Turkish Drop Spindle Tutorial

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JillianEve

JillianEve

Күн бұрын

In this Turkish drop spindle tutorial, I will show you how I spin on a Turkish spindle from making a leader to plying from a center pull ball. I will cover everything you need to know about spinning with a Turkish spindle!
If you want to get started spinning with a Turkish spindle, Paradise fibers has a great spindle to get you started (affiliate) bit.ly/3aQVUTx
Ashford also has a lovely Turkish spindle you can find on Amazon (affiliate link) amzn.to/2wR2paA
~~~ Materials ~~~
I Love Sheep Thrills sent the beautiful Finn sheep wool from her own flock for use in this video. Help me say thanks and show some appreciation by checking out her Facebook page! / ilovesheepthrills
The beautiful spindle named, “Neil” was provided by Whittling Away.
Learn to make a wrist distaff to help you spin on a spindle by watching this video! • Easy DIY Wrist Distaff...
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You can find more information about spinning with a spindle in the comprehensive book, Respect the Spindle: Spin Infinite Yarns with One Amazing Tool by Abby Franquemont (amazon affiliate link) amzn.to/39LwC9A
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Time Stamps
About the spindle 2:28
Set up the leader 3:35
Start the spin 5:11
Winding onto the spindle 5:55
Taking the single off the spindle 9:53
Ply from a center pull ball 10:41
Finished yarn 14:09
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@saragreenfield1648
@saragreenfield1648 2 жыл бұрын
My husband just walked in and said, "Oh it's your friend!" haha. He surprised me last week with a Turkish spindle he 3D printed for me. Thank you so much for teaching me how to use it!
@abirhussein9781
@abirhussein9781 Жыл бұрын
This is the most comprehensive spindle tutorial. Thank you for your clear instructions 🙂
@robertlombardo8437
@robertlombardo8437 2 жыл бұрын
I made a Turk spindle out of four popsicle sticks that I drilled holes into using only my hunting knife. I cut and glued them so they could fit together and then I stuck a chopstick through the holes. Cost me only a few hour's effort!
@JillianEve
@JillianEve 2 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@gbenother8755
@gbenother8755 Ай бұрын
Hours? To glue four sticks together and and gouge out a hole? Ain't no way. That's at least a weekend job, maybe two if you've got to sharpen your knife. And if you don't have a chopstick handy, this could easily become a ten day job. Whittling a chopstick can be very time consuming.
@luminous_stars
@luminous_stars 2 жыл бұрын
I love how you’ve shown how to use Turkish spindle from step A to Z! Thank you so much for a comprehensive guide😍
@biricikketenci3141
@biricikketenci3141 4 ай бұрын
Bunlardan benimde var ama nasıl kullanılacağını sizde öğreniyorum videonuzu tekrar izleyerek yapılışını tam olarak anlamak istiyiyorum, anlatımınız mükemmel çok teşekkür ederim ❤❤🙏🙏😍😍🤗🤗
@meatlemonade3338
@meatlemonade3338 2 ай бұрын
my spindle is supposed to be coming in the mail tomorrow and im so excited!!
@sewjackyo795
@sewjackyo795 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you this is the clearest demonstration I’ve seen. I think I’m ready to go now 😀
@narafritch3073
@narafritch3073 5 ай бұрын
I love your work always so well thought out and informative. Keep it up sister. Also just gotta say you are looking super cute. Have a great day.
@carolynadams2264
@carolynadams2264 2 жыл бұрын
I just acquited one from a member of our knitting group so your video is invaluable in helping me figure out what to do with it. Thank you so much!
@bagladysendtheferalspinner3761
@bagladysendtheferalspinner3761 3 жыл бұрын
I definitely agree that Finn sheep fleeces are wonderful. Cheers-Laura
@JillianEve
@JillianEve 3 жыл бұрын
They are! 🐑💜
@robinmitchell4721
@robinmitchell4721 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for teaching me how to ply my Turkish spun yarn. I'm going to have to really practice now. Love your shows.
@irabekker2705
@irabekker2705 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this tutorial! I have just started on a spinning wheel and was so attracted to especially the turkish spindle but also watched other videos for other spindles and it just did not feel right the method where you wind it up and then put it between your knees. It almost felt like a part of me could remember something else, another way of doing this and your video showed me exactly what I was after. Thank you! now I just have to go spindle hunting. Or making;-}
@JillianEve
@JillianEve 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful! Happy spinning! 💜🧶😄
@cynthiamael2517
@cynthiamael2517 8 ай бұрын
Evie you're the best! Thank you for all your amazing tutorials and hard work! You rock!
