Restoring an extremely crusty Procunier tapping head

I bought an extremely crusty Procunier model 3E tapping head. Can I restore it?
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[@lukasbasques]

That zip tie holding the nameplate is the real hero of this video

[@jeremylastname873]

I immediately speculated that this was in someone’s “to do” list, but life had other plans. 😢 If so, I imagine they’d be happy to see it shine again. 🎉

[@RotarySMP]

Cool. New Jeremy video. Does Anchorlube also provide scrap stock in their color?

[@JeremyMakesThings]

That was from a weird home made table router/wood shaper thing that I got with my weird home-converted metal bandsaw. I guess the guy a vaguely similar taste is color to you? It was free, but I didn’t need the router so I scavenged it for materials.

[@RotarySMP]

@@JeremyMakesThings Remember DIN 1844 mandated painting machine tools with RAL 6011 :)

[@TalRohan]

Anchorlube in machine green......I remember the weird beige stuff they used on the lathes at school...that was a gross colour ..it just said filthy disgusting dont get it on your hands, somehow.

[@fredrickgustafsson4795]

That "knick" sound at 1:10 is the most beautiful sound in the world to anyone who has ever fought a stuck bolt. The bigger the bolt the sweeter the sound.

[@pacman10182]

until you realize the head snapped off

[@fredrickgustafsson4795]

@@pacman10182 different sound and feel in the wrench when that happends.

[@sjv6598]

And the sound is usually followed by “thank fook for that” 😂

[@ShaunHensley]

😂 I was thinking the exact same thing

[@BadMFingAtti2d]

If they DON'T like your humor, too bad.

[@LittleAussieRockets]

Dad jokes are the core of any good machining channel.

[@arimadx]

Absolutely 😂

[@bryco32]

30 years ago I Used these in several different sizes and Natco multi spindle heads on a old Cincinnati Bickford as well as on a Ikeda radial arm drill press. I could get 6 procuners setup and running on the Natco Gang drill head drilling and tapping Iron ball bearing housings. Once we Live tooled our Warner swasey chuckers they went into a crate and were tossed in the early 2000's. We kept the smaller procuners since we still use them for a clamp drilling and tapping operation. Still remember (vaguely) getting absolutely Blitzed using toluene based Tapmatic running stainless stuff with the heads! More than once the Shop steward would grab me and walk me out to fresh air for a sober up! Run big VTL's now but I enjoyed my time running these heads on the manual machines.

[@TalRohan]

I just love those times when you go for something allegedly a bit knackered and end up with a practically brand new thing just by cleaning it up a bit...theyre a restorers nightmare but awesome for a user of interesting bits of scrap. That has to be one of the biggest pieces of angle iron I have ever seen...it makes awesome shelf.

[@Peter_Nottle]

gotta love that corny dad joke humour 😉

[@georgedennison3338]

I made a great discovery a while back. Faced w/ rust remover not liking dirty objects & most rusty objects are dirty, and my go to cleaner, (LA's Awesome Orange @ 2.50/gal at Dollar Tree), eating everything in the 'dirt/grease' class, but not rust, I tried combining them. Wasn't a huge piece of brain work, but hey, nobody else is talking about it. I have a brass shell casing tumbler I use for low effort smaller than a bowling ball cleaning. I emptied it & started working on most effective ratios. I found one that worked great, it's not 50/50, but I forgot to write it down, so gonna have to repeat. Give it a try, it has really reduced my cleaning-derusting time involvement. Nice score on the big azz Procunier. And nice restoration. Figured it'd be nice inside. Oh, the reason it's designed as it is? Ever work on a Citreon? Or Renault?

[@czerstwy22]

Bucket with kerosene are also great for dirt/greese removal, but you need clean kerosene after that :D Old machines was designed weeeeeeeery different than today and this isn't only because consumerism, but different tools was available, in car industry included. Back then, most things was design to live forever, even if wasn't make from good materials, serviceability was a big thing. For example in old TV you often had full electronic diagrams put/glue inside enclosure, today... it is hard, even impossible sometimes, to open things without breaking something. As for tools for designing and fabricating. For example, CAD enables more compact designs than drawings allows, CNC can fabricate more intricate designs and compact them even further. And today, with 3d printers you can do things that, not even long ago, was just impossible. But a lot bad designs are still just bad, any tool or philosophy wouldn't help with that :P

[@jamestennant1640]

I'm going to zip tie a tapper label to an old GM truck oil filter cover and leave it lay near a junk yard.

[@TheDistur]

Love a simple and effective mechanism. Glad it was an easy job to get going!

