Toyota Rav4 Prime w/Motegi MR147 Lightweight Wheels & Firestone Destination A/T2 Tires

[@ericwiessinger4612]

I'm enjoying the wheels so far and looking forwars to using them in the snow. Can't wait to see the new roof rack once it's on!

[@JamesKlafehn]

Me too! Thanks for watching!

[@mikelock4350]

I'm getting the exact set up but on a 21 white xle. Love it, your needs and wants are the same as mine. Thanks for the vid👍🇺🇸

[@carholic-sz3qv]

The black on black looks awesome just like red and black accents

[@JamesKlafehn]

Thanks!

[@PenteFamGonzalez]

I have a white RAV4 and I’m getting the same wheels just bronze, I hope it looks good

[@Gary65437]

Very nice looking Rav4 with new wheels and tires. Much too nice to drive on salty NY winter roads. Too painful to even think about for such an awesome Prime.

[@giovannimendez7063]

Hi. You said you bought 5 rims and tires. How does the 5th wheel fit in the spear tire compartment?

[@robertolouth7468]

Beautiful rig pal! 👍🏻

[@JamesKlafehn]

Thanks 👍

[@traviseyster4128]

Jim, the tires and wheels look great! I've had those same tires on 2 different vehicles and loved them. I also couldn't believe how long they lasted. Hopefully you'll have the same results. Keep up the great videos!

[@JamesKlafehn]

Thank you so much for your positive comment and thank you for watching!

[@mikeogden5256]

Looks great 👍

[@laneh.5150]

your choice of tire/wheel definitely looks good!! with my 19 xle rav4 awd hybrid i've also noticed the speedometer is about 2 mph ahead of gps/radar actual speeds too.

[@toddpierce4091]

Hi Jim. I noticed a phone mounted beside your main infotainment screen. How is that mounted? Thank you.

[@superlight47]

They still look good and if they are lighter that good. Just build it the way you want that make you happy. Hope you and the family had a wonderful Thanksgiving.

[@JamesKlafehn]

Thanks! Yeah pretty low key Thanksgiving this year. Thanks for watching!

[@davehanna2600]

Looks awesome man, can’t wait to do mine

[@omarvalera5158]

Nice! Your RAV looks dope. I am getting the same wheels for my Renegade.

[@joethomas9634]

Hey James, thanks for the videos. What did you do for those red brake calipers? Did you take them in soemwhere to be painted or did you find covers for them?

[@kierrakallunki1879]

Are you going to add smoked out blinker lights on the windows?

[@PraiseYAyoupeople]

cold weather efficiency sounds about right 40% drop?

[@JamesKlafehn]

It is a pretty big drop. I think this car is supposed to have a heat pump too. 2.5 miles/kwh seems really low and its not even that cold yet.

[@InternetDude]

I am trying to decide right now, go for 17" or 18" wheels for winter. I have the XSE with 19" wheels but I am going to put on good winter tires. Either 235/60R18 or 235/65R17 like you have here. After having those for a while which is better, 17 or 18? I do like that the 17's are lighter weight.

[@JamesKlafehn]

Its been a while since I looked at weights but I love these. Great traction and no noise.

[@InternetDude]

@@JamesKlafehn Thanks, I'm pretty much convinced now that 17's are the way to go.

[@superlight47]

OEM sound quitter, but can depend on the mic settings.

[@JamesKlafehn]

I agree. I didnt change the settings on either segment. It was the same go pro in the same location.

[@wphubert]

Not to say this is the best that could be done, temps 25 to 35 deg F and I am running 2.8 miles per kWh. However that times 18.1 kWH is 50.68 miles. I am running heat, heated seats and heated steering wheel.

[@tincantiltman2440]

Congrat's, pretty wheels. I use the Hakka R3's in winter (225/60R18). They are quiet except for a "humming" noise between 35-45 mph. And yeah, speedo way off, mine show 5-6 miles less than real. Usually winter tires reduces fuel consuption (due to less rolling resistance). However, cold weather bad for efficiency, especially when doing alot of shorter trips.

