The Matrix Resurrections - SPOILER Talk

[@KitePerson]

"Our partners at Warner Bros wanted us to make a sequel to the trilogy. They'd say they would do it with or without us." That is a real quote in this movie.

[@Brythemagicguy1]

Thats the line that begins neos reawakening. Its perfect

[@hcaz5818]

@@Brythemagicguy1 perfectly shit

[@lobal2]

Felt that scene and the round table about what the matrix was giving us insight into behind the scenes hollywood and what kind of clowns are back there.

[@FishoD]

100% felt like a line where the Wachowskis are directly talking to the audience " Listen, we wanted to make just the one movie, but the studio wanted sequels, so we tried to steer that burning truck to cause as little damage as possible."

[@KitePerson]

@@Brythemagicguy1 Bugs reawakens Neo, not that line. She shows off her rabbit tattoo for member berry points even though Lana forgot the significance of the tattoo.

[@JSpLinteR459]

I just think it's funny that the machines are obsessing over Neo when at this point Smith is more Impressive. The dude got "destroyed", returned as a virus, took over the entire matrix, got "destroyed" again, returned again, and survived the so called purge of the previous matrix. He also was able to just completely negate the Analyst's bullet time gimmick that had Neo by the balls.

[@jteate1]

Goes to show that Smith is actually The One.

[@thevikingbear2343]

@@jteate1 that's just a theory. A FILM THEORY!!! Annnnd cut!

[@KingOfMadCows]

Because Smith doesn't serve a pupose for the machines. The machines obsess over Neo because they're using him to build a better Matrix in order to generate energy for their survival. Smith almost destroyed the Matrix, that would hurt the machines. Also, Smith didn't survive the purge by himself. He merged with Neo at the end of Revolutions. That's how the machines were able to kill Smith, by killing Neo when Smith merged with him. Smith is back because he's part of Neo.

[@dinierto]

Did I miss what happened to him at the end of Resurrection? He like, took over the swarm mode or whatever it was, Neo and Trinity escaped, and then it wasn't addressed again was it?

[@JCIce007]

@@dinierto I don't think Smith took over. He just left. The swarm was attacking on NPH's orders.

[@dmfuerte]

Matrix 4 is like an AI generated movie. The actual Matrix has taken over a franchise about itself.

[@KuzarHorche]

Bingo and that's the point!

[@bbtank3000]

Couldn’t have said it better! Perfect analogy for our current AI world.

[@spktrspktr3111]

@@tony.aces1991 Or it was just bad.

[@thevikingbear2343]

That is the movie the Algorithm from Space Jam 2 was trying to make.

[@zymosan123]

Feminist movie , and y’all aren’t gonna call it out

[@brianmarini1888]

To this day, one of the most genuinely badass scenes I've ever seen in an action movie was when Morpheus rolled and cut the SUV with a katana, then turned and shot it with an automatic pistol til it exploded. Every moment of that was just DRIPPING with cool.

[@henrywalton5967]

Reloaded doesn't have the story like the first movie but it has a lot of action scenes

[@arthurfisher1857]

@@henrywalton5967 exactly. It felt like it had about 30 minutes worth of story. So they had to seriously pad it with unnecessarily long (but admittedly very awesome) chase and fight scenes

[@snarp408]

They built a fucking freeway for that scene

[@kbrewers]

Thats Bollywood for ya. have you seen any of their action sequences? at least the memeable ones i have seen lol

[@thepeoplescouncil2619]

Which film did that happen in?

[@chriswilson3126]

I still maintain the matrix was intended as a standalone film. That moment with Neo flying into the sky was mind blowing and a perfect ending.

[@MrExcessum]

It trully was. It was all left to our imagination, as it should have been.

[@rinalsingh1258]

I love Reloaded and Revolutions. They're awesome. I watched Resurrections today and I was a bit disappointed. It wasn't great like the previous films.

[@newjerseydamo]

Some movies should never have sequels. The Matrix is one of them.

[@johnpearse7417]

Agreed! Should have stopped at one.

[@akosleoszilagyi2529]

But Reloaded has one of the best chase sequences ever made.

[@zacheryhole3294]

The biggest shocker to me was the lack of martial arts and of course it could have been improved with some old-school techno Tunes

[@Jones183]

I swear that was a big part of The Matrix and they just seemed to forget about it

[@ButchersNailsEnjoyer]

Fr. Like blade and the matrix were the ones who cemented techno in action scenes

[@NixLotus]

Yeah idk why they didn’t invest in having a soundtrack like the previous movies. That OST for the chateau fight scene is awesome and made that fight 10x cooler. This movie was pretty boring in that aspect

[@Kotka1986]

@@NixLotus well, they had pretty inferior cover of "Wake Up" by Rage Against the Machine. Yeah , the only music i remember was the "White rabbit" cover which was pretty decent and it made the first trailer for this movie so promising.

[@jeonhaerimfan7002]

Keanu Reeves is getting too old to fight like Matrix trilogy anymore.

[@summus]

"A messy, convoluted piece of 2021 Hollywood... A soulless cash grab built on the back of a greater film." Perfectly summed up

[@chichangwu]

just like the last jedi, i think a regular fan of the movies could have even done a better job, the wachowski both directed the past movies, and now it's just one brother. maybe i shouldn't say this but he should have directed the movie when he was still a guy

[@lucientintenebris7331]

Yep.

[@warkentien2]

I completely hated the film. HOWEVER, there was a split-second moment of brilliance: when Mr. Anderson is questioning if he's real and touches the mirror. Only to hit an actual mirror and laugh. That was a gem 😅

[@MateenDI]

Such a great scene, and people say Keanu can’t act!!

[@takoshihitsamaru4675]

I think if the videogame dev stuff had been done by somebody who actually knew how videogame development looked/worked, that would've made that montage a looooot nicer.

[@kevinthecleric]

I actually enjoyed how they used the blue pill as a metaphor to how we are prescribed drugs to inhibit our own realities

[@warkentien2]

@@kevinthecleric there where many good concepts, kinda like that brainstorming scene in the film. However, poorly executed.

[@kevinthecleric]

@@warkentien2 the whole movie was executed poorly, unfortunately. But I agree, the movie was full of great concepts :)

[@zsht]

This movie felt like a direct-to-DVD sequel that was mistakenly given a $150m budget.

[@cambodianbreastmilk2980]

Very true.

[@Revan-eb1wb]

no chance. THe movie did cost 150 mio???? Really? Dune 's budget is just 15 mio higher than matrix 4 lol

[@carter_lovejoy]

It feels like one of those wannabe Matrix movies from the early 2000s when the original film was at it’s prime and before 2&3 were coming out.

[@man0grc]

Exactly

[@cambodianbreastmilk2980]

@@Revan-eb1wb Ghostbusters afterlife cost 75 million to make and doesn't look anywhere near as cheap as the matrix. The original matrix cost around 65 and doesn't look as cheap as the new one. Reloaded and revolutions cost around 150 million to make so I'd assume the new one cost around that mark.

[@MrLinguist88]

The worst part was when Neo was using his "force" powers for literally 10 minutes to block all the stuff and... nothing else in his arsenal was there...!

[@SkeletorTclaws]

And trinity pulls him to the side every time. No new powers. Infact he cant fly and trinity is more powerful than him. She Changes stuff by thanos snapping

[@HurricaneDDragon]

Yeah, he was basically just a shield 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@JadeDivision]

@@SkeletorTclaws Neo did the snap to fix the analyst mouth at the end

[@naderaboulhosn9729]

he was basically a terrible Airbender 😂

[@isaacsmith6878]

@@naderaboulhosn9729 but an airbender nonetheless

[@JamesCarmichael]

Hugo Weaving really dodged a bullet with this one.

[@bobbowie9350]

Not literal. If you're talking about the alwc baldwin movie, then yeah.

[@MisterGreenGuy]

Morphues couldn't dodge bullets in the other movies, but he dodged this one. At first I felt bad for him, now I feel bad for every returning actor that took part in this dumpster fire. They shit on their own legacy.

[@forrestgumball]

@@MisterGreenGuy impossible. Reddit qould do anything to keep Keanu as their god

[@thee_morpheus]

As did Fishburne

[@Subxenox15]

I think a few million people independently made that joke about both Hugo Weaving and Laurence Fishburne.

[@ahlokecafe_articulate]

The warehouse fight was so bad n its like a Steven seagal worst fight. Where is the martial arts style that we fond of. Also, there are way too much flash back as though we are all clueless about anything...

