Jim Cornette on Andre The Giant & The Big Show

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7 жыл бұрын

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@Thedesertguy75
@Thedesertguy75 6 жыл бұрын
Andre helped carve the national popularity of wrestling in ways no other wrestler could have. He is a true legend.
@bigearl33
@bigearl33 7 жыл бұрын
Big show has been jobbed out, way too much , ,, Andre never had to deal with that.
@RaithSienar
@RaithSienar 7 жыл бұрын
bigearl33 Vince Sr wanted to protect Andres rep so he didn't allow him to job, if Andre lost it was meant to be a big deal. Big Show doesn't get that respect, he gets treated simultaneously like a joke and like he is supposed to be a serious enforcer of the will of the WWE however that enforcer role is hampered by the constant ridiculing he receives which is clearly a jab at him by some pissant in creative that is intimidated and emasculated by his size.
@raiderking69
@raiderking69 6 жыл бұрын
BS. Andre Jobbed himself out and he loved it. Because he knew he was getting paid one way or the other.
@willthomas2310
@willthomas2310 6 жыл бұрын
Wrong! it's called putting younger talent over. Andre did the exact same thing towards the end of his career, like what Big show is doing now.
@tommyhallum4207
@tommyhallum4207 6 жыл бұрын
also there was only a few guys that were even close to Andre's size but there are several and I mean several wrestlers in the Big Show's era that were his size or maybe even a little bigger.
@iamgodspeed6443
@iamgodspeed6443 5 жыл бұрын
@@willthomas2310 but that's because his health was declining
@yallevereatenbeans2723
@yallevereatenbeans2723 6 жыл бұрын
I feel really bad for Big Show because I think if we could turn back time and restart his career and didn't job him out, turn him every other day and pushed him consistently as a monster he would be looked upon in the same way as undertaker is, as this constant monstrous figure who rarely lost and destroyed pretty much everyone
@TroyandMilva
@TroyandMilva 6 жыл бұрын
1000% right! Andre is and will always be the Giant!!!
@cragerzz
@cragerzz 4 жыл бұрын
Even though hes smaller
@jamesdesomma3639
@jamesdesomma3639 5 жыл бұрын
It used to piss me off when big show 1st started they billed him in wcw as "the son of Andre".
@Ted_Bell
@Ted_Bell 4 жыл бұрын
Cause you're a loser who doesn't understand rub.
@jamesdesomma3639
@jamesdesomma3639 4 жыл бұрын
@@Ted_Bell so yet again, another person without a vocabulary to debate an issue, so they resort to name calling. How junior high school of you
@dr.floridamanphd
@dr.floridamanphd 4 жыл бұрын
That was very short lived because Vince sued WCW over that.
@chrischar9428
@chrischar9428 3 жыл бұрын
@@dr.floridamanphd uh yeah no
@dr.floridamanphd
@dr.floridamanphd 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrischar9428, prove me wrong.
@distantandvague
@distantandvague 7 жыл бұрын
There literally isn't a single topic in the world of wrestling (or life, probably) that Cornette couldn't instantly redirect back to the Midnight Express/Rock N' Roll Express.
@Supervillain725
@Supervillain725 6 жыл бұрын
"There literally isn't a single topic in the world of wrestling (or life, probably) that Cornette couldn't instantly," shit all over. Corny has got to be the most miserable man with a wrestling-related show. He's one step away from Clint Eastwood in Gran Turismo, except w/out being Clint Eastwood.
@RealFuckingReviews
@RealFuckingReviews 5 жыл бұрын
@@Supervillain725 waaaaaaahhhhhhh
@KablamoVEVO
@KablamoVEVO 5 жыл бұрын
@@Supervillain725 Gran Tarino, dammit
@Supervillain725
@Supervillain725 5 жыл бұрын
@@KablamoVEVO great movie
@williamblackfyre4866
@williamblackfyre4866 5 жыл бұрын
It would be pretty cool to have Clint Eastwood in Grand Turismo tho.
@blackjackthompson1017
@blackjackthompson1017 6 жыл бұрын
Difference between Andre and Show is Andre sold out arenas, Show sold to every wrestler on the roster.
@johnderekmitchell1510
@johnderekmitchell1510 5 жыл бұрын
Chalk that up to Vince's over exposure.
@Christoffski
@Christoffski 5 жыл бұрын
@@johnderekmitchell1510 Yeah, Vince booked his very first match at a PPV. All whilst he was in WCW. -Nods-
@smallworldz7241
@smallworldz7241 5 жыл бұрын
Sold dope
@sketchstevens5859
@sketchstevens5859 4 жыл бұрын
@@johnderekmitchell1510 Yeah, Vince really ruined Big Show by having everyone job him.
