Part 1 Race Debate w/ SNEAKO, ABA, JIDION, YOUNG DON And NICK ►kzbin.info/www/bejne/fGqQc4igqM1qrsk
@philippe34252 жыл бұрын
You need to tell Destiny to plug this channel on stream.
@gillyseuss88462 жыл бұрын
@@philippe3425 big true
@garysan2 жыл бұрын
Nick fuentes is kinda like the garou of real life, hes absolute evil
@Blueline3691 Жыл бұрын
4:30 3 of his surrounding squares' ears perked up 💀
@josevonbuergenwader22 жыл бұрын
I wish Destiny, or literally anybody, would explain to Sneako that getting angry or frustrated about things is no less an emotional response than getting sad or depressed or whatever other feelings he mocks. He is absolutely chained to his emotions and feelings like all the other “pussies” but he’s so hopelessly unaware of himself that he’s somehow convinced that throwing temper tantrum and screaming is actually just the pinnacle of logic and reason. Though, I don’t think he could be reached because he is so blatantly hypocritical that it’s unbelievable.
@riptaiyo2 жыл бұрын
I think it’s the reason why you get emotional
@josevonbuergenwader22 жыл бұрын
@@riptaiyo On that front Sneako can’t speak either. He gets emotional for the exact same kinds of reasons that everyone else gets emotional. He is the epitome of rules for thee but not for me. He loves bullying and thinks depression is a choice… until he doesn’t. He has absolutely zero coherent worldview or positions on any issue. He picks up and drops his beliefs based on however he feels about the subject of discussion at the time.
@savvy15302 жыл бұрын
Sneako will yell about "snowflakes" for hours, it's so odd that he's not able to comprehend the way he acts is so snowflakey in itself. Idk how his audience are so against the "left" or women getting "emotional" when arguing that they are just willingly ignorant when sneako turns around and does the same shit turned up to 10 not making any valid points. Like he was mocking h3 for talking slow and "sounding depressed" when this mf is over here screaming down his mic a buncha bullshit until he turns red in the face. If his PoV is that emotionally conveying your argument makes it less valid then how tf does he not see he's doing the same exact shit
@maartent96972 жыл бұрын
Sneako went psychotic when his gf cucked him by railing another probably, look up his videos after that poly relationship it went downhill fast
@GandolfdaBlaq2 жыл бұрын
Yea I peeped that as well. He’s very critical on the emotionality of women. But he’s very emotionally unstable. The fact that people speaking on mental health makes him so bothered is wild.
@Casper-Ghost2 жыл бұрын
Destiny always wakes up and chooses verbal violence and I am here for it. Sneako trying to gaslight Jidion was nuts. Poor kid thinks he's always the smartest in the room but he's really just the cringiest. At first his bullshit about Depression annoyed me and then I realized he's just a kid that took a High School Psychology class and now he's a Psychiatrist so I laughed my ass off. Aba should moderate more debates, he did a fantastic job keeping everyone in line; the only thing missing was The Floor.
@Ribald13372 жыл бұрын
Cringe response
@romnesia77292 жыл бұрын
@@Ribald1337 Cringier response
@T2G-DJT2 жыл бұрын
@@romnesia7729 Not cringier response
@vishg51482 жыл бұрын
@@Ribald1337 sugma
@yog-sherkoth17822 жыл бұрын
Maybe Aba can get up and walk around during the wilder parts. The floor is just behind him waiting to chime in.
@hippoloff14402 жыл бұрын
Sneako is the angriest person alive. He says nothing gets to him when in fact, everything gets to him.
@gnoomlord2 жыл бұрын
dunno mate he was the only one not screaming in this panel
@hippoloff14402 жыл бұрын
@@gnoomlord You don't need to scream to be triggered mate...
@gnoomlord2 жыл бұрын
@@hippoloff1440 right the people screaming their asses off are perfectly calm compared to people having a normal conversation
@hippoloff14402 жыл бұрын
@@gnoomlord The way I see it, it's the content of what you're saying that defines how triggered you are, the way you say obviously also plays a huge part in how you manifest how triggered you are. Sneako's entire content now is complaining about "Libs" being triggered, seems to me he is quite triggered by that. Go watch all the talks he has had with Destiny for example. The dude's unironically continuously triggered throughout them.
@gnoomlord2 жыл бұрын
@@hippoloff1440 so you think what you're saying defines how emtionally unhinged you are not actually being emotional? you know people can think a behavior is wrong without being the angriest person in the world because of it? if you have an example of him being ultra triggered I'd love to see it though :)
@tonjolley64222 жыл бұрын
Much respect for tastefully bringing up Etika. Was not expecting that.
@NewYorksMostWanted2 жыл бұрын
It was a bit of a weak comparison considering one was going through mild depression, and the other had psychosis.
@tomoesan45472 жыл бұрын
Not a fan of them bringing him up for debate bro shit but what can I do, just have to deal with it I guess.
@myotakuacountyo12162 жыл бұрын
@@NewYorksMostWanted here's the thing, depression is also a disorder. There is a difference in feeling depressed and being depressed, take it from someone who has experienced both
@mecuriasu2 жыл бұрын
@@myotakuacountyo1216 Personally do not agree with Jodion bringing up Etika in comparison to Sneako’s example. While depression is one thing, Etika’s living situation is not comparable at all. Etika moved several times through his streaming career, got screwed out of money by charge backs, and if I recall correctly, before “that” event took place, Etika posted his bank account which was completely empty. He tried to do his best to maintain the lifestyle he had. Sneako’s example is basically the mental issues without the financial struggle.
@dipperjr76962 жыл бұрын
I don't think you can "tastefully" bring up someone who, tragically, died by suicide just to win a argument against a deranged manchild on the internet. It feels unnecessary and completely immoral.
@grantalbury37102 жыл бұрын
Throughout the video, it looks like Young Don is just vibin watching Destiny play Factorio 🤣
@Kingrich_7772 жыл бұрын
He just unbothered asf😭
@izzylandyt2 жыл бұрын
He’s the black Destiny 😂
@loopymomy25322 жыл бұрын
A real masculine man that's calm that's what he is.
@juice177762 жыл бұрын
Its so funny that sneako says "I DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT WHAT THEY SAY" and then went on destiny's stream afterwards like "how do you deal with all the hate, it kinda bothers me :/" like its NORMAL to be upset by constant negativity. You don't have to pretend to be someone you're not. You're lying to yourself.