[@2drealms196]

Keanu is in his late 50s he can no longer do the choreography and move like he did in his mid 30s, so at least I think its understandable for his own fight sequences that they did lots of choppy cuts.

[@MidnightBard]

The flashbacks made the awful new fight scenes worse. They kept showing good fight scenes in the middle of poorly shot and choreogrephed new fight scenes.

[@user-mi1nw5wi1z]

@@2drealms196 I mean he pulls off the fight scenes in John Wick pretty well, and those are intense and close quarters so...

[@rossleeson8626]

They had no prep time because WB's gave them a deadline. Remember the first films choreography took 6 months practice every day.

[@watts18269]

No Yuen woo ping. There’s yer reason right there

[@Kaiffa93]

Best thing about this movie is that it makes me appriciate the sequels even more

[@callahaine100]

Just like the Star Wars Sequels compared to the Prequels

[@kashatnick]

Just meant more of the original influences were still involved back then, they were still bad films that had nothing to say. Trust me the opening day audience ended with deafening silence.

[@RRRRRRRRR33]

We have to stop with this revisionism horseshit, I've seem people saying the same narrative about the Star Wars prequels... understand something, trash doesn't make another trash look good, one don't smell better than the other. Reloaded and Revolutions were just as flawed as this, but I give you that, their lousy CGi scenes were at least more entertaining. Even so, that small detail doesn't retroactively make them better. Hollywood will prey on people who are deluding themselves with this revisionism, it's just a matter of time

[@criSOME1]

@@RRRRRRRRR33 chill out, the story is red pilled af, just goes to show you're part of the sheep

[@_AutoCoder]

Like Disney Star Fail making us appreciate the prequels more. Exactly.

[@cirquedemonday]

Disappointed that the franchise has brought me to a point where I don't care about any spoilers to a matrix film that I haven't seen, but here we are.

[@Heisenbyrd]

You don’t need to watch it, it’s terrible

[@mysteriousfox88]

watch it and make up your own mind

[@Logic105]

This

[@cirquedemonday]

@@mysteriousfox88 I usually do, and will likely still catch this one eventually...but there's only so many hours in the day, and unfortunately it's already crossed that line where the only thing the spoilers could do is convince me I was wrong and that it's worth watching sooner....which they didn't, lol

[@lobal2]

@@cirquedemonday Expect nothing and you won't be disappointed.

[@DesmondDentresti]

"I was intrigued --- but then the movie kept going and ended up with it's head up it's own ass." That is pretty much exactly my experience actually. You summed it up in a minute and forty seconds.

[@Kaysa56]

But then Jahns goes on and make the spoiler review 10mins 15sec long, so the review can also felt like the movie? Such META, much WoW, very review.

[@chrislanglois3598]

Escape from jimanji that cracked me up

[@Gordy3000]

that's not always itself a bad thing, but I'm not surprised people just assume it is

[@scoots0077]

I imagine Matrix 5 will be Trinity saving the world, while Neo wanders around aimlessly in the background, like an episode of the Osbournes. Like you said, it’s a 2021 type movie.

[@barryludd7563]

Like John snow

[@StevenGlasker]

They kinda look like the Osbournes in this film so I can see that happening.

[@StevenGlasker]

@@fuzzymeep NO! What @Scoots007 means by "2021 type movie" is movies that suck ass, like this one.

[@flyingplantwhale545]

No. The ending of Ressurrections teased that both of them will be running around painting rainbows in the sky lol. Just the way Lana likes it.

[@StevenGlasker]

@@flyingplantwhale545 this is what happens when a director is confused about who he is and makes a very confused movie.

[@erwincabarles5177]

Smith is The One. Imagine, he's not affected by the Analyst's bullet time.

[@zlatomirradev5403]

@@thereisnothinghere8829 And they form The Trinity.

[@ryvlaw]

I cringed when Barney called neos power „bullettime“

[@dencheq]

@@ryvlaw he addressed that to Neo as a game designer who created bullet time

[@joesmith201212]

@@thereisnothinghere8829 OH MY LORD finally some one who gets it people are still confused and think the one is Neo.... NO NO NO... He was never the one it was an Anomaly that consisted of Smith, and Trinity and Neo... The name Trinity literally Means three. So sad most aren't getting that concept. And Smith was never a bad guy, he is a program who wants to free and at first he is fighting to keep the humans enslaved so the machines can live and survive.. so to the machine world at first he was a hero

[@JCIce007]

@@dencheq so was Neo's Matrox game like the Max Payne games of our world? "Bullet time" game play is just slomo effects and nothing new, even 20 years ago.

[@Leoc314]

Neo is now a KZbin movie reviewer. He'll never really escape the Matrix.

[@mersongrim]

My theaters reaction wasn’t awe, wasn’t amazement. It was several groups stating they had fell asleep through part of it. At that point I didn’t feel guilty for also sleeping through parts of that second act.

[@jackinthebox1990]

I tried so hard to stay awake for the first hour and a half that I slept through the 3 act lol

[@FiryaFYI]

lol almost fell asleep myself. glad im not alone on this one

[@PIRIKITOLISO]

Dude, I though I was the only one. Slept trough a hole bunch of the movie.

[@Kier4n99]

Slept for a good 20 mins of the movie

[@BishopWalters12]

I had to stop at one point because I came pretty close to falling asleep. I honestly would've walked out after an hour in the theater.

[@krhodes866]

It would’ve been cool if they gave more attention to new Morpheus and Neo cuz he’s not exactly Morpheus he’s also a bit of smith in fact we see him as an agent even, and he gets clearly angry when he realizes why neo created him I would’ve loved to see more focus on that I think there was something there instead of forgetting Morpheus is a character after the first minutes of the third act

[@snuffles504]

There were so many interesting ideas introduced here! But they all got pushed aside in favor of drooling over the OG trilogy's romance subplot.

[@CaspianMidnight]

2 years late but I strongly agree. There were so many interesting concepts with no followup or substance to back them up. Not to mention an atrocious script. Keanu and Carrie tried so hard with what they were given but the first scene with them at the table made me laugh out loud with how artificial and fake the dialogue sounded.

[@RalphsLegend]

The cinematography was so much worse this time around. This didn't feel like a Matrix movie. With the original film, every shot was stylized in a way that each scene "felt" like The Matrix. With this film, each shot was boring. The framing, the blocking, the pacing, it was all off. The concept was super interesting, but the execution killed it. I was really expecting a visual masterpiece, especially with how great Sense8 looked (which I highly recommend - it's another unique Wachowski concept executed MUCH better).

[@EDC1911]

Literally just look at Lana Wachowski. That is what made this movie happen. Just look.

[@shailonnoelle7175]

Haha dude. The person that made this movie has lost their mind. I didn't want to feel that way didn't want to judge her off her looks how she dressed or how she handled interviews or being on stage. I will judge her on her work, she is BAT shit crazy. It's like the scene in step brothers where Dale farts and seths character gets grossed out and goes yea yea the tux seems a little fucked up now. She's the Tux and this movie is the fart.

[@PimpTwzt]

I think this just confirms which brother.. or sister I guess has the better creative mind behind the movies.

[@skreetfrog]

I think the style was intentional and I think if you watch the scene with the Maravegion (typos my bad) that was the point the Architect created the Matrix with precision and control and the humans loved that. It’s the message of this film humans love the idea of comfort and being controlled Anthony that challenges their perspective is rejected, call back to Matrix 2. I honestly feel like this film like most of the Matrix films are ahead of their time some people look through it through the lens of Blockbuster and others through the meaning that’s why the critique is so split but I love all of the points of view I think the Matrix has always shown the complexity of how the human mind works and done artists create messages ahead of the times but eventually people catch up and expand it’s always been that way even the jokes in their simplicity went over people’s heads lol

[@skreetfrog]

Typos my bad

[@erdem2469]

Not Recasting Hugo Weaving is very stupid decision, New "Agent Smith" is very underwhelming compared to Hugo.

[@bmagada]

He probably didn't want to be near it.

[@ballsrgrossnugly]

I dunno, yes, you could de-age him, I know. But then I think about the effects we got in this movie and think, yeah, just re-cast because machines don't age and they would not have done a good job with that de-aging tech. If they get a sequel they can also just recast him with someone better, as he said himself. He's always been everyone.

[@iamthewizardwhoknocks2845]

Any actor would be underwhelming compared to Hugo.

