Jimmy Page (DIY) 50's Style Mod

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Breja ToneWorks

Breja ToneWorks

Күн бұрын

Another Breja Tone Works (DIY) video - this time tackling the zillion wires involved in converting your Les Paul wiring into the "Jimmy Page" wiring and giving yourself 21 different pickup combinations in the process. This is a detailed step-by-step guide to doing this modification. Enjoy

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@Tyrell_Corp2019
@Tyrell_Corp2019 2 ай бұрын
This video is 10 years old and yet still the best one on this topic. Thank you. 🙏
@BrejaToneWorks
@BrejaToneWorks 9 жыл бұрын
For those who asked - the pickup wire codes for this mod are based on the Seymour Duncan colors.
@flashy5150
@flashy5150 8 жыл бұрын
+Breja ToneWorks Hey Breja. I understand that Jimmy's #1 LP only had one push/pull on it that changes the pickups to "out of phase". From what I've seen in a video of Jimmy's actual guitar, it's the bridge tone that controls this. Do you know how to do this with 3x 500k pots and 1x 500k push/pull ? If you have the guitar on your lap in playing position, it's the bottom right switch -- I would presume that it's the bridge tone. That's all I need to do is switch the pickups out of phase.
@BrejaToneWorks
@BrejaToneWorks 8 жыл бұрын
+flashy5150 Hey - You might be right on the JP stuff. I personally don't have this mod on any of my guitars and when I have done it for people, it's as I've shown here. If all he did was create a P/P for Out of Phase, then all you'd need to do is search HB Phase Mod and apply that to the appropriate pot. It's a simple 'X' wiring and if you can't find one - email me at BrejaToneWorks@gmail.com and I can send one to ya. Don
@flashy5150
@flashy5150 8 жыл бұрын
Breja ToneWorks Thanks Don, I will look it up.Back in 1970 - '73, Jimmy never really used any kind of mod. I think he really did this because of so many solid state and high gain amps that were being released in the '80's, and to get that sharp tone, he needed to make the pickups do the work, since the amps couldn't. Also, push/pulls were never available until the '80's or maybe even the '90's. Jimmy really did this while playing with "The Firm" in the '80's. He did some really whacky stuff back then -- I didn't like it -- please, don't tell Jimmy lol. Jimmy even said, he barely uses that 21 tone mod, only in the studio, when he was looking for a certain tone. So "no Led Zeppelin was ever created with a push/pull switch". There is a video that only shows the interviewer pulling up that lower right push/pull switch and Jimmy did it too, and it was the same switch to change it "out of phase". "Out of Phase", as we all know, makes the two pickups fight each other, creating a very thin but compressed sound. This is the only sound I would need to play Led Zeppelin. The "Whole Lotta Love" solo is a prime example of why it was created. Back then, Jimmy had to use full humbuckers for the rhythm and change to his supro or something to get the thin tone. With the out of phase switch, he can just pull it and the bass will just drop out. Sorry I wrote so much Don, but there are things that need to be clarified. Cheers
@flashy5150
@flashy5150 8 жыл бұрын
Breja ToneWorks Hey Don. I've found a HB Phase Mod schematic. Since I am only changing one pot to do the phase reversal, can I use one of the tone pots, as opposed to a volume pot, or does it have to be a volume pot ? Jimmy's seems to be the farthest pot away from his bridge, which is the bridge tone. He probably did it this way to prevent knocking it with his picking hand by accident. Thanks
@elsariguella
@elsariguella 7 жыл бұрын
Hi, this scheme is different from the one that appears in www.amazon.com/920D-Custom-Shop-Harness-Switchcraft/dp/B00VMS2XIQ I install The circuit that appears in the schematic and now the guitar only makes annoying noises, what do you advise me?
@FreddysFrets
@FreddysFrets 10 жыл бұрын
Nice job! I would just like to warn people....if you are only looking at the full wiring diagram to wire it all up intsead of following the video step by step be sure to not ground the black wire from the neck pickup to the bridge volume pot. In the diagram it looks like it's grounded but it's actually just passing over top of a star ground point.
@rogerpodacter6241
@rogerpodacter6241 8 жыл бұрын
Hi Don, I just finished wiring up my guitar for JP 21 tones following your video. Everything works as should, first try. Your instructions were clear and easy to follow - I appreciate your time and work! Thank you!
@MarkMerrick
@MarkMerrick 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. This is the third Jimmy Page wiring instructional I have tried and the first to work!
@u.s.a.198
@u.s.a.198 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! To think back to Jimmy Pages time so many years ago... he was a genius. This is a very complex concept. Truly a pioneer and grand experimenter!
@bryanwilliams3665
@bryanwilliams3665 Жыл бұрын
Steve Hoyland did this mod on Jimmy Pages seldom used #2 Les Paul in 1985. It isn't relevant to the Zeppelin years . His guitar was 'standard wired'in Led Zeppelin. JImmy Pages 'Right Hand Man' and tech ( Clive Coulson) was a good customer of my Guitar Shop in New Zealand.. I make and Demo Page pickups on my channel,if you're interested in this.
@Rick_Cleland
@Rick_Cleland Жыл бұрын
​@@bryanwilliams3665 👀
@Thomasplaysguitar
@Thomasplaysguitar 3 жыл бұрын
Followed your video step by step and the schematic works like a charm. You broke it down and made it really easy to follow and get it done. Thanks! My Epi LP is now a true tone machine!
