Can't wait for Mathil to make a Nimis AoE scaling rolling magma build that blows up the whole screen
@presentedbyconormctappersp4565 Жыл бұрын
Probably will do Ice Spear totems or handcast variant with it. he's done Ice Spear before.
@gehirndoper Жыл бұрын
It doesn't work with rolling magma though (only the "random direction" part works, but just use sire of shards for coverage).
@seifeir6951 Жыл бұрын
It's neat that the random directions works on each bounce, maybe that mechanic itself could help with ST
@magicalmagicmagician5223 Жыл бұрын
@@gehirndoper with the "projectile can collide with terrain" from the deadeye ascendancy im pretty sure it can work with nimis
@ShadowFri3nd Жыл бұрын
Palsteron did it already, check it
@OMGItsJousis Жыл бұрын
For many of these skills, the projectiles simply return normally, which is good for clearspeed with stuff like Lightning Trap with Pierce, but most seem unreliable because of the random direction. IMO, the best use for this is with skills that shotgun. For those of you that don't know, only projectiles that expire and produce a secondary effect, like an explosion, can shotgun. You can't hit the same enemy with more than 1 GMP Fireball projectile, but the explosions can overlap and damage the same enemy multiple times. For example, if you use Caustic Arrow with GMP and fire at your feet, the 5 overlapping explosions will damage the same enemy 5 times. With Nimis, this is doubled to 10 explosions, as it explodes at the end of the travel, and again at the end of the return. This requires standing directly on top of the enemy, but 10x damage is 10x damage. Caustic Arrow is unique in that it explodes both times (and every time it pierces a target, etc). Every other skill will only explode at your location, but that's still convenient. The skills I could see that shotgun in this way are: Caustic Arrow, Shattering Steel, Tornado Shot (to little benefit), Ice Shot, Essence Drain, and Fireball. EDIT: Someone pointed out Kinetic Blast. Sounds really good. Rolling Magma looks interesting as well.
@GoingGaks Жыл бұрын
I was always curious if caustic actually dealt more. Nice to know.
@hexagonearther710 Жыл бұрын
Doesnt creeping frost also deal explosion damage that shotguns?
@iXatsyafiq Жыл бұрын
Doesn't creeping frost could also shotgun? because i see theres a ground effect on returning. Idk about creeping frost much
@quitmanwakeley9364 Жыл бұрын
Add kb to that list
@mob_psycho Жыл бұрын
Oh my god its jousis!
@purplepudding9384 Жыл бұрын
Im sad the return part doesnt seem to work with frost blades. That would have made it great for single target.
@ParadoxTetris Жыл бұрын
Yeah and slap in the face it works with Lightning Strike haha
@Evil_Arthas Жыл бұрын
Working as intended (Created this way to prevent gigafun damage)
@OmiKnight98 Жыл бұрын
decided to play frostblade this league because of this unique ring, my disappointment Is Immeasurable my day Is ruined.
@awemowe2830 Жыл бұрын
doesnt matter, returning projectiles doesnt mean the skill can hit twice in the same attack
@ArawnOfAnnwn Жыл бұрын
@@awemowe2830 It does actually. That is precisely why people wanted this capability to begin with.
@thebottlecaps5155 Жыл бұрын
Spectral helix really be like "I'm about to clock out"
@JJ-cr2oy Жыл бұрын
All skills showcase in the video is so satisfying, idk, i was head over heels for those eight minutes.
@Rawlingm Жыл бұрын
Damn was really hoping ball lightning would work :(
@macinski246 Жыл бұрын
shattering steel overlap potential lol
@kingheichan7698 Жыл бұрын
LOL, creeping frost shotgun seem very OP
@presentedbyconormctappersp4565 Жыл бұрын
Lightning Trap looks really enticing, don't think it'll ever beat the poison seismic meta, but still with this it will be quite powerful.
@ascendedsleeper5693 Жыл бұрын
With sunblast that'll be cracked.
@host8021 Жыл бұрын
Yeah actualy the alternate qual for lightning trap make the projectiles comeback but if i remember correctly it cant hit the same target twice :(
@Evil_Arthas Жыл бұрын
@@host8021 Yeah, because it has different wording, this one might work (maaaybe)
@KAJYT6969 Жыл бұрын
@@Evil_Arthas tested on standard, it can hit the same target twice
@bossl6982 Жыл бұрын
@@host8021 I'm pretty sure it can. KZbinr midmax made a lightning trap character using this mechanic
@apostleofd119 Жыл бұрын
Lancing steel can have tons Of damage if placed om right spot.
