Versus Series: Darth Malak Vs. Yoda

[@GreyJedi91]

You did not portray Malak as an idiot, but rather as a threat to be taken seriously. Even though I knew who would win this one (we probably all did...) this was fantastic. Less of a rant and more of an explanation of your views on Yoda's flaws was welcome. Virtually everything you said about Malak (his merits and his flaws) are things I agree with...I even recognize a few elements of this from our chats in the past. Most of all, the firm argument in favor of treating Malak as a viable threat and how this view of him has unfortunately been repeatedly undermined by many within the fan-base by inappropriate negative comparisons to his legendary predecessor/killer was something that I (as a fan of both Revan and Malak) am very grateful for. Two of my favorite characters. One of my favorite versus video entries. Great job!

[@ForklifterMatt]

+GreyJedi91 Agreed! While the verdict is... obvious, it was still an incredibly interesting analysis of both characters. And Malak is certainly underrated by a good majority of the fan base.

[@zacharyclapp1072]

+GreyJedi91 I agree with the verdict, but not with Malak being anything more than simple minded in his tactical prowess. This is not simply due to him being in the shadow of Revan, but due to my own comparisons of him to other battlefield tacticians. Take, for example Anakin. While sometimes overly hasty, he knows how to manipulate the situation to his advantage. In fact, it could be argued that the only time he fails tactically, is when those close to him became involved. Compare this to Malak who, instead of teaching his army to think outside the box or at least doing so himself, solves everything with brute force. On Taris, he simply slagged the planet, where another would have at the very least concentrated all the fire on the general area of the landing pods. In his first in game fight against Revan, while he did show a decent level of tactical viability (as compared to a Lord with a similar name) he failed to bring any backup of his own when he even admitted that he sensed them and knew that Revan was probably there. Even his final battle, while showing that he knew his own weaknesses, also showed his incompetence as his response to Revan's advance was to throw flesh at him to slow him down. Anakin, Obiwan, Kota, etc. would have realized that priority 1 was keeping Bastila safe because if she is even killed, the larger battle was over, and thus would have gathered her and any remaining allies together so that the super killer would reach him only to be met with a force that, while it still might not stop him, would at least tire and wound him making for a much easier kill. All I'm saying is that there is a reason that the war stalemated when Malak took the reigns, and it wasn't that Revan was on the other side (he was on the verge of death or an average soldier for a couple of years after all).

[@GreyJedi91]

+SSJG Vegeta I don't have as much time as I would like to respond to this properly right now, but I the most important thing I want to say would be this: In a broad sense, I don't entirely disagree with most of what you're saying here...though I wouldn't highlight all of the same examples to illustrate the point. My favorable view of Malak has less to do with his tactical outlook (this being almost the entire focus of your comment) than with the generally advanced skillset and depth in the Force which he displayed. These should not be dismissed as readily as so many within the fan base do, and always have done. While not exactly a genius, he was still very powerful and although you're saying the war stalemated following Revan's capture, the Republic still had to rely heavily on Bastila's battle meditation and Malak had apparently improved upon Revan's designs for the capabilities of the Star Forge. My memory is a little foggy right now, but it was either Carth or members of the Jedi Council who admitted that Bastila's ability was the only reason Malak hadn't already won. He may not have been as competent as Revan (who was military genius)...that does not make him flatly incompetent. Malak's achieved feats in terms of physical might and resilience, his displayed Force abilities, and his theorized study of lightsaber combat are listed within the video. In addition to these, he was believed to have been Master Kavar's killer by the Canderous and the rest of the Mandalorians prior to the famed Jedi Guardian's reemergence on Onderon. Despite not bringing back-up on the Leviathan, Malak still subdued Onasi and Shan and would have actually killed Revan if not for their interference. Out of universe (so...not necessarily all that important...still an interesting thing to keep in mind) he is considered to have been the superior duelist to Revan by the characters' creators Drew Karpyshyn according to a blog post on his website. Not saying he's a genius, or better than Revan, or the greatest Sith of all time. But he's a lot more than most make him out to be. That's the essence of my stance on the character.

[@zacharyclapp1072]

+GreyJedi91 I completely agree that, when it comes to small scale combat, Malak has both the wit and the power to be a viable threat to anyone. In fact, I too think that he is grossly underestimated. As I said, my only issue was with the statement that he is anything other than mediocre in terms of combat tactics. He is the Brawn, and he knows this, hence his backup plans playing to that strength. However he does have some fine points that are often overlooked, such as his lust for a greater understanding of the force which lead him to discover the first star map, or his experimental side that allowed him to retrofit the Starforge. In the big picture, he is the regular genius (Einstein) who's best friend and rival is a savant (Tesla).

[@kiadisandwich1836]

When do you plan to release your next versus vid, Grey Jedi?

[@EvanNova95]

(Claps Hands) Fantastic my friend, absolutely fantastic. You presented both a logical and respectful analyses on Darth Malak while showcasing a balanced view on Yoda. Very Nice!

[@weserphillip]

Not sure if serious! This guy is an idiot.

[@DropkickNation]

+Phillip Weser Agreed. His biased stand on Yoda is annoying as hell.

[@weserphillip]

+Chris Purolover So Yoda ruled for hundreds of years of peace and sent the sith into hiding but he couldn't fight? Dude is clueless. And I love the fact that he never mentions the fact that Yoda didn't leave until Sidious had a platoon of stormtroopers with him. He just chalks it up to Yoda sucks. It's like we'll yeah, I would fight you, but no I would not fight you and 20 other guys. Sidious got fried by his own lightning when Yoda could shove it back in his face, he was defenseless against Yoda.

[@DropkickNation]

Phillip Weser I'm not sure whether or not he was defenseless, but Yoda clearly was able to redirect the lighting, and create an explosion that threw both fighters off. The problem being that Yoda stood on the edge of the platform and therefore fell down, while Sidious, even though being bigger, and standing more in the middle, nearly fell down himself. As for the rest, I completely agree with you. Of course he wouldn't fight Sidious and the clone troopers at once, as a duel with someone like the Sith lord was dangerous enough, since he was pretty much Yodas equal. So yeah. His stand on Yoda always baffles me.

[@crazyscotsman9327]

+Chris Purolover Let me explain, he is not really questioning Yoda's abilities, because he highlights what Yoda is fully capable of doing, however the bigger issue is how limited Yoda uses them in his fighting. When he is clearly his foes superior it is not an issue, ripping through their force shields and showing them who's boss. But when he goes up against someone who is his equal or comparable to him in the force, he is in trouble. Because he has trained himself for the direct approach, I will compare Obi-wan to Yoda here. Obi-wan is far weaker then Yoda in terms of force powers and scope, however he uses his powers more creatively when he was dueling Anakin, he was able to manipulate the mechanical joints in Anakin's hand forcing Anakin to drop his lightsaber. Yoda has never been shown using his skills in such a controlled manor, Yoda who is considered the greatest mind of the Jedi Order when it comes to battle strategy fails completely to apply his knowledge to single combat. Yoda who has over 800 years of training in the Jedi Order has massive power but very little precision against other force adepts of near equal power and skill. Now Lightsaber combat, Yoda tries to blitz kill his enemies, which is perfectly fine if he is fighting someone inferior to him in lightsaber combat, or in force power. But against someone who is near equal to his power and skill they can fend him off, and once he tires he's fucked. Again the issue isn't his skill as he has mastered every single form of Lightsaber combat, and mastered Ataru to a level unmatched by any Jedi of his time. But he acts like a tactless berserker in combat when he is the greatest General the Jedi Order had, he has everything he needs to be unbeatable, he has the skills, it's because he doesn't use them creatively, or with his tactile genius that makes him lose. Shit he would have crushed Palpatine if he had used the same level of creativity he uses on the battlefield against the Sith Lord.