@NicholasW9432 жыл бұрын
I feel really bad for him. Sneako's just an emotional 23 year old that was small for years then blew up. Totally makes sense he'd have issues with hate, 99% of people would. At least for Destiny he slowly rose to fame, so he had a constant rise in hate to help him grow thicker skin, which probably makes negativity way easier to cope with. Hopefully once he starts to find strategies to emotionally handle the barrage of vitriol he'll tone his rhetoric down. Probably a lot of the outbursts he has is in part venting from what he's been dealing with.
@loopymomy25322 жыл бұрын
It's crazy he says that because he absolutely cares about what anybody thinks. Idk why he likes to fool himself 🤣
@JusRed482 жыл бұрын
Dude Sneako is out of his element, his eyes are tearing up 15 minutes into this and he's constantly contradicting himself This kid is lost
@Eric-mg6yr2 жыл бұрын
Aren’t we all?
@AJ-nh9qm2 жыл бұрын
@@Eric-mg6yr but it’s like Sneako is tryna convince himself he’s found the answer and is just going down this rabbit hole of hate and anger
@loopymomy25322 жыл бұрын
@@Eric-mg6yr irrelevant
@benjamindover28822 жыл бұрын
Rip to the JOYCONGOD
@Lonzology2 жыл бұрын
Sneako is a walking Contradiction. I honestly can't tell if hes just trolling or if hes being fr with his level of understanding basic situations and circumstances.
@llamapartyy2 жыл бұрын
I think he's off his meds or something
@morganao28452 жыл бұрын
@@llamapartyy sneako would be insulted that you thought he'd be on meds in the first place
@odst22472 жыл бұрын
@@morganao2845 lmao
@cultreader97512 жыл бұрын
Nathan is the most underrated South Park character.
@Lonzology2 жыл бұрын
@@llamapartyy Tbh he acts like he's off the meds idk if he's bipolar or sum. But hes giving that vibe.
@ashen_two2 жыл бұрын
Sneako saying "I'm not a loser" is the most massive cope/tell I've ever seen in my life.
@LittleBigChannel1232 жыл бұрын
I mean to be fair sneako is not a loser in some areas of life, his problem is probably that he's blind to the things he is a loser at.
@ashen_two2 жыл бұрын
@@LittleBigChannel123 I think he's a loser as far as *genuine* confidence goes. He's definitely got some pseudo-machismo confidence going on. It comes off as the "fake it till you make it" type of confidence (which isn't necessarily a bad thing). When you have to go out of your way to address your "haters" comments by literally saying "but I'm not a loser," it reeks of insecurity. Personally, I believe someone who was genuinely confident wouldn't even pay that type of comment any mind whatsoever. I actually don't hate sneako, as mind numbing as it is to listen to him speak. He'll come around eventually once he realizes things like not everyone has to think exactly like him in order to not be a sheep
@Dinnizzel972 жыл бұрын
Him personally probably pretty close to a loser but the real loser are his thoughts and ideals
@gnoomlord2 жыл бұрын
@@ashen_two someone hasn't been paying attention to all the youtubers / streamers having mental breakdowns over "haters" while getting way less hate than whoever this guy is.
@bencormier65942 жыл бұрын
@@ashen_two I agree but he would need a reason to make that change, right now all the attention he's getting is validating his thoughts and beliefs. The best thing anyone can do for him is stop giving him what he wants (attention) and hope he realizes what's wrong.
@conehead41332 жыл бұрын
Sneako is undoubtedly stuck in an echo chamber and proving destiny’s sheep example more and more. The fact that he’s defending nick and doing what he’s currently doing someone who is like the most stereotypical racist you can find and biggest gripper ever just because he aligns with a similar narrative as him is just so telling of that.
@gracelembejek20832 жыл бұрын
I think he’s more devious, I honestly think he’s just chasing the bag in whatever way he can. He has the same patos as those super corrupt millionaires that would do anything to get to the top. Everything else is smoke show, he’s just so good at it
@gracelembejek20832 жыл бұрын
Like modern day Ghandi or mother Theresa
@athenaproductions35692 жыл бұрын
No projecting please
@christpierre2 жыл бұрын
@@gracelembejek2083 No, he's just genuine and knows what's funny/entertaining. He's a entertainer not a politician.
@attackmaster5192 жыл бұрын
@@gracelembejek2083 If he just wanted to make money, he would become a left winger. Joining the side being oppressed and censor isn't good for making money. Look at Hunter Avalone for an easy example
@micahbost44382 жыл бұрын
bro etika was one of my favorites
@Hazamatoxin2 жыл бұрын
FR,FR Etika was literally such a gem, still miss that dude.
@Shin_Akumi2 жыл бұрын
What content did he do? I only heard about him from h3h3 content nuke on keemstar
@DB1Dragoon2 жыл бұрын
@@Shin_Akumi All kinds of content from skits to reactions to irl.
@jeremias-serus2 жыл бұрын
I refuse to believe all these mf were fans of his. Bro, he had like 5 k concurrent viewers at his peak lmao. Most of his “fans” were peeps who watched a bunch, but not all, of his uploaded clips. But mf that ain’t a fan. I did that too. His clips were funny. But don’t say you were a fan of that is the case lmaoo
@damarihanson38762 жыл бұрын
@@Shin_Akumi Etika was a legend based on Nintendo content. He was known to have lost a deal that if a certain character returned to smash bros, he would eat a nutsack sandwich with his own balls (he didn’t do it lmao). He also had a fake, early switch model and used that to brand the phrase “Nintendo Ninjas”. He also just had the best reactions in the whole KZbin business. Truly a legend
@francisxavier83742 жыл бұрын
wow, sneako does not know what bullying is
@MegaDzEL2 жыл бұрын
Facts
@juliannewman87202 жыл бұрын
This combo is hilarious and the way people should talk instead of shutting the other view point down. A lot of people with different opinions and can still have a good ass time and get along.
@matthewsonne46752 жыл бұрын
So Sneako calls out people on "misinformation" or just wrong-headed behaviour, says himself to be spreading the truth - which in every form is educational -, and then backtracks from his role as an educator (by way of comedy) as merely just "entertaining?" Does that make sense? Also, bullying doesn't make you a better person. HANDLING bullying gracefully makes you a better person. Bullying from the dominant perspective often makes you an insecure, judgemental asshole.
