Jetlike Evolution Is A Speed Machine On A Budget

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@blaze6655
@blaze6655 8 ай бұрын
We’ve owned ours since 2018 and all I can say is I’m in love with it. It’s a winged greyhound that is fast and efficient that gets you cross country fast and in comfort. Basically it’s a 4 seat airliner. At cruise altitude with its 18:1 glide ratio you are within glide range of an airport in the continental U.S. What else can make that claim? I moved up from a Cessna Turbo Cardinal RG which I flew for 20 years prior and the transition was pretty manageable. I fly ours about 150 hrs a year (mostly for business) and feel very comfortable with it. Operating costs too are quite reasonable. Now the down side: This is serious transportation where you’re mixing it up with the bigger iron up in the flight levels. Things happen faster than in lower and slower piston platforms and the avionics/automation (G1000/GFC700) has a fairly steep learning curve at least it was for me. If you aren’t proficient with it or get behind the plane you can get into trouble fast. This is not your casual Sunday go around the patch plane. This is a fast serious XC transportation that requires proficiency, good habits, experience and the discipline to use and fly by checklists. If you’re not committed to learning it’s systems, getting good transition & recurrent training (David Robinson at Elite Pilot Services) and fly it enough to stay proficient then the Evo isn’t for you.
@DefenseCriminal
@DefenseCriminal 8 ай бұрын
Thanks.. I had about 1000 hours in Cirrus in 2017. I almost put a deposit down to do my own build in Oregon if I remember correctly. Lancair sent a demo pilot in one to Chicago for me to try. I was super impressed, but again, there was a Jet A smell in the cabin. I also flew to Saint Louis to test fly a used 2011 I believe, same thing. I read on the LOBO forums that the Jet A thing in the cabin was related to the extended range tanks. Right around that time there was the windshield incident and the fatal in Mesa Arizona and I passed. I think the insurance was going to be pretty high also. Austin Meyer built one (with the PT-6-42 powerplant) and his website has a ton of useful info on his experience with it.
@blaze6655
@blaze6655 8 ай бұрын
@@DefenseCriminal we have the extended tank in the back as well. When we purchased ours it didn’t have the Aux tank and given our extended range mission (non-stop from Minneapolis to LA) we had it added. Upon return to service testing, a JetA smell was noted in the cabin and upon investigation a small leak around the new aux fuel pump under the rear pax floorboard was found. It was promptly fixed. No smell ever since. Perfectly fine. So the one you tested sounds like it had an open squawk like ours and should have been sent back to maintenance for investigation and correction.
@koltsloan4774
@koltsloan4774 7 ай бұрын
How does insurance cost for it look and how many hours do you have
@rprice33
@rprice33 7 ай бұрын
What’s the icing system like? I only saw prop heat. Alcohol/gel ?
@snorttroll4379
@snorttroll4379 7 ай бұрын
they should dumb down the computers so there is no learning curve. a learning curve is indicative of a failed product user experience. things can be explained when needed in the software and even on the plane.
@PatrickDuffy-u3s
@PatrickDuffy-u3s 8 ай бұрын
No such thing as a plane on a 'budget', either you are rich enough not to care about the price, or you can't afford it.
@Gratefulwon
@Gratefulwon 8 ай бұрын
This. I had to literally LOL when he said he was seriously considering it…
@visanion1361
@visanion1361 8 ай бұрын
If i had 100 mil cash i would still care about the price......its about getting a good deal!!!!and when you made your own money trust me you care!!!! especially if its not a necessity like for me.....for me the plane is a passion....i can live without it but i want it.I do around 50-60 hours a year maximum 80-90.But when the covid restrictions were on was i happy:))) i could go wherever i wanted and there were no people:))) best year ever:)))
@visanion1361
@visanion1361 8 ай бұрын
Sure the first 3-4 years i was doing ,200-250 hours a year but you get bored just like with a car:)))
@TecnamTwin
@TecnamTwin 8 ай бұрын
​@@visanion1361Judging by your punctuation alone, you're never going to get to that level.
@visanion1361
@visanion1361 8 ай бұрын
@@TecnamTwin im not English friend...its normal in my language....not everyone is english....fukin westerners.....can speak only one language and have the nerve to correct a foreigner.I speak 5 languages how many do you speak????
