Jet Battles Are A Special Place

[@nuclear_slimebot]

Top tier battles will always be a place known for pain and suffering

[@Sevastous]

That's ground RB, Air RB will be a place of ''I don't know anythin about flying''

[@kalebd5864]

In AB and RB its just a Fuckfest full of meme Potential. In SIM it is insane spawncosts, low rewards and constantly getting teamkilled by idiots who fire missiles at anything that moves as soon as they see a single enemy on their radar.

[@kayho2]

I swear in GF everything over BR 2.3 isn't fun to me anymore. Repair costs are just bs

[@arcturus960]

@@kayho2 how

[@_MORG_PL]

In Ground RB? Yes, but when it comes to Air RB it's actually not that bad. The battles are quite enjoyable. You simply take off and get directly to the battle without gaining altitude for 15 minutes or sideclimbing.

[@julekgorecki1102]

Early jets are a place of such tomfoolery its hard to comprehand. Half the team rips their wings off, the other half cant hit anything becouse suddenly everything moves 400kph faster than they are used to. (I am in the group which rips the wings. Sea Meteor gang)

[@13deadghosts]

And then there is the Su-11 (On an unrelated note, I wish any Su-11 to fucking crash, burn and die)

[@CetoFreakingKaiba]

that's what happens when you give a plane with prop wings insane jet thrust

[@eklhaft4531]

When everything moves 400km/h faster but your bullets move 200m/s slower. Mig 15 bis (Germany) in a nutshell.

[@threemountainsgaming7560]

@@13deadghosts you don't just wish that to su11, that's actually what happens to them an awful lot of times. or should i say, an amazing lot of times.

[@squillz8310]

@@threemountainsgaming7560 I've unfortunately rarely seen an Su-11 crash and burn. That's just in my personal experience trying to spade all of the Tier 5 aircraft

[@voldenrudvek9661]

That 163 pilot making the plane look too realistic for wt. Dying before you're anywhere near an enemy is ridiculous

[@eklhaft4531]

About a year ago they completely changed the behaviour of the 163 on the runway. If you have the 163 try. It's impossible to take off without flaps and with them you gotta be very careful. Also sometimes you spawn rotated 45° to the runway and this plane just isn't very good at taxiing or changing direction on the ground. Sometimes there is a random bump on rhe runway and you just die even though you did everything right.

[@matrim1762]

50-60% throttle and set your flaps to landding, around 170mph you will take off with out the bouncing and fireball death

[@adorable_rookie_69]

😂 that shit was so relatable

[@_aleda_]

the jet is broken it's not his fault

[@heeholee216]

The only thing that is historically accurate

[@somerandomguy___]

2:17 this guy literally cut through that plane with his wing literal sky samurai lmao

[@artos9406]

Arado moment

[@GingerNinja__]

3:20 You know, I legit saw a harrier gr1 once who every match took his bombs to the nearest base, dropped them pinpoint precision from like 3km up in level flight, and then pointed his nose directly at the nearest enemy airplane, bot or player, and launched all 4 SRAAMs as soon as lock was achieved, regardless of range to target. Just kept nose on target till the harrier died. There actual fucking grinding scripts being run on some of these accounts. Actual bots, unironically.

[@dzheliezniak]

Dropping bombs with pinpoint accuracy in level flight is easy in Harriers because they have CCRP, you just set the target, keep the nose on the green line and hold bomb release, they will release automatically, that's how it works in real planes as well. It's free XP and you need to bind and press, like, 1 button to do it.

[@KM_OwO]

If you want to spot grinding bots play the B18 in sweden. I guarantee you everyone is named shit like xsdfsdf

[@d_cst4190]

CCRP exists

[@threemountainsgaming7560]

That time 3 fighters couldn't take down a sabre who's missing the entire left wing for several minutes...

[@kingghidorah8106]

don't blame them, MiG guns suck a lot used on straight forward shots because of the spread. They're better used on deflections

[@threemountainsgaming7560]

@@kingghidorah8106 really? well, as a german main, after suffering with mk108s the mig guns were amazing from the first battle.