[@JamesKlafehn]

You should've gone with a slightly taller tire to correct the speedo a bit. I wanted to go even taller than I did. I wanted to go to 245/65r17 but there is a small chance that tire would rub. The tires were also around $25 more per tire! What. year is your Rav? Is it a Prime? Have you driven in much snow? I feel like this Prime with the always available AWD and instant torque is going to be a beast in the snow.

[@tincantiltman2440]

@@JamesKlafehn Yes, Prime. Wanted taller tires, but COVID and delivery problems. Anyway, my son drives the car sometimes = speedo too low just might be a good thing. The car is okay in the snow, mostly due too weight I think. The AWD operates somewhat strange, at least when driving at snowy, hilly mountain roads. (But I have driven Subaru's 25 years so it might just be my own expectations/driving habits.)

[@JamesKlafehn]

@@tincantiltman2440 Haha very true! One thing nice about my old Tesla was that I could always check the speed via the app. No one else ever drove it really but if I had a son of driving age that would be a nice feature to have.

[@fvsfn]

So cool James. Can you please add the exact description of the 17´´ wheel you used (in particular the width of the rim and the offset ET value). I followed the link in the description but i end up on a « choose best fits » page where the Automator allows only 18´´ wheels on RAV4 Prime. Thanks.

[@JamesKlafehn]

17". I think it was a 38 offset.

[@hannahcoffman2029]

Looks so good! Do you think a 235/70/17 tire would fit with those wheels? Or is the 235/65/17 already close fit?

[@pobster88j94]

I got black rims put on at discount and was an awful experience. 13 trips to the tire place on a new rav 4. They broke the tps, put in a cheap aftermarket one that failed, broke the tire valve. Then the wheels vibrated at 60mph, and they couldn’t find a way to fix it. Oem rims were fine and car has 12k miles on it. I gave up after a while. That was a year ago but I still want black rims. Any idea why my experience was so awful? Was two different tire shops too. I ended up plastidipping the rims which looks fine but it wasn’t my first choice.

[@JohnnyKReviews]

Have to test the sound on the same road for better comparison. Also a dB reader from a iWatch can tell you accurately:)

[@Lennart_B]

How about peripheral weight? I.e. the rotational dynamic weight. Got an idea?

[@whoakhonga6780]

Awesome video. I like your set up. Any updates on the tires? Road noise, performance and wear? I have 17s also on my 2020 Rav4 XLE (KMC wheels with Pirelli AT3s). I love the look and performance of my tire on mine but road noise is terrible at 40-60mph. Im looking at Firestone Destination AT2 as my next tire if ever. Thank you again for the video.

[@cadreamin45]

Did you have to program your TPMS sensors? Or did they work out of the box?

[@chrisE815]

The shop programmed them he said. I *think* some new cars can remember two sets of sensors so you don't need to program after swapping back and forth.

[@rncondie]

Cold weather (mid 20’s) I have dropped from 44 DTE to 35 DTE 20% range drop is what I am experiencing.

[@mr2sr4me]

Are you happy going with 235/65r17 v 245/65r17 (considering both range and looks)? It's a pretty big weight difference (28 v 33lbs) for only about 0.4 extra inch diameter. With the Motegi wheels, are you concerned that they have a low weight capacity of 1280 lbs? The door frame sticker on my prime SE says the rear axel capacity is 2900lbs, so higher than the 1280lbs x 2 = 2560lbs capacity of the two rear wheels. Still happy with the range? I know it's hard to say with the cold weather...Thank you for making such informative videos and replying to comments. Greatly appreciated.

[@JamesKlafehn]

I love them! They look great and I get through anything (so far). I havent noticed a range loss other than just normal winter losses. Ill know more in a couple months.

[@bimmerspic]

Hello Jim! What route did you take with the TPMS? Did you get new ones or use the old ones? Having an issue currently with my tire shop not being able to use new TPMS sensors and registrating with the vehicle.

[@HYFR1]

Hey how does the spare fit in the trunk? Please tell me it's not sticking out.. I really want these haha

[@JohnnyKReviews]

Whats your MPG now? How is the noise and comfort with these new tires

[@JamesKlafehn]

IDK. I dont really use gas

[@JohnnyKReviews]

@@JamesKlafehn whats your energy utilization or consumption? Aside from that, how is the comfort and noise level. Thank you!

