for those poor passengers and their families left behind.

[@jonjohnson2844]

They knew the gear hadn't lowered, this was their second attempt at landing, 737s have successfully landed on their belly before, but the fact they hit the ground a few hundred metres from a wall doesn't make much sense, heartbreaking.

[@LOLONO666]

This is the reason why airlines don't carry a full gas tank

[@Sksk183m18]

The hydraulic system failed due to a bird strike, preventing the landing gear from being deployed. The first landing attempt failed, and during the second attempt, the aircraft could not reduce speed, leading to a crash.

[@bennymt07]

@@Sksk183m18 737's have a manual gear extension feature. Small door on the floor near the FO's seat. The gear gravity extend when the levers are pulled. Incase of an emergency where hydraulic power is lost, that is the option.

[@Lumpia_In_Texas]

@@LOLONO666 nah, they dont carry a full tank to save weight and money... all about money

[@leokimvideo]

Looks like a crew in panic to land after a engine and hydraulic system malfunction, landing gear was not extended in time, possibly an attempt to go around considering the massive speed of the aircraft just prior to impact. No flaps extended. The cockpit voice recording of this crash is going to be very interesting

[@nurulcanada8664]

I am very sorry and praying for all the families 😭😭

[@jessicaregina1956]

@@nurulcanada8664 i am very not sorry and preying for all the families.

[@dalefutrelle1441]

Why the heck would you build a wall at the end of a runway??? That's fricken stupid.

[@20891]

It’s off the runway ; listen carefully

[@20891]

It’s off the runway ; listen carefully

[@pondeify]

@@20891 not a good idea to have a brick wall anyway near runways

[@jo2832]

*Ik copy-paste, but this is actual useful information.* If you actually look at Muan Intl Airport, you will see a wall at the end of runway 01 because there is a road directly at the end of the runway, and slightly further down the runway are hotels, the wall was there so a plane dosent wipe out a dozen cars and possibly run into the hotels, though I doubt it would reach the hotels unless it was slightly hovering above ground.

[@ag3957]

Does look off, looks on runway, then runway runs out, into wall.

[@paulramos1513]

The wall destroyed the entire airplane. Sadly

[@hermanprez]

Who puts the localizer on a wall at the end of the runway?

[@MrHoodlum420]

I don’t know crap about runways, but why is there a wall at the end of the runway?! Usually it’s just a chain-link fence. The wall is what killed everyone otherwise that pilot did a great belly landing.

[@thinhnguyen-fn8zi]

why is there a wall at runways?

[@greysonklenk5378]

The wall is to protect people and buildings from planes overshooting runeays

[@Belleza139]

안녕하세요 저는 한국인 입니다. 현제 승무원 2명을 제외한 모든 기장과 승무원을 포함한 탑승객은 전원 사망하였습니다 179명 사망 2명 생존 입니다…이 끔찍한 사고로 사랑하는 사람을 잃은 가족과 친구들에게 깊은 애도를 표합니다🙏🏻😭

[@user-hn7ys8ub8e]

隣国から、この悲惨で衝撃的なニュースを知り、とても驚きました。 亡くなった方々のご冥福、遺族の方々の1日でも早い心の回復と、早急な原因究明と再発防止によって韓国の方々が再び安心して飛行機を利用できるようになる日が来ることを願っています。

[@TheFishingNomad]

What's crazy is that it landed perfectly given whatever scenario caused its landing gear to malfunction. Pilots brought that thing to the ground perfectly. The real question is why was the runway not longer and/or why did they choose to land on a runway that short?

[@janinsweden8559]

2800 m Runway, but landed when just 500 m remained !!!!

[@uchwuzhere]

@@janinsweden8559 I agree. It looks like they landed late

[@gottagowork]

Runway 01/19 Dimensions: 9186 x 148 feet / 2800 x 45 meters How is that "short"? Also, landing was not a "choice", it was a forced after the initial go-around, due to fire/fumes in the cabin (assuming the rumors are correct). Given no flaps, spoilers, or gear, they also came in very hot and probably landed long, which didn't help any.

[@pwpw8822]

Report said Air Traffic Controller commanded them to switch the runway. Their 1st attempt to land on Runway no.1 was called off by ATC for fear of bird strike, and they demanded the pilot to land on the opposite runway, the no.19.