@TruckinTrader1
@TruckinTrader1 8 ай бұрын
Shoot! I should have looked for you there! This is a great plane!
@prilep5
@prilep5 8 ай бұрын
It’s that sweet spot of price performance and efficiency
@fromthefuture9353
@fromthefuture9353 8 ай бұрын
good video, Sir. Keep them coming.
@flyer617
@flyer617 8 ай бұрын
The Evolution is definitely an awesome plane.
@glsego
@glsego 8 ай бұрын
Another great video Mike. Thanks
@JCsaves333
@JCsaves333 8 ай бұрын
Love the Pratt and Whitney turbine engines, a great reliable engine. This plane rocks and so do you Mike!! Good seeing you there right after you completed your video. Thanks for the picture!Allan from Canada 👍🏻
@AllenPortman
@AllenPortman 8 ай бұрын
Beautiful! All I can ever do is dream to fly a plane like this one! As close as I can come is flying the Evolution in my X-plane simmer 🤑
@anjinsanx44
@anjinsanx44 8 ай бұрын
U n me both !!! Thank god for PC sims!
@RobR4455
@RobR4455 8 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@kenney5454
@kenney5454 8 ай бұрын
That is a Sleek and Beautiful Plane, Looks Super Fast just sitting there!
@Dbiggs10
@Dbiggs10 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for the details such a wonderful bird
@stevespessard2306
@stevespessard2306 8 ай бұрын
Love the enthusiasm!
@g-asplendidsavage1700
@g-asplendidsavage1700 8 ай бұрын
Wow, what an airplane good job and thanks for the tour ?
@aldohattonduran5227
@aldohattonduran5227 8 ай бұрын
Beautiful plane 🛬 ty big mike! Still the best aviation channel 😀
@Pilotc180
@Pilotc180 8 ай бұрын
They are built 10 miles from my house; this is one pretty speed machine
@setts3
@setts3 8 ай бұрын
Excellent vid Mike. A great kite indeed.
@markf-arquharson3316
@markf-arquharson3316 8 ай бұрын
Thanks...... Great Fast airplane!!!!
@osue69
@osue69 8 ай бұрын
😎👍 High speed, low drag.
@terencetaylor4600
@terencetaylor4600 8 ай бұрын
Beautiful.
@jpchiesa
@jpchiesa 7 ай бұрын
Outstanding job! The company could use you as a Rep!
@AC-jk8wq
@AC-jk8wq 8 ай бұрын
Mike, your excitement is off the charts in this video! Does JMB have a presence in the US, or did everything move to Europe? 😃
@alexdarcydestsimon3767
@alexdarcydestsimon3767 8 ай бұрын
Pure guess : why get import tax on a product that is mainly sold in the U.S and can be made in the U.S too ? Nothing is going to move. Maybe one more assembly line in Europe because JMB already has the facility there but that's it. The good thing is JMB knows its stuff, their vl3 lsa is a great success...very much inspired from the Lancair.
@DavidRobinson-zm8cf
@DavidRobinson-zm8cf 8 ай бұрын
No import taxes, it’s built with JMB factory assist at their facility in Czech. This partnership is the best thing that’s happened to Evolution since it was just a design on paper. I couldn’t be more excited or confident about this new direction. Stay tuned!!
@frankdiii1223
@frankdiii1223 8 ай бұрын
I absolutely love your videos! You're definitely one of the very best ones out there doing it! Thank you for them. Keep them coming!!!!
@entropicdoom8018
@entropicdoom8018 7 ай бұрын
Mojo, can you find and LX7 and give us your opinion on where it fits?
@michaelsparks6084
@michaelsparks6084 7 ай бұрын
Absolutely Stunning!❤
@BluBlade-k7b
@BluBlade-k7b 7 ай бұрын
The Prescott pusher would be my choice , something more like I could afford still has many good points .
@nevillecreativitymentor
@nevillecreativitymentor 8 ай бұрын
Hey Mojo, thanks for the cool video. I have been a Cirus Vision fan ... ut it looks like I am switching teams !! CHEERS Dark Arrow was a thought for a bit ..
@jimharris212
@jimharris212 8 ай бұрын
Hopefully JMB can revitalize the plane. I know they are working hard at it, but still much to be done. Insurance costs will be a big issue until they can get more flight hours logged.