@TANKE777
@TANKE777 4 жыл бұрын
Just finished the circuit! works to perfection, I just wanted to thank you for putting the time and providing this information.
@SD-nj1cy
@SD-nj1cy 3 жыл бұрын
did you follow the illustration or narrative? They dont match starting at 8:43
@TANKE777
@TANKE777 3 жыл бұрын
@@SD-nj1cy Follow the illustration, I think the narrator misspoke in that minute. If you look at the start of the video the whole circuit is displayed, that is the correct circuit. Hope it helps, any doubt give me a shout.
@SD-nj1cy
@SD-nj1cy 3 жыл бұрын
@@TANKE777 THANKS!!!!
@rolteus3706
@rolteus3706 7 жыл бұрын
I did it myself. pay attention to one wire at a time it's pretty simple. just identify your wire, find where it goes and solder it up then move on to the next wire. this is the greatest wiring scheme ever I love the phase shift with coil cut on the neck pickup the most. It allows you to choose which coil you want when your use the coil cut on the neck pickup. I used the serial-broadbucker option for the bridge volume switch that makes all four coils of both pickups serialized into one large pickup. The sound is huge and you can absolutely recognize jimi's tones when you do this on a les paul with good pickups. I love this wiring scheme so much I did the neck portion of it on my superstrat and left the bridge side in typical configuration. cherry pick this diagram for your favorite tones.
@harryhellyer1905
@harryhellyer1905 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Fantastic video, thanks for all your hard work: I just used it to upgrade my 'Vintage' LP Paradise that I bought second hand. I got the kit from Allparts which was good (apart from the 3 way switch being to short!)- but the wiring diagram was difficult to fathom. So I just spent the best part of the weekend methodically wiring up using your video. And now its all done: tested it out, and (after 5 mins general sadness as no noise was coming out - until I realised I had to turn the volume pots up), it sounds brilliant - literally. So thanks again for your efforts very much appreciated: You are a Dog amongst Nem or something like that.
@harryhellyer1905
@harryhellyer1905 7 жыл бұрын
as an update: Allparts have offered to send me out a long thread nut for the 3 way switch - which is nice! meanwhile the paradise is sounding and playing fabulous
@jakubnoino2597
@jakubnoino2597 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't have done it without this video. Many thanks!
@alovax
@alovax 6 ай бұрын
great job!!!!! your wiring works fantastic! grazie 1000!!!
@DanielFavio
@DanielFavio 3 жыл бұрын
I followed the directions exactly and it totally worked!!!! I’ll post a video of what it sounds like 👍 with Filtertrons and my Epiphone Wildkat.
@Sunke89
@Sunke89 10 ай бұрын
Followed everything and works really good, Thank you!
@weeman6932
@weeman6932 9 жыл бұрын
I just have to say thank you so much for your videos. they really have helped mu understand the inner workings of my guitars and have now been able to fix two guitars which i couldn't afford to take into my music shop. saved me lots of money!!! Thank you
@BrejaToneWorks
@BrejaToneWorks 9 жыл бұрын
Hey Brogan... I appreciate it. I remember the feeling of not having the money to do what I wanted with guitars which is why I do these videos - to help people out. Best of luck.
@TheTricov
@TheTricov 3 жыл бұрын
Thank You! It worked great. This was my first time wiring a guitar. It took Quite a bit of time, but so worth it!
@aspguitars10
@aspguitars10 Жыл бұрын
Hi! from UK. I've just found your Video on the Jimmy Page Wiring. Very informative. I was wondering if you could do this with CTS Push/Push Pots with Seymour Duncan Pickups. I realise that this is an old Video, but was hoping that you may have had this question before!
@jameshendee4489
@jameshendee4489 5 жыл бұрын
12-11-18 - Between 8:12 and 9:14 in your video (wiring review section), there are some major errors in the narrative and the illustrations you are trying to use under the narrative. The narrative and the illustrations used during the narrative here do not match at all. Starting at 8:03 in the video (reviewing the pickup wirings), the narrative does not match the illustrations. - 8:03 - illustration changes to the bridge pickup wiring page - Narrative at 8:10: "...if we start with the neck pickup..." and starts explaining the neck pickup's wiring >> but uses the bridge pickup wiring illustration - 8:43 - illustration changes to the neck pickup wiring page - Narrative at 8:44 "...Same ting if we look at the neck pickup to ensure we have the right wiring..." - but the narrative starts to discuss the bridge pickup wiring... yet uses the neck pickup illustration in the video under this narrative... continues incorrect narrative/illustration until 9:14 - 9:15, "...and there you have it"... concludes the "review", illustration changes to the completed wiring diagram.
@osebik
@osebik 5 жыл бұрын
Perfect walkthrough, thanks a lot, works well!
@seankelly6139
@seankelly6139 3 жыл бұрын
How did you get this to work. I wired it exactly how he described it in the drawing and the bridge volume and split coil doesn't work. The neck volume works with no split coil. Did you attach the wires from the switch to the lugs on the volume switches or where he has them. I have them where he does and it doesn't work
@osebik
@osebik 3 жыл бұрын
@@seankelly6139 if you are new to this kind of stuff as I was when I tried it, any number of thing might be wrong. It took me a while to get it right and had such problems as well. Just double check everything and go slow is all I can say. Checking soldering points to see if they are connected is where I would start. Good luck mate.
