Jim Wallis - America's Original Sin: Racism and White Privilege

Westminster Town Hall Forum
February 4, 2016
Minneapolis, MN
Public theologian, political activist, author and commentator on ethics and public life. Founder and editor in chief of Sojourners magazine.

[@blkgodisfurious3258]

The Bible says when the children of Israel wake up and remember who they are in the land of their captivity they will hear my voice and remember. I come but for the lost sheep ONLY. God is coming to redeem a ppl but from who ? And what ppl need rescue from another? What ppl are being afflicted by another ? Those who lead into captivity must go into captivity.

[@blkgodisfurious3258]

@@jaylxxxi1908 XD means ? What your offended by truth I don’t get it .

[@mrstree6504]

@@blkgodisfurious3258 the truth hurts. Most of these people, if they can read only read what They are told. That is all the religions

[@dsuggs3989]

I am that lost sheep. Waiting on my savior

[@Brewed-mi1ue]

In the current season we find ourselves, it is too late in the evening (metaphorically speaking) to tip toe through the glaring historic FACTS. Like from the first slave ship, which was called, "Jesus of Lubeck", to this current moment, christianity shaped, guided and was the vanguard religion on which this nation was built, and which entered the Americas to subdue and conquer. But in spite of the narrative that was shaped over the centuries, there was nothing benevolent about this introduction. The historic facts of the destruction that followed cannot be erased. And since America is not comfortable facing her sins, there is currently another trend that is not widely talked about. Black Americans are leaving christianity, not the church, but Christianity wholesale in, droves. There is a reason for this, and this too is a very uncomfortable topic, and no one is engaging or confronting it because the common denominator is the religion of christianity. Uncomfortable topic? Yes. But the things we refused to confront and talk about, they don't go away. Because I didn't sweep the dust bunnies from underneath my bed when I was seven, they were there and out of sight. But at some point they start to float out into the open where everybody can see them. They may not be chickens, but America's dust bunnies are presenting themselves in very ugly ways these days. They have come home to roost. And the whole world is watching. At a meeting last year between a Chinese and American delegation in alaska, it was very evident. America was rebuked to her face by her Chinese counterparts🤡. The Chinese were watching. Watching social disorder, and watching the historic reasons behind it, and calling them on it. She (America🇺🇸) lost her moral perch and primacy, and China no longer recognizes or respect it. And that is not anecdotal evidence, it is not a one-off, and many other nations are blowing us off because they see it too. It's like blood in the water.🩸🅰️🅱️🅾️

[@blkgodisfurious3258]

💯 Facts

[@paghal11]

I agree. The Chinese however, given the cultural genocide they are committing in Xinjiang on the Uyghur Muslim minority, really have no leg to stand on. Kind of like criticizing your neighbor's lawn ornaments while you burn people at the stake in your own yard.

[@robjl619]

Romans 5:21 (KJV) That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.

[@earlinemitchell2124]

WILL THERE BE RACISM IN HEAVEN 😭🤔

[@aaronjones3284]

You can't connect humanistic evil to that of the GREAT CREATOR. He has allowed humanity to go their (our) own way cause none of humanity wills to follow the Great Creator they way He wants. Trust , He doesn't want robots, so all of humanity has traveled the DEMO god attitude. Yes from the white supremacists (Anglo Saxons) blacks and all other ethnic groups have been living the way of MAN ,NOT THAT OF OUR LOVING CREATOR. SAD TO SAY, WE WILL NEVER WIPE OUT EVILS IN THE SWAY OF PISS POOR HUMANITY. IF ANYTHING ,WE WILL COME CLOSE TO BLOWING HUMAN EXISTENCE off planet earth 🌎 if the Great Creator doesn't intervene.

[@vivianmott8085]

Heaven is a perfect place and cannot be compared to this evil world. Anything that is not pure, holy, and perfect cannot enter the gates of heaven.

[@earlinemitchell2124]

HALLELUJAH HALLELUJAH.. PRAISE GOD, THAT THE QUESTION THAT I ASKED WAS GIVEN BACK IN A SPIRITUAL MANNER, BY THE WAY THE QUESTION I ASKED WAS JUST A REMINDER THAT GOD CHILDREN ARE STILL OUT THERE IN THE WORLD 🌎 THANK YOU VIVIAN.. MAY GOD BLESS YOU AND YOURS, GOD IS TRULY SITTING ON HIS THRONE, AND FOR ME AND MY HOUSE I WILL ACKNOWLEDGE HIM WITH A HUMBLE HEART ❤

[@donzestell]

Not if the former things have passed away

[@anitawallace265]

No.