@MParentWetmore
@MParentWetmore Жыл бұрын
This is just a wonderfully made and comprehensive video on the Turkish spindle! You really teach the steps from beginning to end, in a clear and concise way. Yet you show/give details when needed. The best video I have seen on this topic. New subscriber. 😊
@deejcarter2003
@deejcarter2003 4 жыл бұрын
Ok, Girl your hair and makeup is gorgeous. Trey Chic🥰 Thanks for the spindle info too🤣
@JillianEve
@JillianEve 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! 💕 Thanks for watching! 😊
@MissSusan1
@MissSusan1 4 жыл бұрын
I’m so happy I watched your video. Thanks for saying that about when you ply you’re taking some of the twist out. That made so much sense to me. I had been thinking I was over twisting too much. Anyway, thanks 😊
@suzannefolsom7470
@suzannefolsom7470 3 жыл бұрын
Oh I love hearing you wax poetic about Finn sheep! One of my favorite fibers 😍
@amandakuykendallSHW
@amandakuykendallSHW 3 жыл бұрын
REALLY enjoyed your tutorial! You seem such a pleasant and positive person. Loved learning about the Turkish spindle.
@kimreese9400
@kimreese9400 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Jillian, I've stumbled across a little trick with spinning/plying on the Turkish: instead of holding the shaft between thumb and index finger to flick, I hold the yarn between first and middle fingers, and flick it with these two fingers and thumb. I think this is not only more comfortable to hold, but seems more stable and reduces wobble as the spindle spins.
@JillianEve
@JillianEve 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I'm going to try that! 🧶
@musicalatv
@musicalatv 2 жыл бұрын
How you wind the spun yarn onto the Turkish spindle reminds me of making something that we call the God's eye when I was in elementary school. I even went out and then back in just a little bit and called it a picture frame.
@christinasavage2348
@christinasavage2348 3 ай бұрын
Great and thorough tutorial thank you.
@theavanson3364
@theavanson3364 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks sweet lady. 💐
@katrinaeisch7444
@katrinaeisch7444 Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the video! I just started spinning on a high whorl drop spindle (and loving the process) but was interested in trying other spindle types so I 3D printed a turkish drop spindle then had no idea how to use it so this tutorial saved me! I'm finding it so much easier to see how my yarn is changing every few inches which will hopefully help me with consistent spinning... I already have a second spindle on the printer - the first one is only 20g and I'm finding that it doesn't spin for very long so I'm printing one that should be 40g. Again thanks for the video, all your tutorials are great!
@erinsmith4119
@erinsmith4119 3 жыл бұрын
I've seen a few videos of yours and I just have to say I love your hair! The way you style it is so fun and seems to suit you very well. (I'm also learning so much but that's to be expected with such well made videos)
@JillianEve
@JillianEve 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!! Happy spinning!😊💜🧶
@asherthedisaster4724
@asherthedisaster4724 Жыл бұрын
i went to the local yarn store today and got a very infusicastic sales pitch about these from one of the ladies in a knitting cirlcle there. it was a bit out of my price range but i'm glad to know more
@sharonwaddell2548
@sharonwaddell2548 4 жыл бұрын
Lovely Finn fleece! Thanks for making this video. I’ve felt intimidated by the Turkish spindle, but I think I might give one a go. I love the little niddy noddy!
@JillianEve
@JillianEve 4 жыл бұрын
The smaller niddy noddy is so convenient for sample skeins! Let me know if you like the Turkish spindle. Once you figure out how to wind on, it's gravy!
@eatoffthegoodchina155
@eatoffthegoodchina155 4 жыл бұрын
Your timing is perfect! We are traveling in Germany and Italy this month, so I grabbed a Turkish spindle and a bag of wool. Hmmm.... are you ‘self taught’ if you follow Evie frame by frame? Maybe it’s YouTaught?
@JillianEve
@JillianEve 4 жыл бұрын
Wow! I hope you have a wonderful trip! Think about all the people who walked the planet throughout history, spinning as they went! It's the perfect traveling companion! 💜
@sananebanane4263
@sananebanane4263 2 жыл бұрын
Evettt bizim yöresel iplik yun egirmesi ( KİRMEN ) DIYORUZ...🌹🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🤩🤩
@JillianEve
@JillianEve 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I'm so happy to know the Turkish word for this spindle. I love this kirmen for spinning wool! ❤🧶😊
@oldirtykungfu1287
@oldirtykungfu1287 8 ай бұрын
thanks for the great youtorial and a bit of history too! I tried doing the backspin with my left hand and it’s way easier than the reverse flick. cheers!