@chadmcfly1299
@chadmcfly1299 4 жыл бұрын
If big show was in his prime during Andre’s era he would have sold out arenas too. Different time.
@mikesacino6644
@mikesacino6644 5 жыл бұрын
I remember watching Andre growing up in the 80's.
@lalosrizo8129
@lalosrizo8129 6 жыл бұрын
Andre and 3 girls on each arm puts a whole new meaning to a handicap hardcore "match" hahaha 😂😂
@stevenpeeven3169
@stevenpeeven3169 2 жыл бұрын
Nice
@drewstar8611
@drewstar8611 5 жыл бұрын
Andre vs Stan Hansen in Japan tells you everything you need to know about Andre in his prime..... phenomenal worker!!!!
@EXPLISITemcee
@EXPLISITemcee 7 жыл бұрын
The Giant did dropkicks too...in 96
@kingrama27
@kingrama27 5 жыл бұрын
EXPLISIT HIPHOP so did Andre when he was younger
@kingrama27
@kingrama27 5 жыл бұрын
Jim Cornette big show never did huricuranas. There’s no footage or interviews stating that he did
@ckalus
@ckalus 5 жыл бұрын
Jim Cornette I don’t think anyone did back in Andre’s day.
@madhatter8508
@madhatter8508 5 жыл бұрын
@ Big Show did a moonsault. He never did a Frankensteiner.
@ef_445_7
@ef_445_7 4 жыл бұрын
chas kalus yh Jake the snake said Andre could do a back flip in the 1940/50
@TheCastellan
@TheCastellan 6 жыл бұрын
I remember hearing how he was friends with Schwarzenegger, and they were having lunch together one time, and Arnie wanted to pay the bill, but Andre insisted, to the point he grabbed Arnie and carried him back to the table and went to cover the bill himself.
@dr.floridamanphd
@dr.floridamanphd 4 жыл бұрын
Andre always paid. That was his thing. He took it as an insult if you tried to pay for him.
@BeeBumper
@BeeBumper 6 жыл бұрын
They squandered the Big Show.
@gravewax5892
@gravewax5892 5 жыл бұрын
As a fan of Andre starting in the 80s due to my age, I remember him though he wasn't the most mobile still being booked as unstoppable, which he was lol. Then seeing the 70s Andre and how he moved was just incredible. Big show is amazing too but yeah Andre was something special
@davidyates1860
@davidyates1860 2 жыл бұрын
watched Andre since 76. my all time fav.
@mike000395
@mike000395 7 жыл бұрын
Big Show AKA "Not Andre"
@1776mikew
@1776mikew 7 жыл бұрын
One of the wrestlers tried Andre in a hotel and Andre almost threw him off of a balcony.
@dillclinton4379
@dillclinton4379 7 жыл бұрын
am I the only person that thinks big show was actually better in WCW?
@Djarra
@Djarra 7 жыл бұрын
Yep although even then he flip flopped, he joined and left the nWo twice in a year.
@dillclinton4379
@dillclinton4379 7 жыл бұрын
He was actually a monster heel in WCW it seems like most of the time in WWE he was the comic relief
@Djarra
@Djarra 7 жыл бұрын
He started out as a monster heel in the Dungeon of Doom, then was a face fighting the nWo alongside Sting, DDP and Luger, then he betrayed Sting to the nWo and joined them before having a dispute with Hogan and betraying the nWo to Sting so becoming a face again then he rejoined the nWo before leaving again when the nWo split being a face breifly before he went on to rejoin the Dungeon of Doom however he then turned face before he showed up on WWF as a heel again.
@electricdevil2422
@electricdevil2422 7 жыл бұрын
He was much more athletic in WCW, especially his earlier run. One of his early matches, he'd pull off some crazy moves like dropkicks into the corner. Once Big Show started putting on weight, his knees started to suffer and he straight-up got lazy. Undertaker in his very few shoot interviews (he did a few shoots during his "American Badass" gimmick, has noted that he was really angry at Big Show for being lazy and not wanting to get into better shape.
@Djarra
@Djarra 7 жыл бұрын
Sting also berates him for getting lazy which is the reason WCW let him go, he started out good but by the end he was just doing the bare minimum.
