ABSOLUTELY AMAZING!! | Shogun Season 1 Episode 10 FINALE REACTION!! | 1x10

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@JerzeyBoyz
@JerzeyBoyz 7 ай бұрын
How do you all feel about the ending?!
@React2This
@React2This 7 ай бұрын
Perfect ending. My one disappointment is that I’ll never see a Shogun vs The Sopranos mashup because James Gandolfini died.
@jeffandjoannbauer9567
@jeffandjoannbauer9567 7 ай бұрын
They totally stuck the landing. This was one of the best shows I’ve ever seen. A masterwork.
@jeffandjoannbauer9567
@jeffandjoannbauer9567 7 ай бұрын
You guys are among the few react-ers who actually got the significance of Torananga’s smile. Great commentary, fellas: been a pleasure watching your reaction videos to this series.
@leisttite2432
@leisttite2432 7 ай бұрын
yes👍
@mitchmatt6002
@mitchmatt6002 7 ай бұрын
I've really enjoyed watching this alongside you both, and hearing your opinions (even when you hold differing views), has been fun and is much appreciated! This show is a masterpiece, and will definitely live long in the memory! The beauty of the final shot, accompanied by the beautiful score, was the perfect way to end it! Great job, guys!
@JerzeyBoyz
@JerzeyBoyz 7 ай бұрын
Thank you!!
@SutekhDaSteemroller
@SutekhDaSteemroller 6 ай бұрын
The scene with them pulling the boat out is so beautiful. It shows John has fully converted to the "all for one" mindset of the Japanese. He even gave buntaro water before he took any for himself.
@gonaye1
@gonaye1 7 ай бұрын
The most beautiful part of the finale for me was how many people were affected by Mariko’s death, either by regretting it (Ishido, the Regents, Yabusige), remembering her poetry (Lady Ochiba, Toranaga) remembering her words (Blackthorne, Fuji), or honoring her wishes (Toranaga, the Monk Alvito). Toranaga’s vision (and four-dimensional chess game) was finally realized, but the show never forgot that Mariko was the true heart of the story, transforming everyone by her life and by her death, and destroying Toranaga’s enemies in a way an army never could. She was such an unforgettable character in a such a wonderful show. Thank you, Mariko-dono. You are the beautiful flower that finally fell, but, thankfully, you have been carried by the wind for all of the world to see and cherish, and you will never be forgotten. 🌸🌺🌸
@bebe_buu
@bebe_buu 7 ай бұрын
I'm so happy you guys like the ending and totally agree with about it🥰
@JoeRandoms
@JoeRandoms 7 ай бұрын
this show is legendary
@AmanCreatesArt
@AmanCreatesArt 7 ай бұрын
Congrats on being one of the only reaction channels to realize that John was dreaming of his dream of going back to England, and then let that go. James Clavell wrote 6 interconnected novels in his Asian Saga. Shōgun, Tai-Pan, Gai-Jin, King Rat, Noble House, and Whirlwind. The original mini-series was so popular they followed it up with a mini-series adaptation of Noble House a few years later, and a feature film of Tai-Pan. I'm hoping the success of this show will lead to them adapting the other books too!
@heathen-heart
@heathen-heart 7 ай бұрын
The Tai-pan book is great and deserves a mini-series like this. The movie they made years ago was not very good. King Rat is a great book and the movie they made for it is really good too.
@alanfoster6589
@alanfoster6589 7 ай бұрын
@@heathen-heart The movie version of Tai-pan bombing at the box office is one reason Clavell's "Thrump-o-moto" was not made into a film.
@SutekhDaSteemroller
@SutekhDaSteemroller 6 ай бұрын
@@alanfoster6589 Let Justin Marks get his hands on it hell do it justice
@mayuhachi7161
@mayuhachi7161 7 ай бұрын
素晴らしいリアクションと感想をありがとう。私は最高のシーズンストーリーを見て感動し、その後にお二人のような海外の人々のリアクションを見てまた感動している。このドラマは素晴らしい出来栄えであり、日本の歴史や文化や演劇が理解され支持してもらえるのは誇らしい。しかし、これは日本人だけの力では絶対に作れなかった番組だとも思う。アメリカだ。偉大であり寛容であった。原作者、制作者、出演者、スタッフのみならず視聴者も含めて、太平洋を越えて交わされた互いに対する理解とリスペクトがこの作品を最高たらしめている。
@samlanganke1262
@samlanganke1262 7 ай бұрын
Not many reviewers get it. You guys do. Respect.