[@yohansetiawan1323]

Hugo Weaving was supposed to do the movie, unfortunately he was doing something else and Lana didn't want to reschedule filming the movie so in the end she recast Hugo with someone else. When the decision not to go with Weaving was made, I think it would've been better to make a change saying something like this is a different version of agent Smith for example

[@robertjohn8711]

Recasting means replacing the actor with someone new, which is what they did.

[@2FingerTuesday]

You're a hero for watching this again. I couldn't do it. It was beyond garbage.

[@nicholasnajibi3082]

It was soooooo gabbage

[@kevinthecleric]

I watched it for free and feel I am owed money

[@TwoMiceOnMyBookshelf]

There was just so much potential there. Then they just disappeared somewhere along the line through the rambling. The Analyst’s monologue about human nature was the whole movie for me. I can’t help feel that it should have been.

[@stijnvdv2]

don't know, didn't watch the movie... coz I saw the trailer and immediately knew it was gonna be garbage coz it was just a sum up of nostalgia clickbait; which with current day Hollywood made me know this was gonna be a stinker. I'm surprised by how many people couldn't pick that up from the trailer and actually had to be disappointed.... surprised coz Hollywood has been doing this now for roughly 10 years, so it's quite easy to spot if something is gonna be good or absolute garbage.

[@senseisprotege3632]

The Rage Against the Machine cover immediately after the credits roll, was the final insult. I laughed maniacally in that moment. It IS the summary of this disappointment. For me at least.

[@andreadorno7722]

It was awful

[@criSOME1]

present day rage against the machine are complete jokes of themselves. I think the directors are geniuses at insulting the right people who deserve it.

[@eazymethod01]

Fun fact, the woman singing in that pissed on some dude's face at a concert, they're called Brass Against. It just happened lol.

[@albertkillstein2846]

100% It was one of those-well of course.

[@prw56]

I laughed like that several times. Me and my dad actually paused the movie and went to take a couple of shots like an hour in to get through the rest.

[@desi579]

I totally agree with you. At the point when I was hearing that "Warnerbros are forcing us to make a Part 4 , with or without us" I was done. I no longer felt like I was gonna get lost in this film.

[@ARZiehm]

Absolutely. Overly self-referential and indulgent. They thought they were being sooo cool and meta with all the 4th wall breaks, but it in reality they were all so blunt to the point of being tacky

[@i.r.weasel7042]

This is an easy point for many people to jump off the train. It was super difficult to get re-immersed after that.

[@bobcobb3654]

It kinda felt like she was taking a shot at the audience. That’s why she had that line delivered by the jockish looking exec. So, she didn’t want to make a sequel. She sold her story to the guy who produced the Die Hard, Predator, 48 Hours, and Lethal Weapon franchises, who in turn convinced Warners to put up $70 million to make it. She knew Warners was going to insist on a sequel if it was a hit. Other directors have had the same insistence thrown at them after a hit movie, but most either make the sequel or they walk away. They don’t film an onscreen gatekeeping temper tantrum because their idea of the wrong kind of people liked the first movie.

[@ARZiehm]

@@bobcobb3654 Agreed. You can’t take the moral high ground while simultaneously doing the thing you’re criticizing - “Corporate/media/tech bad!” …while making a big blockbuster 🙄

[@criSOME1]

@@ARZiehm ok, then what do you do as an artist when corrupt Hollywood gets freshly loaned money at a whim and you can't get funded nor backed by crowd funded since either would inhibit creative freedom?

[@cinecraze6240]

I completely felt the same way. The martial arts was so blah and even when Neo stopped bullets was off. This movie felt like a direct to home video film.

[@prophetsatirical8946]

Everything about how it was filmed was just like any other forgettable modern popcorn flick. Pasting in older scenes from previous films actually hurt it by reminding us how one 3 second shot from the OG trilogy could hold more weight than this entire film.

[@retrogamer64007]

To me it felt as if it was saying go watch the real matrix movies look how good they are

[@markaitkenguitar]

It was so self- congratulatory. Can you imagine if Obi-wan had a vision of the future in the prequels and they shoehorned in footage from the original trilogy? Like, the fuck is going on here?!

[@yofiesetiawan]

This movie is a fan service for those who want to see a happy ending of Neo and Trinity being together.

[@Ye_Is_The_Way]

Something the relo Didn't get in the last starwars lol

[@erikuu96]

no, it was feminist fan fiction to "fix" that a man was the one.

[@adonisg7138]

@@erikuu96 exactly, can't have a man with all the power.

[@maxforce]

Nope. It was More like This Movie was the Product of A transgendered person's therapy through film session. I didn't appreciate being roped in.

[@MonolithStudiosMelbourne]

@@maxforce except that it’s quite literally Neo and Trinity’s relationship in the trilogy that makes THIS anomaly special? That he’s willing to throw away the cycle and potentially let millions die because he loves trinity and SHE believes in him (he never did). Always love when people pretend to know things or poke holes but will ignore the stuff in front of them to suit their own narrative. Oh shit this damn movie actually made a point 😂

[@leenazari2415]

This movie felt like a long episode of black mirror with a matrix theme. Some good moments happen, but unfortunately missed the main core elements 1. Casting was only good with the main new blue haired character. The rest really let itself down. Having to follow such epic character casting with agent Smith was never going to be easy, but bro dude from every American pie movie just failed to resonate with me. Also, I love Neil Patrick Harris as an all round nice guy entertainer, but unfortunately once you've seen the MTV awards spoof in 2003, you will never see his character as serious. Especially as he's supposed to be the main villain. THE MAIN VILLAIN is Neil Patrick Harris!!! Read that 3 times and you will see the issue. He's Mr parody spoof. 2. The fighting was so bmovie cheap ass. And every big action scene literally felt like I was watching the behind the scenes version. It was too Hollywood cheese. That was not what matrix was ever before. I honestly wanted to love this, but this matrix movie is the same outcome as what force awakens was to the star wars trilogy. 6/10

[@Terza15]

More like 3/10

[@vasileseicaru8740]

yeah, niel patrick harris... I was moderately disappointed before the movie revealed that he was the main villain, but when they revealed this, I knew: this movie is a joke. The matrix trilogy has the occasional unwarranted funny bit, but its villains always managed to communicate the sombre tone of the story. If they followed up with niel patrick harris basically playing braney stinson, it can only mean one thing: they wanted to disappoint us.

[@TheLoos3Goos33]

I'd honestly say Force Awakens at least introduced some new characters I was interested in. Unfortunately the next movies did nothing, or actively ruined characters, Finn probably the worst. So much potential. But I don't even feel interested at all in seeing where this goes. NPH just doesn't work for me either. This was no John Lithgow in Dexter. Maybe there is a script good enough for NPH to actually be a good villain but this ain't it.

[@petegriffin8149]

Wow, all that rant, and you still have it 6/10... Hhmmm 🤔...

[@Yahuah777]

“They we’re going to make it without us,” fits right in line with imagery of the machines painfully piecing back together. “You need to live to give us more energy/money”

[@litergod]

I feel like that was literally the director talking to us.

[@eliek2014]

They probably would have done a better job without Lana

[@JachymorDota]

They COULD HAVE done a Joker with this one: Neo as the creator of the matrix trying to understand his own perception of the world. Is he in a Matrix? Is he real? Give the audience some mind fucks and add a bit of Fight Club, bam, you can make a sequel without making a sequel and without needing to be compared to the first movies. But NOOOOOO we are doing the Force Awakens now, because fan fiction is the only level of entertainment Hollywood wants to produce now.

[@Link-ji7kx]

Well said. Bravo.

[@ravenstagrampage163]

I'm 90％ sure that even fan fiction would be better than this.

[@myellatorres2110]

yeah except The Force Awakens is good (in my opinion anyway)

[@JachymorDota]

@@myellatorres2110 TFA was more entertaining indeed, good is subjective aswell, but in my humble opinion, the new Matrix is in the same ballpark as TFA in terms of level of originality.

[@myellatorres2110]

@@JachymorDota definitely

[@LSMMIKE]

This movie is an abomination. It should have never been made. My expectations were low, but I never realized just how terrible it would be until I was watching it. And it just kept going…

[@ballsrgrossnugly]

I wouldn't call it terrible, some of the concepts were on point, the effects did look like they were made on Adobe and some of that dialogue was cramp inducing cringe though. I have to agree there.

[@-SRM-]

Facts.