@leefear4233
@leefear4233 7 жыл бұрын
Andre was pretty agile in his day there's on old match where he does a running tombstone never seen anyone do that before or since
@aaronscott4984
@aaronscott4984 5 жыл бұрын
Must not watched a lot of wrestling in the 90's since Owen Hart did the jumping tombstones all the fucking time
@at1212b
@at1212b 3 жыл бұрын
@@aaronscott4984 no he didnt you turd.
@jamirimaj6880
@jamirimaj6880 3 жыл бұрын
where was it? do you remember?
@chriscornelius2518
@chriscornelius2518 7 жыл бұрын
If Andre the Giant was around today he would be mocked. They would have used him up just as they used Big Show. Immediate gratification and exposure is what seemed to hurt our perception of Big Show. Cornette really explained it pretty well.
@mattheweble5550
@mattheweble5550 7 жыл бұрын
No, they wouldn't have. Here's why....Andre would have bitch slapped the hell out of anyone who even suggested partially that they use him like WWE used 'Show. Even Vince couldn't tell Andre what to do.
@borednow5838
@borednow5838 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah think he nailed it. Wish I had been around for Andre's peak years.
@pullupthen5073
@pullupthen5073 6 жыл бұрын
Matthew Eble lol Vince would've just fired his ass
@GoldBawls
@GoldBawls 6 жыл бұрын
Pull up then And Andre would be working one show a month in Japan to stadium sell outs.
@Kfowlkes09
@Kfowlkes09 5 жыл бұрын
No, if Andre were around today, he'd be booked like Undertaker or Brock Lesnar, a rarely seen special attraction that rarely loses.
@SunnySydeRamsay
@SunnySydeRamsay 7 жыл бұрын
Cornette's explanation on how it's impossible to get heat was actually genius.
@r3d3y3si
@r3d3y3si 5 жыл бұрын
@@dangoldstein3480 you're some sort of perverted weirdo?
@1980Triumph
@1980Triumph 7 жыл бұрын
His co host sounds like a host for NPR than wrestling.......she makes me laugh for being so jarring.
@fjccommish
@fjccommish 7 жыл бұрын
She's the generic radio voice gal.
@rickylucas6503
@rickylucas6503 7 жыл бұрын
1980Triumph she sounds like a lawyer.
@MrArgus11111
@MrArgus11111 7 жыл бұрын
He fired her a few weeks ago for butting in too much lol
@squeadlysr.2370
@squeadlysr.2370 7 жыл бұрын
she was alright but shes no brian last.
@duvalcounty5861
@duvalcounty5861 5 жыл бұрын
Cornys wife
@SuperFunkmachine
@SuperFunkmachine 7 жыл бұрын
The Big Shows problem is that he's been on TV for years straight what is there left for him to do?
@at1212b
@at1212b 6 жыл бұрын
+SuperFunmachine Big Show has no Aura. Taker always did and will outrank Big Show in terms of smarts, charisma. If Andre was around, Taker would be Andre's enforcer whereas he would regularly chew Big Show out for being lazy, not working strong enough, etc.
@Alamyst2011
@Alamyst2011 4 жыл бұрын
I knida like his Sitcom. ;)
@keeponsearchingearth1543
@keeponsearchingearth1543 6 жыл бұрын
I remember when Andre stared in "The Six Million Dollar Man" in 1973 with Lee Majors
@dabunnyman9133
@dabunnyman9133 7 жыл бұрын
Might've been interesting back in the territory days then with Andre working WWWF and maybe Big Show in NWA. And then comes the tag team and then the breakup/feud. Money to be made.
@CGMedia2023
@CGMedia2023 7 жыл бұрын
If guys sold for Big Show HALF as much as they sold for Andre, he'd have been every bit as over.
@wcwindom56
@wcwindom56 6 жыл бұрын
I met Andre when I was about 9 or 10 yrs old in the early 70s... I barely came up to his thigh.
@dr.floridamanphd
@dr.floridamanphd 4 жыл бұрын
I met Hogan at my grandpa’s beach shop in Tampa when I was 5 in 1987. I think I might’ve come up to his kneecap. 😂 He used to visit that shop pretty frequently. Always dropped $100 bill when he went in. A few occasions he agreed to let my grandpa keep the credit card slip as an autograph for me.
@mg9138
@mg9138 5 жыл бұрын
"First guy that does it is always over more." Tell Buddy Rogers that about Ric Flair Tell Billy Graham that about Hulk Hogan By no means am I saying Big Show is more over than Andre was, but what he's saying there just isn't always the case.