@hughmarloweverest1684
@hughmarloweverest1684 Ай бұрын
Thank you
@august64314
@august64314 8 ай бұрын
Sick airplane
@DefenseCriminal
@DefenseCriminal 8 ай бұрын
I was going to build or buy one before Lancair went out of business. I demo’d 3 of them. All 3 had the smell of jet A in the cabin. There is good info on the LOBO forum. If they have the extended range fuel tanks you get Jet A fumes in the cabin
@blaze6655
@blaze6655 8 ай бұрын
Not true. I own one ( N13PF) that has the auxiliary tank in the back and we have no smell whatsoever. And I fly her a lot. Nothing better out there.
@DefenseCriminal
@DefenseCriminal 8 ай бұрын
@@blaze6655 0:35 You own one and never heard of this issue? Was it something that has been rectified? I’m not making this up
@EVOT-N621SS
@EVOT-N621SS Ай бұрын
@@DefenseCriminalI also have an EVO with an Aux tank no fuel vapor issue There is a aux fuel tank vent at the top of the Vstab above the rudder.
@jacttackle57
@jacttackle57 7 ай бұрын
Sweet ride love the channel it gets me excited about aviation
@moore4615
@moore4615 8 ай бұрын
Cool plane, well done my friend. I want one.
@nemo227
@nemo227 8 ай бұрын
This is the ideal airplane for MojoGrip. This is the one he should be flying. Fly to KWVI and lunch is my treat.
@paulcanon5533
@paulcanon5533 8 ай бұрын
Nice plane, good video description.
@bitsaeng8644
@bitsaeng8644 8 ай бұрын
When you see the spec sheet, the Vne (never exceed speed) is 474km/h but cruise speed is 555 km/h. Error perhaps?
@flaviocoste898
@flaviocoste898 8 ай бұрын
Vne is KIAS (indicated airspeed) vs. Cruise speed which is KTAS (True Airspeed)
@thammanoonkamfunt5470
@thammanoonkamfunt5470 6 ай бұрын
Amazing aircraft
@RAo-hx8jc
@RAo-hx8jc 8 ай бұрын
The big piston is nice too . Or the small turbine Good range . I bet that 67 is insane though
@vullom29
@vullom29 7 ай бұрын
The fact that it has 4 seats is amazing
@SouthernUtahLifestyle
@SouthernUtahLifestyle 7 ай бұрын
May be a weird take but it reminds me of later versions of the FW 190. Super nicr
@chrislovett6120
@chrislovett6120 8 ай бұрын
That’s a definitely a beautiful airplane
@abuzerkadayf8496
@abuzerkadayf8496 8 ай бұрын
Whats operation cost for a year?
@shaunclark7532
@shaunclark7532 8 ай бұрын
The issue is actually buying this thing, I'm spoken to the factory and they haven't even delivered their first one yet, they seem very excited by their VL3 and I wonder how committed they are long term to actually making these, I would love to buy this but I'm concerned about long term viability given their current focus being elsewhere. Did you get a chance to ask them about this at the event?
@blaze6655
@blaze6655 8 ай бұрын
3 in production as we speak. JMB is ramping up production. It’s not an overnight thing.
@shaunclark7532
@shaunclark7532 8 ай бұрын
@@blaze6655 complete agree they told me they will be out next year.
@DaveFromBrooklyn
@DaveFromBrooklyn 8 ай бұрын
Some cockpit with that turbine?
@wtlifsey
@wtlifsey 8 ай бұрын
I have owned and flown both the -135 and the -42 versions. I prefer the -42 powerplant.
@wtlifsey
@wtlifsey 8 ай бұрын
In a climb to FL280 the -42 is able to maintain a higher rate of climb all the way up....
@pauloesperon7697
@pauloesperon7697 8 ай бұрын
What do you do for a living? I'd love to be able to at some point
@blaze6655
@blaze6655 8 ай бұрын
We have the -135A and I tend to agree. At FL280 the -135A is working pretty hard to maintain 270+KTAS. The -42 however is not working nearly as hard on about the same fuel burn at that altitude. The bottom line is the -42 will last longer and be less costly to maintain.