[@elhan12hassan63]

No landed perfectly, landed with retracted langing gears, there are 3 ways to slow down the aircraft: first using the brakes on the wheel of the landing gears, second using the spoilers, a panels that are instaled on the wings helps to reduce the speed and tge third the thrust reversers: blocker doors on the engines reversing the flow of thrust to mainly slow down the aircraft exactly after touching the ground. Now all the mechanisms work with hydraulic, the question is, was all the hydraulic systems defective, knowing that there is at least 3 hydraulic system performing the aircraft movements, was all of them failed!!?????

[@rhysezfpv]

"Jeju flight 7C2216 you are clear for emergency landing on the runway with the wall at the end " Roger !

[@stepe416]

Yea tell me about.🤔

[@Magyar9Andras]

It's not a wall, it's an embankment for approach lights...the wall which surrounds the airport is way behind it and would have caused maybe less damage according to it's material and thickness

[@DJeimaXe]

7C2216, *It seems planned because the pilots had turned off the live flight recording tracker too early before landing* from my flight radar. It was foul play, because of all incidents has learned by the time of the year 2018, has updated to all aircrafts to no longer to have accidents anymore after that year for commercial Aviation.

[@rhysezfpv]

@@Magyar9Andras Call it what you want to call it. Why the hell did the tower tell that plane to land on a runway with something at the end off the runway that will damage and make the plane blow up when they knew landing gears are up..? Only thing I could think off is that they were in final approach when something went bad.

[@rhysezfpv]

@@Magyar9Andras BY the way. It is a WALL. I just saw another report and the pilots reviewing the video said. The wall being at the end of that runway is criminal and dangerous. KZbin " Analysis: South Korea airport design was 'unbelievably awful' " and watch it yourself.

[@tokdinclan3778]

All the media are parroting that the script that the plane "veered off the runaway" when the visual clearly indicated the jet plane was attempting to land without its landing gear deployed. CNA just getting worst!

[@jamescole3152]

Well unless they put that wall on the runway... No landing gear it still would have been ok. The brick wall on a runway is not a great plan for safety.

[@F3arlessWarriorMindset]

Wow you’re an aviation expert 😂. FFS stop watching media then and watch your own news reports 😂

[@fhqwhgads6]

they literally said "landing gear failure" in the video bruh, listen carefully

[@TimLoo-w4u]

Then what...... Complain to Donald trump 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@카일마진]

it did veer off the runway and into the wall due to the faulty landing gear tho 🙄

[@Lucklyulie]

Praying for all the families in this incident

[@jessicaregina1956]

Praying for BTS.

[@shadowblade232]

Man it's been a rough month for South Korea 😢

[@A_dzure]

How

[@hobisu]

@@A_dzurethe whole thing about the president’s impeachment after calling martial law… yea things aren’t looking too good rn😢

[@arifjay_98]

@@hobisuwhat martial law

[@CRISPYBADBOI]

Bird strike to the landing gear? HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE?!

[@ricky_pigeon]

As a bird, i don't know either.

[@eat_ze_bugs]

The birds need an apology, we have been blaming them for everything we do wrong.

[@sidharthshivappa1359]

@@eat_ze_bugs😂

[@coldcoilinc]

@@eat_ze_bugswell one clearly went into the left engine NOW WHAT

[@Amnasreviews]

So horrific...praying for all poor souls and their families....

[@anitaalanka8048]

So sad. May all the lost souls Rest in peace😢

[@ljs3878]

The wall there is localizer equipment that situates at the 'starting point' of a landing runway. This aircraft landed from the opposite direction(probably due to acute circumstances) of where it should have come, which explains why the wall was at the 'end' of the runway, not the starting point. Had it landed from the proper direction, things could have been different.

[@Mario_RX7]

Wow that’s sad! Straight into a wall… So sad seeing two plane crashes recently and seeing people’s lives end just like that.😰

[@dt10825]

6 crew members does not mean 6 flight attendants.....

[@pushslice]

What do you expect from today’s “professional media”? It’s basically unpaid high school interns behind-the-scenes, and one talking-head for the camera.