@Revolutionary642
@Revolutionary642 3 жыл бұрын
Andre is arguably more famous than any of those guys name. On top of that none of those guys could compare because Andre was just different in size, aura, in ring ability during his prime.
@MrBeckenhimself
@MrBeckenhimself 3 жыл бұрын
But in THIS case he's spot on. Andre was more over and will always be. Of that there is no doubt.
@HyperActive7
@HyperActive7 6 жыл бұрын
One of our close family friends got to meet Andre one time in the airport and got to have a beer with the man. Nicest guy he ever met and was really a gentleman on top of it. As far as comparing Andre to Show.. It doesn't even come close because someone like Big Show is a common occurrence given how the internet and things are today. Back in the eighties, we didn't have such things so when we saw someone like Andre, we were blown away by his sheer size let alone he could take out five guys with one push. As for Big Show, I've followed his career ever since he debuted and yeah he's been a million things, but he doesn't come close to Andre and he'll even admit it himself.
@TheCastellan
@TheCastellan 5 жыл бұрын
7:05 I never understood that "no throw over the top rope thing."
@dr.floridamanphd
@dr.floridamanphd 4 жыл бұрын
That goes back to when they didn’t have padded mats on the floor. So it was more of a safety concern.
@mkl62
@mkl62 7 жыл бұрын
In 1979, a new pro wrestling publication hit newsstands and magazine racks across the nation. It was Pro Wrestling Illustrated. When the first issue went to press, Andre the Giant was ranked at #2 in the Most Popular Wrestlers category.
@kelvincrabtree1062
@kelvincrabtree1062 2 жыл бұрын
I remember as a little kid seeing Andre back in the 70's wrestling in Houston on Paul Boesch's program. On TV and live. Him, Ted Dibiase, Terry Funk, the Von Ericks... that's when they kept the enigma of the "realism" all the way out of the ring.
@scottjackson1420
@scottjackson1420 5 жыл бұрын
Rules of professional wrestling in the old days included "no foreign objects."
@truthtella2661
@truthtella2661 6 жыл бұрын
tons of stories of wrestlers standing up to Andre and Andre backing down
@RebornV3
@RebornV3 3 жыл бұрын
It comes down to the fact that Big Show has been booked like a joke for nearly 20 years if Big Show was still a monster and was protected or given similar treatment like Undertaker he would be much more popular then Andre. Andre having that giant look helped but if he was booked like a joke for 20 years like Show we wouldn't be having this conversation.
@Dont_Be_Afraid_0222
@Dont_Be_Afraid_0222 6 жыл бұрын
A lion mauling a puppy?!?!? LMFAO
@EXPLISITemcee
@EXPLISITemcee 7 жыл бұрын
Big Show is on Studs level...but not Andre.
@Ted_Bell
@Ted_Bell 4 жыл бұрын
Andre could kick Big Show's ass and yours at the same time from beyond the grave. Shut up you beta male.
@paulmccarthy3547
@paulmccarthy3547 4 жыл бұрын
@@Ted_Bell You completely misunderstood his comment.
@supportiveduck
@supportiveduck 4 жыл бұрын
@@paulmccarthy3547 You can tell from the undertale profile pic that he's not old and or knowledgeable enough of wrestling to know the guy was referring to Big John Studd
@extremeking425
@extremeking425 3 жыл бұрын
are you fucking dumb
@EXPLISITemcee
@EXPLISITemcee 3 жыл бұрын
@@extremeking425 baby yes if Dumb is your mom.im your dadda ..
@RyanIncorporated
@RyanIncorporated 7 жыл бұрын
See, I was under the same impression as Jim: that Andre didn't get the surgery because it wasn't available for him to do so. However, I read an article -- I believe it was a CBS Sports piece -- that mentioned he went into a hospital because he wasn't able to breathe when he laid down at night. Turns out he had fluid that had built up around his heart, and in the process of draining it they got curious and discovered -- for themselves -- that he had acromegaly. Andre told them he already knew because he had been diagnosed years back in Japan. Both times they urged him to have surgery, and both times he completely refused...wouldn't agree to it at all. I've just never really understood why. He was still in relatively good health, even during that hospital visit in (I believe) 1984. He could have spared himself a lot of unnecessary pain, and yet he simply wouldn't do it. Can you imagine the career he could have had if he'd chosen to really take care of himself? If he had the surgery and exercised a little bit? His career as it is is legendary, but to think he might have lasted even longer in the business in peak condition...it would have made for some compelling feuds. Could you imagine Andre vs. Undertaker, for instance?