@jacobwages70212 жыл бұрын
Dude lost is shit earily in this convo saying hes tired of people saying i miss the old sneako, old sneako this old sneako that. Says hes always been like this. Then goes on to say he wants the old ethan (h3h3).
@thomasjohn9832 жыл бұрын
This idea brings be back to the Ricegum content cop. Way back then I remember Ian hammered the point that these douce-tubers like to play both sides where on one hand they are serious and educational but when called out its 'all jokes.' It ends up being a really good defense mechanism against any criticism because the audience, just agrees and there is nothing that you can legitimately criticize because 'it was just me joking.' Honestly there isn't much of an answer to it just realize when it's happening.
@matthewsonne46752 жыл бұрын
@@jacobwages7021 I didn't even catch that shit, good ear
@matthewsonne46752 жыл бұрын
@@thomasjohn983 very much middle school bully tactics
@Dinnizzel972 жыл бұрын
He's a child still stuck in cod lobbies 🤣
@DatHombre2 жыл бұрын
4:29 The face that Nick makes after Jidion says that😂
@Onestroke2 жыл бұрын
🤣
@Sosarchives2 жыл бұрын
he has no clue lmao
@brandonwhite5622 жыл бұрын
Nick is just like "I remember Im banned from banks right?"
@regarded97022 жыл бұрын
that made me chuckle
@abdurrahmanqureshi3030 Жыл бұрын
There goes Jidion being deceitful and lying again
@ToCODandBEYOND2 жыл бұрын
let me just hop off my antidepressants real quick and not be depressed. god bless you sneako u saved my life
@michaelquaid46792 жыл бұрын
God bless you brother. You can do it!
@loopymomy25322 жыл бұрын
Yeah next time you're choking about to die, and can't breathe just breathe bro
@theulysses7236 Жыл бұрын
Did you do it?
@jcpbd17762 жыл бұрын
Destiny ans Young Don was a collab I never thought would happen
@francisxavier83742 жыл бұрын
"im just a comedian" is just "it's just a prank bro"
@Observette2 жыл бұрын
Sneako’s absolute incoherence and outright stupidity has actually made me like Jidion.
@zcargill32 жыл бұрын
If you didn’t like Jidion before that speaks a lot to someone who binged his content. Like have your own opinion but he’s been dunking Sneako for the past week plus.
@jordiw9132 жыл бұрын
Funny how he’s smarter than you it’s sad
@Rallylabs2 жыл бұрын
He’s not stupid, he’s just young, foolish and overzealous.
@vishg51482 жыл бұрын
@@jordiw913 I’m always amazed at how brain deficient KZbin comments are, thanks for providing the entertainment
@Falroth2 жыл бұрын
@@jordiw913 how did you work out OP's intellect?
@wellbutrinwarlock2 жыл бұрын
Sneako wants people to get over a chemical imbalance in the brain but can’t get over being uncomfortable wearing a seatbelt
@bau98942 жыл бұрын
tbf id rather be uncomfortable wearing seatbelts than being in a dark place mentally
@frankdevo57152 жыл бұрын
The “chemical imbalance” theory has literally never been proven.
@Andrew-wl1gf2 жыл бұрын
I mean chemical imbalance as a reason for depression has recently been debunked
@TheInfectous2 жыл бұрын
How many depressed people get brain scans for their chemical imbalance (that don't matter because brain chemistry is individual to the person) 1%?, that seems high, probably around .01%. Most people are not depressed because of anything in regards to their brain chemistry, elsewise anti-depressants would be much better than placebo rather than barely better. The circumstances in which you get put in depression aren't a choice, choosing to stay in it past those circumstances passing is. I'm all for helping depressed people, give them therapy, give them retreats and give them trainers to help them fix their lifestyle and mind; it is fucking hard to overcome those challenges but in the end if you want to not be depressed you have to do the work and you have to fix your life and mind.
@holo456922 жыл бұрын
@@Andrew-wl1gf it wasn't debunked, they just stated it was much more complex than "just a chemical imbalance". Chemicals imbalances are very much still a well understood part of what can cause depression. If it was debunked as you said then antidepressants would literally serve no purpose at all (they do btw) since all that most of them do is try to correct these chemical imbalances. I appreciate you trying to spread even more misinformation though, you're helping the world.
@playerone23572 жыл бұрын
Shoutout to aba and jidion. Both are stand up guys.
@Ginja_DaNinja2 жыл бұрын
If sneako likes bullying so much why was he so upset people were happy he got "fake" beat up? It's just a form of bullying?
@JusRed482 жыл бұрын
This is the biggest thing about why nobody but his cult can take him seriously, he's just logically inconsistent lmao
@riptaiyo2 жыл бұрын
Saying someone should die or get seriously hurt is different than calling the band kid gay lol
@jsmooth77652 жыл бұрын
thats not what upset him go look at tweets and shit he pinned they said they wish he was dead and he deserved it that's not bullying thats hatred and disgusting. sneako is wrong about bullying being good. wishing death on anyone besides pedophiles is wrong
@loopymomy25322 жыл бұрын
@@JusRed48 facts literally nobody can take him seriously but his audience. He actually shows cognitive dissonance.
@loopymomy25322 жыл бұрын
@@jsmooth7765 THATS BULLYING OMG. 🥱
@padenbang73752 жыл бұрын
Yeah, he's a comedian so he should just get over it. Comedians never struggle with depression or anxiety. Never heard of a comedian taking their own life. Based
@austinl51582 жыл бұрын
The final joke
@AnubisX32 жыл бұрын
@@austinl5158 💀
@techpriest62522 жыл бұрын
Nick and sneako is a surprisingly funny combo
@lukejax14072 жыл бұрын
When nick said "toxic" I began to worry for their future as friends hahah
@carlmencia29192 жыл бұрын
NICK BOT LMAO
@collaide2 жыл бұрын
WTF is wrong with you people, talking about how much you like NICK FUENTES, A LITERAL NAZI. NO HYPERBOLE. HE'S A NAZI?
@shadowsta92 жыл бұрын
Destiny and Aba needs to used their connections to get Dr.K on stream to talk to Sneako about mental health. Thats Sneako's main problem if you ask me. His lack of emotional intelligence and mental health knowledge makes him lack empathy towards others.
@limear2 жыл бұрын
Unironically one of the best panels
@lucas41772 жыл бұрын
Definition of bullying: -seek to harm, intimidate, or coerce (someone perceived as vulnerable). The way that people treated Sneako when he faked his beating and what he did with D'Angello and keep doing daily to other people on the internet, both fit under the definition of bullying.