@The8bitBrawler Жыл бұрын
Finally, some good NTR content
@brandohall5116 Жыл бұрын
Wholesome ntr
@chilibringer Жыл бұрын
What's NTR
@CubeBizz Жыл бұрын
@@chilibringer netorare, basically cucking but used in hentai and JAV because their fetish names are in Japanese
@nguyentri3608 Жыл бұрын
@@CubeBizz wait, you're telling me it doesn't stand for Nimis Topaz Ring?
@CubeBizz Жыл бұрын
@@nguyentri3608 that too
@mad_sn4ck31 Жыл бұрын
I'd like to see Nimis with sire of shards, there's probably some broken interaction
@seifeir6951 Жыл бұрын
In all likelihood, random directions trumps 'in a circle' from SoS so it's just +4 projectiles
@theswamps6589 Жыл бұрын
@@seifeir6951 which would be pretty strong for some skills no?
@ChunkyCoffee Жыл бұрын
@@seifeir6951 As someone who has gotten the random altar on a cwc sire build, yes it does trump it.
@shongueesha7875 Жыл бұрын
I love you so much for making this unique. I finally saved up 32 divines and just bought it! So excited to make different builds with it!
@iAMxVV Жыл бұрын
I ran the divergent lightning trap last league and as soon as I heard about this gem I knew it would work well with it. Opens up an amulet spot since the divergent gem pretty much required a good ashes.
@chigbungus797 Жыл бұрын
i might be too stupid to comprehend the glorious uses of this ring but i do like how goofy some of the skills are with it on
@Unpixelt Жыл бұрын
Wait, did Divergent Creeping Frost just get even stronger?
@wavedash- Жыл бұрын
Rolling Magma looks pretty good, almost like Seismic Trap in that it has both good coverage and multiple hits.
@Wulfebane7 Жыл бұрын
SST, Wild Strike, Vaal Caustic Arrow, Ice Spear, Frostbolt seem the most interesting to me. Lightning Trap could be huge as well (also love the spectral helix interaction lmao)
@Asmitha90 Жыл бұрын
This is nice for clear but most laikly will fuck up single target dmg. From what i see to get max singletarget dmg you woud need to be exacly at the top of the boss witch is suecidal in many cases...
@lizardass Жыл бұрын
@@Asmitha90 shoot boss -> pierces behind -> projectile returns its that simple
@xXKorbacXx Жыл бұрын
@@lizardass Projectile are fired in a random direction > Shoot in your back > Miss the boss It's that simple
@Asmitha90 Жыл бұрын
@@lizardass YOu cant force the direction of the proj so at most 30-50% proj will hit the target...
@Wulfebane7 Жыл бұрын
@@Asmitha90 get enough proj and itll work out, but yeah might be more of a map clearing thing
@KingJerbear Жыл бұрын
What a cool item man, can't wait to see what people do with it.
@cza6254 Жыл бұрын
go home projectiles, you are drunk! *proceeds to come back "home"*
@loent97 Жыл бұрын
I would have liked to see skills like Power siphon with barrage support
@TheorycrafterTV Жыл бұрын
It'd work just like Barrage does.
@gehirndoper Жыл бұрын
Spark and Frost Blades seem like a bug. In the case of Tornado Shot, it's interesting that the primary projectile returns, which makes Nimis not useful for that. It would be important to know if the returning projectiles can shotgun.
@Evil_Arthas Жыл бұрын
Spark is intended and Fb is just not playtested enough, or tested and it deal insane damage so prevented on arrival
@angrykouhai2053 Жыл бұрын
Rolling magma was a surprise for me. I guess each bounce is coded to be a "new cast".
@bertmollar Жыл бұрын
Coc lancing steel ice spear with that ring would be insane
@lynardskynard2895 Жыл бұрын
that lightning trap looks sick af
@martoantoniuk Жыл бұрын
So I think all these could shotgun Tornado shot's secondary projs could be insane. Ice shot's explosion Caustic arrow poison Shattering steel Splittling steel Spectral shield throw secondary projs And spark... What about Kinetic blast? Do the proj create the explosion at the end of the return travel or only on hit?