@arthro9259
@arthro9259 7 жыл бұрын
I don't know what decade you were born in, but I was born in '73. People who were born during the 70's on back, believed that God gives you what ever you were born with and with the exception of a few rules here and there, you don't change that. Not saying that, Andre thought that way or that belief system is right or wrong, I'm just saying that's how folks thought back then. Had, Andre, been born during the late 80's up til the 2000's, his philosophy may have been different.
@RyanIncorporated
@RyanIncorporated 7 жыл бұрын
That's weird you say that, because in revisiting the article to refresh my memory, he is supposedly quoted as saying that if God intended for him to be the way he was, so be it...something along those lines. What you said actually helps his refusal make a lot of sense. I never was acutely aware of whether Andre was religious at all, but if that's a perspective largely held from your generation on back, that offers me a lot of perspective. I was born in 1989, so I thank you for giving me your perspective.
@TheCastellan
@TheCastellan 6 жыл бұрын
And might STILL be alive today.
@RestorationgroupOrgRIFT
@RestorationgroupOrgRIFT 6 жыл бұрын
In an interview Andre had actually said something to that effect.
@TheCastellan
@TheCastellan 5 жыл бұрын
@@arthro9259 That's like the story of the man, during a flood, on his roof....2 boats and one helicopter....he refuse, saying "no, GOD will take care of me!" He then find himself in heave....man drowned. He, standing before god and said, "God, I am disappointed. You were gonna take care of me." God said, "You dummy, I sent you 2 boats and a helicopter....what else did you want from me!"
@KillyJoe
@KillyJoe 3 жыл бұрын
Oh my god this interviewers voice I can’t imagine if this was the usual voice and not Brian
@ekzoX0
@ekzoX0 7 жыл бұрын
"Everyone wants to go out there and shyt whatever turd they can so people can go OMG that smells." pretty much sums up wwe universe as of late.
@JM1993951
@JM1993951 4 жыл бұрын
If WWF got their hands on Big Show in 1995 he would’ve been done within a year and never had a real career.
@barrys7093
@barrys7093 5 жыл бұрын
Ox Baker had the "heart punch " back in the day.
@Movado80
@Movado80 5 жыл бұрын
I love Cornette, he's a living wrestling encyclopedia. But he never answered the question as much as gave a historical lecture. If Big Show was in the era of Andre I think he would have done extremely well because he was still different than everyone else
@catnip8896
@catnip8896 5 жыл бұрын
Pretty much this. Big Show came into the business way to late. Back in the 80s they knew how to book a guy like that and protect him.
@SonnyBubba
@SonnyBubba 2 жыл бұрын
It Big Show had been a novice wrestler in the 60’s instead of the mid 90’s, he would have received different training, learned different skills, and would have had a different career. George Burns was once asked about the whether the transition from vaudeville stages to national tv programs would hurt the comedy business. His answer was “of course it will, because there’s no longer a place to be bad.” Andre learned the business through ten years experience, yet there were still audiences that never had seen him. During those ten years, Andre could practice, screw up, learn from his mistakes, and then there was a new audience that never saw the screw up. Big Show’s debut was on a national PPV. The whole country all saw him at once, but he was green.
@bartspringer686
@bartspringer686 7 жыл бұрын
I never knew the rule about the ringpost.
@daveteague47
@daveteague47 3 жыл бұрын
In the old days of the Dallas Sportatorium there is a whistleblower at ringside whenever a wrestler broke the rules.
@davidalvarez2893
@davidalvarez2893 4 жыл бұрын
I saw Andre doing dropkicks in the late 1970's!
@The-Dom
@The-Dom 5 жыл бұрын
Most people dont understand Andre was a total stud in his youth. He was "lean" and athletic af.
@joshuagumpert8910
@joshuagumpert8910 2 жыл бұрын
Yessir. The 6 foot 10 320 pounds, 25 year old Andre was a real mutant of a man. Fast, quick, and strong as hell. Scary.
@triplesixsdc8193
@triplesixsdc8193 6 жыл бұрын
In addition to what Cornette said about Andre's work in the 70's and early 80's, I saw matches of his in the St. Louis territory for Sam Muchnick. For those that don't know, the St Louis Wrestling Club during those days was known for having a lot of technical classics in the ring, kind of an early precursor to ROH. And Andre adapted to the style there. One time a guy had him in a rear waistlock. We're conditioned to think that a guy like Andre would muscle his way out of it. Instead, he did the deal where he sat out of it like technical wrestlers do and reversed it! Yes, Andre did this!