@wtlifsey
@wtlifsey 8 ай бұрын
@@blaze6655 The best explanation I have heard for that fact is that the -42 has two power turbine wheels versus 1 for the -135 and therefore get more of the energy out of the gas flow
@Flips44
@Flips44 7 ай бұрын
Great video bro
@chuckhalen9543
@chuckhalen9543 8 ай бұрын
After the actual cost, plus paying for the certs to bring you up to speed to even consider flying a high performance aircraft, this is NOT a budget airplane at all! At least not for common folk! Let’s keep it in reality Mojo! But, I absolutely support your purchase of one! 👍🏽💯
@snorttroll4379
@snorttroll4379 7 ай бұрын
what is needed for these to go just under 1000 kmh? do you just need more power and swept wings?
@locusCeruleus
@locusCeruleus 8 ай бұрын
Is it Fiki? If not I could see getting into A lot of trouble in a hurry
@blaze6655
@blaze6655 8 ай бұрын
There are options to put boots on it or thermal deice. That said the best ice protection is its ability to fly high over almost all icing layers and its then its ability to quickly transit up and down thru the icing layers due to its phenomenal climb and decent rates. We fly ours out of Minneapolis and icing layers here are a fact of life.
@HayesTech
@HayesTech 4 ай бұрын
I think it's a very good looking airplane. I would own one, if it were already made and ready to go
@Vantage79
@Vantage79 8 ай бұрын
Have you had the chance to fly one yet? Nice looking plane!!
@anewrnn
@anewrnn 7 ай бұрын
Any storage area?
@LokiDWolf
@LokiDWolf 8 ай бұрын
We have the same taste. I think every plane you've showcased I love it too! LOL And now, this one is added to the list. I love TBM's. But, this would be a great plane to have to me. I hope it's added into MSFS 2024. I'm 6'0" and the backseat does concern me. I would have to hope that the pilot and/or co-pilot are shorter than me. Heh Oh wait, I'll be the pilot! Nevermind.
@blaze6655
@blaze6655 8 ай бұрын
I own one and there is a ton of room in the back as Mike states. I’m 6’0” 220lbs and I’m comfortable sitting back there. It’s a legitimate 4 adult pax plane plus a decent amount of storage in the back.
@leebooth9797
@leebooth9797 6 ай бұрын
Really nice
@izazroosalizazroosal
@izazroosalizazroosal 8 ай бұрын
🎉🎉🎉 ACTUALLY ANOTHER GOLDEN VICTORY IN AVIATION SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY AND BEYOND. IZAZ RASOOL MOHAN BARIDHARA GULSHAN DHAKA BANGLADESH.
@vladimirs8981
@vladimirs8981 8 ай бұрын
Hi Mike, could you tell me, you made a video of Lancair Mako and Lancair LX7 in the past years. Can you tell me, the cabin area of these aircrafts, especially in rear seats are the same as in evolution aircraft? It seems to me that evolution aircraft is a little bit bigger than Lancair!
@rerobisonr
@rerobisonr 8 ай бұрын
Love your enthusiasm. Keep it up! I’m curios as to why you didn’t say anything about the LX7 that was developed to correct some of the flaws in the Evolution and previous versions of the Lancair IV.
@kelvinleigh
@kelvinleigh 8 ай бұрын
Does this plane have FIKI?
@patrickrohle1686
@patrickrohle1686 8 ай бұрын
Nice Video, nice aircraft! What do you think about the LX7 Piston/LX7 Turboprop?
@denniswilliams2385
@denniswilliams2385 7 ай бұрын
So you’ve never even flown in it let alone piloted it and you highly recommend it?
@jimmorris8334
@jimmorris8334 8 ай бұрын
So some one bought the rights to the old Lancair Evolution. It has way under designed front landing gear. It was a kit build with Factory help at Lancair. Not sure how many they made before Lancair went under.
@DavidRobinson-zm8cf
@DavidRobinson-zm8cf 8 ай бұрын
Lancair didn’t go under. And the same owner still owns Evolution Aircraft Company, but they broke apart and sold off all the Lancair assets to focus solely on the Evo. They have partnered with JMB Aircraft
@DavidRobinson-zm8cf
@DavidRobinson-zm8cf 8 ай бұрын
As for any Nose-gear issues, those were all resolved years ago! We haven’t seen any issues like that for a long time. Happy to discuss all this with you, reach out if you have questions.
@atWay.