@seankelly6139
@seankelly6139 3 жыл бұрын
I have been doing this for a few years now and I have everything attached properly exactly how he has it described. You have everything attached properly where he described it and it works great for you?
@osebik
@osebik 3 жыл бұрын
@@seankelly6139 yep
@bryanwilliams3665
@bryanwilliams3665 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic mod to get the most out of your guitar .Great video too! This mod was done for Jimmy circa 1985( 'The Firm' era) by Steve Hoyland on Jimmy's seldom used #2 Les Paul...It wasn't anything to do with Led Zeppelin . Those chasing that Les Paul sound,I demo those Pickups on my channel . My knowledge came from Clive Coulson( Jimmy's Right Hand Man) Clive was a customer of my Guitar Shop in New Zealand.
@paddyhaig101
@paddyhaig101 9 жыл бұрын
Could you possibly clarify for a number of us. What wiring color convention you are using? Gibson? Dimarzio? EMG? Seymour Duncan? Or any of a number of others. As it is, by stating at the beginning of the tutorial that the wiring is being done for a Les Paul, the assumption would be it's a Gibson wiring schema. Using four conductor Gibson pickups.Alll the different brand pickups seem to use different colors in respects to the termination of the wires on the pickups. For example Gibson Aftermarket pickups use: This wiring convention Red = North Start White = North Finish Green = South Finish Black = South Start Bare wire = Ground Dimarzio pickups use: This wiring convention Red = North Start Black = North Finish White = South Finish Green = South Start Bare wire = Ground Seymour Duncan pickups use: This wiring convention Black = North Start White = North Finish Red = South Finish Green = South Start Bare wire = Ground As you can see, all the big names use different wiring conventions on their pickups. I have a Gibson SG and paid to have the Gibson 1957 humbuckers rewired with four conductor wiring using the Gibson standard color scheme. Also because it's an SG the wiring cavity is pretty shallow, so much so, that I cannot put blobs of solder on the backs of my dpdt push/push switches. So I have to be clever in how my earth wiring is run. Everything that requires an earth has gotten an earth, just a little differnt than your presentation/tutorial. Anyway, so far, using the Gibson wiring color scheme it isn't working. So I am now going to try the Seymour Duncan color scheme. Wish me luck :-)
@janfranciscoramirez4733
@janfranciscoramirez4733 5 жыл бұрын
This wiring diagram... it’s really works!!!!!!!!! Thank you so much!!!!! 🙏
@mC_DiDiDiDiDi
@mC_DiDiDiDiDi 4 жыл бұрын
I don't get it, I have looked over my wiring 3 times, and it fits the video. I'm using Gibson 57 classics in both bridge and neck, I realise the video is based on Seymour Duncan and switched as follows: Seymour D black is hot (North start) , Gibson red is hot. Seymour D white is north finish, same for Gibson. Seymour D red is south finish, Gibson green is south finish. Seymour D green is south start, Gibson black is south start. Bare shield is the same for both. I get no sound, only noise when I touch the selector switch.
@brettshegogue
@brettshegogue 3 жыл бұрын
@@mC_DiDiDiDiDi that sounds like a bad ground somewhere. Did you figure this out?
@mortenskjerven7951
@mortenskjerven7951 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a great scheme and a superb video. I have built it into my SG Special, with Bourns push pull pots.
@chrisgellion307
@chrisgellion307 6 жыл бұрын
Followed instructions and diagram,, and it works 100% thank you for this brilliant video.. a happy Les Paul owner I am :)
@kingofspades8856
@kingofspades8856 3 жыл бұрын
Did you use CTS or Bourns pots? I'm already trying to wire it up and think if there are any slight differences between them in respect to lugs order (a1,b1,l1, etc.)? I decided to use Bourns pots and the schematics in internet show different set of lugs are interconnected. I don't know if he mentioned pots of which company he uses in this wiring.
@andrekovacs7954
@andrekovacs7954 6 жыл бұрын
Great video Don! I did an easier version of this mod to my SG a couple of years ago, but I used Seymour Duncan's Triple Shot rings to ease the pickup selection, leaving only 2 push-pull switches for phase and series/parallel on volumes and standard tone knobs. Cheers, Andre
@brianknickerbocker8518
@brianknickerbocker8518 7 жыл бұрын
I'm dizzy, now how again will this get me out of trouble with the wife. I love your videos getting ready to wire up my SG now just reg vintage, I only watch this because I enjoy and had to see everything the J P wiring could do.Thanks
@kidsyoutube5537
@kidsyoutube5537 6 жыл бұрын
Worked great! Was a bit daunting for my first real soldering project, but this video really helped me be successful. Only way it would be better is if you showed the actual soldering!
@mariobarrela
@mariobarrela 9 жыл бұрын
Hello Don Thanks a lot for your fast answer and advice. I will try the treble bleed. Thanks Mário
@Nigel-ry1po
@Nigel-ry1po 3 ай бұрын
the 'tone master' is Tony Iommi listen to BLACK SABBATHs albums after Master of Reality ! I have never heard those tones done since ! Iommi is the tone master
@paintbox48
@paintbox48 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid, but there are a couple of problems. As well as the situation of the black wire from the neck pickup appearing to be ground on the B-vol - (it should just go to the B-vol switch) - from around 8.05 in the commentary you have the pickup names and controls mixed up. Also there seems to be two ground wires from the switch to B-vol (only one required). I hope this helps clarify any confusion.