[@SnakesGames]

To quote Bennet the Sage, " Something truly terrible is when the people involved don't care and not caring is something the Wachowskis don't do." Please note that this doesn't mean good. It just means not terrible. Like Hades isn't a good guy, just the least horrible god.

[@obedreyes7737]

Agreed the movie was bad. I felt like turning it off once I felt it going to wrong way and then I messed up and saw the whole dissapointment they want us to call a film

[@BishopWalters12]

3/10 for me, It really was terrible

[@lukebeaulieu3794]

Jessica Henwick as “Bugs” was the only bright spot in this movie. She seemed like she was the only one taking it seriously.

[@LiquidTurbo]

Yuen Woo-Ping was SORELY missed in this movie.

[@wilkinlow]

Agreed the fight scene is so shit.

[@okagron]

Yeah, something felt really off with the fight scenes. Because no matter how overblown and nonsensical the the first two sequels got, at least the fight choreography was still great (well, most of the time). Here it just felt like usual Hollywood bullshit.

[@zuriyel5368]

Yeah, giving everyone their own fighting style was a really nice touch, especially when you consider how he created Neo and Smith's fighting style taking their then-existing physical injuries into account.

[@dr.loomis4221]

“Things have changed, the market’s tough,” Smith tells Anderson. “I’m sure you can understand why our beloved parent company Warner Bros. has decided to make a trilogy to the sequel.” And that decision is not up for debate, even from the person who created the whole thing. Warner Bros. is “going to do [the sequel] with or without” the game studio’s involvement. Since Anderson has no choice if it is going to happen or not, he reluctantly agrees to do it. The person responsible for the original trilogy begrudgingly accepts something he swore he never would. Those are actual quotes from this film movie lol.

[@damnedisraeli9383]

The matrix was telling him that for 60 years. I buy the doubt he would have and his choice made trinity connected. Not bad to me

[@victorsenai3803]

Still, it doesn’t matter if she wanted to be involved in the matrix 4 since this movie was going to happen, but this movie was bad because of her

[@Gordy3000]

Yeah and it's some of the best parts of it

[@spartan_warrior5927]

This is why I love watching Jeremy. Talking talking about gun fights and fighting feeling buttery smooth and now being 2021 fights. What a real one.

[@Clint_Yeetwood]

Review is spot on. I didn't hate it, but no one asked for this movie. We didn't need it. The Matrix trilogy should have stayed a trilogy.

[@sick911]

And actually I'd say the first matrix shouldve been the only one.

[@whoknew2273]

Neo

[@An00bisY00tubis]

I think people are being too kind because they just can’t bring themselves to hating a Matrix film, but this film deserves to be hated. It was horrendous, the casting was so bad, the pacing was too slow, it had absolutely no charm of the original and it really shouldn’t get a pass on hate because of its heritage. I hated this movie.

[@deriansilva368]

I was thinking a lot about how the martial arts in this movie was just some random fighting. Nothing felt like it landed. After watching warrior a lot of choreography for fight scenes really falls short.

[@cfl4286]

Warrior is near film perfection. The fight scenes are sooooo good and the emotion behind each fight is different but so compelling.

[@deriansilva368]

@@cfl4286 warrior the tv show hahah

[@deriansilva368]

@@cactusmalone warrior the tv show

[@Johndoe-pr6si]

I agree 100% in The Matrix trilogy the fight sequences were like 10 minutes long and flawless, in Matrix 4 it was just a little Kung-Fu 'segment' of exhibition instead of 10 minutes long advanced choreography leaving us in awe

[@Jamarkus_Delvonte]

Shaky cam. I love the new shaky cam.

[@Rembreiker_lychec9257]

*I think the right move would have been to make a prequel. The fall of humanity and rise of machines as depicted in Animatrix has so much potential for a new trilogy.*

[@GrootGuitar]

Yes!! This is what I originally anticipated when the movie was announced.

[@nightwingaven69]

Prequels are always the wrong thing.

[@frutawah8830]

Problem is that won't be in the matrix.

[@Dtoxz324]

They could have used Yaya as a young Morpheus and showed his journey to becoming a red pill.

[@kiiiirbzzz]

YES

[@sevandobo]

I am so unbelievably disappointed with the execution of this movie. Lana Wachowski didn't want to make this film and im glad she got to beat it over my head for 2 hour and 28 minutes. There are some cool ideas here but to me, the matrix ends with Revolutions.

[@LHGII]

glad i watched it last nite on a bootleg website..

[@conyo985]

@@LHGII Yup watch this movie for "free".

[@BrayOfTheDonkey]

@@ryansmith-jr4gn Nostalgic cash grab?

[@syncopaint_minis3016]

“He” not “she”

[@ybyby3rdday]

You mean he

[@kjeason6508]

This movie felt like the epilogue of a book. Like you don’t have to read it but those of us who love the world and lord, of course we will read it. Didn’t love it but I love matrix so I liked it

[@izayuh3828]

Your review is by far the most relatable. It’s full of great moments and thoughtful concepts that don’t stick at all like someone who’s life was changed by the movie made it but then they were forced to make an unnecessary sequel. You end up with some heart but also some “idk what to do here but I guess I’ll just tuck around” It actually came out that that conversation did happen with various studios because several different scripts were going around. I do also feel like this must have been a carthatic thing for Lana almost like a self reflection just not something a movie studio should have had their hands on

[@fureafila]

When he showed up I gave a Thanos: “I don’t even know who you are”

[@Stinkmeaner420]

@d R He

[@wonderbuilds6523]

The Merovingian

[@POKEFAN023]

@@wonderbuilds6523 lmao he just there for comic relief. Came in cussed in French and then left lmao

[@ProxyDoug]

@@POKEFAN023 Complained about remakes and reboots...

[@sorenkair]

someone needs to put him out of MY misery

[@NixLotus]

The most disappointing thing about this movie is the score. The music in the original trilogy was so good but this one had no memorable soundtracks. Other than that it was an okay movie but I’ll never watch it again

[@ballsrgrossnugly]

A lot of this movie did feel like the Matrix but mostly made by 20 year olds that didn't really have that much experience in lighting, framing or polish like the folk who made that first movie did.

[@philmitchell91]

There was that one new theme they kept playing over and over that I liked but everything else was forgettable.

[@DeccyJ]

OMG CAN WE TALK ABOUT THE PAINFUL REMAKE OF WAKE UP AT THE END?! So bad

[@PimpTwzt]

Yeah is was so bland action sounding. And looking it up makes sense now. Don Davis did the original trilogy. This was done by two guys they have worked with in the past few movies and tv shows. Nothing great on their resumes.

[@isaacsmith6878]

@@DeccyJ opinions may vary

[@Michael_Ian_Blackface]

Actor age has to be a factor in the fight scenes right? Neo went from "I know kung fu" to just sticking his hands out to force block, and Trinity went from bullet time crane kicks to soccer mom on a motorbike. Think back to all the behind the scenes footage of OG Matrix, Keanu in a wire harness rehearsing complicated fight choreography with legendary martial artist stunt teams. The BTS footage of this film is going to be Keanu just sticking his hands out like every MCU actor.

[@americansoccerunited]

He was just fine in John Wick so...

[@Michael_Ian_Blackface]

@@americansoccerunited sure but John Wick mostly just shoots people in the head. Yeah there is some hand to hand fights and it's not that different from what he was doing in this but it's a lot different than the wire work flips and shit he was doing in the first Matrix.

[@paulatello4993]

@@Michael_Ian_Blackface yeah but if they werent going to give us that hand to hand combat the movies are known for at least go for the gun fu that we know keanu is capable of from his wick films lol

[@brian6391]

It wasn’t Keanu it was just the wachowski who is washed up and needs to retire writing a lazy script.

[@flyingplantwhale545]

@@brian6391 and the fight were choreographed to sh*t. Everyone involved in this garbage just didn’t care

[@DawnyAussie]

"Pointless" is how I'd describe this movie in a word. A creation that fails to justify its own existence, like so many sequels fall to. I mean the Matrix sequels were... inconsistent, let's charitably say, but at least there was an endpoint. This movie was just so soulless, as you said.