@annathy
@annathy 5 ай бұрын
Thank you Evie!
@angelayarnivoregirl5009
@angelayarnivoregirl5009 2 жыл бұрын
Ok - now I am SO EXCITED! I just need to find my Turkish spindle!
@valeriebishop561
@valeriebishop561 11 ай бұрын
Love your scarf btw! I just bought a turkish spindle from Snyder Spindles at the South Eastern Animal Fiber Fair (SAFF) this weekend. Have been trying it out and this really helps! thank you!
@jenniferbrighty5120
@jenniferbrighty5120 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Evie, im so glad that this popped up on my feed. I was wondering how to start Spinning with the Turkish Spindles. I'm goibg ti give them a ",Spin (pun intended)" later . Thankyou so much for this video. Happy Spinning. Take care & stay safe . Love Jen xxxx
@Which-Craft
@Which-Craft Жыл бұрын
Just got my first Turkish spindle today. Did a little bit on it and it's definitely different than a regular drop spindle, but fun! Let's see how this turns out!
@biricikketenci3141
@biricikketenci3141 4 ай бұрын
Çokkkkk teşekkür ederim 🙏🙏😍😍🤍🤍🤗🤗
@aprilholemo5439
@aprilholemo5439 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your tutorial! I am happy to have started my first turtle! 😀
@gypsybill
@gypsybill 4 ай бұрын
Very informative, thank you
@sadiesspincraft6319
@sadiesspincraft6319 4 жыл бұрын
I've only ever spun on my handmade drop spindle I so need to buy one x
@snglpeon4511
@snglpeon4511 Жыл бұрын
Teşekkürler. Oldukça detaylı bir anlatım.
@resourcedragon
@resourcedragon 10 ай бұрын
The original Captain Hastings was Hercule Poirot's side-kick. His character was heavily based on that of Dr Watson in the Sherlock Holmes stories. So I wonder if "I love sheep thrills" also has a sheep called Poirot.
@lisarametta9977
@lisarametta9977 4 жыл бұрын
Love your videos! Finn skeins are beautiful:) Turtles my fav for center pull - it' doesn't have "twisty mystery " you referred to previously , nice to have a little basket of them ready to go , they stay nicely wound A nostepine works really well also (Etsy) cobweb lace spindle spinners use them commonly . Can be very plain or elaborate. Lots of antiques with great histories and romantic tales - fun stuff!
@JillianEve
@JillianEve 4 жыл бұрын
I love all the history and stories of spinning and spinning equipment too! You are right! Lots of fun stuff!
@lisarametta9977
@lisarametta9977 4 жыл бұрын
JillianEve I was truly surprised 🤗when you shared the out of print spinning book and said it was a favorite ! I own a copy and recently thought I should gift it , if I ever found someone who would actually love it . If you'd like it , it might make a great giveaway, or you may know another bibliophile/ spinner it would make smile . Let me know , even if it's at a later date . I'm glad to send it
@JillianEve
@JillianEve 4 жыл бұрын
@@lisarametta9977 Oh my goodness! That book is still floating around out there! Haha! Do you have Instagram? Can I send you a DM? I'm @jillianevefa
@cherrynarissamitchellocamp4018
@cherrynarissamitchellocamp4018 Жыл бұрын
Thanks was sharing had heard of the Mayan ones but was curious about the Turkish ones as I am in process of adopting two French angoras . French angoras are originally from Ankara Turkey though china is the place that breeds most of the angoras now days for world supply
@Sarah-KateH
@Sarah-KateH 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful 🤩
@keeka87ninja
@keeka87ninja 2 жыл бұрын
This was so helpful. Thank you.
@africamoniz8117
@africamoniz8117 18 күн бұрын
Lovely !!!
@Amy-nu1sm
@Amy-nu1sm Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@marlenewastell6436
@marlenewastell6436 3 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial. Thanks!
@JillianEve
@JillianEve 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@marlenewastell6436
@marlenewastell6436 3 жыл бұрын
@@JillianEve You explained it so well. I’ve subscribed and look forward to viewing more of your offerings!
@valerieellison2483
@valerieellison2483 Жыл бұрын
I always spin off the thumb rather than into the palm. I just switch hands for singles and plying.