[@gian.4388]

F-86 without a whole wing should crash into the ground, no way it can still fly AND wobble around like it's some spastic fucker getting electrocuted, it's been a problem since it was introduced I don't play since like a year and a half, are there still ghost F-86s running everywhere at that tier?

[@kingghidorah8106]

@@gian.4388 Most American planes can zombie back to base and still repair with half components in black, you can even flip your plane and crush the cockpit and the pilot still doesn't die.

[@kingghidorah8106]

@@threemountainsgaming7560 they're very fast compared to Mk108, however there's people that still think ADEN, DEFA and Colt Mk12 are worse That's an L for western mains.

[@BananaPL777]

that a4e groud pounding mightve been doing a task and simply dont give a fuck, especially if he got enough ground targets killed to finish the task. I sometimes do that too

[@smigoltime]

possibly

[@niggalini]

IDK, task or no task I think it would probably be better to at least put up a struggle. But at the same time A-4E stock grind is brutal, so its understandable if there was nothing he could really do

[@simonlarsen6472]

Jet battles pros and cons. Pros: FaST Cons: A lot of stuff

[@Xiphactinus]

BR 7.7-8.3 Pros: purest guns-only jet combat in the game Cons: can't do it right now as I've not got the game installed

[@wormfrom808]

Honestly i wouldn't play jets if it wasn't for their speed. Once you get jets with afterburners, prop planes feel boring with their climb and runaway speed.

[@rifwann]

Cons :: alot of fast stuff

[@shashlik7959]

Cons: me have monke brain me not know how to use them

[@no-legjohnny3691]

Personally, I've just managed to get a few matches in my new MiG-19, and now I think I've vowed to never take out any jet above 9.0 BR, because anywhere beyond that and you start getting unbearable missile spam from 9.7/10.0 premium and tech tree jets alike that feels cannot be dodged. So unless you get flares, you WILL get a rod railed up the old tailpipe if you're anything short of very experienced in high tier jet combat.

[@zathary564]

Man youre playing russia tho, you dont know the pain of having yak 38s jump at you from the sun with missiles while youre climbing

[@no-legjohnny3691]

@@zathary564 I know, cause Russia's supposed to have all the good planes and it's still shit...

[@davidboy45]

@@no-legjohnny3691 you should memorize which planes have missiles that are hard to dodge and make an effort to stay at an angle where they can't launch at you A-5C - the missile *can* be dodged, but it's very hard to pull off. You should be able to position yourself to not get a missile fired at you in a Mig-19. AV-8A/C - the missile can be dodged with a decent bit of maneuvering, plus the AV-8s will have a hard time getting a lock on you if you maneuver a bit pre-emptively. You shouldn't be dying to these if you stay aware. GR.1 Harrier - flies basically the same as the AV-8s, so easy to deny an angle, but *if* they get an angle, you're not moving fast enough and it's launched within 1.5km, you're never going to dodge it. You can outrun the missile, but you need to be moving very fast. The Mig-19 is one of the best planes in the game, but it takes time to learn.

[@heh8825]

As someone who main the Japanese F40, yeah, it's pretty damn painful

[@jengofett1236]

Soviet tech tree mig19 gets a missile at least. I had to suffer using the german mig19 since i main germany. It takes time but its fun to fly after a while

[@shark7013]

I love the mouse shaking at 1:52, visibly losing your shit at how that bomber crumpled in on itself over a gentle tap

[@smigoltime]

yep xD

[@Gypples]

Earlier jet gameplay is great. Had a buccaneer game where an enemy f105 bombed our base and proceeded to just fly up beside me to say hi and good luck before passing me. Scared the hell out of me to look over and just see an f105 out the cockpit window though, lmao

[@threemountainsgaming7560]

the me163 can't stop falling apart midair for five seconds. Neg G + left roll instantly kills the wing at 700kph. I legit die more to ripping than to actual enemies. Edit: the me163 players are not to blame for failing to take off. It's so fucking rng, with full pull and landing flaps it mostly lets you take off but sometimes you snap to the ground anyway for no reason