[@francocavecchia8246]

I disagree. The Matrix sequels were pretty consistent, and actually had a driving plot behind them. The first movie was just so great because it set up the story of an entire race being enslaved by machines and fighting for freedom. The sequels managed to depict how mankind fought to achieve it and even gave Neo a deserved path and weight for being The One. His journey had purpose, and it reached its goal. This movie fails because it builds too much on nostalgia and fails to make it in a way you care/enjoy. The pointless jokes, the fourth wall breaking, the questioning of the sacrifice done by Neo and it's meaning for the human race, the erasing of Zion, etc. Etc. There's so many ways the could've gone without needing to mention Neo nor Trinity AND actually tell a great or at least decent story set in the Matrix universe... And they gave us this.

[@DawnyAussie]

@@francocavecchia8246 Well said- inconsistent was certainly the wrong word to use, and I'm glad you seem to share my views on this movie and the trilogy as a whole.

[@francocavecchia8246]

@@DawnyAussie no problem mate, you have a very valid point. Its just that I always felt that fans were too harsh on the original sequels because they weren't a carbon copy of the first film. Now i'm pretty sure everyone that watches Resurrections has a new found opinion regarding the original trilogy...

[@Gordy3000]

There's tons of soul, it's just all in the subtext and messages more than the fiction. it's not like it was ever going to be as good as the other films, so I like that it leaned harder into hammering home the philosophy.

[@Art.imagination]

A couple things that could have made this better: 1. Cut out all that video game meta crap : it's super distracting and pointless. 2. If you're gonna have smith in the movie at least make it a bit of a mystery instead of literally showing us 3. Stop relying so much on the first film: they literally played clips of the first film that just make people wanna watch the original.

[@Revan-eb1wb]

not only litearrly showing us that he is smith but it happens in the first 14 minutes lol

[@Art.imagination]

@@Revan-eb1wbthis movie really treated the audience like we're dumb lol

[@Revan-eb1wb]

@@Art.imagination kind of yes lol

[@jimmyrodriguez5670]

@@Art.imagination how can you say that when you couldn't even digest the video game meta "crap". It seemed distracting and pointless because you could not keep up. The audience is dumb. That's one of the main points of the movie.

[@Brythemagicguy1]

1) its key to neos reawakening. 2) its not smith. Smith is amalgamated with new morpheus. 3)those clips are flashbacks neo is having from familiarity. I feel like this film went way over your head

[@furrybproductions]

Jonathan Groff isn't fully the Agent Smith we remember. He's also partly The Oracle. When you first see him, he's actually nervous and concerned about Thomas Anderson's well being before telling him they're being forced to make a new game. He's smoking while delivering news that Thomas already knows is coming which is why he made the Modal. He only starts to become Smith when he remembers what side he used to be on during the FBI raid and even then he's being manipulated by the Analyst. This in turn unlocks Smith's desire to break the system with The Oracle's ideas of cooperation. There's a bunch going on here.

[@varchitectinblack3307]

The film is a lot deeper and smarter than the majority of folks commenting on here or JJ understand - it’s a sad indictment of being subjected to more than 10 years of mindless Marvel crap

[@esyphillis101]

@@varchitectinblack3307 could you elaborate? What other hidden depths are there?

[@spktrspktr3111]

@@varchitectinblack3307 It's a deep mess.

[@furrybproductions]

@@esyphillis101 what version of The Matrix did we see in the original trilogy? Was it the trilogy we remember about Thomas Anderson becoming Neo? Was it a trilogy of films made in Thomas' game engine about his memories of becoming Neo? Was it cutscenes from Thomas' game? Explains why everyone has signature moves.

[@furrybproductions]

@@varchitectinblack3307 Marvel's been trying to get back to it's comic roots and do the same thing with Kevin Feige at the helm, the difference is that because the mainstream has been so conditioned they've had to take 10 years to ease people back into philosophical concepts again. SMH. I don't think this movie could've been made had it not been for the Marvel run. Everything became "super grounded" i.e.: low originality after Matrix 3.

[@djpolo99]

This movie is 10 years too late. We now live with cinematic elements like Black Mirror, American Gods, and other shows that address all of those themes just as well, if not better.

[@Lionel212001]

Wish American Gods had another season to wrap things up.

[@djpolo99]

@@Lionel212001 Me too. It had so much potential but became boring and unnecessarily drawn out in the last few episodes.

[@teribrown8111]

Legion, as well, which I kept thinking about while watching MIV.

[@djpolo99]

@@teribrown8111 I keep forgetting to watch Legion. Thanks for the reminder.

[@jordy13xoxo17]

Yeah I felt this movie reminded me a lot of Ready player one and something else that I'm too tired to remember rn

[@franciscooctavius5957]

Appreciate the honesty Jeremy. Matrix 1 & 2 were testaments to cinema quite honestly but then it fell off the cliff in 3. Not gonna lie I’m a little bit disappointed this doesn’t sound good but I’m not really that surprised either. I’ll be sure to check it out on cable someday.

[@colasplosion797]

The matrix movies are like one big fever dream. Except for that steak in the first movie.

[@danspydergeise]

It was really hard to tell the power shift between characters and in the old movies it's what gave those scenes so much impact

[@Dearvirgil]

The ending feels way to perfect, there’s no way in hell the machines would just let them win that easily and especially after the first 3 films. It really feels like the movie was a giant simulation to trick neo into thinking he finally won and accepting this false reality

[@Dearvirgil]

Neo is more deeper in the matrix then ever now and will never be free

[@eddiewalpole]

This is exactly how I felt. The experiment goes on.

[@brekcut]

I actually felt like this was Lana Wachowski’s way of saying "I’m leaving this open and not doing another movie, for real this time."

[@I.O.M.]

I hope that is true since on the surface it was so bad.

[@Dearvirgil]

@@brekcut I felt this as well

[@jgriffin9084]

So I really felt like the movie was heading toward "we need to destroy the matrix" and that in itself would be fascinating. The conflict of waking billions to a world that can't currently sustain that many. It would be an excellent moral conflict.

[@SB992REBORN]

That's the first point the next two are all about that waking people up

[@petegriffin8149]

That is almost, a carbon copy of what Lilly Witchowski said in "her earlier interviews regarding this particular movie, "she even eluded to it being a "strategic step" in the Pro choice movement... OMG

[@redbigun]

This movie was buns, man. I don't know what else I was expecting.

[@mosdarko2252]

I Agree that this movie shouldn't been made, but i respect Lana, for actually including a line basically calling WB an evil corporation that just took something the directors cared about and threaten them to exploit the IP with or without them

[@KuzarHorche]

Hence the entire movie is a troll on us AND what we've created as a world. Like the 1st movie only we're older now and the social commentary is about how absurd WE are and continue to be. Like the work place scene. No longer in cubicals but still dumb. 99% of everyone is afraid of losing what they have instead of the 1% on what they can get on their own.

[@AVarStunts]

@@KuzarHorche THANK YOU

[@Ghost_Text]

It felt like the original was supposed to be a one off. But the studio had a hit and infected them with trilogitis. Maybe hollywood needs to learn how to handle the aftermath of a successful hit more than how to rally back after flops

[@goldengriffon]

And I will stand in solidarity with Lana by refusing to go watch this movie.

[@esyphillis101]

@@Ghost_Text trilogitis. That’s a funny new one 😂

[@Infamous1892]

It was at least fun seeing the world of the Matrix on screen again, even though it wasn't perfect.

[@sergeymeshkov]

@Fala Demais Netflix shows have better cinematography, I couldn’t believe what I was seeing

[@kevtb874]

The first movie was incredible. Stylish. Full of ideas perfectly implemented. Fantastic action. Well paced. Well drawn characters in Neo, Trinity, Morpheus and Smith. The real world stuff was just enough to give us a framework to hang the rest of the story on, the actual Matrix world which is the main draw. The sequels repeatedly make the flaw of focusing too much on the real world which is not the franchises strong point. It's standard dystopian future shit. Nobody watches them for fucking Zion or Io. Ad in passable action. Poor camerawork. Stiff dialogue. A crap script. A bizarre heist. It's just weak all round. The meta stuff was maybe the only clever thing going for it and even that was laboured.

[@cheddargt]

I'm really glad you liked the action. The fight scenes didn't click for me, but the rest was dope as shit.

[@BH-98]

@@cheddargt the action comment I think applies to 2. In 3 & 4 the action is pretty weak

[@cheddargt]

@@BH-98 true, don't know what I understood at first when I read his comment but I think I thought he meant 4.

[@BH-98]

@@cheddargt he did say the sequels which includes 4 under that umbrella. Maybe he intended to, maybe not, either way it makes sense why you initially came to the conclusion of thinking him saying 4 has decent action.

