Sacred Pessimism - Prof Bendell marks 5 years of the Deep Adaptation movement

[@AudioPervert1]

Embrace collapse ... and learn from those who are already collapsing. Kudos to Jem Bendell to say FAILURE clearly.

[@niteengupte]

The quote about keeping death on our shoulder originally came from Juan Matus a Yaqui 'medicine man' and teacher of Carlos Castaneda. My guides in the late 60s. I discovered Ram Dass as I recovered from a quadruple heart bypass, covid and other challenges. I then truly and fully accepted death as my advisor. Ram Dass is one of most lucid spiritual teacher with a tremendous sense of humour.

[@zsuzsisimon5758]

Your books and speeches, and the podcasts of Balázs totally changed the way I see things and how I think or lead my life. I think this kind of change happens very rarely in people’s life, if it happens at all… I cannot put in words how grateful I am for both of your work and effort!❤

[@seankennedy2856]

I’d like to hear Jem’s thoughts on industrial animal agriculture. About 90% of global farmed vertebrates are factory farmed, and this industry is very destructive and cruel.

[@antonyjh1234]

If I may? We feed more crop waste to animals than what we grow for them, cattle and sheep are mostly on non arable land. We don't just get meat and the total emissions put onto that portion isn't a fair comparison against only crops that make it to market. per kg, not nutrition or macro's. We don't spray or irrigate the non arable which is 75% of the land they use, the arable land that is directed to all animals in the form of corn or dairy will never get a crop replacement to cover all that we get. If in USA, all animals take around a third of corn, they take all the waste like from soy, where humans take 92% of the human usable part, animals only take 8% but we say they take the majority and they do, by weight of the total product of which the majority of what they eat, we can't. Getting rid of caged animals will still mean crop waste exists, it could be composted but then it still emits, we pass it through animals and blame them but the emissions will still exist. Getting rid of animals on non arable land will mean a synthetic replacement, not a better replacement overall.

[@SamWilkinsonn]

@@antonyjh1234 Another bad take lol. It's like you're some kind of caricature of a stereotypical capitalist propagandist. -Look at all of the forest being burned down for the 'production' of the livestock. -Horrendous living conditions. -You're right in that there is far too much food waste, of which some is fed to animals, but you should see that as a problem with too much food waste instead of a benefit because animals get to eat it. -All sorts of waste runoff into local water-systems. -The list goes on and on.

[@antonyjh1234]

@@SamWilkinsonn Wow, luckily or unluckily my other reply got mistakenly not posted. I have been both types of plant based, I can tell you the problems if you would like but maybe listen or ask before you keep being on insulting. You have a good one.

[@Phoeagdor]

Thought you lost it last post, they be some funny medicine over there, then back you come with this. Good talk, shine on.

[@SamWilkinsonn]

It wasn't the movement's failure; it was *the* *powerful's* *success* to maintain their positions at all costs. It has always been a David and Goliath fight. Huge thanks to you and all the others involved in the struggle even though we didn't have the fairy-tale outcome of said myth. The future will be beyond grim but blame the obfuscators, not yourselves.

[@antonyjh1234]

In a way it was the movements fault as they all went back to their jobs, took pay rises and holidays. I don't know a single person that consumes less than they did before, certainly not by half in the last 30 years.

[@SamWilkinsonn]

@@antonyjh1234 it’s their fault they had to work to survive, usually having to support for their family too? You’re seriously blaming them instead of corps, banks, hedge-funds , oil, etc? lol There’re lots of scientists in XR. Lots of people are consuming less, if you know nobody that does it says more about the social groups you’re in, and by the sounds of it you as well.

[@antonyjh1234]

@@SamWilkinsonn You are talking about middle class choices, those that in reality don't understand money or oil. Should I blame the sheep for eating the grass or the farmer for setting up the field is what you are asking. 30 years people have been told to consume 80% percent less, I notice you didn't mention yourself but what I am saying is you can't blame the people we are customers of, just because they don't have another choice. Your whole life. even existing is because of those companies, the question is what else are you offering?

[@SamWilkinsonn]

‘I notice you didn’t mention yourself’ lol. I quit my job and have been out of work for 5 months. Stopped driving. I don’t buy anything besides food and the odd item, but then i try to borrow or get it second hand first. The issue is scientists may have been saying consume less but MSM, movies, basically many main social influencers [not the modern definition], rife advertising, etc. push to buy. Who pays for all of this culture manipulation? The corps. So yes, I can blame them. I also impart some blame on the consumers themselves still. Your last paragraph’s absolutely hilarious. Don’t think I’ve ever seen someone lick boots that hard. You’ve been formed into a mindless citizen by BigCorp, congrats.

[@antonyjh1234]

@@SamWilkinsonn No need to get defensive or insulting, haven't driven in over a year, same time I chose to stop working. We were born into a free market without any controls, just based on how much money you have, which they print at a cost of about 3 cents per hundred dollars which we pay back with our lives, you really are blaming the lack of controls on consumption. Who was supposed to do this, remembering computers didn't really exist like they do now until 30 years ago? How or when should the controls been put on to people in business going back generation, when or what should they have done to be guilt free?

[@SamWilkinsonn]

12:07 That guy delivering the water was doing what my dad used to do when handing me something, he used to not let go until I said thanks 😂

[@oskari3659]

Is Simons speech available somewhere?

[@niteengupte]

...even better news is there is no you, just the experience of falling.

[@jembendell]

Love it!

[@johnsteven1247]

How can we read a transcript, please, of this presentation?

[@roo3515]

Go to the the description blurb below the 'Subscribe' button, Click the 'More' link to expand it, scroll down till you find transcript. Click the blue "Show Transcript". I use this all the time for research and to quote passages from KZbin as sources.

[@TennesseeJed]

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