[@smigoltime]

idk, throughout the entire spading process of Ki-200, I havent crashed a single time. Just use landing flaps and keep pulling up as hard as possible

[@quarreneverett4767]

Back before some of the recent updates the me 163 handled fine and didnt rip so easily if at all and taking of was fine. But recently there is difficulty taking off

[@quarreneverett4767]

@@smigoltime yeah

[@matrim1762]

50-60% throttle and set your flaps to landding, around 170mph you will take off with out the bouncing and fireball death

[@threemountainsgaming7560]

@@smigoltime maybe it's like that on the ki200. In the me163 it sometimes just snaps to the ground anyway despite anything.

[@noer01]

In all fairness to 163 and Ki-200 pilots. The planes do like to randomly bounce and explode for no reason on the runway so, can’t fault him to much there.

[@karolbonner6937]

Realistic 163

[@Xiphactinus]

Nah that bug is fixed I think

[@merpingmerp4163]

163 enjoyer here, No

[@Past10Performance]

I mean the 163 would have the fuel tanks explode randomly so pretty realistic. The tanks were filled with acid that would litterally melt the pilot so even the crew lock adds realism lmao

[@matrim1762]

50-60% throttle and set your flaps to landding, around 170mph you will take off with out the bouncing and fireball death

[@mumpetwombat822]

I’m sad that I missed the days of sabres and migs having elegant dogfights with the odd venom here and there

[@georgekyle7906]

Those were the days, I miss them dearly

[@ikmalshahrin8854]

The amount of braincells lost at this BR is beyond our knowledge

[@wfb.subtraktor311]

especially since we are now all lacking the brain cells to have any knowledge at all

[@FlyingThunderRooster]

The worst thing about it is the insane high repair cost. I'm really bad with my only 2 jets I got unlocked, the saber(jp). I can't really practice to get somewhat better without being bankrupt, even with premium I would still get bankrupt.

[@thekspguy4421]

This kind of stuff is why I’m thankful that I had the opportunity to experience top tier jets when the F-2 Sabre , CL-13, and MiG-17 were the kings at 9.0.

[@SigmaDriver]

i just took a massive shit and now im watching this

[@sprotofka1317]

Feels like half of jet tier players were suffering in props and thought that jets might work better. LOGIC

[@stefanmichaelsenzegarra5688]

Jet players have to go through at least 100 hours of game time in order to play 9.0 Mfs with a wallet up their ass: Missiles go brrr

[@FrantisekPicifuk]

Every time I see people in premiums like this, I just imagine it's perhaps my dad trying to play a game and maybe hes having time of his life. And then I'm no longer mad, I'm just happy for them and the fact they could have fun.

[@MrBboy95]

3:41 my best guess is pilot snipe as soon he died, same way you get assist on pilot sniping already "dead" planes but still flying.

[@athanscreed2545]

Should've titled this "Clowns 3: Jets edition"

[@Sevastous]

Anyone remembers Air RB at the time T-2 just got introduced? The new playerwave buying themselves to top tier really hurt the average s̶k̶i̶l̶l̶ ̶c̶e̶i̶l̶i̶n̶g̶ ability to fly normally

[@varunkoganti9067]

I haven't been sleeping for a few days. I watched this and I kinda want to go to sleep. Thank you very much for your services Mr. Smigol. So much help

[@thamemeez5702]

when the bomber is the only guy who can aim

[@up32615948]

Ah, rank V... The gate to insanity and beyond.

[@ericbencusmagnusfabricius3499]

I always loved premium players... they help me feel better about myself

[@luclanglois9086]

Once was limping back to base with no wing in a russian mig 21, i had a mig21MF try to finish my off so i couldn't go rep,instead he rammed me and i got the kill

[@rextheamas5064]

this sums up rank 5 pretty well

[@sharkk127]

When I was getting the last 2 mods for the f4c I somehow managed to shoot down a friendly with an aim 7 from about 6 miles away while my radar was still perfectly locked on the enemy

[@Паехавший]

Unbelievable. I quit this game more then two years ago, and 163 still have a glue on its wheels...