@Mugen3
@Mugen3 7 ай бұрын
"no translator....." I cried again😭😭😭
@botNeyen
@botNeyen 3 ай бұрын
It's also interesting to think of Torunaga letting the falcon go free as his own personal way to "let go" of Mariko. If you rewatch episode 1, what he says about the falcon in his introduction scene is him essentially revealing/foreshadowing Mariko's story.
@Squawksx
@Squawksx 7 ай бұрын
In the after the episode podcast on the FX channel the actor of Toranaga talked about how he understands how the character of Toranaga feels taking on the role of Shogun for the sake of Japan, and how he couldn't do enough for the culture as just an actor and had to become more (producer) in order to in his eyes bridge the culture gap and misunderstandings of the east and the west. He also mentioned how meaningful it was to him to bring a Japanese crew of production and actors into this limelight and hopes to use this bridge for him and others to be creative in the future. I'm sure this won't be the last Japanese epic we see from him.
@JerzeyBoyz
@JerzeyBoyz 7 ай бұрын
I saw that too!! I hope he does more!! - John
@MustardSkaven
@MustardSkaven 7 ай бұрын
For the sake of Japan? You mean his own ambition, lol.
@Squawksx
@Squawksx 7 ай бұрын
​@@MustardSkaven Probably both. Everything is up to your own interpretation, one of the awesome things about the show being so subtle and nuanced
@Diego-is9do
@Diego-is9do 7 ай бұрын
I love shogun,thank you enjoy your channel
@wahn10
@wahn10 7 ай бұрын
I did not expect this show to hit me so hard. What a work of art. My family and I, we cried multiple times this episode. Best show in god knows how long. Every department brought their A+ game.
@jonathanblaze1648
@jonathanblaze1648 7 ай бұрын
Excellent show! One of the best I've ever seen. My favorite 3 characters 1. Mariko - the heart of the show, and the real MVP. 2. Yabushige - the most interesting character. 3. Fuji - the strongest person on the show.
@owlswillow3065
@owlswillow3065 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching according to the time and space in Nihon. The heart that Sanada wants to convey is how to end the line, and the real words are hidden in the line of the heart between the next word. Many commentators don't notice this, and they feel like they have heard half of the words and understood everything, and they are immersed in their own story, so they can't feel Nihon from the story. It's called humility, you respected and watched this atmosphere, but it said it was humility, and the two of them were able to enter Nihontime and space from there. I was happy. Thank you. Come to Nihon someday. You guys are welcome.
@HoopleHeadUSA
@HoopleHeadUSA 7 ай бұрын
Great reaction to an outstanding series, thank you!
@JerzeyBoyz
@JerzeyBoyz 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching!!
@botNeyen
@botNeyen 3 ай бұрын
"Flowers are only flowers because they fall, but thankfully the wind" Mariko was the flower and Yabushige was the wind since episode one.
@wildreeds
@wildreeds 7 ай бұрын
It's been awhile but in the book Sekigahara (the decisive battle) was a 1 page mention in the epilogue, which is pretty much how it's presented here. There are plenty of material to continue from history. It would be nice to see Toranaga/Tokugawa's relationship with the emperor for example after he becomes Shogun.
@MM-bl1gw
@MM-bl1gw 7 ай бұрын
この素晴らしいep10に向かうなら、何度でもep01~09を見返すことが出来る。
@botNeyen
@botNeyen 3 ай бұрын
26:00 Not sure if someone said it, but that is the same lake where the novel's writter ashes were spread
@arthurwilliams7511
@arthurwilliams7511 7 ай бұрын
Blue eye samurai is set a generation or so in the future and is also extremely good.
@KA-bv5se
@KA-bv5se 7 ай бұрын
日本人ですが、今回のシリーズは本当に正しくその時の日本人の死生観や歴史を表現していると思います。ただ日本語の細かい表現や言葉遣いやほんの些細な目線や仕草が英語でうまく表せてるのか、そこだけが気になりました。
@khaii13
@khaii13 7 ай бұрын
それらは適切に伝えられました。しかし、文化に未熟な人は、それを得られないだろう。私はフィリピン人です、私は日本の隣人としてそれのいくつかを手に入れました。しかし、私も多くのことを見逃したと確信しています。
@zimvader25
@zimvader25 7 ай бұрын
John the court jester. Given all sorts of riches yet was denied every single request he even thought about asking Toranaga for lol
@SutekhDaSteemroller
@SutekhDaSteemroller 6 ай бұрын
Right. He's a circus freak to them.