[@JamesKlafehn]

@@JohnnyKReviews No noticeable loss in range. I am saving 4-6ish lbs per wheel. No noise increase, as stated in the video.

[@mattandmelissamedia]

Man I'm so glad I stumbled on your channel a bit ago! I have the 2020 rav 4 hybrid xle and I love watching all the things and gadgets your adding to your car! May I ask what the pricing is like on those rims? Keep on with the content! Thank you for these videos!!

[@JamesKlafehn]

Thanks for watching!!! I bought the wheels from tire rack. I’d have to look it up but they were around $160 each. I bought 5. Not too bad. I like them a lot

[@mattandmelissamedia]

@@JamesKlafehn okay thanks! I appreciate it!

[@stevenm443]

@@JamesKlafehn Hello! I really like you videos. I have the Rav4 xle FWD 2021. Any reccommend wheel for my Rav4?

[@JamesKlafehn]

@@stevenm443 I love these wheels and tires. But everyone is different. Check tirerack. That's what I did.

[@michaellomayesva175]

How is your phone mounted to your dash? I have yet to find a mount I want to use. Thank you

[@JamesKlafehn]

I had it in a video somewhere. its a scosche magnetic mount. It double stick tapes to the dash. It works great!

[@zerokool-2058]

I’m thinking of going with 225’s on my rav4.. I don’t go off road daily, just some weekends and is more soft road.. also like you said the 245’s are heavier as well.

[@arribasn]

Tirerack seems to want to sell you the 18" versus 17" once you input vehicle type. No brake clearance issues with the 17"s?

[@JamesKlafehn]

Weird. I bought my 17s from them. It was no problem. No clearance issues.

[@cbinett]

I choose KO2 225/75/16 10 plys for my Rav4 hybrid. I know i will loose some mpg but have to drive a lot on gravel roads this summer and want to minimize the risk of a flat in the middle of the wood without cells signal. No more roof rack ?

[@JamesKlafehn]

This video is older than my roof rack adventures. The roof rack video playlist is here. kzbin.info/aero/PLuMPs5qUmnoRhiJaAQJQj-7KQN2RAcXRO

[@pacerman77]

Got a good deal on a set of 17" steelies off an Explorer, for my winter tires.Anyone installed wheels WITHOUT the TPMS? I know the dash light will be on.... Just wondering if bells and whistles go off without TPMS in the wheels. My, my what did we do without them 20 years ago :-) Oh we used a thing called a tire gauge :-) Thanks in advance. Keep those vids coming, James!!

[@JamesKlafehn]

Congrats! The only thing is that you will have a light on the dash. thats it

[@johncarey9005]

Great tire is Kumo Crugen HT51 245/65/17 . Great for off-road , low rolling resistance, low noise.

[@michaellomayesva175]

looks like a set of rims we are looking at getting from Discount Tires.

[@JamesKlafehn]

I liked them a lot. Go for it if you have the cash.

[@laurent-justinjustin6476]

How about the spare tire in the back ? Did you keep original or Fit the Motegi ? If it's the Motegi as spare tire in the back, can you close the lid where the spare tire is correctly or did you keep original spare tire of TOYOTA?

[@JamesKlafehn]

The new wheels wont fit in the spare tire well.

[@ericsheldon3754]

Are you still liking that wheel tire combo? I’m thinking of going that setup in gunmetal grey on my Silver 2021 le. Also are most shops willing to install a tire size up from the original?

[@JamesKlafehn]

Yeah I LOVE these wheels and tires. I highly recommend the Destination A/T2s. Great fuel economy, light weight, no noise and great traction.

[@jamesmccormick7917]

I'm thinking of getting this same wheel and tire but in bronze for my 2021 black hybrid xle do you have a update on your mpg

[@joetqm]

James please investigate the possibly of installing the 6.6 kw in the xse into the se. Please check it out. I am enjoying your videos very much, because next year I will be purchasing one. Thanks again Joe Torregrossa

[@JamesKlafehn]

Ive already worked on it. Its possible but the parts are around $4000. I dont make enough to justify that huge expense. I have a few Patreon supporters thankfully but its still not enough. Im working with roof racks and tires that cost $400-$1000. That is a lot cheaper than a Toyota charger

[@toshi7220]

Gash cant wait for my mom's to arrive in April!!