[@Sultan-cf5wf]

2:44 lol he panic flared

[@mrsteel250]

„Why I stopped playing war thunder in 7 minutes.“

[@Phapchamp]

reminds me of a funny shit i lived while playing leo 2k. i saved an AGS from a tank and then kept moving while looking at my flank then i bumped on an enemy t-34. i was like "wait wha" and as i turned my turret he killed me. i was laughing for minutes.

[@armadillo3454]

awww leave the poor bucc alone their life is already hard enough as is XD

[@smigoltime]

I did. The IL-28 didnt xD

[@nbond-hd5db]

Feels like watching national geographic. Monkeys in their natural habitat.

[@MisterRz]

A lot of skilled players have joined air Rb as you can see presented in this video...

[@JSDFEnthusiast]

sometimes I wonder how people got to jets with the skills that they possess

[@Hadgerz]

3:20 friendlies when you're trying to secure a kill 5:29 friendlies flying in the opposite direction when you're calling for assistance yup, title checks out.

[@revolver265]

2:10 long-suffering Buccaneer players try to have fun I'm one of those people trying to bomb tailgaters in my bucc

[@joebloggs7514]

I tell you what’s really special and fun, being at 10.0 with no flares, no chaff, no RWR, no decent AAM, and an insanely large bullseye painted on your arse whilst all other nations that have the copypaste version actually have better versions than the originals. Ah the simultaneous sheer joy and pain of flying the F104A and the next USAF F104.

[@tomsonlarrson3318]

The amount of smoothbrains that launch a missile with no regards to where it would end up is insane. Doesn’t take much to look around the target for half a second to see if a friendly is pulling up their 6 cuz that missile will sure as hell lock the closer target. Have had so many times where I’ve been in a dogfight with someone and get a “friendly” missile up my exhaust due to a Neanderthal launching when he sees red

[@sages9038]

I had issues too with the 163/200, but what i realized is you have to get to about 110ish mph and angle up at the slightest and it lets you take off every time. Wastes about a minute of fuel and the whole runway though :/

[@lem0n_mint848]

Smigol, do you like F-86F-2? I discovered it recently for myself and fell in love with that plane! It's lasers are fucking insane!

[@smigoltime]

on downtiers, yes, its fun. On uptiers its pain against things like Draken, Mirage, A5C

[@LaFranceImperiale]

It's a classic now, for my part i mostly got good games but sometimes i see new players coming into premium early jets and cannot handle the speed, taking off, shoot correctly a missile and where even my grandma have a better AIM than them, try to dodge the up mid tier or play a lot with low tiers for these reasons ; Biplanes give you the principe, Monoplanes the dodge and AIM & early jets will give you a new face on how to evolve what you learn from them. Little tips -Altitude give you new possibilities for missiles and angles of attack with mg's or cannons but keep an eye on you speed when you start an offensive. (always take 3000+ in mid tier (5000alt the Airfield AA is useless)) -Close quarter is good for the speed hit & run (all depend your type of playing (i prefer the cannons) & the tier is mostly for early jets where afterburner is rare) -learn all the characteristics of your plane, the war is not fair for all. -Go on the internet & search the different doctrines and their encounter. (The stall fight is an important one) -If you get jets, take AB with a 4.0-6.0 in high tier & get a kill to have 20k silver lions free for your economy with the "divine". I am not a pro player but hope that help a little, otherwise thanks captain Obvious.

[@MisticMonki]

Huang_XiaoGuo trying their best to hit you with that insane internet cafe ping

[@smigoltime]

XDDDD

[@bluepanda2573]

hey smigol my friend just say you playing and i gotta say that video is gonna be good(he was the one who was putting polish in the chat of an american server)

[@fennisiaw]

3:39 Yo wtf. I just saw that Gator dude in game while I was flying the MiG-15 and he was in an La-200

[@adder3597]

Ah, so it isn't just me who's had funky graphics problems this patch!