@non-blogger Жыл бұрын
"bUt iT's JuSt bAnTeR!"
@B_B-4202 жыл бұрын
Absolutely hilarious for Sneako to say, "they think I'm a character on a show", in one breath... Then say, "I understand that it's just entertainment for a lot of people" in the next... "I don't want to give them compassion and empathy, because fuck it, at the end of the day it's just entertainment". So then why does Sneako care about "cancel culture"? TV shows get canceled all the time, even some very good ones like Serenity. If Sneako got his "show canceled" by the "KZbin Network" (aka permabanned), why would anyone show him compassion or empathy? It's just entertainment!
@niclastname2 жыл бұрын
His views really are a jumbled box of puzzle pieces made from different puzzles that don't connect. I can't tell if he doesn't _realize_ how self-contradictory his worldview is, or if he just doesn't _care_ and thinks that internal-consistency is some "liberal feminist illuminati LGBTQ conspiracy to control you and lock you into a box of coherence, where they ban you from all the platforms where you can make tons of money from advertisers... so that they can stay ad-safe and not lose said income to the site that supports me... THE LIBS DID THIS!!!". But also he's just a comedian that's just joking. So don't take him seriously.... but he's right and telling the truth through comedy... so people shouldn't criticize that because he's just being funny... so don't hold him to the dumb shit he says... even though it's not just dumb shit and it's the truth he's acquired through the red pill... which is just a matrix reference so it's not real... so all you people mad at him are just pissed that he's spittin facts of reality... that he's just joking about though... but when people do it to him it's not jokes because he doesn't think it's funny...
@ShivaTD4202 жыл бұрын
it's clear from his video history he tried a bunch of things until latching on to trending formats that can be pumped out with low effort. Along with a style of shock controversy clickbait comedy in the red pill genre. The character is a overconfident macho playa , with anger issues and narcissistic personality disorder. Tuff guy routines mixed with some recycled self help for men content. It's more mgtow ideology than it is incel. Now he feeds off of the attention everyone else gives. Say something contestable, edgy that pushes the limits. But doesn't alienate you from the ideology. Then both the fans and haters praise and complain , raising engagement. I can't see him stopping the character until the Andrew Tate pimp act drops out of popularity. Since most of these characters are in his shadow. Tates act is more elaborate , but eventually people will figure out there's no cars collection garage tour , watches are only seen in the store and never in his house, fake gun displays, and the women are escorts. Never seen a casino tour to show he owns it , not posing with a car outside of one.
@Afff9242 жыл бұрын
@@ShivaTD420 i agree with you but tate DOES have millions he earns 5mil a month with just hustler university. its 50 dollar a month and has over 100k members.
@Dinnizzel972 жыл бұрын
He suffers from some serious cognitive dissonance and it's obvious
@ocean_punk12062 жыл бұрын
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@monumentalhitz48622 жыл бұрын
"No one should be depressed" - Sneako. Okay, tell that to a schizo who is afraid to go outside because he might have a mental breakdown from the sight of other people. That's life for some people in a nutshell.
@Michael-xy6kf2 жыл бұрын
Sneako believes there are actual mental people, but most people are completely fine who champion depression or anything else to use it as a way to dodge accountability.
@monumentalhitz48622 жыл бұрын
@@Michael-xy6kf Okay, I could agree with that statement. But, how would Sneako know (most) people are fine? He refers more to his personal experiences than actually doing research. Like, let's take TikTok, KZbin and Twitter aside (because social media is just for appearances most of the time), take these content creators and put them to the side for a moment. Actual people are suffering and it's only increasing as the economy continues to pitfall. How can (most) people be "fine"? There are very valid reasons for people to be depressed, especially nowadays. It was not a worry 50 years ago, but it is now.
@Eric-mg6yr2 жыл бұрын
I do agree that no one should be depressed but in the world live in, it’s impossible to not be depressed. Anything can happen in any giving situation where it starts to impact us badly. Sneako is right but always does this stupid shit where he just starts to go too damn far with this his freaking comments lol. Idk why but he’s for sure an idiot.
@Eric-mg6yr2 жыл бұрын
@@monumentalhitz4862 I agree. “Most” people aren’t fine especially in this climate. Sneako, again, just doesn’t understand that we are human.
@michaelquaid46792 жыл бұрын
LOL! You people up down this comment section are so triggered. Who cares if he believes in medical depression or not? It doesn't affect your life at all. And besides, for the most part he is factually correct! It has become a fad to be a victim and placate people's delusions. We need more young men like sneako fight the good fight
@noahwinslow32522 жыл бұрын
Destiny hit the nail on the head, sneako is delusional. Billboards encourage people to be fat? Fml
@gnoomlord2 жыл бұрын
if there were billboards about how brave and cool it is to do cocaine I think you'd change your mind real quick lmao
@WanderTheNomad2 жыл бұрын
I think they could encourage fat people to stay fat, but I don't think there's any billboards out there encouraging average sized people to be fat.
@deeznauts65432 жыл бұрын
@@WanderTheNomad the whole body positivity movement was never about fattening people up. Its just a community of people whove been bullied their whole life for being fat, and just come to accept it and stop being ashamed about their weight. Fatfobic people are to blame for women's weight insecurities. The idea that bullying is good for their self esteem and will make them healthier is beyond delusional.
@WanderTheNomad2 жыл бұрын
@@deeznauts6543 I agree, but Destiny also has a point that they go too far by rejecting any suggestions to lose weight. If the body positivity movement is improving your mental health from the bullying from fatphobic people, then that's good. But if it's discouraging people from wanting to lose weight at all, then it's gone too far. We should strive for both a healthy mind and a healthy body.
@deeznauts65432 жыл бұрын
@@WanderTheNomad Ive seen those toxic people getting mad at others losing weight and that's dead wrong. Theres definately toxicity within the movement. As for weight suggestions, whats the point? They know they're fat. They arent motivated to lose wight by people telling them they're fat. They're motivated when they themselves feel tired of being fat. I disagree with destiny saying all fat women are miserable with their weight. They're miserable from the constant bullying on social media. I follow a lot of plus size women, many who aren't even unhealthy or obese, just a mom bod. And the bullying and hate they get is unbelievable. Theres also a lot of them that pay no mind to it and only engage with the positivity. Im tired people hiding behind the "concerned for health" bs and using it to justify making people feel like shit about their weight. 99% if the time its not concern, just downright not liking fat people.