@tacoma171
@tacoma171 7 жыл бұрын
It was such a different time as well. Show was on tv and pay per view weekly and monthly in the 90s and 00s while Andre could be maintained as a huge attraction because he wasn't seen as much. Things had changed so much. If André had emerged when Show did, his career would've probably been far different...
@soulofanerd9364
@soulofanerd9364 5 жыл бұрын
Jim has great insight. Before listening to this I would've sworn Big Show would be more successful or over than Andre BUT after Jim's points, I totally see why/how Andre could not have been topped.
@douglasarnold5310
@douglasarnold5310 5 жыл бұрын
Ok, did Jim forget Hands of Stone Ron Garvin. He used a knock out punch in the mid 80's. Always wondered why he didn't get disqualified for that because as Jim said they had rules back then.
@Serioussmile51
@Serioussmile51 5 жыл бұрын
Larkin Love did a podcast with Jim? 😂😂😂
@GhostOfSparta332
@GhostOfSparta332 4 жыл бұрын
Best comment ever! 😂
@KHLB516
@KHLB516 Жыл бұрын
Only bad news did step up to try Andre and Andre was the one who didn’t want them problems
@WPGinterceptor460Interceptor
@WPGinterceptor460Interceptor 3 жыл бұрын
Seen Andre in person and always remember the, HANDS, HEAD, wow.. never forget the size.. im 6"2 280 by the way!
@cobfucious
@cobfucious 5 жыл бұрын
I think the only existing "rule" from my youth is the 5 count for being in/on the ropes, or in the corner not breaking...if the refs still count for that.
@lusterthomas2435
@lusterthomas2435 4 жыл бұрын
Big show got overexpose, Andrea was a territorial Superstar,he is the one and only giant .
@gregorykrug8034
@gregorykrug8034 5 жыл бұрын
Big Show was not used the right way IMO. A guy his size with his ability was not a Top 3 performer in the WWE.
@giovannisocci8793
@giovannisocci8793 7 жыл бұрын
Andre was amazing,I thought I was wrong and I never saw Andre flying and dropkicking a poor sap,now I now that I did,Long live Andre...now let s make America great.
@duvalcounty5861
@duvalcounty5861 5 жыл бұрын
And Razor The Bad guy is probably my favorite wrestler all time
@keithsterling433
@keithsterling433 4 жыл бұрын
andre the giant was the first big foot on the old six million dollar man tv show
@randyrichardson4270
@randyrichardson4270 3 жыл бұрын
"First one to do it first is over more" *Nature Boy Ric Flair has entered chat*
@revdga5911
@revdga5911 5 жыл бұрын
Ron Garven in the 80 was the Hands of Stone finisher was a punch...
@matthewgranahan9759
@matthewgranahan9759 5 жыл бұрын
Andre was The Man! Big Show is just another Wrassler
@gratewight69
@gratewight69 4 жыл бұрын
I think one could make an argument that Ric Flair was more popular overall than Buddy Rogers. Making the second Nature Boy the more over one.
@litodat233
@litodat233 6 жыл бұрын
You can’t even picture someone looking like Andre today he looked like a giant
@natdmc85
@natdmc85 5 жыл бұрын
Ultimate Dream tag team Andre "the giant" and "the big show" strewn bodies everywhere, reinforced rings, decimation hands down.
@selfiekroos1777
@selfiekroos1777 7 жыл бұрын
Available on iTunes?!
@martyodonnell6829
@martyodonnell6829 5 жыл бұрын
I just wanna know which wcw guy ccame up with big show was Andres son storyline
@kingrama27
@kingrama27 5 жыл бұрын
Marty Odonnell ummmmmm Hogan!!
@dr.floridamanphd
@dr.floridamanphd 4 жыл бұрын
Bischoff. They were immediately sued over that one too.
@GutsofEclipse
@GutsofEclipse Жыл бұрын
Andre looked like he stepped out of a horror movie, or like he was about to fight James Bond. Big Show just seemed like a guy who happened to be big.
@Exodus-sb8so
@Exodus-sb8so 4 жыл бұрын
Jim this is you at your best man.
@markgresch9944
@markgresch9944 7 жыл бұрын
Spot on about the rules. It also makes matches more predictable. You know a rope escape is never going to DQ. You know a ring out is practically non existent today, and while I do like chairs in wrestling, they've been done so much, they've lost their impact.