[@Koz6336]

How are they holding up? Thinking about getting a bronze set for my WRX.

[@JamesKlafehn]

I LOVE them!

[@bburbrink123]

This will be my new setup on my rav4 hybrid as soon as I sell my current setup of Method 503 w Continental 225/60/18.

[@JamesKlafehn]

I like the Method wheels but I couldnt do it, they are waaaaayy to heavy.

[@bburbrink123]

These are the light ones. Only weight 17.8 lbs

[@JamesKlafehn]

@@bburbrink123 Oh wow thats not bad. Thats quite good actually. They weigh less than mine. Mine are 20lbs.

[@bburbrink123]

Only problem with the method is that I have 18 x8 +42. The center caps won’t work. I should have went with 17x8. Smh

[@AveiroDan]

James, looks awesome! Did you consider doing the raised white letters on the outside?

[@JamesKlafehn]

I did but with everything being blacked out I figured that would stand out more than I wanted.

[@wphubert]

Jim, you are always full of surprises! What will you do with original runs an d tires?

[@JamesKlafehn]

Im keeping them around. Its a lease so If I trade it back in Ill need to give them the wheels and tires back. Thanks for watching!

[@natemargolis8956]

Any change in acceleration or MPG that you noticed with the new wheels?

[@JamesKlafehn]

Its winter here so I cant say. The low temps effect the car so it wouldnt be apples to apples

[@laurent-justinjustin6476]

Any place In canada to get those wheels and rims ? I looked for your Motegi and the 147 where only available here 18 inches. Also what Wheels and rims you use in summer ?

[@JamesKlafehn]

I’m going to use these year round. Do you have tire rack? That’s where I got mine

[@laurent-justinjustin6476]

@@JamesKlafehn Ok so your tires are good for summer and winter ? cool , well I checked Tirerack dont know if they ship to Canada will check thanks !

[@laurent-justinjustin6476]

@@JamesKlafehn Can you confirm your Tires are for winter and summer both ? you don't change between seasons ? I live in Montreal about same weather as in New York area

[@JamesKlafehn]

@@laurent-justinjustin6476 These tires are great for year round. Being north of me you might want winter tires and all season tires and swap twice a year. My Destination A/2s have been great in the snow.

[@branatz8214]

Hi, what phone holder are you using?

[@JamesKlafehn]

I have them in my amazon store. Link to the store is in my description. This is the actual clip. amzn.to/3chaI1P

[@riceburner4747]

Looks bad ass! I have a prius w/17"s on it but want to run summer/winter tires/wheels.. Thinkn about puttn black wheels? Look at LED interior lites. First thing I did to mine, & love it.

[@JamesKlafehn]

Thank you! I love it. I might get winter tires for my OEM set of wheels. IDK Ill see how these do in the winter. I suspect they are going to be really good and I wont need dedicated snows but we will see. There really isnt any videos out there about these tires so Im not sure how they will do in the snow. Ill have to make some. yes I need interior lights too. Only takes money right? lol :/

[@elviszhirzhan4459]

I do the same style of self car wash like you

[@ArbabAmjad453]

Any rubbing?

[@JamesKlafehn]

None

[@zerokool-2058]

I drive with music so if is a bit louder, it won’t bother me

[@Urgento22]

you should start an instagram page! would love to see more photos in detail on Instagram.

[@JamesKlafehn]

I have one! @jklafehn

[@dempsej]

black out all silver/chrome parts too :)

[@JamesKlafehn]

I already did that. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a6fUgIiFgbKdeKM

[@chrisE815]

JAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS.... So these are 17"x8" and 38+mm offset? Just trying to order some wheels before they all sell out. Don't want any interference on the tie rod, etc.

[@rncondie]

You buy more after market stuff than anyone else. I hope you are getting flyer miles off those credit cards. 😀

[@JamesKlafehn]

Nope. I pay cash or I dont buy it. If I dont have the money I wont spend the money on frivolous items like this. It helps that its stuff I can make videos about. Im not sure if there is much else I will be buying for a while. I am hoping to start taking some adventures.