[@Smeeeeeghead]

Malak has always been an underrated character, IMO, the very fact that you put him against Yoda shows that he is at least comparable. The matchup itself deserves a thumbs up!

[@KumaoftheForest]

The big issue is Malek is compared to other Sith who are above him, compare him Clone Wars Jedi and his advantages show. He’d give Obi-wan some trouble and I’d LOVE to see him battle Maul

[@AntoineBandele]

Good effort but I find this to be a mismatch at its foundation. Malak is, at most, a tier below Yoda. Even Revan would have a difficult time with Yoda. And Revan is Malak’s superior by way of the blade and the Force. Revan is comparable to Yoda, not Malak. Malak, while augmented by the Star Forge (KOTOR), was defeated by Revan, who was not yet fully realized (Revan), and that iteration of Revan had to cut through scores of Malak’s acolytes (KOTOR). If Malak was more skillful with the blade than Revan, he would not need an amp. If he was more powerful or skillful than Revan with the Force, he would not need an amp. With that said, and by extension, Revan could not defeat Emperor Vitiate who was, at the time, the most powerful Sith Lord. Revan definitely contended with Vitiate, even giving him pause but he was ultimately no match. How does this connect with Yoda? “Yoda went after Palpatine in the empty Senate chamber, but could not defeat the most powerful Sith Lord in history.” (Essential Chronology) “Inside the spacious interior of the Galactic Senate chamber, Yoda challenged the Emperor. The two engaged in a spectacular duel-a contest between the most powerful practitioners of the Force's light and dark sides.” (The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia) Sidious is factually more powerful than Vitiate during the events of the Revan novelization. None of this was addressed in your video, unless I missed something. I also disagree that Yoda lacked precision in his use of the Force. As written in Dark Rendezvous: “The first touch of genuine combat Dooku could remember was playing a game of push-feather with [Yoda]. The point of the game was to become aware of the faintest, tiniest changes in pressure and balance, and to learn to counter one’s opponent’s force *not by blocking with greater force* of one’s own, but by turning the opponent’s energy back on him or her. But as good as [Dooku] got, he never beat Master Yoda. No matter what trick he tried - a Force push from behind, a slap to the eyes - the Master always felt the blow before it landed and twitched aside, like a stingfly dodging angry hands. Yoda would melt away from the blow, and like someone walking down a staircase with two steps inexplicably missing, Dooku would find himself flailing, the old familiar lurch of loss of balance. The drop.” (Dark Rendezvous) There are reasons why Force-sensitives of nuance (i.e. Dooku and Mace) could not out spar Yoda. Fatigue was not the cause of Yoda’s defeat against Sidious. For one, their fight lasted almost as long as Anakin and Obi-Wan’s marathon fight. And Yoda was defeated simply because he did not have the power to keep up with Sidious, not due to a lacking stamina. As stated in the novel, “Yoda simply did not have it.” … not… “Yoda simply was too tired.” (Revenge of the Sith novelization) And it is not as though Matthew Stover is adverse to describing someone being tired. He does so at the beginning of the novel, stating that Dooku’s swordplay with Obi and Anakin was becoming tiresome (Revenge of the Sith novelization). Your final verdict for Malak’s superior physical abilities over Yoda didn’t really work itself out. You say Yoda’s superior agility is not overwhelming. Yet he could evade three Jedi Masters (Plo, Billaba and Tiin) in sparring sessions (Shadow Hunter). Not to mention he could contend with Sidious to the point where he could disarm the Sith Lord. The same Sith Lord who speed blitzed three other Jedi Masters. The same Sith Lord who could only be matched by Windu through a circumstantial amp (Revenge of the Sith novelization). Malak does not have any achievements in speed that suggest he could contend with Yoda without being overwhelmed. You still seem to negate direct sources of Yoda’s abilities. It’s not just fanboys who are clamoring for Yoda’s superiority as a lightsaber duelist. There are several sources that back it up. And Yoda has more than a perfect track record against Dooku and Sidious. He is also been noted as direct superior to Mace’s bladework: “Master Windu was also known within the Order for his unusual fighting style, one that he developed after studying the dueling styles of various lightsaber masters. His attacks consisted of relentless, unpredictable blows, like shots from an autoblaster. Master Windu himself remained perfectly balanced and centered. In the history of the Jedi Order, only two opponents ever overcame him in battle. One was Master Yoda, who some said was the Order's *true master of lightsaber combat.* The other was former Master Dooku, whose own fighting style was archaic, yet stunningly effective.” (Power of the Jedi) “Though it was true that he had slowed slightly in the years that Mace Windu had known him, Yoda's skill with a lightsaber was still second to none on the council.” (Shadow Hunter) “With a stooped, small appearance, Yoda may not look like a warrior, but his skills with a lightsaber were unequaled.” (Lightsabers) EDIT: 41:22 - What a very surreptitious slight without any discussion, especially using a comment from someone like a Padawan Anakin Skywalker. Skywalker, who had no appreciation or respect for anything Yoda did. Skywalker, who incorrectly assessed his own power to Yoda's own: "Obi-Wan: If you spent as much time practicing your saber techniques as you did your wit, you'd rival Master Yoda as a swordsman. Anakin: I thought I already did. Obi-Wan: Only in your mind, my very young apprentice." _Source: Attack of the Clones (2002)_ Let us not forget what happened at the end of that same movie. Anakin, who has very little appreciation for practice or refinement. Anakin, who already thinks he's an equal to Yoda in saber combat, the same Anakin you pulled a quote from, just about literally gets his arm handed to him by Dooku. Dooku, who conceded his lightsaber fight with Yoda, choosing to turn tail. Yoda is great because his technique is perfect, that's why one learns technique in the first place. Yoda is like the 2015 San Antonio Spurs, and more specifically, Tim Duncan, a.k.a. Mr. Fundamentals. You often argue that Yoda is too text book and predictable but often times that is irrelevant in straight up fights. As long as you have the fundamentals and the technique, you're gonna land your hits against the guy who is less refined and less practiced. Every basketball player knows Tim Duncan's (and the Spurs') moves before they make them. In fact, Kobe Bryant famously said everyone knows what the Spurs will do but they execute so well and that's what makes them so great (_Kobe Doin' Work. 2009_), that's what made them so consistently great for the past decade and a half, much like how consistently great Yoda had been for 900 years. Sure there might be some outlier chances of him losing, but these VS are a designation of who is more likely the victor. And with as solid a foundation as Yoda has, it's usually gonna be the little green dude who takes the win. But again, we differ very much in our opinions of Yoda. You see his greatest strength as some sort of handicap, as though he couldn't break through the defenses of someone like Vader, who's had quite a few defensive lapses which you sometimes overlook, or that he is somehow inept because he can consistently contend with a vast majority of his adversaries. Sure your distaste may come from how the animators/directors depicted Yoda's fighting style, but that never seemed to affect the way you assess Vader (I think I discuss this point in my original comment though). Well this little appendage went on longer than I intended. You did much better with your Yoda assessment but you still seem to discount some of his foundation within the lore. Your assessment is still based largely on movie choreography and less on what is true within the lore. Sometimes I wish you took Yoda as you do Vader. You discount Vader’s slow moving and clunking fighting style in the movies, and take his displays mostly from The Force Unleashed novelizations. But you don’t extend that same assessment to Yoda. While it is true that a defensive fighter would do well against Yoda in theory, one must still consider the overwhelming speed that Yoda possesses, which would break through the guard of a defensive fighter, unless they could achieve tantamount speeds (i.e. Vader could not achieve this speed, nor Bane, nor a majority of other Force users). Sure there were folks who’s styles would do well against Yoda, but they first have to be as fast as Yoda for any of that to matter. That extends to Obi-Wan as well, who is unlikely to be able to contend with Sidious, who moved much faster than Grievous (Revenge of the Sith novelization). It would have been a chief reason for Yoda to say Obi-Wan was not ready (not to mention Kenobi’s inferior Force abilities). And Yoda disarmed Sidious of his blade, which is in direct contradiction to your assessment that he would be incapable of such a feat. This also indicates his precision with his lightsaber, not just his power or speed. That all said, you did very well on the video and the verdict was exactly how I would see something between them happening. I just don’t agree with the assessment of Yoda from its foundation. I think you did very well assessing Malak. He is too often underrated and I’m glad you pointed out that’s because he was always being compared to Revan. It’s like calling Kobe Bryant just not as good as Michael Jordan. You’ve still got Kobe Bryant.