[@TheHammer260]

Hey man, I’ve got a quick question about painting my own CJ5 project. I know that the factory painted the whole body uniformly and didn’t apply any undercarriage protection. I am currently preparing my tub for repainting (the patina was ruined by a rattle can from a previous owner) and I am considering painting the undercarriage with chassis protector or some similar product for added protection. Do you think this would be a bad idea? I have read some forums where people do not like it at all. Thanks!

[@JeremyMakesThings]

I did a couple coats of Mastercoat on mine and will eventually do either an under coat of Raptor liner on the underside. The argument against this approach seems to be that it “traps moisture.” Obviously just paint didn’t work on the original, so I’m of the opinion that more protection (and sound deadening) is better, but that’s just my opinion.

[@TheHammer260]

@@JeremyMakesThings Thank you! I'm on the same page as you with that (why repeat past mistakes, see wood in the hat channels of the body). Do you think chassis saver is a good choice for this or would you recommend something like mastercoat?

[@Raw774]

Huh. Last video I asked what that tool was. Now I know it's a tap head and you're restoring another one!

[@mickawe3239]

BS381C 352 - Pale cream. Not to be confused with BS2660 3-042 - Rich cream. It was one of the questions used to establish the guilt of Bosch spies during the last unpleasantness.

[@anandarochisha]

The engineer who designed that likely passed away in the last millenium

[@JeremyMakesThings]

Yes. I believe the basic design of these is around 100 years old.

[@Watchyn_Yarwood]

Hammer impact will loosen more bolts without breaking them than most any other method. Unlike an impact wrench, you can control the impact force. Using that method, I have loosened bolts that a 3/4" impact wouldn't budge. AnchorLube is awesome stuff!

[@camillosteuss]

Bruh, you better clean that poor mill off after drilling the wall right next to her... Did anyone say abrasive? Otherwise, a good vid, and a nice piece... I for a long time wanted to make one of these; this just confirms my design and concepts... Best regards! Steuss

[@leftseatmcgee5002]

Tried watching this three times. First two had to be rewatched cause I was baked, but I remember thinking that he painted something with Anchor Lube. No joke, 15:08 rolls around and I'm thinking "holy crap, he DID paint it with anchor lube!"

[@Paul-FrancisB]

Perfect just sat down after work and a new Jeremy video popped up

[@danmerillat]

@10:50 it's from lakeland florida, that's the minimum standard you have to build anything to here to stop it from seizing up with rust before making it out the factory door. so much humidity...

[@sherylryan7038]

No Jeremy is the hero for bringing content like this 😊

[@deancoley7987]

I think you made this device, then made it look rough, and then claimed the restoration lol, seriously great restoration. I think a future project should be to dig the footings around the workshop and build a bigger place around the current one, will only take you three videos

[@arimadx]

The opening joke got you my thumbs up! 😂 also great video buddy

[@RB-yq7qv]

NICE Job but where's the paint for the rack then you are organised

[@624Dudley]

Definitely worth your time! 👍

[@honeycuttracing]

Thanks for posting this, been so long since pulled ours apart wasn't sure what went where 😅👍👏👏

[@IrenESorius]

👍‍‍😎👍‍‍

[@aceroadholder2185]

Tapping heads are bulky, but if you have 500 holes to tap they are a godsend.

[@Alanfarmer86]

As someone that also tends to accumulate pre loved things that always need work and repair before I can use them it's a slightly weird feeling when I get something for a good price and don't have to do anything to use it.

[@spinesales]

Just found your channel. Awesome!

[@bhoiiii]

Keep with the humor. I don’t watch for you good looks. ;)

[@ColinLennard]

Thank you. different!. A good watch.

[@Rustinox]

It's a bit strange that someone did throw a perfectly fine tapping head away (with tag zipped on). But good for you. I would call that a win. Btw, I think your L-iron storage will hold. For sure :)

[@JeremyMakesThings]

The place I got it from was much more industrial salvage than scrap yard. I think he buys a lot at auctions and estate sales, I think this poor thing got misidentified and put outside with the big stuff rather than under cover with the tooling.

[@jasone3166]

I hope that angle iron is up to the task of holding all three tools. : ) I didn't know that tool existed but I love how it works!

[@HenryLeslieGraham]

is the long rod a handle? does it do something with clutch? i dont know my machines well...

[@McKildafor]

Great video. Thank you for sharing!

[@WiktorKa]

Great work, man! Thank you for sharing.

[@craigsudman4556]

Excellent video thumbs up.