@JmasterPullmizter2 жыл бұрын
Depression is a internal mental condition. Some ppl think it’s a conscious choice based on living or situation. Depression can happen at anytime for no reason, it’s a state of constant low energy that makes you want to die.
@JohnDoe-sw1rs2 жыл бұрын
This panel’s so entertaining and they looked like they had fun for the most part
@ConsciousRobot2 жыл бұрын
I don't find sneako's ignorance and obnoxious personality entertaining at all
@mrcombine79832 жыл бұрын
He really just said bullying and hating on someone are not equatable.
@lethabo7132 жыл бұрын
This panel is fire 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 Destiny we need more of this.
@FunClockwork2 жыл бұрын
Quickest slam dunk ever with that etika comment, love that man for the rest of forever I miss him so much Rest In Peace king ❤️❤️🔥
@tarfielarchelone26742 жыл бұрын
"I'm not a loser" I mean if people laugh at it and believe it there must be a nugget of truth in it.
@mkultravictim39172 жыл бұрын
Or they’re just haters?
@Onche5182 жыл бұрын
Love him or hate him but Sneako's definitely not a loser
@deeznauts65432 жыл бұрын
@@Onche518 if money and influence is all thats important to you. You can be rich and famous and still be a loser
@tarfielarchelone26742 жыл бұрын
@@mkultravictim3917 nah they're comedians
@loopymomy25322 жыл бұрын
@@mkultravictim3917 that would mean everyone in the world are haters. Just because they are haters doesn't mean there isn't truth to it. I can hate Biden for example but be completely true on the fact that Biden during his campaign said black people aren't black if they don't vote for him lol
@ryanjames39142 жыл бұрын
this sounds more like an intervention
@WanderTheNomad2 жыл бұрын
Too bad Nick has Sneako's soul now
@toppaisme2 жыл бұрын
Oh god sneako should shut up. People hurling insults at you day in and day out is eventually gonna hurt. Eventually people will find that one spot. That one spot you’re insecure about. That one spot you’re sensitive about. Yeah people calling you random names when you have a huge following doesn’t matter but at some point it will get to you.
@Chaunders2 жыл бұрын
I’ll be glad when Sneako adds ‘hegemony’ and ‘status quo’ to his vocabulary, so he can stop accusing everyone of being libs and bots
@eezom19932 жыл бұрын
Wait sneako literally said it’s all jokes then in the same podcast said he’s just entertaining lmao then asked when he said it. That’s UNHINGED
@ralumott2 жыл бұрын
What Sneako says isn't funny or outrageous, it is just sad.
@imbigwes2 жыл бұрын
I agree that the Fat Acceptance movement can be pretty cringe, but it's often not apparent to the red pills that they instinctively go to the absolute opposite and act like a level of hyper aggressive fitness shit is the answer and they become just unfathomably annoying. In fact now that I type that, it's sort of crazy how a lot of people that are like that are more interested in being on the polar opposite of the conversation than actually thinking about it.
@Observette2 жыл бұрын
Sneako is using the Def Noodles “I’m just a comedian, check my bio” excuse. This is gold! 😂
@lukejax14072 жыл бұрын
Blew me away when aba brought up def as an example. Didn't think he would know who he was but i suppose he knows what is happening online. I always thought it would be good if anyone from this sphere debated def on his points. Mrgirl would be hilarious.
@Swedgen2 жыл бұрын
Sneako is the 1st person destiny's ever talked to that I just outright hate. Intellectual, stimulating conversation evaporates & it all becomes like adults talking to an angry toddler or rebellious teenager with a learning disability, these are the dumbest talks ever
@a.c.forever51572 жыл бұрын
Damn man, I’m sorry you feel that way. Idk tho, he just seems stubborn to go back on a point even when he sees that he’s probably wrong. This was a good showcase of that and I think it’s a characterizational flaw that can be improved on. He’s not too far gone, just puts a lot of passion and other emotions in the wrong places sometimes at least imo.
@BZ-rr1wt2 жыл бұрын
I understand where you're coming form and to a certain level I agree witj you. However I still think this are important conversations, not for you maybe but for the morons that got radicalized like Sneko.
@FullMetalAtheist2 жыл бұрын
He's very immature and is often stuck in an echo chamber, I think. The way he thinks reminds me of an angry rebellious cringe 14-16 year old
@Swedgen2 жыл бұрын
@A.C. Forever & just for saying that he would say you're psychoanalyzing him & scream at you calling you a whole bunch of names that I can't say or my comment will get deleted again, lol, he just dumbs everything down to grade school playground rhetoric like that
@acason42 жыл бұрын
👌🏻
@onZampie2 жыл бұрын
I cant believe i kinda agree with Nick on mental health lol. At least he acknowledges that some people do in fact have real disorders. And there definitely are a lot of people who call shit that is just regular rational human emotions disorders because they want more validation in their suffering and they think its "trendy" or whatever. What is so disgusting about people who do that, is they do it under the guise of caring about mental health, but then they completely misrepresent real disorders because they want people to feel sorry for them. Its all a big virtue-signaling cirle-jerk that makes people pretending to have disorders feel good about themselves but fucks over people who are actually mentally ill.
@pranavkottur90312 жыл бұрын
Big facts g
@onZampie2 жыл бұрын
@@kimilsungthefirst6840 I disagree completely. Exercise and diet can help any person feel better in general, but will have little to no effect on most disorders. I have clinical depression and i workout regularly and eat pretty healthy. If i feel shitty for some other normal reason, exercising can help a lot but it doesn't impact the depression in any way.
@bencormier65942 жыл бұрын
@@onZampie idk about that boss, I too was diagnosed with severe depression at the age of 12, and I can say with confidence that if it wasn't for exercise and eating well I wouldn't be here today. Studies even show that exercise is more effective than anti depressants because pills stop working eventually/you need to increase the dose. The serotonin you get from exercise however never fades and the confidence you build with steady progress is irreplaceable.
@bencormier65942 жыл бұрын
@@onZampie btw I'm doing much better now so there's no need to worry
@onZampie2 жыл бұрын
@@bencormier6594 I guess our experiences are different then. All i know is that i am physically in the best shape i ever have been but mentally the worst. I am more or less completely numb and exercise doesnt impact it in any way.