[@DB6195]

At the very least it's interesting to listen to If only to hear how his opinions have evolved with Yoda and how his Malak breakdown compares to Evans

[@LukeJamesMurtaghl]

Antoine, I do not see the problem. Look at Starkiller. He was quite often at least a tier below his opponents. Look at Vader. There is no doubt in my mind that Vader was the superior duelist and force wielder and yet Starkiller was still able to contend with Vader. There are some force sensitives who can punch above their weight, and I believe Malak is one of them.

[@jimbob1862]

Good points, just a quick correction though. The script to ROTS says that Yoda was able to completely match Sidious since he was able to disarm and fully block his lightning ("the energy bolts arced back onto him, it looks as if The Emperor is doomed" is a direct quote) so I don't think it is right to say he didnt keep up with Sidious. Though that may be a misinterpretation on my part and if it is I wholeheartedly apologise.

[@azronger7214]

+jamal munir In the script, Yoda also jumps to the levels with no explanation. I think the only logical explanation was that he was overpowered. Just because the lightning arced back on Sidious does not mean he was losing. Look at the scene with Windu. I think the exact same thing happened there. Yoda, like Windu, was being overpowered, and thus, was forced to retreat. "But the script said the Dark Lord was doomed!" -a common argument against Sidious. Please note: it specifically has the words "as if" in it. It looked like Sidious was losing, but in reality the exact opposite was happening, just like with Windu. This is further reinforced when Yoda creates that ball of energy that even he couldn't control, to prevent him being overpowered by Sidious' lightning. A desperate escape, as I see it. With that being said, I think Sidious was actually Yoda's superior, not equal, if only by a slight margin. And unlike this video suggests, I think Yoda can be legitimately overpowered, albeit with great effort.

[@jimbob1862]

Azronger It does state he jumped to the levels without explanation that is a fair point, personally I just assumed that was because it was cut to Obi Wan and Anakin so they didn't bother. It also states that he completely blocked it and when he pushed back it caused the explosion. Personally I still see it as a stalemate because Yoda was able to fully block it, but not able to successfully redirect it fully at him and control the energy build up which caused the explosions, which I see as fair considering the opponent. The other reason I see it as a draw is simply because it states in the force clash that "one could not overcome the other", suggesting that both were completely equal, but neither had full control over the clash which in turn caused the explosion. You bring up good points and I can easily see why you would believe Sidious is slightly stronger as there is a good argument for that.

[@zyggybaranowski6852]

Yoda was analized particularly well. Because he had always been the strongest force user, Yoda did not have to learn round about ways to win, like Obi Wan did. Yoda was used to being able to power through anything and as such did not train himself to be creative, where Obi Wan often had to outsmart opponents and relied on being one step ahead. Job well done

[@dazdavis7896]

He was ANALIZED!???? I sure fuckin hope not.

[@gabrielcarrasco9078]

I wouldn't say that. Yoda fought Sideous in the chamber on the rising council seat because he knew a confined space would limit Sideou's ability with the saber.

[@Reti4]

Aaaah, such an enjoyable video, this is irrefutably one of your best friend. The analysis, as always, was in-depth and well delivered and while it is obvious to all who will win from the start, that is clearly not the point of the video. Using these two combatants against one another was an excellent way to explore the technical aspects and general approaches of both, as well as highlight the exact capabilities of each in regards to various different opponents. What sets this apart from most of your work though, is the music. You have always been good at blending narration and musical choices together to set the tone of a section and/or video as a whole, but every now and then you hit a video like this, where you accomplish it not just exceedingly well, but amazingly. It seems like an insignificant thing compared to the rest, but the rest with you is always a given, it's a special treat to see the tone of a video so beautifully set like this one.

[@DB6195]

Well I know who's going to win BUT 1. I'm interested to see how your breakdown of Malak compares to Evans 2. Extremely interested to see your updated breakdown of Yoda A thought provoking matchup even if its not a close one

[@joshuakei8925]

and see how Malak stacks up

[@AntoineBandele]

One thing I just realized was not in my original comment (though I suppose I'll add to it now): 41:22 - What a very surreptitious slight without any discussion, especially using a comment from someone like a Padawan Anakin Skywalker. Skywalker, who had no appreciation or respect for anything Yoda did. Skywalker, who incorrectly assessed his own power to Yoda's own: "Obi-Wan: If you spent as much time practicing your saber techniques as you did your wit, *you'd rival Master Yoda as a swordsman.* Anakin: *I thought I already did.* Obi-Wan: Only in your mind, my very young apprentice." _Source: Attack of the Clones (2002)_ Let us not forget what happened at the end of that same movie. Anakin, who has very little appreciation for practice or refinement. Anakin, who already thinks he's an equal to Yoda in saber combat, the same Anakin you pulled a quote from, just about literally gets his arm handed to him by Dooku. Dooku, who conceded his lightsaber fight with Yoda, choosing to turn tail. Yoda is great _because_ his technique is perfect, that's why one learns technique in the first place. Yoda is like the 2015 San Antonio Spurs, and more specifically, Tim Duncan, a.k.a. Mr. Fundamentals. You often argue that Yoda is too text book and predictable but often times that is irrelevant in straight up fights. As long as you have the fundamentals and the technique, you're gonna land your hits against the guy who is less refined and less practiced. Every basketball player knows Tim Duncan's (and the Spurs') moves before they make them. In fact, Kobe Bryant famously said everyone knows what the Spurs will do but they execute so well and that's what makes them so great (_Kobe Doin' Work. 2009_), that's what made them so _consistently_ great for the past decade and a half, much like how _consistently_ great Yoda had been for 900 years. Sure there might be some outlier chances of him losing, but these VS are a designation of who is more _likely_ the victor. And with as solid a foundation as Yoda has, it's usually gonna be the little green dude who takes the win. But again, we differ very much in our opinions of Yoda. You see his greatest strength as some sort of handicap, as though he couldn't break through the defenses of someone like Vader, who's had quite a few defensive lapses which you sometimes overlook, or that he is somehow inept because he can consistently contend with a vast majority of his adversaries. Sure your distaste may come from how the animators/directors depicted Yoda's fighting style, but that never seemed to affect the way you assess Vader (I think I discuss this point in my original comment though). Well this little appendage went on longer than I intended.

[@ragingocelot4013]

God what a cocky bastard

[@omnitool1586]

Cocky? His response was very well-mannered and thorough. It's not like he said "ugh, Jensaarai sux" ... He presented his points with examples.

[@mrpleasant97]

+Lance Sparda These two are meant to be working together on a Versus series on Antoines Channel. This is friendly professional bantering to each other.

[@omnitool1586]

I believe the video you are referring to will be going live on Jensaarai1's channel. They already collaborated on Antoine's channel.

[@maxkogan3785]

+Antoine Bandele Okay that's it. There needs to be a debate video between you and Jensaarai1 on Yoda ASAP.