[@dt10825]

@@pushslice its a sad state of affairs

[@mandu9650]

I am Korean living in Australia. Most likely the casualties are people coming back from holidays or foreign workers from Bangkok. Sad.

[@emmanuelsurvival3678]

My condolence to their family and friends and may their souls rest in peace. Amen

[@2laidragon]

What a joke blaming the birds on affecting the landing gears

[@cnzaqdfrut9661]

Gotta blame someone.

[@coldcoilinc]

Pieces of the engine can break during a bird strike could have cut hydraulics. That’s basic common sense which most people don’t have 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@Kiyoone]

@@coldcoilinc and you also seems to does not understand that they have redundancies, there is a backup electric motor for emergency. Heck, there is even the last option ones that can put the land gear down MANUALLY. For all 3 of them failing? Nah, something very sinister happened and the pilots tried, but with no time to think... So they failed.

[@lordgustav6227]

​@coldcoilinc You're right. People lack the common sense to do their own research, that this aircraft, (B737-800) has a backup that deploys the landing gear (Manual Gear Extension) in the event of hydraulic system failure. But of course it's "common sense" for everyone to know that, right?

[@danzinger19]

This news doesn't get enough information, other does

[@Mike_Davidson]

The plane was intact, slowing down on the runway centerline and everyone survived the landing until they hit an immoveable wall that had no logical reason being there. 🤦‍♂🤷‍♂️

[@slifer0081]

The half meter "wall", you are talking about is a transponder in which was within regulations and was past the runway limits.

[@TamasHejja]

2meter high wall!!!​@slifer0081

[@nicschintee1511]

@slifer0081 regulations can be changed, it makes no sense to have a wall there. No matter how you put it.

[@Mike_Davidson]

@@nicschintee1511 Not one warning message from the tower either about the berms presence. I couldn't even visually see that it existed on Google maps. It must be new.

[@davidgunther1282]

Landing gear failure due to a bird strike? I don’t think so.

[@coldcoilinc]

Can VERY easily happen

[@Kiyoone]

@@coldcoilinc no, it does not.

[@myrtlekenazjanairo9411]

No. You can manually drop down the landing gear and that is just one of the options to put the landing gear down. The plane is even skidding so fast and no flaps. And besides, there are 2 engines. A plane should have landed safely with one still running.

[@davidgunther1282]

@@coldcoilinc can you explain how that can “very easily” happen? Even if they lost all hydraulics and electrical, they would still be able to extend the gear via emergency method (manual, blow down, gravity drop, etc., I’m not familiar with the 737 emergency gear extension procedure but quite positive they have one). Unless they hit a pterodactyl….

[@laplanta]

That doesnt make sense. The speed of the aircraft at the end of runway and slamming into the wall. Its like the pilots didnt know the gear was not down... else they would have taken more precautions, fly around to dump or spend fuel, find a better runway of belly up landing etc.

[@coldcoilinc]

They can’t dump fuel over populated areas

[@efhiable]

No speed brakes, no flaps, no landing gear? Complete hydraulic failure?

[@wayneyd2]

Foaming the runway may of prevented the explosion and fire.

[@nuna-niv]

basically impossible as theres 3 independent hydraulic systems. highly speculative, but seeing the speed and configuration leads me to strongly believe it was a messed up attempt for a goaround.

[@jxmai7687]

@@nuna-niv but go around should still have the landing gear down normally.

[@Snibblix]

More people could have been saved if not for that wall

[@ryleymclean313]

@@wayneyd2 would not have made a difference

[@hermanprez]

Bird strike caused a landing gear failure? Permit me to doubt.

[@coldcoilinc]

Can EASILY happen

[@hermanprez]

@@coldcoilinc Actually not, there are three redundant hydraulic systems that a bird strike will not take out. After a bird strike and compressor stall the crew certainly may have panicked and forgotten the gear and flaps but only the black boxes will tell for sure.

[@rekster11]

The initial report speculates the crash occurred due to a bird hitting the landing gear. How do they jump to this theory so quickly without any evidence??

[@MrTubsterr]

The is photo of the engine blowing fire as they landed.