@Geezman1977
@Geezman1977 7 ай бұрын
Rewatching this, I am floored by how Cosmo was almost grasping at words, to say the final rites for Mariko. Such good acting. And that No Translator scene, crushed me.
@JerzeyBoyz
@JerzeyBoyz 7 ай бұрын
He brought his A game especially in this episode!!
@mdeniegas
@mdeniegas 7 ай бұрын
Watch cosmo jarvis in persuasion with dakota johnson he really is good actor, he really invokes a lot of emotions from viewers,finally with shogun he will have more projects and be a household name
@botNeyen
@botNeyen 3 ай бұрын
To me, I had a lot of feelings about this ending: We like to see war in TV/movies becasue we find it cool when in reality is absolutely destructive for everyone involved, whenever it was a city and a war happened, is now a cementery, Toranaga knew this and made it pretty clear: the most important thing is maintein the country alive. And its kinda showed when the earth shakes after Ishido and the council shouts "War is inevitable". Because of how ugly a war can be, is that Shogun ends not with war, but with a poem. In the episode 9, when Mariko say his first poem she says "on a leafless branch" (Ochiba name translates to "fallen leaves") and then is followed by "flowers are only flowers because they fall" this is a suggestion that neither Mariko or Ochiba would have done or would've never become the people they did without being separated (it explains why Ochiba stood up for Mariko so many times, she knew this the moment Mariko said the poem). Then in episode 10 the poem is finished by "But thankfully, the wind" wich is a reference of Yabushige and Toranaga's talk in the hill. When Yabushige ask about shaping the wind and Toranaga's says he studies it, because he is the wind Ochiba credits with bringing her back to Mariko, for reconnecting the fallen leaves and the fallen flower with their branch. Also, the other point is that Absence is the center of Shogun ending, Mariko is gone, John's ship is gone, Yabushige is gone, and the Taiko's wife who started everything is also gone, and the war that we were all expecting is nowhere to be found. I felt like something was missing in the episode and after thinking I was right, something IS missing, and is the point: Peace is never something thrilling, and it was what Toranaga's wanted since the start, win the war peacefully, and the truth is, peace is boring.
@majemaje0805sweetvoice
@majemaje0805sweetvoice 7 ай бұрын
The novel ends, but the interesting part of Japanese history starts from here, the ``Battle of Sekigahara'' between 80,000 soldiers of the Western army led by Ishido and 70,000 soldiers of the Eastern army led by Toranaga, this is a battle from Game of Thrones. epic battle over Eventually, after unifying the country, Toranaga attacked the impregnable Osaka Castle, where Ochiha no Kata and his son, whom he had led to victory, were living in the battles of ``Winter Jin'' and ``Summer Jin.'' Japan's history is interesting from now on. Season 2 should be produced.
@botNeyen
@botNeyen 3 ай бұрын
Yeah I loved this episode too, and you are 100% right, is beautiful and sad, is really a bittersweet ending.
@botNeyen
@botNeyen 3 ай бұрын
Many people phrase this ending and Toranaga's character as some kind of "chess in real life". However, Toranaga is playing the japanese game, shogi. Wich unlike chess, in shogi you can use stolen pieces. For this reason, there is also a strategy to capture the king (The Heir/His mother) by taking away important pieces as decoys (Mariko, Anjin, Yabu,etc). Strategy is of utmost importance for victory.
@kona883
@kona883 7 ай бұрын
No there was a battle a month later 1000s were killed! Toranaga became Shogun and peace reigned under his Shogunate for 250 years! In the November Fuji dies but in the original mini series Fuji changed her mind and stays with John!
@alexlim864
@alexlim864 7 ай бұрын
This was a great series, loved you reactions. Here's to hoping the novelization does it justice - oh, wait. . . .😮
@botNeyen
@botNeyen 3 ай бұрын
Some people complain about the ending and the lack of "action". The ending is the main point of the whole show and the main point of Toranaga's character. "Win the battle without getting the sword wet". It reminds me of Sun Tzu's: The Art of War, where lays out the truth of Toranaga's tactics. The best general is not one who wins 100 victories in 100 battles, it's the one who wins without fighting at all. For everyone who expected a fight with a lot of blood and people dying, we are represented in Nagakado and one of the last things his father said to him "Why the ones that have never been on battle are the most eager to start one?" that's exactly us, the viewers.