[@kronos48221]

"Word of God has it" might just be my favorite line out of all your matches, even the ones with Kun. Nice

[@michaelkraine8438]

Wow you are awesome Jensaarai! When I first saw the title I thought this was a terrible matchup but you made me remember how strong and interesting Malak was in KOTOR.

[@tyrstark8673]

To me, the Old Republic is canon. I don't care what Disney says.

[@tvvistedv3nom26]

It’s not canon to eps 1-6 by George either he sees kotor and the eu as an alternate universe he didn’t want it connecting to his own

[@FatefulMedia3383]

0:00 - 2:43 Malak Intro 2:49 Yoda intro 4:55 Deeper insights into combat 6:32 Force abilities 11:54 For Yoda 18:50 Force verdict 21:21 Physical capabilities 22:55 For Yoda 24:31 Physical verdict 25:02 Martial arts 33:37 Yoda 41:30 Martial arts and Final Verdict

[@Nephalem2002]

I absolutely adored this analysis of Darth Malak. I never knew that much about him before now! Absolutely love your videos

[@georgeduke2752]

Imagine being mad about the fact Yoda’s lightsaber technique and style is complete fantasy and has no basis in real world sword fighting but forgetting the fact he’s a 3ft tall green space lizard who speaks backwards and can use “ancient space magic” ...

[@ech0six]

The people in the comments saying that this is a mismatch because Yoda would effortlessly blitz Malak are ignorant of Malak's accomplishments. Stop thinking of him as "that guy with Revan" and realize that he's a more than capable Sith Lord on his own. Yoda would win, sure, but it wouldn't be over in the blink of an eye.

[@TheMan-so9do]

that's just the whole point malak is just revans lucky basically. as painful as it is to say it's true.

[@MastaKilla63]

Yoda was not defeated by Palpatine. That's the third time you've made that mistake. As someone else stated, he caught the bad end of the force battle, and before you tell me that he was defeated because he fell hundreds of feet, the same was going to happen to Sidious if he didn't manage to grab on to the metal bar that was behind him, something that Yoda didn't have.

[@ColArana]

+MastaKilla63 The RotS Novelization makes it clear Yoda lost to Sidious, at several points, to the extent that it straight up states that Yoda had been beaten by Sidious before he'd even been born.

[@MastaKilla63]

That's what the novel says. Sidious couldn't even defeat him through pure lightsaber combat, and Sidious was a master of all lightsaber forms. Just because something is implied, that doesn't mean it's stated. I still refuse to believe that Yoda lost to Sidious, who actually had to resort to his force abilities in order to retaliate later on in the fight.

[@ColArana]

MastaKilla63 Yoda couldn't defeat Sidious through pure lightsaber combat either. The two stalemated as saber duelists. Both Sidious and Yoda realized that he'd won during the force lightning struggle. The novel explicitly notes that Yoda hit his limit during that lightning struggle. He was worn out, and Sidious was still fresh. Sidious won that battle. Yoda couldn't have kept fighting even if he hadn't fallen from the platform. If anything he's lucky that he WAS blasted off as it prevented Sidious from capitalizing and finishing him. "Just because something is implied, that doesn't mean it's stated." There is nothing 'implied' about it. The novel explicitly states Yoda couldn't have won. I'll grab the quote if you like. I'll grab the multiple quotes actually as it comes up REPEATEDLY in the fight that Yoda knows he's fighting a battle he can't win.

[@MastaKilla63]

Well, I had only assumed that it was implied because of how you worded your previous response. Yoda was definitely worn out, and I certainly agree on that, but mainly because of how old he was during that fight.

[@ColArana]

MastaKilla63 I can get you the exact quote but to paraphrase a few: "The truth that he, the Grandmaster of the Jedi Order, the Avatar of Light, the greatest enemy the darkness had ever seen... just... didn't... have it. He'd never had it. He had lost before they'd started. He'd lost before he was born." That's a paraphrased quote from the novel, written from Yoda's perspective mid-duel. "The end came with astonishing suddenness. The shadow could feel how much it cost the little green freak to bend back his lightning into the cage of energy that enclosed them. The creature was at the limits of his strength." That one was from Sidious's perspective during the Force Lightning struggle. Both would seem to quite clearly indicate that Yoda's defeat was legitimate, and not by simple whim or chance. ------ With that said, there's no shame in losing to Sidious who is the most powerful Sith Lord in Galactic History. That Yoda can compete with Sidious evenly for a lengthy period of time is clear evidence of how powerful Yoda is. Only the best of the Sith would have a hope of contending with Yoda. Nobody below the level of Darth Bane would last even ten seconds.

[@CrypticParad0x]

I don't think it's fair to claim Yoda is weak in swordsmanship just because the animators were shit at their job. He is claimed in canon to be an outstanding swordsman so you should go off that, not the flashy shit for the big screen.

[@Delta2357]

Yeah, it's like saying that Vader and Obi Wan were weak in episode 4 just because choreography was different 30 years ago...

[@fuse2943]

It's stated that Yoda had mastered all the forms, but focused on Ataru due to his size, it provided the answer to his lack of reach. Throw in the fact he suffered with Arthritis in his later years would account for his slow responses and use of Force Valor to augment himself past his handicap, he finds it very taxing on his body because of his arthritis.

[@omnitool1586]

And notice how he never brings up movie choreography when he talks about Vader, utter bias.

[@watchface6836]

I think you need to take something else into account. Yoda's faults have been consistent across all of his duels. Most of Vader's lapses have been due to how often he has been involved in combat. Yoda's fought a grand total of 3/4 duels in his life. Vader had fought dozens, both as Anakin Skywalker and Darth Vader. Of course he's going to be injured more often, as Vader's had more opportunities to be injured.

[@papadragon695]

DJApok he was saying that the animators themselves knew nothing of light saber combat or even real world fencing and literally just showed him doing a bunch of flips and spins

[@ForklifterMatt]

Whoa.... this video, like your most recent one, is unexpected, not that I'm complaining :) Though the verdict is VERY obvious and I've never really agreed with your analysis of Yoda, it was still an interesting video nonetheless. Definitely one of my new favorite VS videos! Well done sir!

[@smithblack5945]

jensaarai1 I think you should do a versus series on darth nihilus

[@banethesithari]

+Smith Black The problem with nihilus is he's a one trick pony. He either instantly drains the life from his opponent or if the person he's facing is strong enough to resit it he gets wrecked. talking about physical capabilities ,lightsaber skill and overall skill power and knowledge of the force would all be pointless as it comes down entirely on can his opponent resit Nihilus drain or not.

[@azronger7214]

+banethesithari Nihilus does actually have significant TK feats. He'd be a tough battle for quite a lot of beings.

[@DropkickNation]

Nihilus vs. Exar Kun is one I always wanted to see.

[@banethesithari]

Azronger Such as ?

[@azronger7214]

banethesithari​ He pulled the Ravager out of the greatest gravity vortex in history and kept the broken ship operational purely through telekinetic might. That's extremely impressive.

[@jnocetti]

always a placer to watch the versus videos, thanks a lot for the effort!

[@cultofmalgus1310]

so well put together. THANK YOU for going in depth with Darth Malak.

[@GreenMarine3]

Question: Could Sidious penetrate Kenobi's master level Soresu defense through lightsaber skills only? I'd like to think he couldn't but I really don't know.

[@kiadisandwich1836]

+Jensaarai1 agreed.

[@kiadisandwich1836]

Ruination1000 that's exactly what I think.

[@banethesithari]

+Stormtrooper # 1138 Personally i think he could ,but only because of how much more powerful he is It's like Plageuis vs Tenbrous ,Plageuis was far less skilled with a blade but was able to win their duel because of how much more powerful he is.

[@kiadisandwich1836]

Nah, he doesn't, really. Palpatine >>> Grievous because of force speed, not skill. Maul pressured pre-prime Kenobi--even then he didn't even break through.