[@ktex4873]

Are you kidding me? We are the least racist nation.

[@blkgodisfurious3258]

The least racist nation? Lol said the child of a slave master .

[@paghal11]

No-one is kidding you. You have a misconception. Go back and listen to the talk, instead of just posting your gut reaction.

[@williamsanders8960]

Yes we were instrumental in the dismantling of the institution of slavery. Long after slavery was outlawed in America and the practice was destroyed slavery existed and still exists all over the world.

[@williamsanders8960]

Political jacks and the media continue to drive racism. The average American citizen could care less about race. You have to become indifferent about race to move forward. Or minds are bound until we do. Racial bias in the heart of a person of a different ethnicity doesn't matter to me because I KNOW they are not better than me.

[@blkgodisfurious3258]

@@williamsanders8960 Uh 🙄 ok 👍🏾 bud what ever you say lol . I think I woulda said the same thing if I’m just now finding out inm GODs enemy. Poor you huh 🤔.

[@stevemassengill9236]

Always judging Jim time to judge your self

[@lezetteclark5586]

Thank you sir for taking this task on...I wish there were more of you in America. Now keep in mind...this forum was held in 2016 and here we are in 2023 and what has changed?

[@leojames559]

He is explaining CRT

[@MrK67017]

19:09...Don't believe him? Read the book by Ira Katznelson " When Affirmative Action was White."

[@CleverMonkeyArt]

Part of the problem, as I see it, is in the title itself. "Original Sin" is a Judeo-Christian concept. It refers to the Fall of Adam and Eve in the Garden, as told in Genesis. Although many of the early settlers were motivated by their crackpot religious notions and justified their evil deeds by gymnastic rationalizing, the revolution that was started in 1776 and the government that was founded in 1789 were supposedly based on Enlightenment philosophy (granted, derived in part from the Judeo-Christian model), not Christianity. Nevertheless, America's White racist hegemony is traditionally characterized as a betrayal of Christian values, rather than of the sentiments expressed in the Declaration. Part of the problem, then, is the conflation of Christian and democratic values to begin with. That Christians have hijacked the American experiment is evident even today, as the riot over abortion rights demonstrates. This is true especially, though not exclusively, by the Evangelical churches. They see the American government as an enforcement arm of their sectarian agenda to convert everyone to their fear-based mumbo-jumbo. Even of they somehow "repent" and give up their race-based identity they still have no business trying to influence how our government makes decisions.

[@originalandrewmark]

thus necessitating the advent of the Nation of Islam!

[@ronsax4820]

"Not ready for that change...!" Trump and his like.

[@MrK67017]

9:53...KaaaaaBoom! From the founding no less.

[@MrK67017]

20:22....75% I believe it. For my core group of white friends, I know I"m the only black friend they have.

[@jakejonesband4917]

Word up! 2022!

[@StarChild.no1]

The fear is grounded in retribution for ugly, evil deeds - from an epigenetic perspective. And every other reason for fear, is just an excuse, due to perhaps not recognizing, no awareness of, not being able to pin point.. White generational trauma was because of the unrighteous act perpetrated upon other human beings, using fabricated justifications.. So it’s not simply a matter of more of them, less of us - But what it could reasonably imply - They can be just as terrible as we were/are, against us, having some moral justification to do so.. It’s a difficult loop to break because unhealthy perspectives could not have a healthy outlook on life that does not require shielding and isolating one’s self from possible harm.

[@leojames559]

Amen

[@dewittreeve4345]

The best such talk I’ve heard.

[@lioneljaftha3473]

Thank you Reverend. It will be a long uphill battle but the racist WILL be denied their evil based on HATRED. Merci beaucoup Sir.

[@stansargeant]

Thank you. I've had the privilege to travel throughout the world, and it has given me a unique perspective on the human condition. One of my trips to South Africa involved meeting a teenager from Wyoming, who had never met a person of colour in his life. The conversation was fascinating, and a friendship manifested. His father was furious that we were having a conversation and developing a relationship, but his kid left the plane with a new point of view. There is value in baby steps..

[@Joe-pc3hs]

Please dont refer to us as colored.

[@stansargeant]

@@Joe-pc3hs By that I mean that the kid never met anyone who was not of European descent. He had never been out of his community.

[@Joe-pc3hs]

@@stansargeant Thats not the point I made. The point being is if we keep calling ourselves colored, we cant act surprised to the phenomena of racial division. We're still propogating it, but with longer verbiage.