@chocolatinerevolutionnaire3730 Жыл бұрын
If it works like vengeant cascade, it hit and create new AOE when coming back When vengeant + hydrosphere was usable, it was actually more powerfull than power siphon for solo target dps ( cause it had twice the AOE on enemy hit + aoe on hydrosphere hit, sadly they killed the build with the changes )
@Capybara_Player_786 Жыл бұрын
1:55 lancing steel is such an asmr hahahah
@Xeratas Жыл бұрын
what about vaal versions, eg vaal fireball?
@Richard-re7pb Жыл бұрын
how do the projectiles react if you're moving around? can you accumulate a cloud of projectiles if they're slow and you run around with them or do they hit a cap and disappear?
@kelex1298 Жыл бұрын
Capped. Projectiles are always by distance travelled then disappear once it meets the travel distance cap or an object, scaled by projectile speed
@RuiTheRock Жыл бұрын
Do they return to the spot where the skill was fired?
@kelex1298 Жыл бұрын
@@RuiTheRock No idea, but it can only be one of 2 ways. Either it returns to the spot where it was fired, or where the subject firing it (in this case its you, since totems and trap/mines dont move) is located when the projectile starts returning.
@trashcaster Жыл бұрын
@@kelex1298 Hopefully the latter, as it would make positioning feel like a large influence in the playstyle, kind of like when you kite Spectral Throw projectiles into a monster train
@kelex1298 Жыл бұрын
@@trashcaster Agreed, makes for a much smoother feel of playstyle as well.
@NeloGTz Жыл бұрын
I think fireball is really good , big aoe and it can shotgun too
@yeah5874 Жыл бұрын
Feels like Tornado shot might turn into some very interesting bossing skill with this
@tulio_borges Жыл бұрын
Wait, you mean to tell that all these 100M+ DPS tonado shot builds we've had over the past 3 leagues were not good enough bossing builds?
@yeah5874 Жыл бұрын
@@tulio_borges They were boring. THIS is interesting
@tulio_borges Жыл бұрын
@@yeah5874 Not gonna challenge that, NTR IS interesting!
@rammune7260 Жыл бұрын
Only initial projectiles can return, not secondary. Pretty useless for TS.
@yeah5874 Жыл бұрын
@@rammune7260 Awwwwwww you ruined my hype, you should have let me dream!!!!! not like i was ever getting the ring in ssf but now im sad
@rinssu Жыл бұрын
creeping frost look like it can shotgun twice ( with ur old creeping frost build )
@30763076 Жыл бұрын
Loved how jack scourge arrow looks lol
@maggotthemadman8142 Жыл бұрын
wild strike looks spicy!
@Aragoness Жыл бұрын
Spectral helix was a real let down. I thought that it would spin all the way back. It would be awesome!
@phuzlon Жыл бұрын
Jungroan provides the best ntr content
@scottii Жыл бұрын
Tornado shot and Splitting Steel. Dayum!
@kidzesty6303 Жыл бұрын
Steel skills go craaaaaazy
@Patraquashe Жыл бұрын
Many become almost too random, but at the same time, many seem to be really strong. Fun item for sure.
@Cerytes Жыл бұрын
Rolling Magma looked drunk
@kostikon Жыл бұрын
@@Cerytes xD
@5133937 Жыл бұрын
I want to see that crazy Rolling Magma Build of the Week from a few months ago use this gem.
@11131618570 Жыл бұрын
It seems to be working with projectiles that do not get "spent" on hit. Or maybe the implementation of the item needs more work. Like spectral helix return should be helical as well, maybe...
@theinfernity1799 Жыл бұрын
Spark seems weird to me. I noticed that not all projectiles return to you or am I mistaken? The one that shoots out at the bottom left of the screen for example.
@dontragequitbro Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video Jung
@Penguinranger123 Жыл бұрын
Lightning Trap, Soulrend and Scourge Arrow all look really interesting. Can't wait to see what builds people make.
@billy142857 Жыл бұрын
Divergent Lightning trap can return. There are already some guides for it for quite some time. It is pretty strong.
@Evil_Arthas Жыл бұрын
@@billy142857 It drain to much effort to make it 100%, second is that i tried it and it seems that its doesn't hit twice. And i suggest that Only 1 projectile will hit on return so 2x damage
@billy142857 Жыл бұрын
@@Evil_Arthas You don't need to have 100% chance since only one return projectile can hit. I think 50% return is good enough.
@KyokujiFGC Жыл бұрын
Wild strike looks dope
@deleno7290 Жыл бұрын
no kinetic blast wtf, that was the one skill I was interested in 😭
@dzaijn Жыл бұрын
The sound that Split Arrow makes is beautiful
@certes7423 Жыл бұрын
Literally the video I’ve been waiting for since league start
@sumeetsaini8739 Жыл бұрын
Never really noticed the audio the arrows make.