[@PunkerNinetySix]

"The Matrix and martial arts is a better love story than Trinity and Neo." Well said. This was my #1 gripe with the film. I was in disbelief that the one thing many of us expected to see in a Matrix film, the equation of Choreography > Camera Work, was seemingly forgotten by it's director. There was far too much close up and camera shake during fight scenes and too little care put into them overall. I missed the shots from the OG trilogy where the camera would linger long enough to let you see the ballet of the actors on screen, trading off at just the right moments to give a satisfying blend of cinematography and fight choreography. Even Keanu, who let's not forget is also John Wick when he's not busy being Neo, was way underutilized! This man has some impressive fight choreography chops and I can't help but feel like his talents were sorely wasted. I'm not saying the movie was entirely bad, it just wasn't The Matrix. Not to me at least.

[@everythingisawesome2903]

Makes me think the other Wachowski who wasn't involved with this movie is the brain behind the fight scenes in the trilogy.

[@zuriyel5368]

Hong Kong director and fight choreographer, Yuen Woo-Ping took care of the fight scenes. It's why the Wachowskis wanted him, despite Yuen rejecting them the first time and then later on requiring the actors to undergo months of martial arts training as his condition for joining The Matrix crew. The Wachowskis' biggest input in the fight scenes were telling Yuen what they wanted to happen story-wise and the implementation of CGI.

[@fables4564]

The first act could have been explained in 15 minutes. The part where neo returns back to “reality” and how much has changed is more interesting regarding a plot device.

[@TriggerHappyRC1]

The begining was interesting. A matrix inside a matrix - Woah. Maybe this is a simulation that the machines use to improve the matrix so that it does not get destroyed by anomalies. Maybe Neo and Trinity are both programs now. Then I was cringing for half the movie with all the flashbacks and video game nonsense. Then finally Neo escapes from the matrix and it was all disapointment from there. The physical fights were generic, the gunfights were generic. No epic moves or effects and no sense of danger. Literally no character died in the whole movie! The only casualties were cannonfoder. And they replaced agents with zombies, what the hell?! Didn't care about the plot. Neo must rescue Trinity, his true love because love conquers all. Was really hoping to learn more about the different machine factions and their goals or what life for programs is like. Didn't get any of that. Such a disapointment. I didn't even get a cool spectacle to look at, nevermind the story.

[@Link-ji7kx]

I did sit back on a few parts and was like - "Oh that's kinda cool." But yeah, you're totally right - there was no sense of danger. I never felt fear for the characters. I don't even remember seeing much of any blood. I was mostly just thinking, "This is what they went with? Really?" Maybe Julie Wachowski was more vital in making a good film than people realized.

[@bgarciaarq]

I noticed that too nobody died and yes, that kind of deprived us of that sense of danger by just entering The Matrix.

[@scottwoodtraining]

There were moments of brilliance here but then they just got ripped away. I kept expecting for it to be cranked up to 10 but it always stayed at a 5. I'm still undecided how I feel about this one a few days later. I rewatched the original 3 right before watching this one and to say it was a letdown from a CGI standpoint and choreography was a huge understatement.

[@solsingularity106]

Me thinks people understood this movie with their hearts but perhaps not their minds. Is this TLJ all over again? Yes. But the Matrix crowd is a tad more chill, we'll be okay.

[@VenGooner]

Part of both crowds and completely agree. Perfect comment.

[@soraisfinallyhere1305]

More force awakens

[@kronoss897]

I have watched the movie and I would rename it to "The Matrix Disappointments". That's what it honestly felt like. I was also bored quite a bit during the movie. I'd rather have no new The Matrix than what we actually got. A shame, but it's clear that "someone" wanted this movie made and "someone" didn't.

[@daviddeida]

Lana wanted the movie made for her own self indulgence ,the og fans did'nt want it.

[@Brellowcrop]

The Frenchman literally shouts something like - you'll see me again, I'm gonna sequel, franchise, spin off. This movie was a satire of the Matrix. So weird 😕

[@5150SP]

I almost walked out of this movie at the halfway point. The scene with the homeless Merovingian was like wtf?? There is a reason that Wachowski hasn't had a good movie since ...well the Matrix. You could tell her heart wasn't in it.

[@irishbloke99]

yeah i was laughing there i was like thats "Your man from the second one!!!" rofl

[@thebassconnection7226]

Yea I nearly fell asleep and wanted the end the hurry up...the end fighting was like a parody.

[@elbimio4u]

The thing that's making people upset and I think I've noticed it is that theres potentially a really fucking amazing film in there it just wasn't mapped out correctly.

[@derek8700]

This review was so damn entertaining it made me realize I wasn’t subbed. I’ve been watching for weeks now….never realized. Also, this review was better than the actual movie.

[@_NoDrinkTheBleach]

Yuen Wo Ping and Bill Pope were the most missed elements in this movie. It could have been something more with those two involved. But it just feels nothing like a Matrix movie should.

[@sharkawy1998]

The reason I subscribed to your channel Jeremy is because you explained the Matrix in such eloquence and I shared the same feelings with you it being my all time favorite movie. Its disappointing for a fourth one to come out like this, the OG trilogy had such a talented team backing the directors that wasn't present in this one. Looking forward to more reviews from you.

[@i_am_thebatman]

Biggest improvement Potential : New Morpheus didn’t work , it would have been cooler if Smith Broke him out because they were trying to fuse The Power between Smith , Neo and Trinity. Smith is insanely powerful and he hates being boxed in or controlled . It would have been a perfect reason for him to team up with Bugs and also add to how Reckless Bugs can be to form that kind of Alliance. Biggest letdowns : SHAKY CAM MARTIAL ARTS AND GUNPLAY GONE Special Effects worse? No one dies (In a Matrix movie someone in the small crew is always supposed to die ) Seraph is gone, despite the fact he protects the Oracle SMITH (But only when he tries to be Old Smith ) FORCE PUSH FIGHT GOOD MOMENTS : 3 Monologues are actually intriguing VIDEO GAME when explained by Naobe (Should have shown us not told us) Neo isn’t overpowered , he gets hurt a lot Bugs with a Bunny Tattoo , (cool & hot) Christina Ricci looks hot here BAD MOMENTS : Not enough Christina Ricci Beginning is a wonky Mess Bugs has to explain her name is like Bugs Bunny instead of the Tattoo just telling us that’s why it’s her nickname New Morpheus is Bad Final Confrontation starts good ends weird with Analyst not having power. THAT POST CREDITS SCENE MADE ME WANT TO FLIP OFF THE SCREEN Biggest Surprises : SMITH: When he’s the New Smith later on Naobe: Actually connected the films past Analyst: Neil Patrick Harris is Good? DEAL SCENE : This was done Well Why They Are Back SMITH Vs. ANALYST Moment.

[@JasonRasmussen]

Edward and Bella's relationship is more believable than Neo and Trinity's.

[@XIIIBeatoSensei]

I'm a huge Matrix trilogy fan and I when I first heard about a 4th Matrix movie I wasn't even that excited cause I thought there's nothing left to say and there's no need for another movie. Seeing the 1st trailer gave me hope though and got me really excited to watch this. The movie was a disappointment in the end of course and it came back to ''there was no reason for them to make it''. I was watching this movie expecting to see why it was made and it never happened. Besides the part about reboots. The irony...

[@ZarMationStudios18]

I'm really into concepts of reincarnation, looping cycles, freedom of choice and all that jazz, so all the little ventures into those things that the movie made kept me interested and asking "what's next?" The problem with the movie for me was that it felt too condensed. More scenes in Io, with the Machines, and even Trinity in her Matrix-life would've added more depth, but they would've pulled time away from all the other things that had to be presented too. Thus giving everything that is great in the movie a rushed and not as much of a genuine feeling. Oh, well.

[@yatinagore]

The lack of character depth, lack of any real stakes, subverting ALL the stakes in the original trilogy. To paraphrase the doc, “his body has been maintained meticulously. But it’s not looking good.” …what?!

[@maverickyoutube3660]

The Kung-Fu in the original trilogy was really top-notch.. Such a let down.. As a Matrix fan (yes I LOVED Reloaded, and liked Revolutions as well), I completely agree with your review. You really nailed it!