@cdmanjak2 жыл бұрын
Sneako is so desperate to been seen as a tough guy his behavior tells me he has some deep seated issues he said he wants to be a comedian but they are the most depressed people ever
@riptaiyo2 жыл бұрын
That’s subjective
@cdmanjak2 жыл бұрын
@@riptaiyo yes.... Considering it's my opinion definitely is
@riptaiyo2 жыл бұрын
@@cdmanjak you say it like it’s fact
@cdmanjak2 жыл бұрын
@@riptaiyo I never stated it was a fact just commented if you think KZbin comments should be taken as fact for the love of Phil stop reading them
@riptaiyo2 жыл бұрын
@@cdmanjak on destiny’s page with all these pseudo intellectuals
@intertexualdialectic39522 жыл бұрын
this panel needs to become a full podcast.
@lupusrexstudio73272 жыл бұрын
Minus Don
@Tryhardblackguy2 жыл бұрын
"All of you blacks are all right" bruh lmfao
@houseboat11012 жыл бұрын
It's so funny how DeAngelo made one negative comment on a sneako video and sneako hasn't let it go since
@enzoarweq45252 жыл бұрын
Lmaoooo ikr mf was pressssed
@scrubstc69432 жыл бұрын
Its crazy how when I was a teenager I was like sneako. Trying to be the villain because people saw me that way and just riding myself into the ground. Im 21 now and I realized getting in the dirt to validate peoples idea of me being a villain was wrong.
@stagthechainsawbeserker39262 жыл бұрын
Its okay we all go through it, the mistake was listening to others defining you. Only you can prove to yourself not others of what you are, sadly people project, lie, misconstrue and bend perceptions around them. Don't validate others validate yourself. Villains can be good but it is more of a balance.
@lasseel37242 жыл бұрын
Its hard to unlearn that, and I can relate to it too people think I'm a b*tch so I acted like one even thought deep inside it made me feel so pathetic. Idk when sneako will get out of this scenario but hopefully he will.. His platform rn is just chaos.
@stagthechainsawbeserker39262 жыл бұрын
@@lasseel3724 FACTS
@michaelquaid46792 жыл бұрын
If you think sneako is a villain you don't understand anything and I doubt you've even watched much of his content. Overall the kid is fighting against extreme, sick poisonous feminism. We need his voice in Western culture. It doesn't mean he'll be correct on everything, no one is. But so many of you in this comment section make it so clear that you have been brainwashed by feminism. So many soy boys and cry babies
@tpav55632 жыл бұрын
Can Sneako stop yelling all the damn time.
@cdmanjak2 жыл бұрын
He's a child
@Peakyy12 жыл бұрын
Ive been watching him for a while, he has been doing controversial shit for clout these past years. For example when he said cuties was a great movie.
@delam6172 жыл бұрын
@@cdmanjak He's 24. He's not a child.
@drangc0bex1192 жыл бұрын
I always like the vids on this channel august glad it’s back
@LoveFlappy2 жыл бұрын
Y’all are not close enough to where you can just drop their first name like that 💀
@drangc0bex1192 жыл бұрын
@@LoveFlappy I have a parasocial relationship shit with him. Hate this dude destiny but the way August cites the argument god damn
@hanskraut20182 жыл бұрын
Relly good convo, can we have more of this? 🤩
@hanskraut20182 жыл бұрын
The mix of people/worldviews is kinda also interessting
@Dio-32 жыл бұрын
So is no one finna talk about how quiet Don is 😭
@plaguepug209110 ай бұрын
I don’t watch Nick so I need help finding the clip of him arguing against his audience that black women can be sexy. He said “I’m talkin midnight 😭”. I NEED TO SEE THIS
@bronzee5482 жыл бұрын
Sneako is more like a 13 yr old than 23. 23 yr olds are adults. He is literally a child. I hope he grows up.
@HRDRZ2 жыл бұрын
Arrested Development
@NicholasW9432 жыл бұрын
He'll grow out of it. Most guys go through the "bullying is good, actually" phase in their life and they turn out to be perfectly decent dudes. Most people hit that in middle or high school, but sometimes people go through it later. Little scary when someone gets into an extreme phase they should've gone through in their teens in their 20s, but it's probably not gonna last. If someone hits a high school phase in their 30s, they're a goner, though. 30+ yo guys who discover libertarianism are brain-wormed for life. I don't think it's a mental issue or anything, just some bad luck on his end.
@enlightenednormie2422 жыл бұрын
So, in theory if a guy bullies Sneako physically or mentally, he shouldn't be mad or sad about it rather he should thank his bully for helping him build character!? 🤣🤣🤣
@Eric-mg6yr2 жыл бұрын
I look at it kinda like this. A kid who used to get bullied a lot at school for being fat starts using that as motivation to lose weight and get into better shape. Some people take it differently. Others use it for motivation/self improvement while others are effected emotionally/physically. So it really depends how they’re getting bullied. Not saying all bullying is good but there’s some that most people would consider as bullying that’s changing a person’s life. Obviously, there’s a better way to help people change their lives that doesn’t involve bullying but the world is very wicked.
@Replies.Delete.SometimesIDKy2 жыл бұрын
So the point went over your head? Great. Lemme educate you. Theres two types of buIIying. Bullying to better someones life and bullying to take it. Sneakos bullies only bully him to take his while sneako bullies h3 to better h3's
@sunipye70512 жыл бұрын
@@Replies.Delete.SometimesIDKy Thats still SO stupid! Bullying is a an act of cruel harrassment. If I want someone to get better I will give them advice, not be mean-spirited. Bullying is wrong so maybe you need to stop doing all this mental gymnastics to try and normalise it.