[@SmaulPart-pb5hm]

I thought those were alot more complex inside.

[@awldune]

This turned out to be a good find!

[@davidparker3346]

what humor... just joking I like it.

[@thaiexodus2916]

Thanks very much for spraying penetrating oil before trying to unscrew. There's a half million videos out there of idiots shearing off bolts. I've always wondered why people clamp cylindrical parts in a vice when there's a purpose made round clamp sitting over there on the lathe.

[@webtoedman]

It can be hard on the mandrel bearings. Get hold of a worn out chuck and lock it in the vice, and wale on that.

[@billgilbride7972]

That tool just about demand to be used on any other mill OTHER than a bench mill. "A mills got to know its limitations" - Clint Eastwood, sort of. FANTASTIC rebuild for knowledge's sake.

[@jamesriordan3494]

Nice one, and definitely “ier” than the little one

[@Tishers]

Your humor is PUN-ishment!

[@kendingsor]

I like the part where it went sproing!

[@RyanAUS]

Humour is good. Keep it coming.

[@Chromevulcan]

While I agree that such a light color is a bad idea for a machine shop, with all the oil and grease and such, at least you didn't paint it that gawd-awful green that all the Europeans use on everything!

[@JeremyMakesThings]

My rule of thumb is if I can figure out the original color, I’ll got with that. If not, it’s charcoal gray. (I also have a soft spot for tools that were originally charcoal gray. Unless it was originally green. I might have to draw the line there.

[@ryebis]

Nice restoration, well done.

[@bobweiram6321]

Have you ever broken a tap using a tapping head?

[@JeremyMakesThings]

I haven’t. I think the clutch will slip if it binds up too much.

[@bobweiram6321]

@@JeremyMakesThings I ask because a small tap is more likely to snap due to the torque. I've thought about using one of those adjustable torque drill chucks for tapping.

[@georgedennison3338]

Never have... 10+ yrs of using one. The clutch prevents it.

[@invertedpolarity6890]

Really enjoy your videos.

[@markgreen7701]

That's a handy tool to have in the shop!

[@rallymax2]

Your angle iron “scrap” is more metal than I’ll ever come across. The slots for the t slot keys was a really nice touch.

[@scroungasworkshop4663]

Well done Jeremy, that came out really well. Cheers mate, Stuart.🇦🇺

[@woodhonky3890]

Shaft's bent.

[@johngassmann9581]

Pretty cool tool.

[@DolezalPetr]

niceeeee, I like it

[@JoshuaBoyd]

I like your humor. More importantly, the humor is what gets my wife to watch with me.

[@cain589]

What did you do with the “bent wire”. I’m not familiar with that

[@JeremyMakesThings]

There’s a pin inside the clutch that holds it onto the shaft. The only way to get the pin in and out is to push it with a piece of wire. Of course, when you push on the wire, it bends more, so I ended up using needle nose pliers to push the wire through.

[@erichenao6537]

yes to the jokes!

[@peter360adventures9]

Awesome work

[@erichenao6537]

How much for the piece at the scrap yard?

[@JeremyMakesThings]

It was one of those things where it was a bunch of stuff bundled together, but the way I broke it out in my head it was $15.

[@gexas38]

so im looking at getting a procunier #3 like yours. it comes with 4 collets and seems to be in good condition. After u have used your head a bit are u still glad u have it in your arsenal?

[@JeremyMakesThings]

Absolutely worth it if the price is right.

[@gexas38]

@@JeremyMakesThings ok second question...i am nervous the #3 wont fit in my mill. i have 8" between mill spindle and the top of my vice. Will the #3 fit that? The head im looking at is in real good shape and has 4 collets 1/4 thru 5/8 for 175. from ebay solds this is a reasonable price i believe. thanks for sharing your thoughts.

[@JeremyMakesThings]

@@gexas38 it would be tight, especially getting it in and out of the spindle. The price is good though, you probably wouldn’t have a problem getting you money back if you decided you didn’t like it and wanted to resell it.

[@gexas38]

@@JeremyMakesThings ok pulled the trigger on a #3 off the ...bay and at 60 bucks it was a steal for me. Cleaned it up and everything seemed in order but i did have to turn down the MT3 to be a stubby straight shank in order to fit in my drill press. I came back to your video numerous times to reference your assembly/disassembly so thanks again for posting this. It has been a great tutorial.

[@WilliamEllison]

That tap kind of sucks.

[@jdmccorful]

Truly, "Mr. Fixing "! Really enjoyed this and had some good laughs. Thanks!!

[@hrxy1]

I like your humour great video, thanks