@Rick_Cleland
@Rick_Cleland 6 жыл бұрын
Why? Why Jimmy? WHY!??
@bryanwilliams3665
@bryanwilliams3665 Жыл бұрын
It was an experiment. Done during "The Firm" era circa 1985 on Jimmy's #2 Les Paul by Steve Hoyland Has nothing to do with the iconic Zeppelin Years... that guitar was standard wiring.The Zeppelin pickups are on my channel.
@Powow0061
@Powow0061 6 жыл бұрын
So this might be a dumb question, but when you solder the wires to the “top” of the pots, are you talking about the top of the A1,2,3 and b1,2,3 block? If that makes any sense.
@mikestewart3859
@mikestewart3859 10 жыл бұрын
Wiring diagram is top shelf. You went above and beyond and people appreciate that. One question, is it safe for me to assume you used Gibson Pickups for your rewire? Reason I ask is each manufacturer uses a different color code system for their hookup wires (I'm sure that isn't breaking news to you) and I will need to convert the colors to suit my pickups. Thanks for your time and your awesome video.
@BrejaToneWorks
@BrejaToneWorks 10 жыл бұрын
Mike... Actually mine uses the Seymour Duncan HB pickup wire colors. I believe it goes like this with these two companies: SD Slug Poles: Black Start (Hot) / White (Finish) Screw Poles: Red Finish / Green Start Gibson Slug Poles: Red Start (Hot) / White Finish Screw Poles: Green Finish / Black Start I appreciate the comments and thanks for watching. Best of luck.
@acstandifer
@acstandifer 10 жыл бұрын
Breja ToneWorks Did you have any switch positions were there was no sound or "dead spots"? Will the guitar run series mode only when in the neck position or will it function in the middle and neck positions in series as well?
@chriswalz8990
@chriswalz8990 4 жыл бұрын
Didn't work on my LP. I've played this video and checked and re-checked the wiring 7 times now. I even set it down and walked away for 3 hours and came back to it refreshed. Nothing! Not a sound. Perhaps if I sleep on it and attack it again in the morning? Very frustrated. I had bought a pre-wired Jimmy Page harness online last year. It didn't work out of the box. I looked over their diagram and noticed they missed 2 jumper wires. It sounded great after that, but I didn't like that it would cut out when I had it on the bridge pickup and pulled the tone knob. So I wanted to give this one a shot. Wish it would have worked.
@abmbarry
@abmbarry 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your superb tutorial. I am about to put Suhr Thornbuckers into a Epiphone LP Custom Pro. I think the Suhr has the same wiring code as Seymour Duncan's, ... I'll have to measure them anyway to confirm.
@mafw5572
@mafw5572 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the mod, i will try something similar on a strat
@VH5150Zone
@VH5150Zone 10 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Thanks so much.
@raxxtango
@raxxtango 8 жыл бұрын
Excellent video tutorial
@sdothodg
@sdothodg 9 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on the Jimmy Page No. 2 Les Paul? It has the same wiring plus two more DPDT switches hidden under the pickguard.
@BrejaToneWorks
@BrejaToneWorks 9 жыл бұрын
Hey Sean... Let me look it up and see what I can do. Don
@lorenzowynberg
@lorenzowynberg 2 жыл бұрын
@@BrejaToneWorks yes please !!!
@Efrumful
@Efrumful 9 жыл бұрын
Pretty awesome diagram, thank you for making this, it really helped me out! I am having a bit of trouble as to my Bridge Tone isn't varying in tone and the Neck Volume just cuts the p/up altogether. Any suggestions Breja ToneWorks?
@BrejaToneWorks
@BrejaToneWorks 9 жыл бұрын
Efrumful email me directly at BrejaToneWorks@gmail.com and I can shoot you a copy of the instructions. My first suggestion is to go back over them step by step to make sure you're in good shape. After that - we'll have to take on other potential troubleshooting. Don
@meriadocbrandybuck2868
@meriadocbrandybuck2868 2 жыл бұрын
Wondering if I could have a little further clarification regarding the diagram- I am using Bourne's pots and I am wondering as far as the numbering, are the 6 vertical terminals numbered as if I am holding the pot with shaft facing down, or are they numbered as if the shaft is facing up? Same with the 3 horizontal lugs too I suppose, as which way the shaft is facing would affect that as well.
@giangavinopiras9211
@giangavinopiras9211 2 жыл бұрын
Sarà una bella avventura saldare tutti questi fili già ne uscirò mezzo esaurito dato e la prima volta che lo faccio uhahahahaha complimenti per la spiegazione molto acurata
@apache1607
@apache1607 Жыл бұрын
Following the connections of the diagram illustrated in the video there is one disadvantage: With the series/parallel switch set to series and the 3-way pickup selector in the neck position, the guitar will be silent.
@MrMaton01
@MrMaton01 7 жыл бұрын
So what's correct? The diagram or what you're saying? A lot of times they don't match.
@MosheAlvarez
@MosheAlvarez 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Don, do you have a wiring schematic like this where instead of a series switch, you have a blower switch where everything is bypassed and only the bridge pickup is on by itself straight out?
@micheletobia1993
@micheletobia1993 4 жыл бұрын
Hi! Thank you for this video! Could i ask you why at 4:30 you connect permanently the black and the green wire of the bridge pickup? The Black is the North coil start and the green is the south coil start, of you connect them the whole pickup will be shorted and silent. am I correct? Thank you! Mike
@micheletobia1993
@micheletobia1993 4 жыл бұрын
I understood, it is reversed with respect to the neck.