@botNeyen
@botNeyen 3 ай бұрын
Sun Tzu's: The Art of War, lays out the truth of Toranaga's tactics. The best general is not one who wins 100 victories in 100 battles, it's the one who wins without fighting at all. Toranaga could have tried to cut a bloody swathe across the country. He could have had Blackthorne sink the Black Ship and bombard the ports and fortresses of every town. He could have done what we all (including Blackthorn) expected him to do in order to win, but instead he crushed the enemy alliance by playing innocent and sending one woman in to undermine their unity.
@botNeyen
@botNeyen 3 ай бұрын
I read somewhere that in the book he actually says that he keeps the Anjin around because in the end, even him needs a friend (Wich IMO it makes the whole seppuku scene even more impactful, is Toranaga saving a friend, that friend that doesnt share the same culture as him so he can actually save from a seppuku). I wish the showrunners had kept that. I absolutely hate the "Because hes funny haha" thing, is absolutely off-character from Toranaga. We all know, even him, that he keeps him around because he feels somewhat responsible and "friend" with him. Thats why in the book Anjin is also gifted with the Ajiro village.
@yelliedensss
@yelliedensss 7 ай бұрын
i read a comment from a book reader they said there was no war in the book so the adaptation was faithful to clavel's novel
@justwatchnotsay
@justwatchnotsay 6 ай бұрын
Basically John got through a Japanese Baptism,and became a samurai
@marclement24
@marclement24 7 ай бұрын
I just realized, oh man, the ruse of Toranaga on Buntaro, while you were talking about Buntaro (hopefully the show would make Buntaro's episode on season 2 on how he got away from Osaka), that Toranaga probably had some doubts about Buntaro, after he escaped Osaka. It all made sense now and it was done in the most subtle way. First, upon arrival to the Anjin's household his vibe turned from dark before Osaka to very dark after Osaka, from the conflict during dinner up to the point he blamed the sake, Toranaga may already have some idea of what's going on in Buntaro's head reason why he let him stay with the Anjin, Mariko, and Fuji, beforehand. Second, Buntaro keeps on blaming the Anjin for the flailing affection/attention from Mariko, and at one point asked for the Anjin's head (Omi may have got into Buntaro's head and after this finale I realized that Omi has always been Toranaga's spy) but he keeps on denying Buntaro of it. It was all building up and to a certain point Toranaga was sure his most skilled Samurai would flip and either boil up or give up on him - we see this as confirmation when Buntaro ask to have tea with Mariko, he spilled what he truly felt about Toranaga - that he given up on his Lord and would rather commit seppuku as means of protest (with consideration of surrendering of course but I'm sure it's deeper than that). Lastly, Hiromatsu being his father and closest, knows his own son more than anybody, and being Toranaga's old friend, he probably already figured out that his friend is playing a ruse on his son. Hiromatsu played Toranaga's own ruse (who better than the person who knows you better than anyone, right?) and made Buntaro swear in front of his generals and Toranaga to not give up on his lord - he made it sound like Toranaga was giving up when it's actually meant for Buntaro - after being denied by Toranaga and Mariko. Hiromatsu may have wanted the other generals to be spared from commiting seppuku but I think now the sacrifice was driven more for his son 😢 this made me cry a bit, the love of a father to his son, to live despite of it all. Buntaro's look of disdain towards Toranaga completely disappeared when he looked back to his father and made him promised to always be loyal 😭 Knowing Buntaro is the last remaining bloodline, Hiromatsu committed seppuku to protest for him so that he'll no longer have to do it himself but instead to live on for him to continue the family lineage 😭
@SutekhDaSteemroller
@SutekhDaSteemroller 6 ай бұрын
Wow. You're right. Hiromatsu might just have solidified Buntaro's allegience to Toranaga with his words and act.
@alanfoster6589
@alanfoster6589 6 ай бұрын
@@SutekhDaSteemroller The "real" Buntaro lived longer than any of the other principals, and was famous as a great warrior.