@Kfowlkes09
@Kfowlkes09 5 жыл бұрын
If Big Show worked in the 70's, he probably would have been booked more like a Don Leo Jonathon.
@samuelcreech8369
@samuelcreech8369 6 жыл бұрын
You guys need to find early to mid 70s Andre. I seen Andre in person in 1980, his body was just beginning to fail him, but to see a man of that size, move with speed in the ring was frightening. When legends die young, there's always gonna be a segment of the population that wants to chip away at their legacy. Bruce Lee seems to be a target now as well. Find some old footage of Andre before making any decisions on his legacy.
@damainmane4765
@damainmane4765 4 жыл бұрын
The best way to get good heat as of now is to put real issues into storylines
@EXPLISITemcee
@EXPLISITemcee 7 жыл бұрын
heart punch was around way before Big Shows punch
@EXPLISITemcee
@EXPLISITemcee 7 жыл бұрын
Ottiice The topic was punching legal or not ...I brought up the heart punch..meaning punches were somewhat legal..even before Big Show used his KO punch
@psychoticbuzzsaw
@psychoticbuzzsaw 7 жыл бұрын
watch how a heart punh is performed its like slamming your fst down not a "punch"
@EXPLISITemcee
@EXPLISITemcee 7 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Belmont it's allowed regardless...
@psychoticbuzzsaw
@psychoticbuzzsaw 7 жыл бұрын
yea because its not considered a punch.....
@EXPLISITemcee
@EXPLISITemcee 7 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Belmont sure it is....heart punch...I'm lost on the confusion ..punch is a punch
@Fender178
@Fender178 4 жыл бұрын
About the Pro Wrestling rules reminds me of the Smokey Mountain Tag Team championship match at the 1993 Survivor Series The Rock n Roll Express against the Heavenly Bodies where they were sanctioned under WWF/E rules or as Jim would say there are no rules well anyway one the Heavenly Bodies tossed one of the Rock N roll Express guys over the top rope and and the Rock N Roll express thought they won the match because of it being an automatic DQ but it was a WWF/E sanctioned match so that rule didn't exist.
@tomwalker389
@tomwalker389 6 жыл бұрын
Were the Lighting Express the poor man’s Fantastics?
@robertsheetz4877
@robertsheetz4877 3 жыл бұрын
Ronny Garvin had a closed fist finisher in the 80's... The hands of stone... As far a Giants are concerned ... They are common place ... There are so many guys over or close to 7 feet now... Back then it was a rarity...
@deadaccount7520
@deadaccount7520 5 жыл бұрын
Big show has talked about how little he knew about the business. And wasn't taught until he went north. Now. I don't necessarily know if that company was more open to on the job training. Or if it was being on the same roster as the most universally respected pro wrestler of all time. Who just so happened to be a big man.
@bricemckeel255
@bricemckeel255 2 жыл бұрын
Show talked on Austin’s podcast about how little he knew about how to work the business even DURING his first big push. He said working with Austin was what opened his mind to the fact that he didn’t need to sell to bad wrestlers.
@BloodPump
@BloodPump 7 жыл бұрын
'Oh my god that smells!' My thoughts exactly about being thrown into the turnbuckle or throwing someone over the top being a DQ
@greedyd5524
@greedyd5524 7 жыл бұрын
Big Show could never be as good as his dad.
@thegrinch9307
@thegrinch9307 6 жыл бұрын
Greedy D Andre is not his dad
@stedaglivecouk12
@stedaglivecouk12 6 жыл бұрын
Andre had a much higher fear factor, very few dares take him on. But Big Show gets beat by everyone
@Danielson1818
@Danielson1818 5 жыл бұрын
She asked the question wrong and he answered it wrong..... She asked if Big Show was around back in the 70's and 80's... Jim said No, because Andre was around 1st starting in the 60's. Ok, but she really meant, what if both GIANTS came out at the same time/era. I believe that was the spirit of her question, and I actually believe the Big Show might've been more of a hit, because of athleticism. The people talking about Show being a "jobber" aren't thinking right. The question was if show was put back into Andre's era with that type of booking..... I don't know, but I would LOVE to have seen them in the same ring.
@marcelmoreau2733
@marcelmoreau2733 7 жыл бұрын
little known fact: The rocks andre crushes in princess bride were not props. someone forgot to change them out and he crushed real rocks from the set.
@InvestBetter.
@InvestBetter. Жыл бұрын
I think the question should be: If Paul Whygt was the first giant, 50 years ago, being a better worker, a better talker, and a better athlete, would Andre have still gotten over, being the second giant? Or would he have just been another Giant Gonzales, Great Khali, etc? IMO, Andre got over huge because he was unique, a one of a kind. His timing was impeccable!