@atWay. 8 ай бұрын
Hooray you did a video from the back seat its got the lenght just a lil narrow, the next best value is the Velocity at 250kts or DA50 albeit slower. Thanks 🙌
@joesillamanrs7189
@joesillamanrs7189 8 ай бұрын
It's a sweet design
@stewie84
@stewie84 8 ай бұрын
Do you just like MARPAT, or were you in the Marines??
@RR-pw5nb
@RR-pw5nb 8 ай бұрын
On a "budget"? A budget of several million bucks, plus YOU have to build it yourself, it's a KIT.
@HighPowerOptionsTrades
@HighPowerOptionsTrades 8 ай бұрын
What about air taxis and why aren’t these equipped with radio or television for entertainment like a land vehicle even comfort ?
@fudogwhisperer3590
@fudogwhisperer3590 8 ай бұрын
Can it come with de ice boots or bleed air?
@DavidRobinson-zm8cf
@DavidRobinson-zm8cf 8 ай бұрын
It comes with a parachute and deice standard
@kdavidsmith1
@kdavidsmith1 8 ай бұрын
Id love to see this aircraft with a single seat or a tandem seat configuration. Make it more like a fighter than a family aircraft.
@gingrasj
@gingrasj 8 ай бұрын
Mike Patey’s Turbulence did it.
@kdavidsmith1
@kdavidsmith1 8 ай бұрын
@@gingrasj link?
@abee3515
@abee3515 7 ай бұрын
This one is not in the beholder it's just dead sexy.
@Dan_C604
@Dan_C604 8 ай бұрын
Correct me please, but at that altitude… does it have de icing wings?
@mojogrip
@mojogrip 8 ай бұрын
Yes it does. not certified but it does have deicing equipment.
@genelong1748
@genelong1748 8 ай бұрын
It is a beautiful aircraft
@ryguy6921
@ryguy6921 8 ай бұрын
Nice video, I still prefer the pc12 😅.
@BayAreaCowboy
@BayAreaCowboy 8 ай бұрын
Hey Mike what about the LX7? That plane has a turboprop and it’s just as fast and costs way less. Can you talk about it or make another video on the LX7? It would be nice to see you fly both piston and turbo prop versions.
@DavidRobinson-zm8cf
@DavidRobinson-zm8cf 8 ай бұрын
Actually it doesn’t cost less, and it’s not in the same ballpark as the Evo. From cabin size to the refinement of the plane, they are worlds apart.
@BayAreaCowboy
@BayAreaCowboy 8 ай бұрын
@@DavidRobinson-zm8cf according to RDD the company in Oregon who makes the LX7 is does cost less. I know its a bit smaller. But it holds 4 people and some bagage. It is fast as well. They offer 3 or 4 turbo prop engine choices or you can go with a 350hp turbocharged Lycoming piston engine. The LX7 is an amazing plane. Ithink its faster as well. There are many videos of it in youtube. Including one that Mike did a few years back.
@pauljohnson2372
@pauljohnson2372 8 ай бұрын
Sweet whip
@SuperTrb0
@SuperTrb0 8 ай бұрын
The fact that their demo aircraft is 12 years old tells me everything I need to know about the health of that company. Sorry I’m not spending turbo prop money on a garage built aircraft put together on a shoe string budget.
@gingrasj
@gingrasj 8 ай бұрын
Cause ya can’t afford it
@SuperTrb0
@SuperTrb0 8 ай бұрын
@@gingrasj Is that why your grammar is so bad because you couldn’t afford to go to school?
@ashaikh95
@ashaikh95 8 ай бұрын
Isnt this a JMB Evolution, and not a Lancair Evolution like you mentioned?
@mattcoug
@mattcoug 8 ай бұрын
JMB made an agreement with Lancair in 2022 to start manufacturing the Evolution going forward
@Gratefulwon
@Gratefulwon 8 ай бұрын
Seriously considering? You have 4 million just kicking around?
@coolbreeze2.0-mortemadfasc13
@coolbreeze2.0-mortemadfasc13 8 ай бұрын
Plenty of people have that money available especially if you’re using it for a business.
@davidkottman3440
@davidkottman3440 7 ай бұрын
Many have it, most do not.