[@apackwestbound5946]

Initial speculation is usually wrong and often an unfortunate attempt by the person/organization doing the speculation to increase their own share of viewership. A prime example of this if following the EVA air 777 landing accident at San Francisco the television crew being so proud as have "discovered" the identity of the flight crew and reported it as Captain "Something wrong", Co-pilot "We too low" but in a manner attempting to sound like Asian names. Media organizations jump to dumb theories in an attempt to grab viewership at the expense of accurate reporting or detailed investigative work.

[@l.d.t.6327]

@@haikalhadzik7744you mean: the same how people jump to bird strike in the case of the Azeri flight.

[@edwardrichardson5567]

Bird hitting landing gear is not gonna down an aircraft...

[@ryleymclean313]

internet professionals, a bird strike would not cause the gear to be faulty

[@dleon0902]

Whatever is that barrier sure is effective in making accidents like this one are fatal.

[@Magyar9Andras]

it's an embankment for the approach lights

[@RayMak]

Very very sad

[@Underhills]

If the wall is there to protect hotels and buildings that are close by then this isn't a suitable site for an airport. If the area was further developed after the airport was built then they did a lousy job at planning and risk management. The airport should be shut down and people should get fired.

[@mr.gorillaz8449]

apparently it's in a bird sanctuary, the wall is only to keep people out of the airport, there's a small road, no hotels

[@KS-vo3hf]

have you seen city airport in london? This isn’t the only airport with barriers g

[@dct3588]

So sad. What a tragedy.

[@jigsaw2253]

So sad saar

[@sgfuture7114]

Condolences to all families of the people on board the plane... 🙏🙏🙏

[@jessicaregina1956]

Condolences to all the armys who have to suffee without seeing our boys

[@md5927]

If I were a cameraman, my hands would shake and my phone would probably fall out of my hand. In this case, the person filming is perfectly calm as if filming some pleasant scene... How is that possible!?!

[@patlelion]

Me too I would shout so much and cry

[@shovanabajracharya]

That could be an airport camera

[@TuonoV4F]

he was expecting it?

[@BabuTechie2025]

What is the connection between bird strike and landing gear?

[@billykulim5202]

its say its a possible bird ram into the landing gear cause malfunction

[@coldcoilinc]

@@billykulim5202that’s not true. The bird clearly hit the engine they have video/photo proof

[@93adennis]

Deepest condolences to the bereaved families.😢

[@Regularguy68.]

Why would someone put a wall at end of run way?

[@rcinthesky]

uhhh because maybe thats the END of the runway??????

[@Magyar9Andras]

to surround the airport from perpetrators maybe? The wall is not solid itself if you check google maps

[@YoureMrLebowski]

we need to see what's on the other side of the wall.

[@jessicaregina1956]

To defend against the communist

[@georgehill3087]

Having walls around an airport is normal. But having a giant dirt mount and reinforced concrete just for the localizer antennae is not. In the US, the FAA requires that the Runway Safety Area (RSA) be clear of any berm, grading irregularities or structures not fixed by function. Localizers antennae do not need to be built like a bunker.

[@nemospence]

My condolences to the bereaved families. This is heartbreaking.

[@melsantamaria7384]

May they rest in peace.. My deepest condolence to the families

[@cnzaqdfrut9661]

I question the credibility of the birds’ involvement.

[@rhythmiknoise]

😂😂

[@jacklineachieng1131]

You're a Kenyan right? We're good in investigation

[@rob3h]

RIP to everyone who lost their lives. 🙏🏽🙏🏾🙏🏽

[@chiyul7576]

I can’t imagine their last moments knowing they might not make it alive. May they all rest in peace.

[@freespeech8520]

Water landing is probably safer without landing gear.

[@dna9179]

Pray for all and families. 🙏🙏🙏

[@jigsaw2253]

Your prayers are useless

[@greysonklenk5378]

@@jigsaw2253something’s wrong with you

[@ldnwholesale8552]

Bird strike? That usually effects the engines only and maybe some secondary trim components. The answers will be interesting. I still do not see how they cannot fit airfilters to those engines. At least to stop the ingress of birds and bigger rocks. The plane was doing well landing on its belly until it ran out of runway. Condolences to all effected

[@Maver1ck911]

Bird strike only makes sense on a double compressor failure past decision to rotate speeds. This was a landing with no down lock and speeds well in excess of last ditch efforts to belly slide it in. This was blatant negligence.