@reggieazem4143
@reggieazem4143 7 ай бұрын
I'm not sure how to feel,I feel confused, not about the show, 😂 just emotionally Disbelief? Longing? 🤔 Sad. Lol something in between
@El_coajo
@El_coajo 7 ай бұрын
One of the Best show of the last years fs.
@たみしん-e9z
@たみしん-e9z 7 ай бұрын
日本人の感情はとても繊細で深いです。そして静かで力強いです。
@jaehyun4ever
@jaehyun4ever 7 ай бұрын
wbk he is a cunning man just like that lady said
@El_coajo
@El_coajo 7 ай бұрын
"Luckily i have more children thanks to you" (to ensure unlimited powa!) That was savage.
@YourMajesty733
@YourMajesty733 7 ай бұрын
Toranaga is diabolical
@khaii13
@khaii13 7 ай бұрын
“The Ogre lost his precious Leafless Branch the moment he crushed the Flower underfoot; sisters in the end, after all” 「オーガは、彼が足元に花を押しつぶした瞬間に、彼の貴重な葉のない枝を失いました。結局のところ、姉妹」 For the first time in the entire series, Ochiba sama looks directly to Ishido while talking to him; in all other episodes, she glances at him but looks away. That was the most subtle, passive-aggressive death stare I have seen on screen to date.🫣 Yabushige and Toranaga smirking at each other in the end was awesome, too. Yabushige got the best end he could have gotten, considering all he has done: realizing that whether he knew it or not, he has served his Lord Toranaga excellently. And maybe, just maybe, lightening the burden in his conscience a bit, afterall: a future Toranaga victory will never come to pass if Mariko did not die INSIDE of Osaka. An understanding passed between them, no words needed to be said: Toranaga desires to be Shogun, afterall. Goodbye to our favourite sociopath. Blackthorne kills a possible future version of himself-an old man, filled with regret, clutching on to Mariko’s crucifix-by mirroring Mariko (literally doing a ritual su!c!d3 like a woman [a blade through the heart] instead of seppuku [slicing his belly open] like a samurai would) in order to protect Ajiro: the first completely selfless thing he has done in the show; and also by letting that exact same crucifix go into the water along with the ashes of Fuji-sama’s family. And to think he did all those things mostly as an act of kindness to Fuji-sama… she deserves the best. 🥹🥹 "I forcced fate to gaze upon me so that I can pluck its eyes out" -Ochiba no Kata Also, the fact that Anjin used the word 詰まらない【つまらない】 (tsumaranai) when he said “my war is small” can also be translated to “my wars are petty/trivial/silly/worthless” in reference to his ambitions and designs for England and his war against the Catholics. That was him letting go of his personal ambitions for something greater. The entire show (and the novel it was based on) was one giant setup to place Toranaga in a position to win the final battle. The broad strokes of the scenario for the final battle were revealed, but the details of the final battle plan (along with the final politics to fully turn all the lords who now have a soured opinion of Ishido) and how the battle actually ensued are still hidden. So who is ready for a “new/separate” mini-series or feature film titled “Sekigahara”? Ohhh, and what was Toranaga holding in his left hand just before it cut to the title card? Crimson Herring!
@khaii13
@khaii13 7 ай бұрын
*Everytime Anjin makes a request or anyone makes a request that concerns Blackthorne* Toranaga: NO!
@JerzeyBoyz
@JerzeyBoyz 7 ай бұрын
😂
@iamcool8088
@iamcool8088 7 ай бұрын
Love how you’re like maybe he’ll get the ronin to join him… they gave us nooooooooo action noooooo battle Really sucks, phenomenal show still but that sucks.
@JerzeyBoyz
@JerzeyBoyz 7 ай бұрын
😂
@samlanganke1262
@samlanganke1262 7 ай бұрын
It never was about the battle of Sekigahara. The book includes over 1000 pages. The battle is mentioned in 11 lines.
@Official-OpenAI
@Official-OpenAI 7 ай бұрын
I wished as well that we would get to see some crazy battle; especially because the Sengoku era was just war war war, but I also found it unnecessary to do so especially if this was going to follow the book, and its a 10 episode series. Maybe some time in a the future we will get a 5+ season show on the earlier Daimyo Nobunaga and his reign with equal cultural precision shown in 'Shogun'. It would definitely be a great hit.
@たみしん-e9z
@たみしん-e9z 7 ай бұрын
As a one of Japanese I think, Japanese emotions to be very sensitive and quiet yet powerful.
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