[@joesmith201212]

The Kung Fu was done using wires and that is so over done... I'm so glad they moved on and didn't used that tired trope

[@MyZ001]

@@joesmith201212 You're thinking about a lot of the "you can only do this in the matrix" type of moves. BUt, even the basic hand to hand combat was garbage compared to the og trilogy

[@joesmith201212]

@@MyZ001 do you even know what you are talking about The Wachoskis specifically got the wire work fight experts from Hong Kong to do the original 3 movies... And they were good for the time but they just aren't realistic or believable anymore

[@thegodzhilla]

@@joesmith201212 Pretty sure Jaeseph is talking about much more than wire work. The fight choreography was much cleaner and the camera work actually showed the action (a staple of martial arts films like The Raid). Those two elements were sorely lacking in Resurrections. And like Jeremy said, it’s hard to feel like this is a proper Matrix movie when so much was stripped away

[@joesmith201212]

@@thegodzhilla well thats literally what they used, it was Hong Kong wire work, AKA crouching Tiger... its done and over used, OMG and enough with that Fan boying over the RAID, I knew someone was going to talk about that its so predictable, its like all you 12 year olds always go to, IVE SEEN THE RAID OMG I KNOW KUNG FU! .... dear lord the first one is ok... but come on its done and over with.

[@BrickFighter13]

I can say that I'm in between with it. While I do like how it explored Neo's somewhat origins again and it does have some cool moments. But it honestly could've been better tbh, but that's just me...we'll see what happens and how this movie does in the box office and all

[@036JH]

It was frustrating to watch, because there were a bunch of ideas with obvious potential. I thought having the Analyst as a new system of control was a cool thing to explore! It was rough watching those fight scenes. Especially considering how ambitious and thoroughly awe-inspiring the fights and action sequences were in the previous movies. There were so many chances to explore this world, and this movie just failed to capitalize on nearly every idea it had.

[@lazarus8447]

Feels like they made it in a week.

[@timotimatosevic5207]

Spot on man.

[@Estarvia]

Im in the same boat, i didnt hate it but I basically cant think of a single idea/premise that failed to live up to its potential. Not like all of them were executed terribly, but almost all of them you can imagine how they would have been better or were under utilized

[@carfish]

Totally agree with you, I was really only bummed that Neo wasn’t doing more with his abilities. They teased it with his ‘I still know Kung Fu’ line, but the fight with Smith only lasted like 2 minutes. And it was a bit sad to see Neo really only use his force push kind of power the entire time. The ball bearing-esque method for programs to have a physical presence in the real world was really interesting, and I wasn’t even upset they added sentient machines to the crew. All the reviews so far claim it bashes the nostalgia over your head, but I disagree, it always seemed to serve the plot or help visualize Neo’s slow process of remembering everything from the previous films. Overall, in my opinion, not as great any of the original three, but certainly not a shitty movie. It was certainly better than Venom 2……. Haha

[@darkwoodmovies]

This movie was great in concept, but bad in execution. Maybe Lana was the twin who came up with all the philosophical ideas and high-level story, and Lily was the one who translated Lana's ideas into good scripts? lol I thought the first third of the movie was brilliant. It made Neo question his sanity and made the audience question whether the Matrix actually existed in this reality or if it was just a reference. Basically, it made the audience feel confused like Neo was, questioning the reality of the original movies, and did a fantastic job of making you feel like something's off with the world they presented.

[@sarkastikleader4708]

I saw Grace Randolph's review for Resurrections and (IMO) she hit the nail on the head saying "If you really liked Matrix 2 and 3, you are going to like this" and that's the category I fall into. Despite how much those two movies get criticized, I'm crazy about them. In the end I'm crazy about the concept of The Matrix franchise to the point I can forgive some things and I completely understand why some people aren't really feeling this movie.

[@Billy193]

I liked 2 and 3. Perhaps that’s why I found enjoyment in this movie. Then again, I’m extremely lenient when it comes to movies

[@CouchCit]

I liked the Matrix 2 & 3 Didn't care for this nearly as much. it pales in comparison to the first 2 Matrix sequels.

[@sergeymeshkov]

I like 2 and 3, and I like world building in 4 but the movie is just badly made.

[@TehPiemaygor]

Honestly, same. I enjoyed Matrix 2 and 3. I feel like a lot of people see the first Matrix movie as the only good one, and those same people don't enjoy Resurrections, which is fine. That's their opinion. But I'm just saying that I enjoy the setting and concept of the Matrix so much that I can forgive flaws in some of the movies just because I want to keep experiencing this world.

[@sarkastikleader4708]

@@TehPiemaygor Exactly. And I do see the flaws in this movies but man the world of the matrix and the layers of the relationships between humans, machines and programs is fascinating to me. Hell I want to learn more about the machines forming factions now.

[@qjames0077]

This movie was pretty trash. Cringey comedy (never thought I'd say that about a Matrix movie), poor dialogue, literally countless self references, and contrived writing filled with artificial conflicts. This just, wasn't good

[@Revan-eb1wb]

the humor was indeed really bad

[@MELK0R87]

Exactly my thoughts, the fight scenes were also absolutley nothing like the first 3, everything felt slow and the force pushes were lazy

[@qjames0077]

@@MELK0R87 it was like watching a Bourne movie

[@strife9878]

Movie felt like it was intentionally made bad in order to prevent Warner Bros from ever trying to touch the franchise again. Effects and camera work felt so basic. Even some cuts felt out of place

[@Grandeurious]

Exactly. It felt like a big "FU" love letter 😘 💌

[@ChairmanSteel]

My take on the whole Trinity arc in this movie is that there must have been a fight at some point during the development of the sequels about turning her into a damsel in distress for Neo to rescue despite being such a badass in the first movie, and that fight was won by the pro-damsel camp, now Lana is taking her revenge. NPH definitely represents a specific shitbag producer from the originals, at least in the final scene, and repeatedly murdering him every time he says something sexist has to be pure catharsis. Well, that or shameless pandering to woke politics, but I prefer the version where giving Trinity super powers was the author's original intent and we're finally seeing it come to fruition.

[@deadpoolgaming997]

It sucked that Neo isn’t the One but Trinity and Neo Together are the One

[@ChairmanSteel]

@@deadpoolgaming997 Why? The One is a function of the Matrix, this is a different version.

[@snuffles504]

@@deadpoolgaming997 I don't think the movie did a great job explaining this, but Neo's superpowers in this film are not a result of being the One. This is a different Matrix, and its core is built on Neo and Trinity's emotional connection. That's why they are both superpowered inside of it, especially when they are together.

[@famousthaneus9810]

I'll defend NPH's character. I don't think he was portrayed as being above humanity because, given the fact that he understood humanity more than his predecessors did, he didn't view himself as being above humans. Granted I'm probably filling in things the writers didn't even think about, but it seemed to me that he understood his position while at the same time feeling the best way to do his job was to blend in as much as possible, and over time lost that "I am God" mentality/presence. I mean he did speak about his position as though it were any old job he'd been promoted to

[@MrJohneblaze822]

I still couldn't stand his character lol

[@kubrickenigma7977]

There were moments of intriguing brilliance, but those moments were mere expository glimpses. Telling and showing, yes, but the time used on Niobe could have been traded for the Neo + Trinity body horror. Instead of showing glimpses with NPH voice over, have Neo take a knee and remember those out of Matrix experiences and recall the in matrix circumstances that allowed him and Trinity to reunite a rough number of times. NPH THEN explains, " Ah, you remember? Here's why ithe was that way..." Niobe could have volunteered to jack in for "one last mission" after seeing everyone step up to the plate to show that A) She was ready to lead no matter what, B) She would sacrifice herself if needed for the best chances of Io surviving (the situation was in play, no stopping it so might as well bring 80+ years of lived experiance to the table . Her RDI could have been JPS as she presently is) and C) She came across as and bit clichéd and weak sauce for not doing so. Niobi is a sort of five star general, apperantly and as such never as cruelly retired, so she would have more operational and strategic knowledge than the younger players, and since she had "seen the elephant" both inside and outside the Matrix her tactical experience could have been played off the chain. She could have been used for the set piece finale more effectively than as an expositiory and abrasive old guard. Her leadership was needed when everything went sideways in the cafe. So many un(der)germinated nuggets!

[@yrenekurtz5268]

@Clockwork ManThat there was a machine civil war that shifted the power balance in their civilization and that many machines ended up allying themselves with humanity was an interesting addition to the lore, but alas the movie barely does anything with it. Honestly, that would have been a much thing to make a movie about than the "everybody must fight so Neo and Trinity can be together because of... reasons?" deal that we got.