[@peola630]

Of course he could. Sidious is 1st or 2nd best duelist of all the mythos. Kenobi is good, but he is no where near Sidious level, even by ROTS. It is stated that Juyo is the only form that can honestly get passed Soresus defense. Sidious is a master of Juyo, the best really. That by itself puts him to breaking through Kenobi. 2nd Sidious is way to fast.

[@matturso2224]

@Jensaarai1 I really enjoy your versus series videos. Your in-depth analysis of the characters powers so thoroughly by listing of powers too is great. and in your recent videos like this one, the music volume is balanced so it doesnt overpower your voice. well done, bro.

[@thay-oh8049]

@23:21 Are you sure he was experiencing labored breathing at the scene? I would have sworn that Yoda just felt all of his Jedi Knights fall like dying flies from order 66 due to his connection to the force. You really pulled a fast one there.

[@VulKus117]

I think it was just a picture that fit the description being given. I would call it erroneous to suggest it contributes significantly in way.

[@YangChen427]

Damn it, you're making me want Darth Malak vs Shaak Ti...

[@Comedy-up5ck]

Jensaarai1 Yoda vs Darth Krayt

[@joshuakei8925]

wow really! when is it coming out? hope Malak wins (for a change)

[@edblake476]

@Wes Bradley-TaubnerYeah Ti is one of the most overrated characters in the fan base. I saw a video that stated Ti > Obi Wan... LOOOOOL

[@edblake476]

@Wes Bradley-Taubner Yeah that was a strange video to say the least. I'd actually say that Kenobi > Ti in terms of physicality. His strength is obviously higher and his speed should be superior if we consider his feats against Grievous, Maul, Anakin and Dooku. The only advantage she MIGHT have is durability, but this is countered by his far superior feats. The only thing she has is a biological advantage. I'd also say that Kenobi has a force advantage. Blowing apart Durge, using Tuntanmenis (sorry if I butchered that name) to deflect blaster bolts and contesting with a hindered Anakin's TK is above anything she could hope to replicate. Yeah Bane vs Ti is a ludicrous match-up. Whilst I really enjoy the narrative style verdict in that video, the concept is insane. Ti has trouble holding down a head to head engagement with those who have superior strength. An example would be Grievous who has strength feats comparable to Bane and POTENTIALLY superior to Vader. The main argument I hear is that she would be able to outpace him, but his greater use of physical augmentation negates this (see his rain feat for an example). Shaak Ti would have her hands full with Legends Ventress (I actually think that Canon Ventress is superior to her legends counterpart). They even out in a lot of ways. I also think that Fisto > Ti. This is a rather unpopular opinion. What do you think of these two fights? Also another mismatch involving Ti would be Plaguies vs Ti.

[@edblake476]

@Wes Bradley-Taubner I agree that he gets the physical edge. Obi Wan as a poor passive TK defence. When actively trying to use it, he can defend against Anakin attempting to blow him back. Yeah he is a drastically better duelist. Agreed on all accounts. Well Legends Ventress did contend with Mace Windu, but it was for an extremely brief period of time. Canon Ventress has contend with Dooku on 4 occasions, almost beat Anakin, contend with both Anakin and Obi Wan and defeat Grievous (yes Grievous got nerfed, but that was one of the episodes in which he was better).

[@meatbag4794]

Great vid! While I think Yoda might deserve a bit more credit for the reasons mentioned by others this is one of the few vids Iv seen that actually give Malak a bit more credit as, like you said, Revan often overshadows him and you actually talk about his skills in the force a bit more in depth than what I've seen and have definitely convinced me to move Malak up the list as one of the more powerful and worthy Sith worthy of the title of Darth.

[@JakeMac96]

Are you still doing your lord scourge collab video?

[@HamanKarn567]

Oh man hearing you mention Chu Unthor was cool. I remember first seeing that ship in the old essential guide to vehicles and vessels. It was a yellow book. I read that all the time as a kid.

[@aicentral1531]

Great Video BTW, really love your presentation of Malak!I find it extremely unlikely that the Malak is a 'superior duelist' stating that Malak didn't sacrifice his defensive viability. All Malak's forms all have extremely bad defences let alone optimised for blast deflection. Yoda on the other hand was able to guard against Dooku's offense, a form that in terms of duelling is more superior to Form IV even though the advantages were in Dooku's favour. As well as his mastery of Soresu, so the argument that Malak is 'superior' because 'Yoda leaves himself open' as his defences have never been bypassed through lightsaber combat by high top tier duelists namely Sidious and Dooku.

[@ncr_ranger96]

+AI Well, Malak had no issues fending off a dual-wielding Carth Onasi through blast deflection. Obviously not Soresu material but not negligible either.

[@aicentral1531]

Nicholas Peterman True, but blasters are one thing compared to Yoda's speed which I consider to be faster than lightspeed.

[@ncr_ranger96]

AI I'm just saying that Malak obviously has the level of mastery necessary to compensate for the flaws of his chosen forms. With regard to Dooku vs Yoda, Makashi is very bad against someone who is significantly more agile than you are. A Makashi thrust would likely miss an opponent as small and fast as Yoda and leave Dooku exposed. Ataru can blitz Makashi if used appropriately. If Yoda had been human-sized, he would have been far easier to dispatch. I'm not saying Malak would win even close to a majority out of ten tries, but he isn't given enough credit.

[@aicentral1531]

Nicholas Peterman Ah, I see. Understood true Malak isn't given enough credit yet he's still a lot lower than Yoda in terms of dueling.

[@ncr_ranger96]

AI Yes, and Malak would lose for the same reasons Dooku would. Now a versus series episode between Malak and Dooku would be interesting.

[@friendlysith7789]

Thanks for this video. You are awesome!

[@arcangel7]

All characters in Star Wars videos be like " they're one of the greatest duelist of their era". Lol everyone is.

[@joshuakei8925]

there are some dumbasses who aren't 'greatest deulists of their era"

[@lapplandkun9273]

Not really. Jensaarai1 and other versus content creators make it clear that one is "skilled but not a master" while someone else is a "master" duelist. You just aren't capable of distinguishing that

[@HighPhoenix1754]

Jensaarai, I am SO happy that you mellowed out when it came to Yoda, as I did not want one of my favorite youtubers to be subject to extreme bias. You and and Antoine are my favorite youtubers to go to for extra in depth star wars content, and I particularly enjoy how in depth you go into your arguments when it comes to the breakdowns of characters and their particular abilities. Though I may not agree with all of your points you make a solid argument when it comes to all of your match ups and it makes things even interesting when it comes to looking at things from differing arguments through your said videos and breakdowns. Overall, I enjoyed the video and, like always you didn't make the victor of the match-up seem obvious from the beginning (at least to me), the way you summed up their strengths and weaknesses made it seem like it could go either way, and it literally forced me to watch all the way to the end, even though I wanted to anyways. Keep up the good work!

[@MsSilentGaming]

Finally i found a decent representation on Malak. People always say he is weak and stuff, but they forget he fought against Revan. I mean .. come oon! He has enough power to controls the StarForge. A station that feeds off of the Force in titanic amounts to operate. Good work on the video, very well presented! (i know this video is old, but still, i had to speak up!)

[@AkosKovacs.Author.Musician]

Yeah he wasn't weak but he was rather stupid,that's something i kinda disagree with the video

[@MsSilentGaming]

In which case did he act stupidly? All i saw in the thousand times i have replayed the game is that he is just arrogant. He is a Sith through and through! He has power, he has an unstoppable armada... there are no jedi alive that can beat him in combat and he has always been charge in first.. think later kind of guy. But i haven;t played it in a while, please do share where he acts stupidly.