@bigfebreeze_xyt30822 жыл бұрын
@@Eric-mg6yr people have endogenous depression too you know that right?? Also that’s not having depression that’s being sad and upset because you don’t like your body and someone’s being mean to you it’s normal to feel that way… depression is abnormal because you’re “stuck” sad even if u have all the money and sex in the world and you look ripped you still don’t get joy out of it and you still feel suicidal, it’s a view on life that won’t go away just how your view on life won’t go away no matter how much I explain this concept to you you won’t actually comprehend the thoughts and feelings unless you’ve experienced it so instead y’all make assumptions… maybe it’s kuz he can’t get a girl, maybe he’s just broke and is hopeless he’ll become stable, maybe this maybe that until someone is “perfect” and still depressed then we say dang that’s weird ig their depressed, but not everyone who’s depressed is perfect.. also plenty of ppl get super sad and look for attention and pity which is annoying and these same people claim to have depression because then everyone knows how suicidal and miserable they must be, it’s really made it harder for people with actual depression to speak up without everybody thinking they’re one of those people
@saida2056 Жыл бұрын
@@Eric-mg6yr or the kid who got bullied for being fat becomes depressed and fucking kills himself
@thoughtpolice942 жыл бұрын
This was a legit good panel
@jxjohnson64372 жыл бұрын
This is what conversations should look like and end on good terms
@SPVRINNA Жыл бұрын
I believe Sneako is right to attribute the perpetuation of a lot of mental health issues to social media, but man, it is genuinely heartbreaking to hear his solutions to mental crises, like "Get over it, pussy" or the disparaging of therapeutic relationships. A total lack of humility on his part, and he can't even see it. Granted this was months ago, but somehow I doubt his position has palliated.
@brandon-toddhutchinson37982 жыл бұрын
I was thinking about how startling it is when you discover that someone has a completely different understanding of certain words... but now, being the cautious person that I am, I feel it may be worth figuring out if most people don't even have the same understanding of the most basic words in our language.
@stagthechainsawbeserker39262 жыл бұрын
This is why I champion misanthropy can't be disappointed if you already are or atleast its consistent.
@Ed-ss1uh2 жыл бұрын
This is amazing I enjoy every person on the panel lmaoo
@FMGA142 жыл бұрын
Nick is so crazy and he’s definitely a racist but I can’t help but to laugh at his comments. The guy is funny af
@thelegacyofgaming29282 жыл бұрын
His ending comment killed me 😂😂😂
@bcba_lace49162 жыл бұрын
On the depression discussion, I think he was confused about what he was feeling. If you’re easily able to get out of that emotion, then you’re just sad. But there’s a literal chemical imbalance which people can’t secrete enough serotonin aka that’s what antidepressants are for lol
@mikereald2 жыл бұрын
Just wondering, the doctors or psychs who diagnose someone with depression, how do they know there is this “chemical imbalance”? I have never seen someone have a scan of their brain before being diagnosed with depression.
@hhhggbg30002 жыл бұрын
@realbm They evaluate you and make a determination based on what you said and how you acted. When I was diagnosed with an anxiety disorder, the dude prescribed an ssri, said will see in like six months how thing we’re going. If it wasn’t helping they’d try another. Never went back. Never took them. It really just seems like a shot in the dark most times.
@a-grin69892 жыл бұрын
@David Jones are you talking about guardian article?
@austinl51582 жыл бұрын
@@hhhggbg3000 when I was like 15, the doctor had me fill out a survey and that's it. Thankfully he didn't prescribe anti depressents and wanted to wait until im older. Ended up getting some at 18. I got fat and literally couldn't get hard... It was messed up. I guess if they help people they help people, but I couldn't deal with the side effects.
@domerame59132 жыл бұрын
Afaik the serotonin theory of chemical imbalance is both contested and doesn't exactly mean you are stuck being depressed. There are definitely people that are not able to get out of a depression, but I would argue most people claiming "depression" today could escape it with a change of behaviors and environment (though achieving that can be difficult). Just because you can correlate hormone imbalances and brain chemical imbalances to depression doesn't mean you are biologically doomed to be depressed or even that the depression is caused by that.
@-Blaxe-2 жыл бұрын
The fact Sneako can’t realize that it’s literally people like him that caused the body positivity movement to start in the first place, is just killing me
@neighbourhoodmusician2 жыл бұрын
Sneako with the absolutely worst fucking take on depression ever.
@PrestonGarveyofthesettlements2 жыл бұрын
People who are in Red pill rage normally have that view. Fresh and Fit, another red pill rage group, shares this sentiment as well.
@neighbourhoodmusician2 жыл бұрын
@@PrestonGarveyofthesettlements I believe it's called 'toxic positivity', which seems to come from a 70s train of thought called 'the three principles'.
@Iwillreply Жыл бұрын
I think the fact that people who disagree this much can "get along" shows how much of a social species we are, because these people are very clearly against each others views and if their opinions got put into action, people would be dying and horrible things would be happening (you know who I'm talking about).
@titanscar21832 жыл бұрын
Depression is a choice, and until Destiny accepts the fact that he has a girls name, he will always choose depression
@WanderTheNomad2 жыл бұрын
So that explains why he plays League
@yungdash48522 жыл бұрын
Sneako said he just had a 6 figure month. Fix your fucking mic
@Awesomeficationify2 жыл бұрын
The only way I'll believe Sneako has a IQ above room temp is if he reveals all of this is a complete character.
@crazybadkid082 жыл бұрын
Sneakos not low iq. He’s just has above average intelligence that interacted with a lot of average intellect ppl. That caused him to believe his way of thinking and doing things is the correct way. So when he’s challenged by somebody competent like destiny. He reverts to mocking and ranting and trolling. Cause he knows he’s beat
@acason42 жыл бұрын
👌🏻
@loopymomy25322 жыл бұрын
@@crazybadkid08 no lol I agree that sneako doesn't have low IQ but I don't agree with the rest part. Actually, I think sneako refuses to expand on his knowledge because he believes he's smarter than the average. That's why he rather debate dumb people. Because when he is actually debating smart people, he never has real points, and he is proved to be a fraud. But the good news is that sneako hangs with smart people. Which means eventually he will expand his knowledge and stop being a big baby about everything.
@NicholasW9432 жыл бұрын
Sneako's 23, so I'm not terribly surprised he doesn't think depression is real. I remember all through high school no one had crippling depression or any brutal mental illness. The worst was some people had ADHD, which you could never tell by looking at the kid. It wasn't until my early to mid-20s I started to realize that tons of people lie about what they were like in high school or shit goes south for them in college. People fuck up their lives with drugs and are left with mental issues and trying to piece back together their life after rehab. People who're addicted to gambling or gaming and can't progress and they know it. People who don't love themselves, so if they're not with a girl after a month or two of being single they're talking about offing themselves. People hating their job since it isn't the one they visioned getting while graduating college and wanting to commit suicide. Life starts getting a lot realer when you hit your 20s and you'll start figuring out that all your friends are fucked up in some way to a varying degree and the ones that aren't are lying. Sneako's going to figure that out eventually. No shot anyone's going to coast through their 20s without figuring out how brutal and exhausting depression is. First-hand experience is the only way he'll be convinced out of this position.