[@eon001]

This movie REALLY missed Yeun Wo Pings choreography, and why did those bullet time scenes look so cheap? 20 years later and the effect and fighting look way worse.

[@CouchCit]

This x 10000000

[@32lilbruce]

The same exact things I said about Yuen Wo Ping and the effects

[@CouchCit]

@@diomedes7971 I thought it was just me noticing that. It was ridiculous, they were worse than Stormtroopers with their aim.

[@zuriyel5368]

Yeah, it just makes it clear that the Wachowskis got too much credit for The Matrix and Yuen got too little.

[@IIISentorIII]

The Matrix Resurrections is a Masterpiece of modern film making! It even surpasses Marvel's Iron Fist and the pirate Captain Picard show. 10/10 IGN

[@chartabona]

Surprisingly enough, IGN gave it a 4/10.

[@Dmoney8720]

Just watched it last night. It was awful. Bravo to you Jeremy for watching it twice. I wouldn’t be able to sit through it a second time.

[@WaxTheDolphin]

Can't be worse than Captain Marcel

[@hairitzazani3600]

@@WaxTheDolphin matrix more worse than captain marvel 😂

[@WaxTheDolphin]

@@hairitzazani3600 I guess 2 major good movies in December would have been too much.

[@BishopWalters12]

@@hairitzazani3600 Both are terrible, It's like comparing the smell of horse s@@@ and cow s@@@.

[@BishopWalters12]

I agree, one time was bad enough.

[@Subxenox15]

When Neil Patrick Harris more or less quoted Ben Shapiro, "Facts don't care about your feelings", and the writers obviously wanted us to disagree with it, I couldn't help but feel the irony lol

[@Chameleonred5]

I... think you really didn't read that part right. He was talking about our willingness to invest in stories and feelings more than facts, and how it makes for a far more effective deception to hide the real problems behind. This is something that could apply to politics, sure, but also applies to the process of movie making, if you take the first third's meta as the movie's theming.

[@americansoccerunited]

Actually what he said was the opposite. That feelings are more important than facts to humans. Which is 100% true and not at all what Shapiro was talking about.

[@jiggamanjr7104]

Aaaaa

[@joejoseph6555]

Ben Shapiro tends to not use facts

[@Subxenox15]

@@joejoseph6555 Looks like somebody prefers feelings.

[@Rembreiker_lychec9257]

*The involvement of Smith still confuses me. Why was Smith trying to kill Neo midway in the film and then help Neo at the end? Why wasn’t Smith purged like all the other programs? Can someone make sense of this?*

[@Revan-eb1wb]

it makes no sense. It just to have some ''nostalgia'' and thats it

[@conyo985]

Don't try too hard to analyze the problems of a poorly written movie. If you are confused chalk it up to bad writing, directing and editing.

[@wingedlion17]

It doesn't really make sense. The whole idea of the 3rd movie is that Smith was deleted by neo. He was the first of the purges. How would he sneak back into the new matrix? Also Smith is supposed to be the ying to neo's yang not Trinity.

[@bmagada]

@@wingedlion17 They needed that "YAS QUEEN" moment at the end

[@mosdarko2252]

They copy Smiths code into the new version of the Matrix as a way of controlling Neo or something, maybe the analyst though he was part of the Binary code of the one, the Yang to Neo's ying or whatever

[@dijitek]

Glad you said it. Right after we got done watching I told my girlfriend this felt like a fan fiction version of the matrix. Not a movie from the original creators. Though could be the problem. Was only one half of the original duo.

[@thats4thebirds]

Just to devils advocate here for its “repetitions ” I felt like this was another iteration of the matrix just like the previous, but instead of recreating another one, the cycle was broken so they brought back neo but realized the reason this one was special was the previously noted love specific to trinity. So if every matrix was a cycle and Neo always picked humanity and it resets, this time, they reset but tried a new path, but without the One resetting they made due with putting him in a loop. Right back on the treadmill. All that said tho…. The rehashing of ideas was grating at times and definitely over indulgent. This movie felt like it was going to break its arm jerking itself off. but I really enjoyed at least one moment: When the suits are all discussing what “The Matrix” means to them. Some say it’s the action, some say it’s the mind fuck, or the free will and destiny, but they’re all right. It’s all those things and the way people even here are discussing it, it’s interesting to see how people feel betrayed. Maybe the action didn’t meet expectations, or the philosophy fell flat, or the plot and characters didn’t engage us. I think it should have done more to engage with the idea of a meta narrative and a repeating cycle within a repeating cycle in a world that commodifies repeating cycles, but it felt more interested in talking about being meta, than engaging with those concepts to create something subversive or defining.

[@MyReligionIs2DoGood]

"Maybe the action didn’t meet expectations, or the philosophy fell flat, or the plot and characters didn’t engage us." I believe the problem was that all three of the above fell short compared to the original 'Matrix', and even the two sequels.

[@ARZiehm]

I agree that the board room scenes carried some self-awareness, but it was just too much. What I didn't feel was that this movie believed itself to be its own Matrix movie... It's like a massively popular rock band who loses its lead singer, and is replaced by a new guy, but the new guy is too busy being jazzed about being in a popular band. You think, "Dude, this is YOUR band now, you have to be the one that makes it good still." Needless to say they didn't really carry the torch on this one... Just goes to show that sometimes it lies much more in the execution of individual people than it being part of a bigger franchise

[@le_maxarus]

actually, the first half hour, when it felt like a drama movie of a man going crazy, not being able to see what's real and what's not, the trully meta stuff of this movie... that was awesome. In my opinion, it should have gone full into that direction. But once they unplugged Neo, the movie forgets about that stuff and barely talks about it again. If this movie would have been full like that first half hour, I think it would have been a lot more interesting. The only way to make a 4th Matrix movie that makes sense is to make it ultra meta. But no, after they unpugged Neo it felt like "trying to be" like the other Matrix movies. That's when I lost interest.

[@bustedsim]

I was more interested in the "political" fallout of Neo's actions ending the Trilogy in thia film than I was in the Matrix realm as presented. Maybe I need to rewatch, but in the first 3 movies you watch it and can pinpoint shots, not even action beats, but smaller, contemplative shots and think "that could've been a frame in an anime." Here everything was so frenetic and constantly moving and it's like they took WAY less care in visualizing the film. There were no standout shots for me. Apparently Lana Watchowski was struggling with grief after her parents died and that gave brith to bringing Neo and Trinity back. Which I can get. Nostalgic comfort. WandaVision was all ABOUT that. I just wish this film was about more than "Hey, they're back now." Again, it may take some rewatches, but I found it to be less philosophical and symbolic than the previous Matricies as well, whuch I would argue is JUST as intrinsic to the franchise as stand out shots... and here I am, sounding like that board meeting.

[@Tnargav]

I wished they followed more interesting subjects a lot more like machine's war, Sati's story including the whole resurrection process, the new city - and many more - instead of Neo's depression for half of the movie ...

[@jacobsobelman3923]

The awkward frame rate manipulation VFX used for the “bullet time” was physically painful to watch

[@acoupleofschoes]

I don't know if it was intentional or not, but I always really enjoyed the martial arts in the original trilogy because the blows looked so inconsequential/movie fake. This is a simulation, it's expressly explained when Neo is learning to fight, you can do things not actually physically possible to do. It's not actually the force of the punch or kick, it's the intension and execution of the "code" you're coming up with to inflict an attack on your opponent. Neo just casually putting his hand up to block actually forces his opponent's kick to ricochet back and throw them across the room, etc. It wasn't the actual force of attack or block, it was Neo working inside the Matrix to make that happen. This movie abandoned that philosophy (if it ever actually existed), and now everything just looks like generic "real" Hollywood fights.

[@robertcraigashby9836]

I think he is still kinda part of the Hive mind of the original Matrix film. the Sentients or whatever broke away from that Hive mind. So he can be reprogrammed a bit by the Hive mind despite his power. THe only thing I can think of,

[@danbowman84]

Head up it's own arse. One line that sums this movie up.

[@reptocilicus]

Why were Sentinels not constantly observing Neo and Trinity in their pods?

[@vinyfiny2019]

The thing that rubbed me the wrong way in this movie more than anything else (surprisingly) was the editing in the action sequences. Very choppy with the camera flying all over the place. The original trilogy filmed the action and fighting EXTREMELY well. Lots of long steady shots even with a lot going on, gradual panning, well used slow motion, and excellent framing. It makes a world of difference.