@sadiesspincraft6319
@sadiesspincraft6319 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video I'm defo gonna have to buy one of these just to do the pattern on the spindle lol x xx
@JillianEve
@JillianEve 4 жыл бұрын
With your lovely dyed fibers I bet your turtles will be gorgeous! 💜
@sadiesspincraft6319
@sadiesspincraft6319 4 жыл бұрын
@@JillianEve I can only imagine until I buy 1 hahaha xxx
@c.c.1366
@c.c.1366 10 ай бұрын
Isn't Captain Hastings the "John Watson" second-banana character in the Hercule Poirot stories?
@klutzygurl411
@klutzygurl411 3 жыл бұрын
Question when do you Know your spindle is full?
@JillianEve
@JillianEve 3 жыл бұрын
When it slows down and gets annoying to spin, I consider it full. 🧶🐑✨
@kittylevee4662
@kittylevee4662 3 жыл бұрын
You are spinning clockwise. Are you winding on the other way⁉️🤔 💜💙💚💛🧡❤
@JillianEve
@JillianEve 3 жыл бұрын
When I use a spindle with a half hitch or a hook on top, it doesn't matter as much. It i wound the other way on a supported spindle I would have a mess! 🎃
@goldensolitude
@goldensolitude 3 жыл бұрын
I am still trying to get my turtle too be as even as yours. Could you give another tutorial on building the cob?
@JillianEve
@JillianEve 3 жыл бұрын
Start slow and scoot it in place with your fingernail so they all line up in order. It gets faster with practice! 💕
@preciousclanton9244
@preciousclanton9244 Жыл бұрын
She kinda reminds me of Mama P from Just Add Magic
@GwynethNotPaltrow1
@GwynethNotPaltrow1 Жыл бұрын
Was Jessica ever able to get her business going? I tried searching but I couldn't find a link. Looks like a beautiful spindle.
@usgribbles
@usgribbles 4 жыл бұрын
Loved this video 😊 Can you please advise the dimensions of the spindle you used in this video?
@JillianEve
@JillianEve 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! The spindle is 6" tall, 4" across the arms, and 1.2 oz. It is a lovely little spindle!
@autley6206
@autley6206 2 жыл бұрын
Slightly off topic but when you are plying and get to the end of the turtle do you cut the ends or leave the “loop”?
@JillianEve
@JillianEve 2 жыл бұрын
I leave the loop. 😊🧶💜
@MrBloodprice
@MrBloodprice 4 жыл бұрын
So you still need to put the yarn on a niddy noddy to make a skein and wash it to 'set the twist' when you are done?
@JillianEve
@JillianEve 4 жыл бұрын
I usually wash my yarn when I finish. It settles the twist and restores the crimp to the fiber. A lot of yarn is stretched out and "flat" when it comes off a spindle and washing it gives it back the bounce and loft. Happy spinning!
@jlmm4435
@jlmm4435 2 жыл бұрын
I’m brand new and looking for a spindle! Your videos are so helpful!! What are your thoughts on babydoll sheep? Is their fiber finer? Thankyou!!
@margaretradek971
@margaretradek971 10 ай бұрын
I can't understand, I load everything u[, give the twist. The spindle makes a few clockwise rotations and then turns the other way as soon as I let it loose. Can anyone help me?
@ruthcline5465
@ruthcline5465 2 жыл бұрын
I’m amazed by the Turkish Spindle! I think I’ll have to go from a yarn buyer to a yarn spinner 😃
@tulayaydilek2839
@tulayaydilek2839 8 ай бұрын
Turkish women doing that by walking , it's practical
@NeedleKeepers
@NeedleKeepers Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure I understand why you make 2 layers? Why is it necessary to first wind 1 over/1 under, then after a bit wind 2 over/1 under? So appreciate your video and assistance!
@MParentWetmore
@MParentWetmore Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure it's always 2 over and one under. That is what makes the pattern and balanced ball of yarn.
@merryburton1940
@merryburton1940 Жыл бұрын
I've tried to find this spindle....and Idea how to get in contact with Jessica Herod?
@cynthiastandley5742
@cynthiastandley5742 2 жыл бұрын
Does it matter what direction you twist the leader on the upper part of the arm of the spindle before you put on the half-hitch?
@JillianEve
@JillianEve 2 жыл бұрын
I usually wind the same direction I spin but it doesn't really matter. Sometimes I switch it up to give my hand a break. 🧶💕
@cynthiastandley5742
@cynthiastandley5742 2 жыл бұрын
@@JillianEve I think I was not clear. I'm talking about the winding that goes up the arm and ends in the half hitch at the top of the arm. Not the winding on of the turtle. I see some people don't wind up the arm, but it goes straight to the half hitch. Hope that makes sense.