@robbenfelix
@robbenfelix Жыл бұрын
So, wait... What happens with the pup selector in the bridge position and only the bridge tone push-pull engaged?
@kaufenalles6679
@kaufenalles6679 6 жыл бұрын
Are the combinations @11:42 and beyond correct ? Why would both pickups be on if the selector switch is set to the Neck position ?
@tommybowling6234
@tommybowling6234 3 жыл бұрын
I think it runs them both in a series. I'm about to attempt this myself but the diagram that came with my kit is wired a little different. I'm really not to sure which I'm going to try.
@bsbozzy
@bsbozzy 6 жыл бұрын
There are 2 wires from the selector switch to the bridge ground, @2:07 and @3:37, are both needed?
@elsariguella
@elsariguella 5 жыл бұрын
hey friend!!! Did you take the two connections to ground or only one ???
@Nigel-ry1po
@Nigel-ry1po 3 ай бұрын
I am a professional musician Tony Iommi has the same 'tone' It is so much more cumbersome trying to get this 'magic' tone on Gibson style 'double coils' It just makes it unnecessarily difficult don't think I know ? Black Sabbath's first two albums ? done on a Gibson SG with single coil P90s ok I'll tell ya ! 'neck & bridge's OUT OF PHASE you're welcome NIGEL here, rock on
@ITISolutions
@ITISolutions Жыл бұрын
Hi. I don't know if you'll see this, but can someone clarify a point for me?? If the pot is in it's "normal" position (pushed in, knob closest to the body), are A1/A2 and B1/B2 engaged or A2/A3 and B2/B3 engaged according to this wiring scheme? Thank You!
@MOD_Guitar
@MOD_Guitar 7 жыл бұрын
One item that is good to mention is to use linear taper push/pull pots for volume and audio (logrithmic) taper pots for tone. None few times I have used the wrong type (linear) for the tone pots and had little to no sweep in the adjustment of the tone. It was mud at 10 then from about 8 to 1 wide open. I hope this helps!
@michasz4297
@michasz4297 3 жыл бұрын
Hi. I'd like to ask if could it be possible to change this wiring a little bit? I have a 2-conductor vintage SD Dimarzio in bridge and I'd like to pair it with a 4-conductor humbucker in the neck position using this diagram. I wonder if it can work that way. I understand that it may trim down the 21 tone pallete but it doesn't matter as long as the whole modified wiring works fine.
@soundsfromAken
@soundsfromAken 2 жыл бұрын
It is better to follow Breja’s words or simply the images? I read in some comments that at a certain point it becomes quite confusing..🥲
@contact1araya
@contact1araya 5 жыл бұрын
I want to mod my HSH with a five way switch to include a neck and bridge together option, can these series/parallel and out of phase mods be applied to that moded HSH?
@stevemeadows
@stevemeadows 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, very helpful! Is there a reason for having 2 wires going to the ground lug of the 3 way switch? Unless I'm mistaken, they both go to ground on the bridge volume pot.
@francoprs
@francoprs 9 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to use most of this wiring on a 1 volume, two tones with pull switches and a 3 way toggle switch? Basically the same but only 1 volume pot. Thanks.
@fulesmackofule
@fulesmackofule 4 жыл бұрын
In the full wiring diagram there are two ground wires leaving the switch, one towards the bridge volume and the other to the bridge tone pot. However, it is not needed later in the steps towards the tone pot. What is the right one? Assuming it's not needed, only once to the bridge volume pot, also after checking the two pics, that wire doesn't go to bridge tone, but bridge volume, basically twice, as the bridge volume grounds the bridge tone with the same curve. Please confirm.
@seankelly6139
@seankelly6139 4 жыл бұрын
Do you have a wiring diagram for this but 3 volume and 1 tone for a 1958 Les Paul black beauty. Or if anyone has something on one. Thanks.
@averyaaron1
@averyaaron1 3 жыл бұрын
I am about to attempt this. I've ordered everything i need except, i don't know which capacitors i need.... Help! What are the right capacitors. Iv got SD humbuckers 2 A500k push pulls, 2B500k push pull. A 3 wat toggle, output...... Just need to know the right capacitor.
@tootory9506
@tootory9506 3 жыл бұрын
@@JYZProductions Great info thank you Dash what's a heat sink look like where can you get one? Thanks again
@GibsonLesPaul2273
@GibsonLesPaul2273 2 жыл бұрын
What a great video. I have a question, im using Bourns pots, are the A1 and B1 lugs at the base of the pot or the shaft end of the pot?
@lepbeer
@lepbeer 2 жыл бұрын
Hey there. I just noticed my seymour duncan '59 has only two wires (the other pickup is a JB with four wires). If i use a regular pot on the neck volume, will everything else work fine? (i think it'll work but im not sure about it). thanks!
@Voodoo.77
@Voodoo.77 5 жыл бұрын
This diagram doesn’t match up to the one on Seymour Duncan website for the Jimmy Page wiring. Which is correct?
@goodboyringo9716
@goodboyringo9716 5 жыл бұрын
I have two les pauls , one has the push /pull on the volume the other has the push pull on the tone . Can you please help me out with that , I'm a little confused about this.