@Casper-Ghost2 жыл бұрын
Destiny always wakes up and chooses verbal violence; I'm here for it. Sneako's attempt to gaslight Jidion was hilarious. Poor kid thinks he's the smartest in the room but he's really just the cringiest. His rant about Depression pissed me off first; then I laughed when I realized he's just a kid that took a High School Psychology class and dreamed about doing a few open mics. Thankfully Aba kept that shit to a minimum like a boss; the only thing missing was The Floor.
@Ribald13372 жыл бұрын
Cringe response
@niclastname2 жыл бұрын
Yeah Sneako has Main Character Syndrome hard. He's one of those "I was sad once, and so in my brain that _is_ clinical depression. Therefore anyone who says they have that just means the same as that time I was kinda sad". He literally has no idea what he's talking about lmao. He also has that "if it's not the far extreme, it's not real" fallacy in his view. "Oh the guy that offed himself really had issues, but if they don't go ham with it then they're faking". What an unmitigated dumbass... haha
@austinl51582 жыл бұрын
"I'm here for it" Reddit personified
@MakiiBeats2 жыл бұрын
It’s crazy that everyone here (besides the guy in the top right) I’ve watched for years constantly and now they all homies haha
@pedro153052 жыл бұрын
The more I hear of sneako the more I think Destiny only said he was smart to try to win him over, it's unreal
@dabinori2 жыл бұрын
“All you blacks are alright” good lord wtf 💀
@Nellufy2 жыл бұрын
Sneako is as emotional as the radical feminists/liberals he complains about. Projection much?
@ferrarifem112 жыл бұрын
fr
@loopymomy25322 жыл бұрын
Bingo.
@thelegacyofgaming29282 жыл бұрын
Both left and right extremes are just emotional idiots.
@christopherismusicallyinclined Жыл бұрын
Irony
@puperman42082 жыл бұрын
Bro really said bullying makes people better right after talking about etika
@crmpts2 жыл бұрын
How much Aba loved that nick was into black girls was wholesome af 😂😂
@loopymomy25322 жыл бұрын
Nick isn't though 😂. He rather marry a woman his color to produce his genes. Which actually is ok tbh
@Blue.18892 жыл бұрын
@@loopymomy2532 I think he’s one of those guys whose views on race dictate who he’d seriously date/settle down with but doesn’t matter in terms of who he’d find sexually attractive
@loopymomy25322 жыл бұрын
@@Blue.1889 super weird but I gotcha. Some people are just weird tbh
@bigoffwhite Жыл бұрын
@@Blue.1889he’s a virgin never been with a woman before in his life.
@WanderTheNomad2 жыл бұрын
How did Nick have a better take than Sneako on the depression thing?
@thelegacyofgaming29282 жыл бұрын
Nick is an adult
@WanderTheNomad2 жыл бұрын
@@thelegacyofgaming2928 You mean in terms of maturity? Because I'm pretty sure they were both born in the same year
@thegamingkitchen84292 жыл бұрын
If this is the height of human thinking then....
@mr.puggin83842 жыл бұрын
Sneeko: no one should show emotions depression. Sneeko always angry and showing emotions
@medicdroid12 жыл бұрын
Sneako making fun of Ethan on antidepressants while also trying to justify why he shouldn't be made fun of and called a loser cause people only want to bring him down is hilarious.
@zrivs Жыл бұрын
You can chose to be depressed or not as someone whose been through it many times thats 100% facts.
@shannonwilliams773 Жыл бұрын
I love streams like this being able to have decent conversations from both sides and even people in the middle and no trying to shove their beliefs and feelings on everyone
@key67232 жыл бұрын
9:40 these dudes got bullied in school like 99% of us including me when they were younger and couldn’t get over it, so now they use jokes as a way to get out their little ego boosts, grow up please, raise your kids with empathy.
@austinl51582 жыл бұрын
Lol you got bullied 😂
@key67232 жыл бұрын
@@austinl5158 there are two types of people in the world, people that admit they were subjected to discrimination in their lives, and people like you who are in denial. So did you, bullying is literally an intrinsic part of social hierarchy’s.
@vitocarlucci11142 жыл бұрын
@@key6723 long way of saying you were a loser
@StretchPig2 жыл бұрын
Why is Sneako a thing….?
@Loki_Leftist2 жыл бұрын
Cause people love to hate. spreading negativity is more accepted and praised then trying to be inclusive and loving
@StretchPig2 жыл бұрын
@@Loki_Leftist I mean I guess you’re right. Sneako could be doing real positive real world activities and no one would watch. Drama and toxic behavior is rewarded online.
@ChenKaifeng2 жыл бұрын
Sneako's actions also remind me me of that one white guy that Destiny stopped taking to after he admitted that all his political commentary on his channel was just for entertainment and he'd pretty much say anything and put on a fake front for clicks. Anyone remember who that was? Portman or something like that
@FullMetalAtheist2 жыл бұрын
6:26 Lol Sneako is lying 100%, he knows he said that but he's too insecure to admit to that. He is the type of person who is insecure and they have a lack internal validation about themself.
@Taurean_SAMA2 жыл бұрын
Anyone listening to sneako and taking it serious needs a wake up call ASAP.
@rylace2 жыл бұрын
We need to put Sneako in front of a mirror to test his self awareness.
@vicpeters64542 жыл бұрын
Not sneako saying D’Angelo is just on Twitter too much? Wow
@shkr8upsean2862 жыл бұрын
Sneako thinks people being entertained by him means he funny. Nah lil bro we laughing at you.
@inandoutoftheabyss9953 Жыл бұрын
"I dont think theres anyone in this room..." Jidion must not know who Nick Fuentes is.
@conehead41332 жыл бұрын
Sneakos world view is incredibly incoherent but he’s willing to blindly avoid fact and contradictions to his world view and nicks not only a direct parallel to that but also probably gonna add gas to that fire.
@nawdawg43002 жыл бұрын
Did that dude just say some people are depressed because they lack God in their life? That's wild.
@coollary12 жыл бұрын
Wow, idk why but this was so interesting to watch
@Darkpumpkin212 жыл бұрын
13:50 Sounds like sneako can't take a joke. What a bot dude, taking all of that shit seriously.
@fifiadan2 жыл бұрын
There are a lot of people who don’t respond to sympathy and respond to being told to man the hell up