@JillianEve
@JillianEve 2 жыл бұрын
@@cynthiastandley5742 oh I see! I like to wind up because it seems to wobble less. That could depend on the spindle/spinner too. 🧶💕
@cynthiastandley5742
@cynthiastandley5742 2 жыл бұрын
@@JillianEve Great! Thank you very much.
@willowallen4764
@willowallen4764 Жыл бұрын
Did she ever get her shop open for the spindle?
@JillianEve
@JillianEve Жыл бұрын
Not that I know of. I think she is keeping it very local.
@merryburton1940
@merryburton1940 Жыл бұрын
Do you have contact info for her?
@wolfsmensch1_051
@wolfsmensch1_051 3 жыл бұрын
its sad, that there are no subtiltles, but other than that the video is great
@JillianEve
@JillianEve 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry, I didn't realize there weren't subtitles on this one. I'll get that fixed. 🧶💜
@wolfsmensch1_051
@wolfsmensch1_051 3 жыл бұрын
@@JillianEve Thank you!👍
@JillianEve
@JillianEve 3 жыл бұрын
Ok! I just went in and updated all the subtitles with punctuation and spelling correction so it should be easier to watch and understand. I hope that helps! Happy spinning! 🧶💜😊
@nikkieknits7544
@nikkieknits7544 2 жыл бұрын
I just watched the live today aug 8th 2022 and I asked a question and mark directed me to this video (great video) but it did not address my question. I was wondering why when I am finished a single on my Turkish spindle and I do wrap it the same way eve does. When when I take it off the spindle and arms out. Dose it not stay together it curls up at time. I think it might be because of the amount of twist. 9more twist causing it to curl up?) aside from less twist (cuz sometime more is needed) is there anything I can do to keep it from curling up and tangling? I currently wind it off the turtle (arms still though the turtle) onto a bobbin until I’m ready to ply it then I ply it from a lazy Kate. Is there a better way ? Thanks for your time 🧶Nikkieknits 🧶
@JillianEve
@JillianEve 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, you are onto it. It's your amount of twist. Try letting it rest and relax a few days before taking it off the spindle. 😊
@ToujoursPurSang
@ToujoursPurSang 3 жыл бұрын
I've been spinning on my turkish spindles for about eight months now and I've noticed that mine don't really raise up high, they just creep down the arms and get wider. Also when going under the arms should I make sure the thread lays right next to the previous one?
@JillianEve
@JillianEve 3 жыл бұрын
I lay mine next to each other to keep it organized and pretty. You can make layers to make it go taller. Just start another layer by bringing the yarn right up to the shaft and laying it out again.
@ToujoursPurSang
@ToujoursPurSang 3 жыл бұрын
@@JillianEve I do that as well, I just see people with these really tall Turtles and mine's just growing wider not taller. Maybe I need to make my layers shorter and stack them more? I don't know, the Turkish spindle has been a really fun toy to play with, I have now bought 5 3D printed ones and I've got my eye on two more in Walnut.
@amandag5072
@amandag5072 Жыл бұрын
How can you draft like that? I have been trying to draft, and no matter what I do, however thin I make the floof, it never drafts like that. It either breaks apart after only a few centimeters of pulling or just becomes hard and unweilding. I've made sure the twist isn't entering the drafting area, and pre drafted. Franky, I'm at the point of giving up. I've tried to find youtube videos about drafting, but none, not even yours, explains how to properly pre draft, and prepare floof for spinning. All the videos just show large floofs being easily drafted. Which is just not happening here.
@beadavis6670
@beadavis6670 10 ай бұрын
Thank you love the Claire easy way you explain .I'm total beginner 🌝
@laurencedusaulx3502
@laurencedusaulx3502 Жыл бұрын
I have tried, but my TS after very few twists turns the other way....therefore un-swisting everything. what do I do wrong I use merino roving.
@mindyspoon720
@mindyspoon720 2 жыл бұрын
Extremely helpful, thank you so much. Please can you tell me what size your little niddy noddy is? And where I can get one! I watch all your videos and love them 🙏💕
@JillianEve
@JillianEve 2 жыл бұрын
It might be the sampler from Ashford. I'll have to rewatch the video to remember! 😅
@phlox9293
@phlox9293 2 жыл бұрын
lovely video! I'm curious if you have any videos about your Finn sheep blanket process?
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