@strangeuniverse1199
@strangeuniverse1199 Жыл бұрын
I think this is the best guide for the J.P. 21 tone wiring on the internet. I bought some 21 gauge vintage cloth wire for the job but that stuff did not work. What works well is that thin black wire that connects to AC chargers and voltage adapters. I lined the control cavity with self stick copper foil bought on Ebay. This wiring job took 3 days and I only made a couple small mistakes, easily corrected. I did not need to follow the grounding instructions exactly as shown, my guitar has a slightly different grounding scheme that I used. I put paint on the 4 different push pull pots and put scotch tape with marks on the guitars body indicating where each push pull pot was located. I needed a flashlight for close inspection inside the control cavity after soldering. Good quality solder should be used for the job. It might be difficult to ground the pots with cheap solder. I heard Jimmy Page did not use this particular 21 tone setup in Led Zeppelin. This wiring schematic first came out in 1985 from what I heard. While in Zeppelin I heard Page had a hidden switch underneath the pick guard of his Les Paul, so the guitar he used in concert did not have a stock pick up arrangement. This wiring job takes some skill, I would not say it's easy at all since it took me 3 partial days to complete. If you are up to the challenge then I recommend doing it.
@joesimon2018
@joesimon2018 4 жыл бұрын
I've done these on a few guitars. I always thought it was a nothing-to-lose mod since the guitar isself isn't altered at all. All you are doing is replacing 4 pots and rewiring things a bit. You can always return the guitar to stock....but why bother? With all the pots "down" it's a standard Les Paul. What do you gain? Maybe some lower gain clean tones by splitting the pots. Also you get a lot of interesting "half cocked wah" sounds from the phase inversions. I think all Les Pauls should,be,wired this way from the factory. It only costs Gibson a few extra pennies for different pots. Instead they offer stupid clown color guitars.
@mortenskjerven7951
@mortenskjerven7951 7 жыл бұрын
I'm just wondering. When the pot is pushed down (normal), is A2/B2 connected to A1/B1 or A3/B3.
@seankelly6139
@seankelly6139 3 жыл бұрын
I wired everything exactly how you showed it. Wiring the switch to those spots doesn't do anything but make the pickups sound the same as well as stopping the volume knobs from working. Do you know where I could have gone wrong in this
@elsariguella
@elsariguella 5 жыл бұрын
It is normal that it emits so much noise in different positions???
@bandit7498
@bandit7498 6 жыл бұрын
I had my Bourns wired modern, decided I wanted to go 50s. Tried it last night, followed this exactly, and got no sound in the end. I've wired plenty of pickups and have a lot of experience doing so. But I'm not sure why I go too sound. My pickups have the same color scheme as Seymour Duncan. Is it safe to assume your colors are the same?
@spearmintt1342
@spearmintt1342 4 жыл бұрын
Old as hell video but on Bridge Volume and Neck Tone engaged, would you not have the south coil (screws) of the bridge? Also, on all four engaged, would you not have the north coil (studs) of the bridge engaged?
@joelovatt754
@joelovatt754 6 жыл бұрын
Okay so I followed the video step by step and when ive plugged the guitar in only the neck pickup works, if i pull the neck tone pot the neck can be heard in all three positions of the pickup selector but at a reduced volume. If i play through overdrive and switch to the bridge pickup there is an extremely faint signal come through but i can't make out if its the bridge or neck that I'm hearing. Any ideas as to what could be the issue ?
@dustindinsmore5448
@dustindinsmore5448 4 жыл бұрын
Ever figure it out? I just did the mod and I'm having the same problem.
@joelovatt754
@joelovatt754 4 жыл бұрын
@@dustindinsmore5448 I took it to my local technician and he said the wiring was perfect, turned out I had been sent a faulty bridge pickup so I got a replacement and stuck that in and everything was fine
@dustindinsmore5448
@dustindinsmore5448 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad that worked out for you but I just got brand new pickups and they should be working just fine. 😭
@joelovatt754
@joelovatt754 4 жыл бұрын
@@dustindinsmore5448 Mine were also brand new, I just received a dud so I messaged the seller and got a replacement sent out. Check the pickups with a multimeter if you can
@dustindinsmore5448
@dustindinsmore5448 4 жыл бұрын
I will when I can. 😰
@stefftrim
@stefftrim 8 жыл бұрын
Hi Breja Toneworks. I have a guitar been build to me last year - a tribute guitar made after single cut specs. I have 3 humbuckers, a 5 way switch and a kill switch ( actually it is a 3 way being used as kill switch) I´d love to really make a "tonemashine" out of this guitar. It is my boyhood dream. Would the Jimmy Page wiring be applicable to 3 pups? I still only have 2 vol and 2 tone pots? the way the 5 way is connected now is: Bridge; bridge- middle; middle; middle - neck; neck.I hope you and maybe others might find my question interesting enough to grab the challange sort of speak.Regards
@Em_Dee_Aitch
@Em_Dee_Aitch Жыл бұрын
What if I just want to use my volumes to split the neck each way, and the tones to split the bridge each way? I
@TheHahayanyan
@TheHahayanyan 7 жыл бұрын
thx you for this video, i done it last week, it works and prefer it over the non 50 style jimmy page wiring which i found at SD, and wonder, it seem to be only one master volume ,wonder is it something i can have both 50 style and both volume control for the bridge and the neck ? thx so much
@spacegoat77
@spacegoat77 6 жыл бұрын
Hey awesome video. Like a few others having a few problems getting it to work. Any chance of getting the PDF of the instructions?