@noahsalvio9649 Жыл бұрын
This actually looks super strong for spark
@kliersheed Жыл бұрын
ditr it even work? so little projectiles looked like they just came back randomly
@noahsalvio9649 Жыл бұрын
@@kliersheed it keeps them in your general sphere for longer meaning you're getting more boss damage per spark. Nothing compared to what people have figured out about vaal fireball though
@Tarmin1996 Жыл бұрын
Now the question that I have is whether the returning projectiles always return to the position where you cast them or if they "chase you" cause some interactions could be well over op level
@fakeigniz13 Жыл бұрын
What happens with totems? I assume it works the same. Spark totems going to be wild with this
@tadiator Жыл бұрын
The Lightning Trap one reminds me so much of the movie Tenet. The effect is so mesmerizing
@saltedfish80772 ай бұрын
6:28 Blazing Salvo definitely returns. I even made a meme build with my Archmage and it did tons of damage in single target. Not sure why it behaves differently in this showcase video. Considering this comment is left 1 year after this video was initially posted, there's probably some changes made during this period of time.
@jungroan2 ай бұрын
the initial patch to the 2nd patch saw a lot of huge changes for return proj interactions. anything ground targeted did not return on release but did the patch after. anything infinite distance doubled its return distance in the second patch as well unfortunately.
@Nahnono17 күн бұрын
A lot of skills only return once you get high enough projectile speed.
@Rhaex Жыл бұрын
Unfortunate that it doesn't work with EK, but definitely has some sick interactions with other skills
@kanomadethis Жыл бұрын
hear me out, maybe with some projectile speed it works. Im hoping it does and will have to test it but currently its like 30div soooo..
@Evil_Arthas Жыл бұрын
@@kanomadethis People definitely get jebaited. In the end Nimis work lot lot worse than i thought, kinda disappointed 😞
@Kickfiz Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure it works if you hit a target just like the bow from endless delve
@trackts Жыл бұрын
@@kanomadethis I don't think so. It looks likes the projectile vanishes to place lingering blades. It can't return if it doesn't exist.
@kanomadethis Жыл бұрын
@@trackts im high on COPIUM just let me dream man :'(
@adamtennant4936 Жыл бұрын
The spectral one was funky.
@i_m_jason_gaming2478 Жыл бұрын
COC Icespear may be nutty with this
@Cekes119 Жыл бұрын
omg that spit arrow sound is so cool
@Ryan_but_the_name_was_taken Жыл бұрын
How does this interact with fury valve? Must be wonky as hell
@bakaky0 Жыл бұрын
The spectral helix was very disapointing
@johnmurray1207 Жыл бұрын
I wanna see what it does with kinetic blast
@zegrod7814 Жыл бұрын
Watched the entire video just to se KB, felt robbed at the end.
@jungroan Жыл бұрын
oh woops. didnt realize i missed. kb is the strongest gem with this ring, period
@Evil_Arthas Жыл бұрын
@@jungroan Maaaaaan
@despairge Жыл бұрын
fireball and lightning trap is so cool
@Raidon108 Жыл бұрын
pretty sad it doesn't work with lightning ball had high hopes for that.
@ascetictorchlight4677 Жыл бұрын
When your dad went out to get milk and didn't come back so you won a race to get something to compensate.
@Frank_Art Жыл бұрын
this item is like: build all AoE you can, now you have a discharge effect, also frostbolt or soulrend, and others that have forced pierce look good
@raptorjesus3396 Жыл бұрын
Lightning trap looking kind of sexy there. Don't have to stand on top of the boss to shotgun
@SnarkyLesbian Жыл бұрын
Frostbolt seems pretty huge with this!
@zackhartle8629 Жыл бұрын
Might have to give this ago with Lightning Strike, been loving the CoC Fireball build with it but Lightning Strike might actually be insane
@Noobwater Жыл бұрын
Holy Shit you can make Spectral throw come back to you? This ring might be too OP
@marianbunea2246 Жыл бұрын
KEKW
@reznovvazileski3193 Жыл бұрын
So vaal spark is actually kinda nutty then since it gives the skill a free wall on projectiles be it somewhere off the screen but still in open arena's like maven fight or sirus that's gonna be pretty good dps once the first ones start returning.