@siroccowind736
@siroccowind736 8 ай бұрын
It's cruise speed is 300kts at altitude. I'm surprised it's max indicated airspeed is just 256kts. It looks like it would have a higher VNE than that. My Glasair 3's VNE is 291kts. But look at what those 3s did in Reno. Way over that. And with pumped up piston power.
@frisk151
@frisk151 8 ай бұрын
Poor Mojo! Still at Sun N Fun! ;). I LOVE this plane too!!! Talk about super high performance! But, does it come with a 'parachute'? :p It is deceptively roomy...
@DavidRobinson-zm8cf
@DavidRobinson-zm8cf 8 ай бұрын
Yes sir, all the new Evo’s will come standard with BRS parachute and deice boots.
@Mikell-h2c
@Mikell-h2c 8 ай бұрын
Budget ?
@MAGApepe
@MAGApepe 8 ай бұрын
amazing bird,,, think they even have a vl3 2 seat turbine :))
@jeremyjones2191
@jeremyjones2191 8 ай бұрын
Man that makes me want some mini thins now 😂
@andrewbonica3ds
@andrewbonica3ds 8 ай бұрын
I love it! But at that price, I’d rather have a TBM for more space, in spite of the fuel burn.
@MTFBOEING737NG
@MTFBOEING737NG 7 ай бұрын
Nice toy !
@ditto1958
@ditto1958 7 ай бұрын
Yes, beauty is subjective. I don’t particularly like the looks of this one. But it must be fun to fly it.
@arnaldoleon1
@arnaldoleon1 7 ай бұрын
I"m glad I'm not alone here! The window shape and fuselage profile looks too "bubbly" for me. The original Lancair 320 or even the IV-P are still considered some of the most beautiful aircraft ever.
@nelsonmuntz9317
@nelsonmuntz9317 7 ай бұрын
Fun fact: Originally Mike was given permission to enter the plane by a drunken trickster pretending to be the owner...the rest was edited out. True owner: HEY! WHAT you doing IN THERE! GET OUT-OUT-OF-THERE!
@epicjamaicanjokes8279
@epicjamaicanjokes8279 4 ай бұрын
I don't know about anyone but since I was a child I thought all planes had parachutes. The circus jet is my thing.
@barhammd
@barhammd 8 ай бұрын
The cost of maintain your authority to fly a turbine is never mentioned in videos about these type of aircraft
@DavidRobinson-zm8cf
@DavidRobinson-zm8cf 8 ай бұрын
It’s the same as your piston airplane. It’s an airplane, single-engine land. Insurance requires you to get annual recurrent training with an authorized instructor, which is usually a 1/2 day of training once a year.
@Eweyouhew
@Eweyouhew 8 ай бұрын
Young Mans / Test Pilot’s Airplane 🤣 Right it is fast looking 👏👏👏
@Bupkus68
@Bupkus68 8 ай бұрын
That thing is sexy. Looks like 500 kts sitting still.
@brunogt1982
@brunogt1982 8 ай бұрын
Vision Jet allday 😄
@pdspartner1
@pdspartner1 8 ай бұрын
Early on I saw this plane and fell in love with it. Beautiful and with a turbine up front, fast, fast, fast....unfortunately, it is expensive, expensive, expensive🥵
@Pushyhog
@Pushyhog 8 ай бұрын
l built an test flew first lancair 320 in nc kfay 93'-96'. With my friend.
@wadfasfsdfdsfsf
@wadfasfsdfdsfsf 8 ай бұрын
mans said "3 storey building." He is 100% naija. IYKYK
@tonusoodla4868
@tonusoodla4868 8 ай бұрын
Needs a RED V12 engine!
@Arthurplleung
@Arthurplleung 8 ай бұрын
How hard is it to insure it? 🤔
@maritestaylor8458
@maritestaylor8458 8 ай бұрын
Awesoness
@davidguerra2966
@davidguerra2966 7 ай бұрын
no elevator authority in high AOA. better be on your game on a short final
@FAA-DPE
@FAA-DPE 8 ай бұрын
The Tbm is a Ford F-150 compared to this sleek sporty rocket.
@philipcraig956
@philipcraig956 8 ай бұрын
When you said ‘on a budget’ you meant a pretty big budget, right! 😂 Seriously though, it is a stunning aircraft
@mojogrip
@mojogrip 8 ай бұрын
lol I meant on a budget for jet speak
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