@jgfear
@jgfear 4 жыл бұрын
First person that does something is always over more... I guess Nature Boy Buddy Rogers is the exception to the rule because Ric Flair was more over then Rogers ever was.
@deckarobinson2768
@deckarobinson2768 6 жыл бұрын
ME & MY PARTNER LOVE THAT MOVIE BECAUSE OF ANDRE PLUS I ALSO LOVE WRESTLING
@guyincognito5706
@guyincognito5706 4 жыл бұрын
Jim Cornette just won’t let 1983 go.
@adamirishconundrum851
@adamirishconundrum851 Жыл бұрын
He won't be full circle until he strangles Vince Russo. WOOOOO
@mikewiley7529
@mikewiley7529 Жыл бұрын
Andre, far past his prime, was still part of the biggest match in history to this day. Hogan Andre at WM3 will be till the end of time the "biggest" match in history. Not a technical great match but never a bigger match
@MarkyCannoli
@MarkyCannoli 6 жыл бұрын
He uses the F word in all the wrong spots lol
@Supervillain725
@Supervillain725 6 жыл бұрын
You mean like, every other word?
@larryfloyd4993
@larryfloyd4993 7 жыл бұрын
they did the big show all wrong..they should have did what , was done with andre the giant... use him as a special attraction... keep him undefeated..... lose as a DQ... count out... tag team match... and then yrs later... lose to a super star.. ...
@TonyHookedonVanlife
@TonyHookedonVanlife 7 жыл бұрын
larry floyd that was WCW at that time - they could fuck up a wet dream.
@nevarstormdragon
@nevarstormdragon 7 жыл бұрын
tony93666 Could pretty sure they did that when they screwed there storylines with to much b.s.
@martyodonnell6829
@martyodonnell6829 5 жыл бұрын
When it comes down to it it was wcw and big show that destroyed big show by the time he came to wwe he was already 500 pounds and being joked right off bat as big slow wcw made his first storyline in wrestling against hulk Hogan for the title big show said it himself in his mind because of that he was a star before he started didnt have to do anything but show up why work at it when they handed to you
@michaelmacdonald880
@michaelmacdonald880 5 жыл бұрын
@@martyodonnell6829 except wwe would have turned him into a joke regardless... look at braun strowman, lashley, rusev. Anyone with size is legit jobbed out and never pushed in favor of midgets.
@Snarka09
@Snarka09 2 ай бұрын
@@michaelmacdonald880 They did it to Viscera, Kane, and Albert as well.
@drewbog1055
@drewbog1055 7 жыл бұрын
Actually Bad News did confront Andre
@ZBR_ProXP
@ZBR_ProXP 5 жыл бұрын
yea he completely got his facts mixed up there. rare for jim.
@drewbog1055
@drewbog1055 3 жыл бұрын
@Jonny Uh Bad News was a LEGIT bad ass and Andre knew this.
@drewbog1055
@drewbog1055 3 жыл бұрын
@Jonny Then why did Andre back down?
@chuynunez8927
@chuynunez8927 2 жыл бұрын
No comparison Andre was a true believable Giant in wrestling the Big Show turned out to be A SHOW!!!
@at1212b
@at1212b 3 жыл бұрын
Andre did grappling matches in France in the 60s. He learned how to really work. Big Show was just a goof off the street.
@mikepeterson764
@mikepeterson764 7 жыл бұрын
Even when i was younger in the 2000s, closed fist punches weren't allowed but they would be told not too, and get a five count to knock it off.
@rwdoyle0726
@rwdoyle0726 3 жыл бұрын
These clips really make me appreciate the great Brian last
@EXPLISITemcee
@EXPLISITemcee 7 жыл бұрын
Jimmy ...please talk about the TKO...ref discretion rule...before it was pin,submission,DQ,count out!
@alexvila1211
@alexvila1211 3 жыл бұрын
If Big Show would have premier in the 70’s he totally would’ve more as big or bigger.
@robwallace5490
@robwallace5490 Жыл бұрын
If they started around the same time Show imo would've been bigger, better talker and I think a better worker who would've been trained by better old school trainers
@davidgaver3786
@davidgaver3786 6 жыл бұрын
In Japan they still have the rule of no closed fist
@douglasarnold5310
@douglasarnold5310 5 жыл бұрын
Sid he forget about Ron Garvin knock out punch in the 80s
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