@anthonyviana6141
@anthonyviana6141 9 жыл бұрын
Seeing as manufacturers make their pickups all differently. Which brand of pickups is this specific to? Gibson, Seymour Duncan, DiMarzio? I'm just unsure about the north start/finish and south start/finish and if that would affect the wiring. Cheers in advance if you get a chance to answer 👍🏼😁
@-thirteen
@-thirteen 8 жыл бұрын
thanks much for this video. I'm getting close to ripping the pcb wiring out of my 2013 Standard and either doing this or trying to do a 50's style + Peter Green mod. I think this uses regular 50's wiring but replacing the Neck tone with a push/pull to Put the neck and bridge pickups out of phase. I don;t know, however, if this would be series or parallel or how exactly to wire it up.....Have you ever done one of these? The JP is always what I've wanted for all the combos but I really can;t see myself using all these options...... Thanks again.. great info
@nylesreynolds6035
@nylesreynolds6035 8 жыл бұрын
Hi I am going to be doing this mod next week when the rest of the parts arrive but I have a quick question. I will be using some NOS Vintage Jensen Caps but I noticed these caps have one end painted red (+)?and one black (-)?. So which ends would go to which lugs? Will I be able to use these caps? Thanks. Love your videos. I have learned so much from them.
@BrejaToneWorks
@BrejaToneWorks 8 жыл бұрын
+Nyles Reynolds Hey Nyles... I'm not sure what caps exactly you have but guitar caps don't have polarity meaning it won't matter positive or negative. Email me a pic of you caps at: brejatoneworks@gmail.com and I'll try to help ya.
@raxxtango
@raxxtango 8 жыл бұрын
+Breja ToneWorks Usually, polarized capacitors would be used in DC applications while non-polarized in AC applications.There are advantages and disadvantages for both, like polarized capacitors have a higher leakage current and act as a short-circuit when connected the wrong way. Also have a lower frequency response, but they are smaller than non-polarized capacitors of the same capacitance. An old trick used in budget cross-overs is connecting 2 polarized capacitors back to back (- to - or + to +)
@nylesreynolds6035
@nylesreynolds6035 8 жыл бұрын
Finished this the other night. Worked perfectly. Sounds amazing
@jonnyt8183
@jonnyt8183 5 жыл бұрын
The outer or foil layer of the capacitor is negative and should be connected towards ground. Doesn’t always make a big difference but it is a difference and sometimes it is really noticeable.
@pavlepaja7642
@pavlepaja7642 Жыл бұрын
Can i series/parallel/coil split with 2 push pull and 3 way switch ?
@kevinsantiago9898
@kevinsantiago9898 10 жыл бұрын
Hi there !! you have a good day. I have a question I have a guitar but my Esp Ltd dimarzio humbucker and I are interested in that connexion in my guitar I could instead of having the coil split on volume and tone potentiometers since I have 2 ... could use 4 dpdt switch to make sound changes on the guitar. Thanks sorry for my English translation is in Spanish only speak nice day :)
@Pedalheadshow
@Pedalheadshow 7 ай бұрын
For anyone who’s really following his instructions word by word. In the end when he’s discussing where the wires from the pickups have to go. He mixed up his instructions for the neck wiring. While showing the bridge wiring diagram, and then he mixed up the instructions for the bridge pickups while showing us the neck pickup diagram. Otherwise the video is 100% correct and his instructions are correct. Just really really confusing when you’re trying to figure out why what he’s talking about doesn’t match up with the diagram on the video. Really confusing especially when you’re up at 5 am. Just wanted to through that out there.
@Axer01250
@Axer01250 3 жыл бұрын
A500k audio taper push/pulls for all? B500k linear taper? Or combination? Any opinions?
@poorjudjement
@poorjudjement 8 жыл бұрын
Very Cool! You guys have the best DIY vids! I am considering this for a LP 12 string build, but using push push pots and adding a mini humbucker in the center, and would want in phase out of phase, bridge, neck, center....neck, center....bridge, center....and center/mini only options. Is this doable minus adding another switch or pot? TY
@BrejaToneWorks
@BrejaToneWorks 8 жыл бұрын
+Something from NoThing email me directly at BrejaToneWorks@gmail.com
@indie209
@indie209 4 жыл бұрын
Is it normal that the bridge volume doesn't work when in "series" mode?
@juyanine
@juyanine 5 жыл бұрын
I installed some Donlis alnico 2 with this wiring and it worked amazingly. It was a lot of work though. Here is a post with the wiring info: www.mylespaul.com/threads/jimmy-page-like-wiring-a-tribute-plus-blow-by-blow-wiring-demo-with-photos.265231/
@thientran9990
@thientran9990 5 жыл бұрын
Where is the location of the ground wire to the "Bridge Ground" to prevent the ground loop?
@hipher
@hipher 4 жыл бұрын
I don't get it. According to the explaation in 11:32, with the 3-way switch in the Neck, and the neck volume pulled, I should get only 1 coil of the neck PUP. For that to happen, the black and green wires should be both grounded. There is none of the terminals in the Neck Vol switch going to ground. Either I'm bling after one hour drawing the electrical shcematics or the wiring diagram is messed up.
@ProBird79
@ProBird79 8 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial! Thank you!! Would you recommend adding treble bleeds to these as well? If so would they still go from the L1 to L2 positions? Where is your modern Jimmy Page wiring video, I can't find it. I'll be taking on this project within the next few weeks.