@star9z815 Жыл бұрын
please can someone clarify for me , a lot of people say ethereal knives works but it doesnt seem to in this video can anyone confirm if it returns or not
@Xeratas Жыл бұрын
Spark, fireball and lightning trap would be skills i'd love to try with it
@Sneedoss Жыл бұрын
Thought the same
@theinfernity1799 Жыл бұрын
For spark, it would save you the helmet enchant that it shoots randomly. But I think the helmet enchant is better. Because the ring can give you better options, like, call of the brotherhood.
@theinfernity1799 Жыл бұрын
Now I see why you mentioned spark. I saw that 1 or 2 projectiles didn't return to him so I thought it wouldn't work
@ThisFunRoom Жыл бұрын
Kinetic Blast will be the king of shotguns (not shown here though)
@zulfadzlanrosmadi2575 Жыл бұрын
What happened when use siren the staff + nimis +vengeant cascade?
@Maxtraxv3 Жыл бұрын
lighting trap looking good.
@paulb5571 Жыл бұрын
I wonder how this would function with items such as The Hidden Blade or Cameria's Avarice.
@kingst7997 Жыл бұрын
Lightning Trap was real neat
@shumatsuplaran7251 Жыл бұрын
Disappointed that Ball Lightning ignores it, but Creeping frost explosions shotgun so I might swap my trapper to that with it.
@datel666 Жыл бұрын
So its doesnt work with eye of winter :(
@Kardeell Жыл бұрын
Interesting how strong will be shotgun iceshot. Definately have potential.
@MrAntiKnowledge Жыл бұрын
Rolling magma seems to be able to get some nice overlap. Spark straight up double dps. Frostbolt could be interesting with the Ice Nova interaction Lighting Trap also very nice...if the returning proj can hit the same enemy again that is,
@integra0128 Жыл бұрын
magma does not overlap at all
@LordNerfherder Жыл бұрын
Pretty perfect, turning all skills into melee skills this league :D
@thaflowie Жыл бұрын
Some stuff does look quite interesting ngl
@GrumpyOrc Жыл бұрын
Wild Strike return looks legit as fuck. Rolling magma also looks pretty interesting, the fact that it changes direction every chain means it could theoretically hit the same target with every chain in the right situation by bouncing around the initial cast point.
@satibel Жыл бұрын
Rolling magma was magma orb, so you can now Morb all over the enemies.
@Minsoo-Cha Жыл бұрын
Time to play CWC Sire of shards Frostbolt Elementalist with Nimis
@hitlord Жыл бұрын
Exactly the idea I had in my head. Although Rolling Magma seemed just as good.
@seankluiter2998 Жыл бұрын
Creeping frost and soul rend looking crazy
@proxieee Жыл бұрын
the traps look OP for this
@Rekennnnn Жыл бұрын
HES ALIVE
@gubitiful Жыл бұрын
Spark looks great
@colorfulbleeding Жыл бұрын
what happens when you move does it follow you
@thenagazai Жыл бұрын
so... wild stirke freezing pulse returns, but not freezing pulse. Also, it works with traps, and they return where the trap was, but it doesnt work with frost blades cuz reasons?
@zeuzsp Жыл бұрын
Could you add chapters to it so we can just look at the skill we want?
@ticklord Жыл бұрын
Wonder if Saqual tornadoes get affected
@samuelzachary8396 Жыл бұрын
freezing pulse/wild strike look insane, also I wonder why icicle mine, eow and frostblades didnt work.
@lovire2299 Жыл бұрын
is this working with spark or am i coping
@konosek612 Жыл бұрын
Is spark duration longer or does it travel faster because of the return?
@FuzeEdits Жыл бұрын
Duration is doubled
@denvercarver2379 Жыл бұрын
Spark seems rather lackluster, but might make better with hyper cast speed like self chill builds use... wonder if there's room for it in the build.... hmmm
@jungroan Жыл бұрын
spark gets double damage from the ring. a clean, post-calc modifier
@Oyoisme Жыл бұрын
Mm thinking of coc ice spear with this ring, does it still return if we did not cast them manually?
@Detoneity Жыл бұрын
I got discouraged with frost blades, it was what was making me most curious
@StanleyDarsh22 Жыл бұрын
uhhhh does that mean tornado shot all of them overlap on 1 target?????????????
@himself0424 Жыл бұрын
It means you have to stand on bosses for some skills for damage to be dealt, I think tornado shot is one. This is based on skill interaction with Nimis passive only, not including any other passive skill that may cause other specific interactions.