[@user-ux2dk8go3m]

한국뉴스에서는 항공기가 벽에 부딪히는 장면을 삭제하고 보여주지 않는데 여기선 모든 장면을 보여주네요. 한국은 무엇이든 가리고 보여주지 않는 게 많아요.

[@amishakhatri3963]

그러네요

[@lilian2731]

Rest in Peace....Condolences to all the families 🙏😔

[@iorr98]

Why did they land so long will be the one of the key questions of this investigation.

[@fingerhorn4]

Agree and the first sensible question here. If anything a no gear landing might slow an aircraft reasonably quickly. If they had already gone around that suggests they had pretty good control, so why did they try to land so close to the wrong end of the runway?

[@junghoonban]

In Korean media, if one of the two engines fails, reverse propulsion is impossible. Also, the airport runway is short, the aircraft fell in the middle, the landing gear is broken, and the area around the airport is a migratory bird sanctuary. It is a type of airplane that cannot be thrown away oil. The cause of the gas failure is hydraulic and electronic system problems or bird strikes.

[@georgehill3087]

Aircraft can fly and land with just one engine easily. They are designed to be able to do that. There usually are 3 ways to deploy the landing gear. A bird strike to one of the engines will not disable all options. If that's not the case, we'd have hundreds of crashes annually just in the US alone.

[@antonioramos7139]

There are end-of-runway safety tools designed to rapidly slow down aircraft before reaching the end of the runway. Maybe it should become compulsory at all airports.

[@FluchSei]

Guys, no need to wonder. It's a Boeing plane. Remember those whistleblowers who died under mysterious circumstances after revealing Boeing's problems?

[@mnm2156]

what were those problems they said that Boeing keeps having? follow the trail...

[@Inquisite1031]

this is a 737-800 an aircraft which has proven its safety over the years, man do u guys just read nothing ? and also the lack of flaps and landing gears for just a birdstrike is very odd so a lot of things missing to the puzzle here.

[@gottagowork]

Absolutely mind boggling your post got that many upvotes. Russian trolls are friggin everywhere these days.

[@pauliusgecas472]

@@gottagoworki hate russland but it’s true what the dude’s saying :(

[@nedbaker4129]

Condolences to south Korea for the loss of the people on this plane

[@DHSmith1823]

Wall at the end of runaway?😨

[@jessicaregina1956]

To defend against the communist

[@Yanz27-mp7kv]

Dude, thats a very bad call by the pilot landing on a very short runway and didn't even consume all it's fuel before landing.

[@ryleymclean313]

not all the time do you have the luxury of waiting around to exhaust all your fuel. This was one of those times clearly

[@tsarbomb_chan2537]

How do you even survive in a crash like this?

[@bobafett5757]

Why cannot ?

[@marcvslicinivscrassvs7536]

The two survivors in the very back. The front to mid part of the plane had already punctured the way, so the tail in went through largely un scathed. Then the tail broke off from the test of the plane wreckage which was burning. And even then only the last 2 people survived. This one was brutal.

[@paulsz6194]

Why would you land in the direction of the wall at the end of a runway ?? I didn’t see any flaps or slats deployed during the landing, let alone any reverse thrusters deployed.

[@peacenowar6920]

Without the wall .the plane may survive 😢

[@bowee257]

why does an airport have a giant brick wall at the end of the runway? RIP

[@MarcoJr666]

Don't they calculate how much distance is required to land on the belly flat?

[@Trgn]

Land come at a premium. Most major airports around the world that are near urban area have limited build space.

[@georgehill3087]

@@Trgn Dude, this airport is literally surrounded by farmland. What premium urban land?

[@Trgn]

@@georgehill3087 watch the news footage where they analyze the airport. The wall shoildnt have been there. But even without it, there is only a bit of land left beyond the runway's end and it's the sea.

[@georgehill3087]

@@Trgn What do you mean a little land? There is over 1000 ft of grassland before it'll hit any trees. That's plenty enough to at least significantly slow down the plane. There are planes that emergency landed in corn fields and skidded only a few hundred yards and came to a stop. Then there's another nearly 2000 ft of straight road and short trees before the sea. Even if the plane hits anything after the grass, the impact wouldn't be nearly as hard.