[@17CallmeLucky]

I love your music taste, do you have spotify or a playlist on yt?

[@smigoltime]

I dont no. But that's some ide, I could probably make a playlist of all the songs I listen to

[@chris.tarlagias]

I see mongol on thumbnail. I click

[@mohammadshehada267]

1:00 I know they is bug with Me163 but didn’t know it’s with G91 😂😂

[@xyron5418]

Never flying the me163 again, it just doesn’t want to take off

[@smigoltime]

use landing flaps lol

[@OtterMusician]

I can tell you're laughing at 1:45 because of the camera movement lol

[@smigoltime]

I was laughing hard xDD

[@gopniksaurolophus6354]

A-4E pilots really out there flying like NPCs

[@balazsbelavari7556]

imagine having a normal vertical fight in wt

[@mr.k7457]

The grind to get to jets just kills so many braincells

[@smigoltime]

Dont grind them then lol, jets arent fun

[@luiswarthunderyt]

And this is why my allies are enemies and my enemies are friends

[@anaverageguy3022]

Playing the insanely expensive J29f you notice Isreal players are on another world when playing Air.

[@breezygamer1179]

Low tier jet battles are always so fun. Recently I’ve been having a great time with the FJ-4B (tech tree one) I air rb

[@Strikemaster72]

0:50 I’m in the g91. I’m in your vid and I have that clip from my point of view on my channel

[@C76Caravan]

Not sure, but that F-105D missile teamkill can also be Gaijin's weird lock-on mechanic... Have had that happen one time to me too... Missile spools up, continues to stay locked on enemy, then right as I click fire, it switches lock to friendly (despite enemy not moving in any way that would've reduced their heat signature)

[@IHaevATajpo]

It’s ridiculous how compressed jets battles are, like I was once in a F-84B and saw a god damn javelin in a match

[@poopstick924]

Bc the javelin is bad

[@IHaevATajpo]

Doesn’t it have missiles

[@IHaevATajpo]

Also it is stupid how a jet can face either WW2 jets or supersonics

[@poopstick924]

@@IHaevATajpo yeah it has missiles but that doesn't make it good. Early missiles are really easy to dodge, you just have to make sure to keep an eye on planes behind you so you actually notice the missile and have time to dodge it

[@IHaevATajpo]

@@poopstick924 Me-262s don’t have it really easy dodging missiles

[@Drakuba]

But didnt you heard? the higher BR you play the more skill (lol) you have

[@thetrollman6596]

No, the A4s didn't see because of the new North Korean stealth mig 15 that literally makes ur plane invisible

[@moroblizniak4457]

0:16 holy shiet.. new sounds are awesome

[@Lynxium_]

My only jet other than a 262 being the A4E Early, I rip my wings way too much. Lots of fooling around happens too.

[@henrique2456]

A special type of planes forever cursed by repair costs

[@H-cranky]

smigol if i saw you in a battle, i would just turn on smoke and be friendly

[@romanluckett833]

Hey smigol did u know bunny rabbits do quite well in the cold?

[@randomt-9034]

I've been convinced that top tier jets eat half of my brains, premiums add 25% more

[@TheCommissarIsDead]

1:18 the enthusiasm 1:19 pain

[@wb-4117]

i just drank milk 30 mins ago at lunch

[@smigoltime]

nice, I just ate a mushroom soup

[@wb-4117]

@@smigoltime was it good?

[@smigoltime]

@@wb-4117 yes, very

[@wb-4117]

@@smigoltime epic

[@r-saint]

- Awesome! - Gramercy.

[@peters2928]

I think the A-4s just gave up on life and decided to get ai kills before inevitable death.