[@AkosKovacs.Author.Musician]

Well he was like:"I wan to capture Bastila who is on this planet.What should I do?Hmmm... DESTROY THE WHOLE PLANET ALONG WITH MY TROOPS AND THE ONE I WANT TO CAPTURE!" And in the last act he throws her at you while he spent the 2/3 of the game getting her. Plus she was the only reason his army succesed in that battle so far.And guess what happened when you beaten/redeemed her. He was genuenly surprised when his droids failed time and time an again. But my favorite moment was that he invented the technology to turn the jedi into medpacks.I mean think about that he achieved the same results with an overcomplicated and limited technology that you can do with medpacks packs during the entire game. (Also it's rather comical that Revan later turned into a medpack by vitiate but that's another story.)

[@MsSilentGaming]

Its way more complicated. At Taris he grew fearful that his forces took too long to capture one person, and decided that its better to annihilate the whole planet than let her escape. Her capture had always been optional for him, he just didn;t want her Battle meditation in his way. On the Star Forge he thinks that Revan is jsut a shadow of himself/herself and will be annihilated by the force resistant droids. And mind that it is a whole army( we fight a few droids because of game mechanics). And medpacs are also jsut a game mechanic, lorewise medpaks don;t heal you instantly, just lightly close wounds and stop bleeding and increase your cell regeneration. So - an instant healing of all physical wounds on your body is a major advantage in his fight against Revan.

[@AkosKovacs.Author.Musician]

Lorelei Yeah the problem is that many thing you mentioned is more of a speculation.There were no novelization of the game back then. From the dialog he come through just that petty. Yes we can say medpack and draining representation is just game mechanic but Jen's description of his fighting style is based on what we see in the game.So why accepting that but not the rest? if there would've been a novel then it would've happened like that you said.We could've some insight into Malak's mindset I would've accept that but there isn't. For me Malak always came through as pathetic and petty than competent.

[@kiadisandwich1836]

This is perhaps the second best versus series to date. You really promoted Malak, which we can all agree is something that he needed. Your interpretation of Yoda is spot on, and I don't think he is the greatest duelist of his time (I personally think Kenobi and Windu are superior to him as swordsmen). P.S. Do you think that there's anyone in Star Wars who could penetrate Kenobi's defence?

[@crazytuffandco.]

Sidious most likely, bane (because i believe that in pure defence zannah is kenobi's superior), maybe nihilis because like dooku he is a form 2 specialist, dooku (form two beats form 3, though it wouldn't be fast.

[@kiadisandwich1836]

Sidious doesn't have the technical sophistication to break through. Zannah, at most, is 2 tiers below Kenobi, and her defensive capabilities haven't been raised to anywhere near Kenobi's level--Bane isn't touching Kenobi. Nihlius is feat less, and he isn't really that skilled. Dooku vs Kenobi would end in impasse, or perhaps a very small victory for Kenobi.

[@kiadisandwich1836]

The best, in my opinion, is either Mace and Obi vs Bane and Zannah, Mace Windu vs Luke skywalker. Yes, I do watch his videos... On occasion.

[@kiadisandwich1836]

*****​ what's your favourite?

[@kiadisandwich1836]

***** not bad picks. I'm still longing to see Plagueis vs Caedus

[@RichardKorraKenobi]

Good Job man loved it this your best Versus video yet and loved how you portray Malak keep up the good work

[@matthewmann8969]

Unless you are Sidious, Skywalker, Merek, Or Abeloth then you are not a threat to Yoda

[@yrooxrksvi7142]

Enough with overhyping Starkiller

[@TrajGreekFire]

How is Marek on the same level

[@chrispenning2378]

If Yoda uses the force as a blunt instrument, explain all the sick trick flips :P Great video though!

[@voji4407]

Lmao, Malak vs Yoda. Why was this a versus in the first place?

[@YousufKhanPR]

I know right!

[@Spellshot693]

Malek isn't that far off from Yoda. If you listened throughout the video, Jensaari explains how similar they are and why Malek is ranked where he is in the community. He's constantly being compared to Revan, which is understandable as you are Revan facing Malek in KOTOR 1 (I think. I unfortunately have not played the game.) While I personally believe that Revan is himself an incredible duelist and force wielder, in fact he's my favorite character, I will concede that he could probably not beat Yoda, though I'm no expert so take it with a pinch of salt. Revan beat Malek through tactical ingenuity, not through martial might, as Drew Karpynshan has admitted that Malek is a better duelist than Revan. So if you take away the primary advantage of Malek's opponent and pit him against someone like Yoda, with his relatively straightforward, albeit powerful offense, he stands a fair chance.

[@OOCMonster]

When you play the game, that final conflict is the most favorable conditions you can imagine for Malak. He's a dark side users aboard a nexus of dark side power, able to completely restore himself by draining the Jedi he has imprisoned. Revan has to beat him in these unfavorable conditions, then he finds out about the prisoners, then he has to kill the prisoners while still under attack, and then he has to finish him off once the prisoners are gone (still in a nexus of dark side energy). Revan won that fight. He'd have no problem on neutral ground.

[@voji4407]

Tanner Lowrie No, not at all. None of that proved anything.

[@CrypticParad0x]

+Tanner Lowrie Malak is an underwhelming pushover who played second fiddle to Revan his whole life and had to rely on back-stabs and tricks and had to absorb the power of captive Jedi just to stand a chance against Revan and he still got fucked.

[@MrMarinus18]

I think that scene in revenge of the sith where Yoda grabs his chest had nothing to do with his physicality. It was his heart breaking as he could feel the jedi being killed. It was purely emotional, like a father who has his entire family slaughtered in front of him.

[@tylerbeckett1707]

I would be lying if I said that that I could say something that someone hasn't complemented on this video. It is a intricate piece of work that is formulated by a grand analysis from your own unique perspective. A feat that I also share and admire. I pray that in the "tundra" of Canada that you and your ponytail are doing quite well. Will be looking forward to the next matchup while I am still here. Godspeed!

[@tylerbeckett1707]

+Jensaarai1 Good to hear, but R.I.P ponytail.

[@brothersmakingmovies]

Only got to this just now, new Rebels episodes distracted me :) As always, excellent video! Malak is so often overlooked, even though he would logically be the second greatest Sith of the KOTOR Era. I also find Yoda growing more and more on me since I quite making videos myself. Again, great work :)

[@brothersmakingmovies]

+Hondo Moonrazor P.s, missed the weapons examination :P

[@That0therG]

-looks in sub box as I'm about to take a shower -Sees a [1] next to +Jensaarai1 -sits in front of my computer in boxers watching it..."screw the shower..." Love your work bro

[@Bokune9999]

"I do not wabt to meet this one in a dark alley" I found his to be hilarious... its also very true...

[@DamienMuto]

QUESTION: what were mace windu's original forms? if in order to study form 7, or make a new form 7, you need to master other styles first,... has anyone said what mace FIRST style/styles were? i doubt as a jedi initiate, he started vaapad-ing people lol

[@Jensaarai1]

From the top, we have his guaranteed foundation in Shii-Cho. Due to his inner darkness, I believe his early development paralleled Anakin's, devoting himself to Ataru, Shien, and Djem So. This is pure conjecture, but I believe Windu studied Juyo at this point, mastering Makashi, Soresu, and Niman in the process of creating Vaapad.

[@DamienMuto]

@@Jensaarai1 EXCELLENT! 👍🏿 That's a good prediction, mace with 100% love those aggressive forms. Then to temper them out with makashi and soresu giving him that sharp focus he shows when fighting, like vs palpatine. Thanks for the reply, I declare mace, the form 7 champion! 🏆

[@jestmunsta8288]

I really enjoy your versus series! I wanted to know if you would do other versus series besides Star Wars? Your analysis on different styles of fighting is seriously wicked!