@BrejaToneWorks
@BrejaToneWorks 8 жыл бұрын
+ProBird79 Depends on your pickups but they're not the worst thing to add. Especially in this case as trying to add them AFTER all of this other wiring is done is going to be a challenge. What you could do is extend the leads on the treble bleeds so that if you don't like them (or wish to change to a different type), you can do it easier - and yes, they'd go on the same L1/L2 lugs. I don't have a modern version of this scheme.
@ProBird79
@ProBird79 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reply Breja. I've read that the 50's wiring doesn't need a treble bleed due to how the circuitry is wired, and it's only necessary for the modern wiring? In the video you mention you have a modern version so I assume you are talking about how the capacitors are wired differently (9:28). Again, GREAT tutorial!!
@BrejaToneWorks
@BrejaToneWorks 8 жыл бұрын
+ProBird79 Personal preference but Yes, in a normal situation you don't need the treble bleed with the vintage wiring.
@colonelsheppard79
@colonelsheppard79 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, did you install audio or linear taper pots on yours?
@cjoddbody
@cjoddbody 10 жыл бұрын
Don, is there anyway I can get a copy of your schematics for this mod? Quite a task! Thanks for all the great information! I've been looking for this for quite some time.
@BrejaToneWorks
@BrejaToneWorks 10 жыл бұрын
Email me directly at: brejatoneworks@gmail.com and I can get you a copy.
@cjoddbody
@cjoddbody 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks Don, just did! Greatly appreciated!
@MarcosJ-mq4lk
@MarcosJ-mq4lk 10 жыл бұрын
Breja ToneWorks Breja HI Is there any chance you could take a look on axetec.co.uk and in their wiring set section you'll see jimmypage wiring... I've followed it coming up 3 times now and it's faulty all over the place... If you look ,is there anything that seems amiss to you? many thanks incase you do...if you don't (why i outta!"")
@BrejaToneWorks
@BrejaToneWorks 10 жыл бұрын
CodedToast Mark R Nothing stands out to me. When you say it's 'faulty' - what do you mean? I know there are a couple of variations for this wiring scheme available. The one I use is the one that sounds the best to my ears. I know I sent you a copy of this scheme here - you didn't want to use it? :(
@MarcosJ-mq4lk
@MarcosJ-mq4lk 10 жыл бұрын
Breja ToneWorks i havent received anything???
@charlieortiz9595
@charlieortiz9595 10 жыл бұрын
I was just wondering..why is it that the way you do it is completely different than the diagram they have on seymour duncans website. Will either way work?
@BrejaToneWorks
@BrejaToneWorks 10 жыл бұрын
I'd have to reverse engineer SD's scheme to figure out the difference. There are a couple of different ways I've seen that this wiring can be accomplished. Mine is modeled after the Jonesy scheme which I believe is the most popular. As far as I know, they all will accomplish the same thing.
@earthstick
@earthstick 3 жыл бұрын
This is the way I wanted to wire my guitar, but with only 2 pots, I can't do it. The phase swap is easy, but for the series/parallel, I think I am limited to series/parallel between the two pickups or series/parallel within one of them. Is there much difference between sounds if the two pickups are joined in series rather than parallel?
@JohnShalamskas
@JohnShalamskas Жыл бұрын
Series connected coils sound much like humbuckers, while parallel connected coils sound more like a single-coil.
@linksfiery22
@linksfiery22 3 жыл бұрын
Holy balls I just did this entire wiring with the dimarzio color code ; ( GG. send condolensces.
@robotsongs
@robotsongs 4 жыл бұрын
Can someone please help?: If I'm trying to install a coil-cut resistor (a la PRS) to the neck pickup, where would it go? He's got it so that red and white are going to different switches, and it can't tell how the finish wires are being grounded. I was going to install a resistor between L3 and A2 on Bridge Volume, but can't figure out the Neck cut circuit. Thanks!
@shawnthompson48
@shawnthompson48 7 жыл бұрын
How do you do this with a Bare Knuckles Black Dog Pick Up? Bare Knuckles says on their website that it goes: Black: Start of Screw coil White: End of Screw coil Red: Start of Slug coil Green: End of Slug coil 920D Says Neck pickup is North Screw South Slug Bridge Pickup is North Slug South Screw
@covingtonjoe
@covingtonjoe 8 жыл бұрын
i have a epi 1275 i would like to do this to. i have the diagram for this guitar for the basic set up. but when i try to add them together and do it i just get a mess. i woul dliek to do this think you can make it easer for me?
@BrejaToneWorks
@BrejaToneWorks 8 жыл бұрын
+joe burg I see what you're doing - you're just rubbing it in that you have a dbl-neck and I don't. :) Ok - I'm not 100% sure, but I believe on the 1275, the controls are Vol/Tone for one neck and Vol/Tone for the other neck (At least on Gibsons). To do this mod on this type of guitar, the DPDT switch has to come first instead of last as it most likely is now in your guitar. You'll need to complete redo all the wiring in the guitar and make the neck selector switch the first switch in the circuit.
@Cre8tvMG
@Cre8tvMG 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know why anyone would wire a guitar any other way. It’s like buying four more guitars!
@craigssellingmine
@craigssellingmine 5 жыл бұрын
what size capacitors are used? Are oil capacitors the best?
@aspguitars10
@aspguitars10 Жыл бұрын
Will this work with Push Push Pots?
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