[@E6Y9E]

my deepest sympathies to victims family during this difficult time losing a loved one in this tragedy. CNA Presenter look beautiful and her voice so calms.

[@suny1265]

Landing Gear doesn't malfunction because of birds in the Engine..ols stop with such stupidity.

[@rsnald-l2j]

Sad sad day 😢 may all those who perished rest in peace. My condolences to all the families

[@eugenec7130]

If, as reported, a bird prevented the landing gear to function, then this is a big concern. Any plane is very likely to hit a bird or a flock of birds during take-off or landing.

[@coldcoilinc]

Use some common sense

[@taohun5706]

Omg I’m so sorry to hear that, my deepest condolences for your loss, May their soul Rest In Peace 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@RubicCantSpam]

No flaps, no landing gear? Too many precautions have failed for this to happen.

[@mnm2156]

lemme guess, a BOEING PLANE? 🤨

[@JD-hr8oq]

Looked like it was still under power when it hit the wall

[@romelynfelosopo2798]

To the departed souls 😢, may you rest in peace 🙏

[@lanesworld4000]

That plane was going way too fast, so they didn't use the entire runway. They would've skidded to a stop way sooner if they touched down on the beginning of the runway. Something doesn't make sense here.

[@altafnazir]

no, it didn't stop because landing gear failed to open

[@jonjohnson2844]

Yeah if everything was under control they wouldn't have landed so close to a wall, those poor people

[@CrispyOkra]

Engine and possible hydraulic failure due to a bird strike on approach. The pilots likely thought there was no chance of a go around and did the best they could. RIP.

[@rcinthesky]

Duh maybe there is no landing gear???? You think that might be the issue???

[@rcinthesky]

@@CrispyOkra sure mr. pilot.... Just please say nothing instead of your opinion on what happened...

[@Bocianklekocian]

In Poland, a few years ago, there was an incident with Lot - first the plane burned fuel, then they inflated the entire runway and landed without landing gear and there was no wall at the end of the runway. this is some absurdity going on there.... 

[@Frankiefirenze]

That's because they had time to do those things. They didn't hear

[@niekocandra6326]

Why is a wall in there, such a bad rescue platform... RIP 😢

[@greysonklenk5378]

It is actually very helpful, it protect people, and buildings from the plane

[@stanleytcw]

Why is there a Wall at the end of the runway????.....it might skidded to a stop ......i think the pilot has done his best without the wheel ......

[@bobafett5757]

Could be construction site

[@stanleytcw]

@bobafett5757 then the blame should also be on the airport runway construction......

[@bobafett5757]

@@stanleytcw So who is responsible for that construction ?

[@stanleytcw]

@@bobafett5757 just saw a KZbinr under the Pilot Blog which give a clear information on this Wall....which he also question is wrong

[@bobafett5757]

@@stanleytcw Then explain why Canada and Norway plan just skidded on runway and they are Boeing and theres no construction there ?

[@fathercarras28]

My stupid question is: "who shoot the video?" I am saying he just happened to be there filming airplanes?

[@md5927]

👍

[@shuavonn]

Yes a lot of people have live streams of airports all over KZbin or they're there watching as a hobby.

[@jhonnystudio]

Yes! They're called plane spotters.

[@kantokuu]

Plane spotters, pretty much hobbyists.

[@archardor3392]

Yes, the question is stupid. If you work at the airport and know that a plane is about to make an emergency landing, of course you will film it. It isn't something kept in secret, everybody on that airfield knows that the plane is making an emergency landing and are ready to jump and assisst the moment it lands.

[@MG-ot2yr]

Belly landing and didn't dump fuel?

[@angelicnunez-scott8859]

So sad to see this happening.

[@l.d.t.6327]

No flaps, no landing gear, trust reversers in use. Without all hydraulics, less likely the plane would have landed on the runway. The missing landing gear is strange, and the thrust reversers indicate the engines were still (at least partly) functional. Not very likely this was (only) by birdstrike.