[@Darthpsychonis]

Personally for me this may be your best video since Malgus vs Vader. Honestly, I was a bit weary about clicking on this video at first as I fully expected over a half hour of misguided Yoda bashing. But while I still disagree with some of your complaints about Yoda, you did a very good job in this one of explaining just why you think Yoda falls short in some areas and at the very lest I can understand where you are coming from. I also want to give you MASSIVE kudos for doing Malak justice as the character has sadly been mocked to the point of parody by Revan's overzealous fan base. I think you are spot on about Malak being the Dooku of his time. So much so that a future match up between the two sounds ideal. I know you get match up requests all the time, but that is one you might serious want to look into.

[@SuperRenegadeOutlaw]

i always looked at Malik in a weeker light perhaps because of the games but thanks to this video and the great detail that was taken to show his great knowledge of the force and the great comparison between dooku and Malik, well my respecy has grown mot just for Malik but for Jen seeing has these videos have alot of time and love spent into them.

[@mekebro27]

enjoyed watching your video, after listening to your breakdown of Yoda his strengths and weaknesses must say I hadnt looked at Yoda in that light before. Great work, as someone who doesnt know to much about the Star Wars universe listening to you and Evan1 is truly educational keep up the great work...

[@macaw377ttv]

Amazing, I have been watching your videos for a while and I would like to thank you for your work. You have come a long way in the versus series. I love how you and Evan look at your previous work and call yourselves out on your opinions in order to improve. you stand your ground on your beliefs with backup while keeping an open mind. yes I knew Yoda would win. However, I feel like I have a better analysis on Malak and Yoda. Sure the odds favored Yoda but Malak is very much in his league. Nobody should be underestimated and nothing is impossible. with that being said I hope that you, Evan, Greyjedi and Reti continue to do Star Wars justice. whether I agree with your opinions or not (which I do most of the time) I will always respect them because you guys do a great job of connecting with your viewers. you make me understand why you have your beliefs. That is the key. what has sold me is not what you do but WHY you do it. You guys obviously have a passion for Star Wars and great knowledge of its sources. keep up the good work and may the force be with you!! c:

[@davidthould8281]

Well done and great video. I have learned lot of Darth Malak from this.

[@natebush8217]

30:54 Lawl! I love Malak's little run there! It's like he's thinkin' "You go eat a bowl of poop, bitch! I'm out this piece!"

[@ohsix997]

I love your videos! You should do one featuring Antares Draco or any one of the other Imperial Knights. I'm a pretty big IK fanboy, and I'd like to see how you analyze their approach to dueling. I noticed you often reference Saga Edition stats, when available. In the Legacy book Antares Draco is CL 15. Some other listed force duelist to possibly match him up with could be Darth Azard, Wolf Sazen, Arca Jeth, Kyle Katarn and Anoon Bondara. Again, thanks for the work you put into your videos!

[@SanguinaryGuard]

Much much better analysis of yoda this time around. I agree with all points entirely but I could sense or feel your anger towards yoda in the Darth vader vs video. Again, agreed on all point and you even mentioned your bias at the time in this video. So all im trying to say is, good job on this video. I enjoyed it thoroughly.

[@dcfrank4904]

Absolutely sublime as always Jensaari. Please do not take offense for two minor details that I'm not quite convinced on. 1) The Jedi Malak had in suspended animation on the Star Forge, it was made very clear that they were for all intents and purposes dead, And Malak just prevented them from becomming one with the force. They weren't prisoners in the traditional sense, But their purpose was the same, to be basically force batteries. 2) As regards to Yoda's lightsabre abilities, One thing that I believe needs to be considered is that Yoda is quite skilled with a lightsabre, He spent centuries at the temple in both an administrative and teaching role, Not having to fight in so long it's possible that his skills in lightsabre combat waned somewhat, By the time he faced Dooku, he was very much on the backfoot, especially against a Makashi master like Count Dooku, By the time he faced Sideous though his lightsabre skills improved as he had years of active combat during the Clone Wars, while Palpatine in preparation for order 66 would practice on a regular basis, Though we never see him do so. It was noted before that Palpatine was at times hard to find when needed during the Clone Wars, and Yoda did manage to be on a level playing field with Palpatine during their fight. Though I agree Yoda's limitations played very much against him since he was around during the time where the Sith were thought excinct, he didn't train accordingly for that eventuality. But we see exceptional lightsabre skills like constantly deflecting close range rapid blaster fire from Clone Troops when on Courscant on his way to the Jedi Temple. he was definately no slouch with a Lightsabre.

[@karriesoo]

Excellent martial breakdown, as always!

[@2TCHOLMES]

5:32 You make a good point, but honestly, I'm not really sure that Yoda would really be able to effectively apply anything other than pure stage-fencing, mainly considering his stature. I actually think stage-fencing is kinda more appropriate for him, because it helps compensate for his size. But again, I understand what you're saying and respect it.

[@xnotic]

Excellent work. I am nerdgasming. Now, onto Mace Windu.

[@sjoerddz]

if only we could see these fights animated like in deathbattle, awesome video as always

[@andrewzoleta9006]

Wow really loved the description on this video and the idea of the Jedi during the galactic republic days adapting to defensive blaster techniques and losing their dueling advantage as a staged trap this sort of deep thinking explains sidious master planning and manipulation abilities (or Plaguesis) and therefore this video is very informative and precise

[@theloveofwoman8927]

you put in time and effort into this.you put in thought. you did a great job. keep up the good work!!!😊😊😊

[@gortharthegamer8572]

Very nice. That was a very good re-analysis of Yoda, and Malak's analysis is just as good. I'm content with the outcome, and if I may, I'd like to suggest Bastila Shan vs Satele Shan for a video

[@superhooper9490]

Still get shivers when he destroys Taris over Bastila. Resume the bombardment commander, wipe this pathetic planet from the face of the galaxy. Great vid man.

[@Cheesecake69bruh]

Great video, really enjoyed it and I agree with all points made.

[@TheTrickynicky13]

great video, good rounding off for yoda and for introducing Malak to your series, I agree with the verdict but Malak is still bad ass in his own right, I like his comparisons with dooku and I think a fight between them would be really interesting, keep up the good work as always bud

[@banethesithari]

I disagree with you saying Yoda isn't the greatest duellist ever. Sure there are people who would beat him in a 1v1 pure lightsaber duel but that is the case for everyone. Every duellist has their strengths and weaknesses and no matter the weakness that will play right into the hands of at least one top tier duellist. There isnt a single person inn Star was who could beat anyone in history most of the time.

[@MonkeyKingEric]

+banethesithari wow. Think this is the first time I agree with you.

[@banethesithari]

***** Sure but thats down to him being way more powerful in the force than any other sith or jedi , i think if their power was equalised and it came purely down to skill yoda would take it in a duel against luke.

[@Jordan-vr7ip]

+Wollf Myth I still don't get how luke is so powerful. He was old when he started training as a jedi and he wasn't even the chosen one?? His dueling skills can't be that good along with his force powers. If those factors are taken into consideration, they way overpowerd him with no reason behind it.

[@DoNotFuckingSubscribe]

+banethesithari damn fantastic opinion man just fantastic could not have said it better myself

[@papadragon695]

banethesithari a duel is a fight between two persons so if he's not the best at 1v1 duels than he's not the best duelist

[@balail9167]

Very good match up, dude, unexpected and surprisingly close. I must say I have a bit more respect for Malak now that I`ve seen this video. If I may, there`s a battle I wanted to see for some time now - Exar Kun Vs Darth Krayt!!! Two characters with very similar fate and common skills, yet the way they aply them couldn`t be more diffirent. I think this one could be epic! :)

[@lcjones0710]

I have to say with all of your negativity towards yoda and the TCW I seriously thought about unsubbing but you did good with this. great job

[@primemachine146]

You finally made a video after so long, and Amur meets my expectation, well done my fellow Star Wars fan

[@zaphyra-]

He was not trained on Dagobah but he still was trained on a unknown swamp world

[@nilsharms7159]

At first my compliments on a change of view or rather more balanced view on yoda. I fully agree with all you said, you did a great job doing this series - well done i find it strange that malak never really tried the strength based forms djemso and shien, which most liekly would be his strength looking at his physical capability

[@Vsmovies100]

I have not watched for a while, so I do not know when you started writing quotes in between the parts of your videos. I just wanted to say that I love it.

