Jesus: The Seven Wonders of HIStory Part 4 - His Death 2

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Taking the middle section of the Apostles' Creed as the frame work, David Pawson explains the fundamental fact about Jesus on which the Christian faith is based. .
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These messages are a true treasure, Thank you Lord.

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An absolute blessing to this world you are, Mr Pawson. I thank God for you, and pray for your healing in Jesus Name. 💝

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Cross - Conquest, Ransom, Offering, Satisfaction, Substitution

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33:50 "CROSS"; Conquest; describing the cross' meaning

[@golove3204]

Sadly, Mr. Pawson missed Psalm 22:24. He's one of my favorite teachers, but his teaching that the Father punished, and was angry at Jesus is just wrong. The Father never turned his back on Jesus. This was a teaching started by Anselm in the 1100s. The early church never taught this. Mr. Pawson even teaches here that Psalm 22 is a prophetic Psalm, but I guess he missed verse 24.

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HI if I may just ask - please re listen to Davids words he spoke - David does not say God was angry at Jesus The Lord our God blesses but he also punishes that is stated through out the Bible - but God did not punish Jesus - Jesus took on our punishment for the forgiveness of our sins ''The consequence of sin is death'' and we ''have all signed and fallen short'' Sin has to be punished, and its not so much God punished Jesus - Jesus stood in our place and took on our punishment - punishment that was ours .......not his Jesus cries out on the cross My GOD My GOD why has though forsaken me? - (which literally means why have you abandoned me ) There had to be separation on the cross - JESUS and his Father for the first time were separated, so that Jesus could take on the sin of the world, standing in our place taking on our sin, our punishment so that we may be spared the pain of death and have eternal life - Jesus himself cries out with the pain of separation from his Father........ for the first and only time this has happened

[@golove3204]

@@DavidPawsonMinistry Thank you for taking the time to reply. David indeed does say that the cup Jesus prayed about in the garden was the cup of God's anger. And I'm very familiar with this teaching of "why hast Thou forsaken me?" In Hebrew culture, it is very common to refer to a book of the Bible or a passage by the first few words. While no one can know for sure, it is possible that Christ was crying out those words to refer to the 22nd psalm. It is also possible that He indeed felt separated from his Father due to the sin He carried. But this does not necessitate that the Father actually abandoned him. Especially in light of Psalm 22:24. You did not address that verse. But prior to the 1100s, no one taught the wrath of God on Christ on the cross. That in itself should be concerning.

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@@golove3204 Hi sadly we are no longer able to ask David for his opinion on this topic but I do consider it a very important point and have reached out to someone I trust and respect who is knowledgable in Bible Teaching. The answer iI received is rather detailed and to long to post here but I would be happy to share with you if you email me at [e-mail]

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Email sent. Thank you.

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@@golove3204 But He did. God indeed punished Jesus on our behalf. Infant the Bible says it's pleased Him to crush His own Son (see Isaiah 53:10). The cup was indeed the cup of God's wrath (Isaiah 51:22; Jeremiah 25:15; Obadiah 16) not for anything He (Jesus) did but for what we did. You need to understand that Jesus was a substitute just like an animal sacrifice was a substitute in the Old Testament. That means He took our place. This means God treated Him as He would us, punished Him as He would us, was angry with Him so He would not be angry with us anymore, forsook Him so He would never forsake us again, condemned Him to death so we would be justified, killed Him so we could live. On the cross, God was not dealing with His Son, He was dealing with us and our sin. Infact Paul says God made Jesus sin itself (2 Corinthians 5:21). And where did this start? At the garden. At the garden, Jesus had began to take upon Himself our sins which culminated at the cross where He bore God's punishment for all of them on our behalf. He became the ransom. Our payment. He paid for our sins (not His). Thats why the Bible says in Psalms 69:4 that He restored that which He took not away. Because God is just, our sins could not go unpunished but because He is love, He punished His Son in our place. I must say to really understand this, you need to study Isreal's sacrificial system because they all foreshadowed the ultimate sacrifice, Jesus.