[@pondeify]

why do they have a wall at the end of the runway?

[@jessicaregina1956]

So that you can make a youtube comment

[@greysonklenk5378]

It’s for protecting hotels and people in front of the runway

[@bobafett5757]

Am going to cancel all my flights cos the weather looks no good

[@hasifhalim2244]

Condolences to the family

[@mitchellsahl4555]

This plane was somehow still travelling at over nominal landing speed (80+ m/s) after 3km of runway to slow down. It is 265m from the end of the runway to the embankment it impacted, and it crossed that distance in 3.3s. How does this happen? There is massive incompetence involved here: mechanical troubles can't account for the pilots' failure to reduce speed.

[@octovanfoo968]

I am not a expert but here are some observations 1.) There is landing gear failure, no landing gear probably means it cant help to reduce speed while in the air 2.) No landing gear means no brakes from the wheel after landed 3.) Some of the people in the comments mentioned about the flaps, speed brakes and spoilers are not deployed possibly due to hydraulic problems? 4.) We do not know if reverse thrust can be used at that point of time. some people in the comments mentioned it was used.

[@MatheusCarvalho-ev9hw]

The same thing happened in Brazil 17 years ago. The plane hit a building just at the end of the runaway. No one took the blame.

[@CommanderCronus]

My theories: Theory 1. Engine blew, severed the hydraulic lines. Theory 2. Birdstrike, and pilot forgot to lower landing gear. Which one is correct?

[@ryleymclean313]

neither

[@realnapster1522]

First one is correct. There was an engine explosion before landing.

[@georgehill3087]

One engine failure does not lead to completely unable to deploy landing gears. There are redundancies in place just for situations like this. Else, we'd have hundreds of crashes annually just in the US alone.

[@andrew_alxf]

0:18 that's a lot of damage. It's miracle anyone can survive from that

[@Tawaz1]

May God be with the families.

[@drgta6]

Why did they attempt to land without gears like that? Why not land on the water nearby?

[@polarspirit]

Correct me if im wrong. Shouldn't pilots dump fuel before crash landing?

[@pb99865]

If they know there is a failure, then yes. It recently happened in India, they emptied fuel and landed safely.

[@animegamingdude]

smaller planes like the 737 dont have the ability to dump fuel you typically only see that with widebody planes

[@po2769]

737 does not have the ability to throw away fuel

[@sidharthshivappa1359]

So sad my prayers for the bereaved families 😢😢😢😢

[@geranong9547]

western media will point finger/blamed to russia again 😂😂😂

[@davidr.wilson8194]

It the landing gear malfunctioned it shouldn't affect the flight controls.Video of the crash shows no flaps or spoilers extended to help slow the plane.With no flaps it also makes a higher landing speed necessary,seems like this emergency was handled incorrectly.

[@JonKuster]

dumping all fuel before the landing was not possible???

[@junghoonban]

In Korean media, if one of the two engines fails, reverse propulsion is impossible. Also, the airport runway is short, the aircraft fell in the middle, the landing gear is broken, and the area around the airport is a migratory bird sanctuary. It is a type of airplane that cannot be thrown away oil.

[@junghoonban]

The cause of the gas failure is hydraulic and electronic system problems or bird strikes.

[@christophermuzyoka3353]

Surely, a wall at the end of the runway is something that I fail to digest. I'm sure without this wall a good number of passengers would have survived.

[@SmokyOle]

One of the worst plane crashes in history. Why did the Korean pilot not at least pull up and dodge the wall if the landing gear failed? He drove straight into it.

[@AiMimi-Lunix]

I doubt they had any other choice at that point.

[@coldcoilinc]

Ask him

[@mercuryangel5632]

OMG, just to watch how it blew up with all those souls on board is so heartbreaking!

[@sleazyeezy9452]

This reminds me of the LOT Polish incident but they all survived since the pilot slowed the plane down as much as possible to stop in time before they hit something. Here the pilot was going way too fast, something else was up I think other than landing gear. Maybe the engines were done for and they had no control of them at all or no reverse thrust since they couldn’t slow down at all.

[@mnm2156]

it looked like the engine was displaced after the belly landing then they hit the wall... This is just too tragic to watch. I know it could all have been avoided.