[@dravidrow]

at 39:50 you start to talk about the general tactical approach of the Galactic Republic's era Jedi Order to combat. Would you be interested in doing a more general analysis of the SW factions as added context for future reference in a separate faction versus series? ie: The Galactic Republic vs. The Sith Empire of the Old Republic era

[@biggerbadderbobby]

This was amazing! But please! Do a Darth Malak vs Darth Malgus!

[@HyugaBlood881]

this was a pretty good fight Jensarrai also I reccomend Darth Krayt for a fighter

[@ariesstorm9577]

I cannot wait to watch this when I get home from work tonight

[@edwaiwood2416]

Now that you have the script for Malak, why not Malak vs Shaak Ti, you made a reference to her shared taste for the Makashi Ataru hybrid. Plus I think while she would put up a good fight, all the odds stack in Revan's favor if Shaak Ti confronted him. Malak vs Ti would be more balanced, both utilizing a broader array of force powers than just speed push and lightning. If you do please credit malak with force suppression, as a kotor player I can tell you he used it constantly to nullify force speed, valor, armor, etc. Also Malak is fully capable of the documented power of force immunity which can nullify all force attacks except for force push for a brief time: I've done it, and the videos confirm it. RECENT EDIT: Now watching the video more carefully, I can see myself Malak's credibility with force suppression 9:28, you mentioned Dark Healing, the next mentioned ability is force suppression, WHY THE HECK did you not credit him with this power?

[@matthiasfischer4436]

please do Oppo Rancisis vs. Plo Koon these two are my favourite Jedi, it would be so cool to see them fight against each other

[@sWalloW564]

May I suggest Darth Vader vs Vodo-Siosk Bass, I have my opinions but would love to hear yours

[@L_Eres]

Can you make Darth Sidius VS. Marka Ragnos video? That would be awesome.

[@joedirt6318]

Great video! You should do Anakin Skywalker vs Galen Marek at some point.

[@tiredjediknight3110]

Anakin.

[@Slow_Drowned]

Having listened to your arguments for Yoda's viability as a fighter and force user I'm left with a question, how do you think Yoda would fair against an opponent like Darth Zannah? Would love to hear your thoughts.

[@Slow_Drowned]

Many thanks for taking the time to respond to my question, I really appreciate it.

[@dreadkalibur1613]

Hey will you be able use thoses from SWTOR: KoET like Arcann or Vailyn? I'm curious how the Emperor/Empress of the Eternal throne would far facing Yoda or Anakin? Not to mention a full synopsis of Valkerion/Tenebrae/Sith Emperor as a combative? Either way have fun and keep up the great work!!

[@nasiquedayes4805]

yoda or ani should beat arcann or vaylin Handley though anakin gets thrashed by there father vitiate yoda should give vit the fight of his life before going down imo

[@Richardyu678]

Interesting versus!

[@stephenjedi]

Very good analysis of both characters. I was on the edge of my seat throughout the entire video as I had no idea who would win. P. S. What show was that Greek/Roman-looking battle from? It looks like Game of Thrones, but I'm pretty sure it isn't.

[@hectoraliegbe9429]

It was from the movie "Troy", which is a 2004 retelling of the Ancient Greek Epic Poem it is based upon known as "The Iliad".

[@Ronfost89]

If it hasn't been done yet I DARE YOU to do Luke vs Yoda.

[@tiredjediknight3110]

If we're talking GM Luke then he wins.

[@tweso1499]

I miss the Darth Vader vs Yoda video. anyways, you should do Darth Malak vs Count Dooku.

[@89Firegod]

I have more respect for Yoda's lightsaber dueling than I did, but since watching your videos I thought Yoda's skills have been slightly overestimated, and I still do to an extent. I was proved wrong by the same guy who convinced Yoda wasn't as great he was cracked up to be. Thanks Jensaarai, Vader is still my favorite though.

[@mareczek00713]

BTW: Maybe Corran Horn vs Darth Zannah? It would be an interesting duel since big deal of it would be fought inside their minds instead of battlefield since Zannah is a sorceress while Horn mental techniques were both sneaky and powerful, after all he was able to break through enemy defence during combat (Saraai-kar duel), deceive a sith lord (planting vision in Streen mind so Exar Kun finished his attack without actually accomplishing anything) and while he realized he can't defend from Exar Kun mind attack he broke his defense and basically read Exar Kun's thoughts while the sith was reading his (and Exar Kun didn't even realized he was scanned) - and all that while only learning Force techniques for a short time, basically having a fresh padavan training :)

[@chefdean7257]

Excellent Analysis as per usual ! . . . Ergo, expounding said research; Mace Windu & Shaak Ti V Darth Malak & Asajj Ventress . . . ? ;-)

[@delaghetto123]

Where was the quote from anakin speaking on yoda's teaching of techniques drawn from? I would love to see the full conversation on that. In my experience it is rare to hear what other masters criticize yoda on and would to see more.

[@andrewzoleta9006]

Love the videos

[@Feenix102]

Mmm, my history of forms is a little rusty, but would Djem So have been available to Malak? Because I don't see the acrobatic elements of Ataru in his style particularly, while he does seem to be a hard hitter.

[@forthwalled]

I would love to see a match with Xesh the force hound, perhaps against Galen Marek or Mara Jade. I've also been trying to think of a good match for Jaina Solo but can't for the life of me think of a good one. Thoughts?

[@HyugaBlood881]

hey Jensaarai1 here's a fight idea for u: Mara Jade Skywalker vs Asajj Ventress if u think it would work or would'nt work i would like to hear ur reasons either way

[@snortingnesquik3470]

How about pit Anakin, with his young and able body, but also with the knowledge and abilities he gained as Darth Vader, against Yoda, with all his abilities and knowledge, but still with his younger body and energy?

[@TheDixieBassMan]

Then by that logic you need to give Dooku his phiyical prime and his level of power and skill as Tyranus in which case no one short of sidious has a hope in hell in that era.

[@TheDixieBassMan]

Also that makes no sense as while Dooku’s weakness came from time, Anakin’s skill would have been a slightly more controlled significantly weaker version of himself at nightfall. Anakin only developed those skills and powers he had as Vader as a result of his injuries and the limitations of his suit.

[@SweetLittleAki]

Could you please put Darth Talon in a video? Perhaps Talon vs Ventress. I would just really want to see your views on the crimson lady of the sith. :3

[@tiredjediknight3110]

Ventress would defeat Talon in a 1v1

[@JakeyyJJGaming]

23:56 The reason he lost his physical attributes in the 30 years of time between the films was most likely because he went into hiding and had no physical training since, then Luke Skywalker came along and he knew he had to use the rest of the energy he had to train him. He probably would have survived a bit longer if Luke Skywalker had not come along or if he had have stayed in good physical condition.

[@TheStronggeek]

fantastic VS video i rely enjoy them :D if you ever consider doing one with Ki Adi Mundi plz "just do it!" I want to know your assessment on his abilities! :)

[@dmstantastic3653]

Please please please do an older Obiwan vs Palpatine a what if VS as I feel all the other VS guys lack the complexity of thought that you do to be able to properly age a Jedi.

[@911couple5]

made my day when i saw a new video of yours