[@HospitalBed-]

i just got my first jet it's the squadron me 262 and boy was it fun and playing as early jets is unique there is not that many AAM locking at you and you still use conventional weapons like autocannons and machine gun and the new feeling of going more than 500+ km/h is just new to me :D (also the airspawn is really usefull smh)

[@enginseerljonid]

for me, currently stuck at the J29A, jet battles are pure pain

[@szpicu5063]

The top tier maches are pure Pain thunder

[@thomasmacdonough288]

I feel like the only time I see my own teammates is A. When I crit an enemy plane and they suddenly appear to gangbang it B. When they accidentally throw AAMs up my ass

[@quarreneverett4767]

To be fair the me 163 is kinda fucked up right now. It physically prevents you from taking off you gotta try to wiggle it and other tricks and hope that it let's you

[@alexanderarrieta8433]

2:20 this is how planes are made

[@kretobojca]

All top tier games look like this, cuz 60% of players just bought their place. Ever since they added first top tier premiums... Look at the scoreboard at every premium vehicle and check the rank of player. I bet it would be 15 or 30lvl in most cases

[@nattis2053]

Nice afterburner

[@thisisonlyadream]

this video needs a trigger warning for pilots

[@ganjaman59650]

Wait they still haven't fixed me 163 "landing gear" ??? (you stuck on the ground and if you try to take off eventually you craft before liftoff) This bug have been there for years...

[@majesticeaglesasquatch7324]

I love how they're so kill-hungry they won't even let a crippled Sabre make its way home. Goodness, this player base sure is pathetic (most of the time).

[@grzegorzleszczenski50]

Its gaijin fault for turning this game into grind simulator. I remember times when after killing 3 enemy planes, surviving battle and winning you got 50k in non premium plane on RB

[@Kammyl]

Top tier rn is all about surviving missiles, still tho you might get missiled because you didnt check your surroundings for 5 seconds.

[@mr_piesel_pl9058]

Dude, jets are like Hunger games between teams full of premiums. A few weeks ago I was flying a vampire, they shot my whole wing off, but i made 2 or 3 frags, because noone was paying attention. In conclusion: #jetsLITERALLYUNPLAYABLE

[@LeAoZiM024]

I remember the time where the MiG-15bis and the F-86 where the top dogs in this game, idk if its just me, but I also remember there being waaaay less "incapable" players, lets put it that way.

[@smigoltime]

I agree 100%

[@highfivedog2336]

I’m almost at jets, I am so so close. I bet I’ll get to jets before you make that p-51 d-30 video, huh.

[@drybeans0000]

one time i had this mig21's wing but after that it got stolen by a premium draken and just 2 seconds after i got teamkilled by another premium draken's missile that was trying to steal my kill the game is just one big circus at this point

[@lunacae18]

Don't bully the 163, man You have to get exceedingly lucky to be able to take off with it atm, unless they finally fixed it

[@_grand_alchemic_]

6:05 - «Копы не любят меня, потому-то я чёрный!»

[@JacobLynch26]

You should try to see how many people can land on a bv238

[@Miles26545]

I… totally am excited for my first jets. Mmhmm. Although you make it look so easy :) You grinding China now? Also: thoughts on the Israel nation?

[@smigoltime]

Im not grinding China since there's no point to, and same goes to Israel from me. It's pointless, literal copy paste vehicles (apart from some top tier ones)

[@randomd8266]

Gaijin: Grind is slow and painful for players to learn the game at a good pace Gaijin: GET YOUR PREMIUM ISRAELI JET FOR ONLY YOUR FIRST BORN CHILD! I love to see first generation jets fight against them missile bois of vietnam

[@CarryPotter007]

"lets see if I can first try this" "shit!" "noooooooooooooooooo" "IM SORRY" god I miss the chat in war thunder :')

[@brentonherbert7775]

My favourite thing about A4 players is how often they like to pop flares.... against planes that cant even carry missiles..... Yes pop flares that will save you from the ME163.

[@МужскоеГосударство-е5к]

163 is actually a missile

[@Crysis315]

2:16 well ı never though my clanmates so stupid now I have evidence

[@decky5195]

fun the same day you put this out is the same day i used the whole day toching ppls tips in my SU11 just fly next to them and touch the tip